Got windows all installed, everything seems to be running as it should. Any specific programs I should be looking to download?
Well, usually it's just a matter of making sure bios and drivers and stuff is up to date. W10 takes care of most of the stuff by itself, and the latest Motherboard bios is usually a good practice for compatibility, but if everything is running right, it's likely you won't experience any issues. A 550 board is likely to have it covered when it comes to m.2/pcie compatibility. I have an older Ryzen board and at some point I needed a bios update for some Destiny 2 issues. That was a bit weird and a pretty edge case.
Beyond that, a lot of people find it good practice to do some memory/gpu tests for stability, but in my experience, faulty ram shows itself almost immediately and there is no better way to "test" a computer than just using it.
Programs and such would fall within your specific use case. I'm sure the lads know of good stuff if you have any particular needs, be it work or leisure.
By Elliott Go To PostGot windows all installed, everything seems to be running as it should. Any specific programs I should be looking to download?
- AMD Chipset drivers for X570: https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am4/x570
- Intel Drivers (storage, wi-fi, ethernet, bluetooth, etc.): https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/intel-driver-support-assistant.html
- Intel SSD Toolbox (if you have an Intel SSD): https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/29609/Intel-Solid-State-Drive-Toolbox?product=80096
- GeForce Experience (will keep Nvidia GPU drivers up-to-date and also optimize graphics settings for most games): https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/geforce-experience/
e: if you are having trouble finding your motherboard's latest bios to download, post the model name & number and we can help look it up for you
Oh yeah, msi afterburner is a good one, especially the utility it has to automatically set some custom voltage/frequency curves based on what your exact card can handle. A free and safe overclock, basically.
one of my monitors died so I ordered a cheap 4k panel, only £216 which seemed sensational... although it's probably that cheap for good reason. not sure if I'll regret this but got too many other expenses right now to get something nice smh
how is DPI scaling in Windows these days? what settings do the 4k lads use?
how is DPI scaling in Windows these days? what settings do the 4k lads use?
Is f.lux still that much better than windows night light?
I use 125% DPI scaling on a 27". Not really for any particular reason, but because I don't want to lose my sight in my 30s. When I was in my 20s small text didn't bother me, but one time after a long work day my eyes took a good minute to re-focus after I stepped away from the PC and that was scary enough to just say fuck it and start Ctrl +ing and F9ing every site with text and turning on night mode wherever I could.
I use 125% DPI scaling on a 27". Not really for any particular reason, but because I don't want to lose my sight in my 30s. When I was in my 20s small text didn't bother me, but one time after a long work day my eyes took a good minute to re-focus after I stepped away from the PC and that was scary enough to just say fuck it and start Ctrl +ing and F9ing every site with text and turning on night mode wherever I could.
By rerixo Go To Postone of my monitors died so I ordered a cheap 4k panel, only £216 which seemed sensational… although it's probably that cheap for good reason. not sure if I'll regret this but got too many other expenses right now to get something nice smh
how is DPI scaling in Windows these days? what settings do the 4k lads use?
125% here
By rerixo Go To Postone of my monitors died so I ordered a cheap 4k panel, only £216 which seemed sensational… although it's probably that cheap for good reason. not sure if I'll regret this but got too many other expenses right now to get something nice smh100%, but I’ll ctrl + most websites for ease of reading.
how is DPI scaling in Windows these days? what settings do the 4k lads use?
By inky Go To PostIs f.lux still that much better than windows night light?I use 150% on a 27" 1440p because it doesn't require me to strain my eyes any to read.
I use 125% DPI scaling on a 27". Not really for any particular reason, but because I don't want to lose my sight in my 30s. When I was in my 20s small text didn't bother me, but one time after a long work day my eyes took a good minute to re-focus after I stepped away from the PC and that was scary enough to just say fuck it and start Ctrl +ing and F9ing every site with text and turning on night mode wherever I could.
Oh, Elliott, you may need to also download some audio drivers. If so, let me know what audio device you have (or, again, what your motherboard model is) and I can link you to where you can get them.
By Elliott Go To PostMotherboard is an Aorus x570 Ultra.Cool.
BIOS (get the latest one): https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-ULTRA-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios
Audio Drivers (get the latest one): https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-ULTRA-rev-10/support#support-dl-driver-audio
I tried looking for Realtek drivers on an official site elsewhere, but it appears Realtek only makes the drivers for their networking stuff easily available.
By HonestVapes Go To PostFeels bad being in the 100%Gang alone.i'm here too. old people can't relate.
By Laboured Go To PostIdk how you see shit :lolI'm blessed in that regard. Don't even get motion sickness in VR.
Congrats on having superior eyes.
By HonestVapes Go To PostFeels bad being in the 100%Gang alone.Nah I'm on 100% too
By HonestVapes Go To PostFeels bad being in the 100%Gang alone.
I'm 100% too.
I have perfect 20/20 so far, but been around enough people losing their sight that I find it really scary.
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@Elliott m8, if you are overclocking your GPU with MSI Afterburner, here's the tutorial on how to do it with basically just a few clicks.
https://www.msi.com/blog/get-a-free-performance-boost-with-afterburner-oc-scanner
It's an easy and completely safe way of getting a free performance boost. The only thing it doesn't do is automatically adjust the memory clock, but that is very simple to do as well. If you ever feel like doing it, we can walk you through that. (just in case you've never done it or are interested in it, if not then disregard).
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@Elliott m8, if you are overclocking your GPU with MSI Afterburner, here's the tutorial on how to do it with basically just a few clicks.
https://www.msi.com/blog/get-a-free-performance-boost-with-afterburner-oc-scanner
It's an easy and completely safe way of getting a free performance boost. The only thing it doesn't do is automatically adjust the memory clock, but that is very simple to do as well. If you ever feel like doing it, we can walk you through that. (just in case you've never done it or are interested in it, if not then disregard).
By HonestVapes Go To PostFrosted tubing sure does look nice.That looks phenomenal. I'm surprised it's not a widespread thing yet.
By Zabojnik Go To PostThat looks phenomenal. I'm surprised it's not a widespread thing yet.
One thing I've noticed lately after looking up parts is that the Chinese companies are really on the ball with their water cooling gear. Barrow, Bykski and to a lesser extent "Ice Man Cooler" have some really nice looking blocks and reservoirs, and some pretty inventive ideas. Like putting an OLED screen on the side of a radiator to display the water temp, or putting an infinity mirror in the CPU block (like the NZXT Kraken AIOs).
We have the 2TB version of that Rocket Q in some of the PCs at work. They were $200 each back in November and I gotta say, they are pretty good for our use case.
Of course being QLC I think a lot of people didn't give it too much of a look. There were not any reviews out at the time (it was brand new), and TLC variants (nvme and non-nvme) were almost as cheap. But after the covid crisis, I think large storage QLC drives are gonna be the big thing for 2021. Once they can be had at a much cheaper price point, of course.
Of course being QLC I think a lot of people didn't give it too much of a look. There were not any reviews out at the time (it was brand new), and TLC variants (nvme and non-nvme) were almost as cheap. But after the covid crisis, I think large storage QLC drives are gonna be the big thing for 2021. Once they can be had at a much cheaper price point, of course.
Definitely going for that Lian Li Q37 now. Just put the order in for the radiators for it. Going with Corsair for the XR7 and XR5 240mm. 54mm and 30mm thick respectively. Just need to settle on a pump and res for it.
I've been thinking of cutting into the case and mounting one of those flat EK D5 reservoirs flush to the case with the pump hanging out the back in the rear compartment (out of sight). By eying it, it should just fit but I may need to allow some space for cable routing as I think it'll overlap the cut outs for those.
I'm leaving SFF, fams. Embrace me.
I've been thinking of cutting into the case and mounting one of those flat EK D5 reservoirs flush to the case with the pump hanging out the back in the rear compartment (out of sight). By eying it, it should just fit but I may need to allow some space for cable routing as I think it'll overlap the cut outs for those.
I'm leaving SFF, fams. Embrace me.
By rerixo Go To Postone of my monitors died so I ordered a cheap 4k panel, only £216 which seemed sensational… although it's probably that cheap for good reason. not sure if I'll regret this but got too many other expenses right now to get something nice smhWhat?!! Post that link boi!
how is DPI scaling in Windows these days? what settings do the 4k lads use?
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set to arrive later today. i just want anything with pixels at this point, going back to single monitor life is hard
I will probably just wait for Ryzen 4000 before upgrading since it is taking so long for the case I want to come out, anyway. That is still supposed to hit late this year, right?
By Kibner Go To PostI will probably just wait for Ryzen 4000 before upgrading since it is taking so long for the case I want to come out, anyway. That is still supposed to hit late this year, right?
Rumors are it got pushed to 2021 to let the 3000 series breath a bit longer, but the source is a bit flaky, so who knows:
https://www.techspot.com/news/85647-ryzen-4000-desktop-cpus-not-arriving-until-2021.html
The report comes from DigiTimes, which has a real hit-and-miss record with these sort of rumors, so take it all with a heavy dose of salt. The article has been translated by leaker RetiredEngineer.
The alleged main reason why AMD is holding back the Ryzen 4000 CPUs is simply because the Ryzen 3000 series continues to sell in droves—they're being bundled with Horizon Zero Dawn in the UK. The chips take up four of the top six places on Amazon’s best-selling CPU chart, including the Ryzen 7 3700X at number one, and continue to rival Intel’s latest 10th-gen Comet Lake processors, which are built on the 14nm process.
By Smokey Go To PostRumors are it got pushed to 2021 to let the 3000 series breath a bit longer.Welp. Guess I will be sitting on this 2700x for a while longer, then.
https://www.techspot.com/news/85647-ryzen-4000-desktop-cpus-not-arriving-until-2021.html
Bruhhhhh the state of motherboards and PSU's fam. I just need a Mobo and a PSU now. The rest of my parts are just sitting there, calling me. 😭
Giving myself a little more leeway with the mobo. At this point, I might cop the first one I see (up to $300).
Giving myself a little more leeway with the mobo. At this point, I might cop the first one I see (up to $300).
By inky Go To PostI have perfect 20/20 so far, but been around enough people losing their sight that I find it really scary.Used the OC scanner yesterday, thanks for the tip. The memory I'm using is 3600hz, would it be worth it to boost?
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@Elliott m8, if you are overclocking your GPU with MSI Afterburner, here's the tutorial on how to do it with basically just a few clicks.
https://www.msi.com/blog/get-a-free-performance-boost-with-afterburner-oc-scanner
It's an easy and completely safe way of getting a free performance boost. The only thing it doesn't do is automatically adjust the memory clock, but that is very simple to do as well. If you ever feel like doing it, we can walk you through that. (just in case you've never done it or are interested in it, if not then disregard).
By Elliott Go To PostUsed the OC scanner yesterday, thanks for the tip. The memory I'm using is 3600hz, would it be worth it to boost?If you are talking about the GPU memory clock, then, no, not really. Modern Nvidia GPUs don't see much benefit from memory clock boosts.
However, if you are talking about your CPU, then possibly. Ryzen, in general, works kinda weirdly but Ryzen 3000 series benefits with memory speed up to 3733 before weird stuff complicates matters.
First, you need to check what speed your memory is. The easiest way to do that without downloading or installing anything is to press CTRL+SHIFT+ESC to bring up the Windows Task Manager. You may need to click the "more details" button at the bottom.
Next, click the "Performance" tab and then the "Memory" area in the left column. There is a field that should now appear in the right column called "Speed". That should tell you what speed your system memory is currently running at.
I haven't overclocked my memory on my new motherboard, yet, so it reads as 2133 MHz. If your memory is reporting 3600 MHz on this screen, then I would leave well enough alone. If it does not, you can try enabling the XMP profile in your BIOS, though it may go by a different name. You will also need to run memory tests overnight to make sure it is stable. Let us know if you need to do this.
If you want to really tighten up your memory speed and timings, I can also help with that, but be aware it is something that will take several hours over the course of 1-2 weeks to get dialed in safely and reliably and is not simple while also being very tedious.
Yeah, I actually meant your GPU's Memory Clock, which is simple enough to do, but the OC Scan doesn't do it.
RAM OC is a bit more involved, like Kibner explained above much more comprehensively than I could.
RAM OC is a bit more involved, like Kibner explained above much more comprehensively than I could.
It's very easy. With your current OC applied after you ran the OC Scan (good practice to save it to one of the profile slots 1-5), you move the Memory Clock dial to something, say +400. Then you hit the OC Scan button again, but only run the "Test" option (you already did the scan so no point doing that again).
If the test completes again successfully and it shows you confidence level of 90%, you can increase it in +50 increments, then test again until becomes unstable or the computer reboots automatically (it's nothing to worry about, it just does it to avoid damage to itself). You know it's unstable if the confidence level in the test drops too much, you see some artifacts or a crash).
If it's unstable at +400, or whatever your starting point was, you can dial it down instead, again in -50 steps.
That's it. Then you save a profile at the highest point it was stable and that's basically your full OC. It varies from card to card, some can do +300, others reach ~+1000.
If the test completes again successfully and it shows you confidence level of 90%, you can increase it in +50 increments, then test again until becomes unstable or the computer reboots automatically (it's nothing to worry about, it just does it to avoid damage to itself). You know it's unstable if the confidence level in the test drops too much, you see some artifacts or a crash).
If it's unstable at +400, or whatever your starting point was, you can dial it down instead, again in -50 steps.
That's it. Then you save a profile at the highest point it was stable and that's basically your full OC. It varies from card to card, some can do +300, others reach ~+1000.
Good deal! I'll try to summarize what you are missing out on by not manually overclocking your ram.
1) save your current bios settings to a profile and/or write them all down so that you have safe defaults to revert back to
2) get a memory testing software
- I am currently about to try memtest86 on a bootable usb so that if there is an error, I don't have to risk that my drive may have gotten corrupted by unstable memory. I normally use Karhu's memtest when booted in Windows to check integrity/stability.
3) download DRAM Calculator for Ryzen
4) run the Calculator and put in the appropriate values for your system and have it calculate the settings you need for the memory speed you want to try for. print screenshot to some online storage or somewhere else where you can view while your system is booted into bios
5) reboot into bios and apply the settings from Step 4.
6) save and reboot into whatever you need to stress test the memory (bootable USB or Windows, typically)
7) run the stress test overnight (minimum 6 hours)
8) if there are any errors, even a single one, load your original bios from Step 1), reboot into Windows, repeat steps 4-8 with less aggressive (i.e. slower) timings/speeds
9) there were no errors in the overnight stress test so you found something stable. congrats! now save this to a new profile in your bios. this profile will be specifically for overclocking so that you have a non-oc and an oc one for maximum safety
10) repeat steps 4-9 until you have your memory speed and timings as aggressive/fast as they can go
As you can see, this can take a couple weeks since you can only really run one or two stress tests a day. It's not exactly rocket science, but it is tedious and slow.
Also, there are several possible points of failure for step 6 and, if they happen, you will just have to revert back to the safe defaults and try for less aggressive timings again.
1) save your current bios settings to a profile and/or write them all down so that you have safe defaults to revert back to
2) get a memory testing software
- I am currently about to try memtest86 on a bootable usb so that if there is an error, I don't have to risk that my drive may have gotten corrupted by unstable memory. I normally use Karhu's memtest when booted in Windows to check integrity/stability.
3) download DRAM Calculator for Ryzen
4) run the Calculator and put in the appropriate values for your system and have it calculate the settings you need for the memory speed you want to try for. print screenshot to some online storage or somewhere else where you can view while your system is booted into bios
5) reboot into bios and apply the settings from Step 4.
6) save and reboot into whatever you need to stress test the memory (bootable USB or Windows, typically)
7) run the stress test overnight (minimum 6 hours)
8) if there are any errors, even a single one, load your original bios from Step 1), reboot into Windows, repeat steps 4-8 with less aggressive (i.e. slower) timings/speeds
9) there were no errors in the overnight stress test so you found something stable. congrats! now save this to a new profile in your bios. this profile will be specifically for overclocking so that you have a non-oc and an oc one for maximum safety
10) repeat steps 4-9 until you have your memory speed and timings as aggressive/fast as they can go
As you can see, this can take a couple weeks since you can only really run one or two stress tests a day. It's not exactly rocket science, but it is tedious and slow.
Also, there are several possible points of failure for step 6 and, if they happen, you will just have to revert back to the safe defaults and try for less aggressive timings again.