By The Frankman Go To PostSo GTX 11 cards leaked?1180 bday gift to myself
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-11-series-gtx-1180-gtx-1170-gtx-1160-release-date-leak/
By Smokey Go To PostRead the thread smhLike anyone in here is going to listen to a console pleb about Master Race™ talk.
By NinjaFridge Go To PostLike anyone in here is going to listen to a console pleb about Master Race™ talk.
Respek your PC elders
IM INTRIGUED
I keep posting about it but it's only because I'm really happy. Vermintide 2 loads so stupidly quick now.
It's not actually mine, lollerz. Just baiting.
Truth be told, I would love to put together something similar one day, if on a much smaller full nerd scale. HOTAS (or maybe two sticks), one MFD, maybe pedals, one 21:9 monitor. Hard to justify spending that sort of money when there are just a handful of games in which I would use it. SC is years away from deserving such a setup and the military flight sim market is basically non-existent these days. I've been meaning to get back to DCS, but ehhh, it's still the same old DCS. It just doesn't seem worth it, even with VR support. Sad!
Truth be told, I would love to put together something similar one day, if on a much smaller full nerd scale. HOTAS (or maybe two sticks), one MFD, maybe pedals, one 21:9 monitor. Hard to justify spending that sort of money when there are just a handful of games in which I would use it. SC is years away from deserving such a setup and the military flight sim market is basically non-existent these days. I've been meaning to get back to DCS, but ehhh, it's still the same old DCS. It just doesn't seem worth it, even with VR support. Sad!
Friends, I need help. I want to get a heatsink for my Ryzen 2 CPU, but it has been 10+ years since I last bought one. I will also need to pick up a fan for it and would like recommendations (though I think most of them are going to be Noctua?).
I mainly want silence without the danger of an AIO or similar failing. So, it should probably be a large heatsink that can attach a large, quiet running fan or two (do I need two? is that a thing I need/want?).
Also, I only have two spots left for fans to plug into my motherboard: one for CPU fan and one for PUMP fan. Can I plug a normal fan into the PUMP fan slot?
I am using the Silverstone FT02 case that has three 180 mm fans on the bottom and a single 120 mm fan above where the CPU sits, so space and general airflow isn't a problem. I mainly want to remove the whining of the stock Ryzen fan.
(not my pic, but this is what the case internals looks like; notice that fan that sits directly above the CPU)
e: also, a recommendation on some good thermal paste as my tube of Arctic Silver from a decade ago probably isn't good anymore
I mainly want silence without the danger of an AIO or similar failing. So, it should probably be a large heatsink that can attach a large, quiet running fan or two (do I need two? is that a thing I need/want?).
Also, I only have two spots left for fans to plug into my motherboard: one for CPU fan and one for PUMP fan. Can I plug a normal fan into the PUMP fan slot?
I am using the Silverstone FT02 case that has three 180 mm fans on the bottom and a single 120 mm fan above where the CPU sits, so space and general airflow isn't a problem. I mainly want to remove the whining of the stock Ryzen fan.
(not my pic, but this is what the case internals looks like; notice that fan that sits directly above the CPU)
e: also, a recommendation on some good thermal paste as my tube of Arctic Silver from a decade ago probably isn't good anymore
For thermal paste i seen something called grizzly as really good, but also expensive.
As far as non AIO cooling in 2018, I'll let one of the others chime in on that.
As far as non AIO cooling in 2018, I'll let one of the others chime in on that.
@Kibner, for the performance, silence, and above all else the absolute best and easiest mounting solution, you want a Noctua NH-D15. Providing your case can accommodate a tall cooler like it.
https://noctua.at/en/products/cpu-cooler-retail/nh-d15-se-am4/specification
Failing the height requirement, the shorter NH-D9L with dual redux fans was beautifully quiet and I miss using it dearly. The NH-U9S is also under 130mm tall and performs better than it.
There’s other contenders out there that are as good and even better than the D15 now, however the mounting system they use is just not upto par and I really rate ease of installation highly when it comes to CPU coolers.
Edit: Btw, the Noctua coolers do come with some pretty high quality thermal paste.
https://noctua.at/en/products/cpu-cooler-retail/nh-d15-se-am4/specification
Failing the height requirement, the shorter NH-D9L with dual redux fans was beautifully quiet and I miss using it dearly. The NH-U9S is also under 130mm tall and performs better than it.
There’s other contenders out there that are as good and even better than the D15 now, however the mounting system they use is just not upto par and I really rate ease of installation highly when it comes to CPU coolers.
Edit: Btw, the Noctua coolers do come with some pretty high quality thermal paste.
Thanks for the recommendation!
I'm playing around with that calculator some more and I think one of the reasons I was failing was because I was using the values the RAM sticks had on themselves, which was intended for Intel systems. The calculator has another option where I can use some more generic values that are tuned for AMD systems.
I am now running 3200 MHz with 14/14/14/14/28/50 timings pretty stable now. Will need to see if I can get up to the 3600 MHz settings after I let the RAM test run a little longer.
I'm playing around with that calculator some more and I think one of the reasons I was failing was because I was using the values the RAM sticks had on themselves, which was intended for Intel systems. The calculator has another option where I can use some more generic values that are tuned for AMD systems.
I am now running 3200 MHz with 14/14/14/14/28/50 timings pretty stable now. Will need to see if I can get up to the 3600 MHz settings after I let the RAM test run a little longer.
By Kibner Go To PostThanks for the recommendation!That's tight af for 3200mhz.
I'm playing around with that calculator some more and I think one of the reasons I was failing was because I was using the values the RAM sticks had on themselves, which was intended for Intel systems. The calculator has another option where I can use some more generic values that are tuned for AMD systems.
I am now running 3200 MHz with 14/14/14/14/28/50 timings pretty stable now. Will need to see if I can get up to the 3600 MHz settings after I let the RAM test run a little longer.
You could try aiming for 3466mhz with tight timings next. Could be more beneficial that running 3600mhz with looser timings.
I'm sure I've seen another video somewhere comparing the two directly, but can't for the life of me remember the channel.
Kibner, I was watching this video
Towards the end he talks about Optane and how it works. How are you using it in your system?
Towards the end he talks about Optane and how it works. How are you using it in your system?
By Smokey Go To PostKibner, I was watching this videoI am using it as the fast tier in my tiered storage solution. Enmotus' FuzeDrive is the software I am using to setup that tiered storage.
Towards the end he talks about Optane and how it works. How are you using it in your system?
Basically, everything is first written to my slow tier (a mechanical hdd). As files/sectors/whatever are read from my slow tier, they are moved into my fast tier (the 905p Optane). The software uses some type of machine learning or something to figure out over time what files I use most often and keeps them in the fast tier of storage.
I didn't know FuzeDrive was tiered storage system. I thought it was just using flash as a MRU/FRU cache. Does it actually expand your storage when you add the SSD?
By diehard Go To PostI didn't know FuzeDrive was tiered storage system. I thought it was just using flash as a MRU/FRU cache. Does it actually expand your storage when you add the SSD?Yup.
It only works with two drives, though. It is easy enough to swap out the fast storage device (I had to do it earlier when moving from my SATA ssd to my Optane), but I'm not sure how/if you can swap out the slow storage device.
Disk 0 is my mechanical hdd.
Disk 1 is my SATA ssd that I really just need to remove from my system.
Disk 2 is the Optane drive.
Disk 3 is the merged drive the Enmotus software creates. I need to extend the volume because the software didn't add it back after I switched physical drives for the fast storage tier.
Also, I'm pretty happy with the built-in, automatic overclocking on stock cooling for the Ryzen 2700x. I've had this memtest running for a half hour and it maxes out the CPU usage (see screenshot in previous post). Running all eight cores at 3.91-3.94 GHz (from a base of 3.70 GHz) while staying under 70 C. When I've been using it for tasks that aren't synthetic stress tests, I notice it getting up to 4.1 and sometimes 4.2 GHz.
e: speaking of stress test, I had to loosen my timings a bit and my RAM is now running at 3200 MHz with 14/14/14/14/36/50 timings, but, hey! eight full passes with no errors and counting!
e: speaking of stress test, I had to loosen my timings a bit and my RAM is now running at 3200 MHz with 14/14/14/14/36/50 timings, but, hey! eight full passes with no errors and counting!
By diehard Go To Postwhy is your ram maxed out lolrunning a stress test for my ram :v
I've asked about buying a PC previously in this thread and got a decent answer, but i need to ask again as the budget for the build has changed. I would appreciate any build recommendations regarding RAM, Processor, GPU, Power supply etc. Current budget is £1000 with a monitor, keyboard and mouse if possible.
I would be extremely appreciated and would stop typing incredible every other post.
I would be extremely appreciated and would stop typing incredible every other post.
By Facism Go To PostI've asked about buying a PC previously in this thread and got a decent answer, but i need to ask again as the budget for the build has changed. I would appreciate any build recommendations regarding RAM, Processor, GPU, Power supply etc. Current budget is £1000 with a monitor, keyboard and mouse if possible.Gotchu fam. Monitor size/refresh rate?
I would be extremely appreciated and would stop typing incredible every other post.
By HottestVapes Go To PostGotchu fam. Monitor size/refresh rate?
minimum 22 inches, 60hz would be fine. Also will take prebuilt or separate components.
By Kibner Go To PostAlso, do you already have a Windows license?
Yes.
Didnt include M&KB, but there’s enough spare change to get a cheap Auckey mechanical board off amazon and a decent budget mouse.
Also potential to save money on certain things, like the case but it’s hard to say no to a case as nice as the meshify c.
PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/LZMsmq
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/LZMsmq/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (£160.00 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI - B360M PRO-VH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£62.98 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£134.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£76.97 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB JetStream Video Card (£239.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Mini Dark TG MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£67.98 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£47.99 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: LG - 25UM58-P 25.0" 2560x1080 60Hz Monitor (£149.98 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £940.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-24 22:01 BST+0100I’m
Also potential to save money on certain things, like the case but it’s hard to say no to a case as nice as the meshify c.
PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/LZMsmq
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/LZMsmq/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (£160.00 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI - B360M PRO-VH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£62.98 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£134.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£76.97 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB JetStream Video Card (£239.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Mini Dark TG MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£67.98 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£47.99 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: LG - 25UM58-P 25.0" 2560x1080 60Hz Monitor (£149.98 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £940.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-24 22:01 BST+0100I’m
Good stuff, possible Ryzen equivalent would be useful also. Is that an ultrawide monitor?
Is the PSU decent? no idea 450w was enough these days :p
Noticed the crucial mx500 is 26 raheems cheaper from amazon too. This is a good resource.
Is the PSU decent? no idea 450w was enough these days :p
Noticed the crucial mx500 is 26 raheems cheaper from amazon too. This is a good resource.
By Facism Go To PostGood stuff, possible Ryzen equivalent would be useful also. Is that an ultrawide monitor?
Is the PSU decent? no idea 450w was enough these days :p
Noticed the crucial mx500 is 26 raheems cheaper from amazon too. This is a good resource.
Aye it’s an ultrawide but 1080p. As for the PSU, I’ve used a CX550w and had no issues with it, it’s more than enough for a 8400/1060.
As for a Ryzen list, this a bit funky. I tried to optimise the most performance possible for the budget.
PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MVjTP3
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MVjTP3/by_merchant/
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£143.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AX370M-DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£52.49 @ Novatech)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£134.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£32.39 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GameRock Video Card (£342.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design - Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£32.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MWE Bronze 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£40.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Monitor: AOC - Q3279VWF 31.5" 2560x1440 75Hz Monitor (£188.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £969.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-24 22:22 BST+0100
So it’s a first gen 1600 and only 2400mhz RAM, but it’s also a 1070 GPU and a 1440p monitor. The bottleneck for games will rest solely on that GPU.
I cheaped out on the case, and the SSD which is unfortunate but again, a 1440p monitor/1070 GPU for under a grand. Sacrifices had to be made, fam.
What's the word on being somewhat future-proof for upgrading the GPU or CPU in the future in regards to the motherboards and PSU?
By Facism Go To PostWhat's the word on being somewhat future-proof for upgrading the GPU or CPU in the future in regards to the motherboards and PSU?"lol" @ current intel chipsets working for the next gen of cpu's
x470 should be good for the next 2-4 years of Ryzen, iirc
i don't see gpu's requiring more power than current ones so a psu that is good for today should be good for tomorrow. if you want one that will just last for forever (12 year warranty), you want the Seasonic 600 W Prime Titanium Fanless.
Vapes, why not a Ryzen 5 2600? It's about £15 more expensive than the 1600 @ Amazon?
Concerning the motherboard, would it not be wise to go for a x470 mobo instead? Do I lose much going with your suggestion over a typical 470?
You recommended microATX, will i come across heating/real estate issues? I've never had microATX but they always seemed like a ballache to mess about with.
Concerning the motherboard, would it not be wise to go for a x470 mobo instead? Do I lose much going with your suggestion over a typical 470?
You recommended microATX, will i come across heating/real estate issues? I've never had microATX but they always seemed like a ballache to mess about with.
By Facism Go To PostVapes, why not a Ryzen 5 2600? It's about £15 more expensive than the 1600 @ Amazon?microATX is a perfectly fine size, as long as you don't care about serious overclocking
Concerning the motherboard, would it not be wise to go for a x470 mobo instead? Do I lose much going with your suggestion over a typical 470?
You recommended microATX, will i come across heating/real estate issues? I've never had microATX but they always seemed like a ballache to mess about with.
By Facism Go To PostVapes, why not a Ryzen 5 2600? It's about £15 more expensive than the 1600 @ Amazon?
Concerning the motherboard, would it not be wise to go for a x470 mobo instead? Do I lose much going with your suggestion over a typical 470?
You recommended microATX, will i come across heating/real estate issues? I've never had microATX but they always seemed like a ballache to mess about with.
Only went with the 1600 over the 2600 to cram the better GPU and monitor into the budget. The 2600 is otherwise better in every way.
I wouldn’t bother with X470 unless you fancied going ballsdeep with a higher end board for £200, but if you fancy the 2600 instead then I’d go with a B450 board once they become available (very soon).
Otherwise, B350/X370 would be fine with a 2600 but as they may need a BIOS update to work together I didn’t bother to pair them for you in a price list.
I think the only thing you’d lose out on is StoreMI. The best of the new features that came with the 2000 series CPUs are on CPU itself and not the new chipset.
Store MI still works on 300 series AMD boards, but it comes free on 400 series. Also, Store MI is just a licensed version of that same FuzeDrive software I've been talking about. It is available on a variety of hardware platforms, but only on Windows 10, iirc.
@Facism
Might be worth waiting till Friday before buying parts as Overclockers.co.uk have a sale that day. Could be in for a decent little saving on DDR4/GPU. Last two kits of RAM I bought were off them and they were the cheapest around for it at the time
TIL.
Might be worth waiting till Friday before buying parts as Overclockers.co.uk have a sale that day. Could be in for a decent little saving on DDR4/GPU. Last two kits of RAM I bought were off them and they were the cheapest around for it at the time
By Kibner Go To PostStore MI still works on 300 series AMD boards, but it comes free on 400 series. Also, Store MI is just a licensed version of that same FuzeDrive software I've been talking about. It is available on a variety of hardware platforms, but only on Windows 10, iirc.
TIL.
By HottestVapes Go To PostRIP my Rival 310. Fucking bullshit rubber grip has started to come off the right side of it and the glue residue is seeping out the sides, covering my hand and also, kinda conveniently collecting all the dust off my mouse mat.RJN also really likes the new Rival 600.
27th till the Ultralight Phantom is in stock. Counting down the days here.
Uggh, still can't get a stable overclock at 3200. Going to lower it to the max supported speed of 2933 in the next few days and see how it goes.
E: that's the max speed that AMD supports on my chip, not the max speed my mobo or ram supports
E: that's the max speed that AMD supports on my chip, not the max speed my mobo or ram supports
I'll probably have a component list up later today so you guys can pick at it a little and see if some parts can be shuffled about.
Just realized that the Ryzen Dram Calculator comes with a graphic to help troubleshoot what to do when the memory is unstable. Trying that now.
E: it feels like the game to manually overclocking memory has changed a lot from ten years ago
E: it feels like the game to manually overclocking memory has changed a lot from ten years ago
Ran ramtest overnight and no errors after more than 10,000% coverage. According to the tool's FAQ, 6,400% coverage has a 99.41% error detection rate, so I should be good.
I'm done fucking with this shit. Just done. A couple screenshots of the settings I used, thanks to that Ryzen DRAM Calculator tool:
The only alternate settings I had to use were the ones in the 'CAD_BUS Block Ω'. I don't have the patience to try to get the 'fast' preset working and it has timings very close to the 'safe' preset I'm using, anyway (can post them for anyone curious).
I'm done fucking with this shit. Just done. A couple screenshots of the settings I used, thanks to that Ryzen DRAM Calculator tool:
The only alternate settings I had to use were the ones in the 'CAD_BUS Block Ω'. I don't have the patience to try to get the 'fast' preset working and it has timings very close to the 'safe' preset I'm using, anyway (can post them for anyone curious).
By Kibner Go To PostRan ramtest overnight and no errors after more than 10,000% coverage. According to the tool's FAQ, 6,400% coverage has a 99.41% error detection rate, so I should be good.
I'm done fucking with this shit. Just done. A couple screenshots of the settings I used, thanks to that Ryzen DRAM Calculator tool:
The only alternate settings I had to use were the ones in the 'CAD_BUS Block Ω'. I don't have the patience to try to get the 'fast' preset working and it has timings very close to the 'safe' preset I'm using, anyway (can post them for anyone curious).
2933mhz? I’d still say that’s good considering you’re running 4 sticks. Might have a play around with my B dies when I get home and see what I can get out of them.
@Facism
Overclockers currently have the following on sale
R5 2600 - £149.99 - R5 1600 - £139.99
Palit 1060 6Gb - £229.99 / Powercolour RX 580 8Gb - £248.99 / Inno3D 1070 -£329.99
They also have cheap, but not terrible cases in the clearance section. Nothing fancy, BitFenix/Cougar cases for £15-£20.
I’d drop links, but posting from my phone.
I’d really like it too, but from what I’ve read it has the same problem as my Rival 310. The rubber grips on the side peel off.
The Ultralight Phantom isn’t back in stock either. Looks like I’m going with the wireless G305
Overclockers currently have the following on sale
R5 2600 - £149.99 - R5 1600 - £139.99
Palit 1060 6Gb - £229.99 / Powercolour RX 580 8Gb - £248.99 / Inno3D 1070 -£329.99
They also have cheap, but not terrible cases in the clearance section. Nothing fancy, BitFenix/Cougar cases for £15-£20.
I’d drop links, but posting from my phone.
By DominicanPower Go To PostRJN also really likes the new Rival 600.
I’d really like it too, but from what I’ve read it has the same problem as my Rival 310. The rubber grips on the side peel off.
The Ultralight Phantom isn’t back in stock either. Looks like I’m going with the wireless G305
I think I need to look at my fan configuration. My office is quite hot and we are going through a heatwave but I can't even play demanding games on an unoverclocked 1080ti atm without it crashing.