I think with a purchase like you are talking about it will really come down to how the car makes you feel from behind the wheel. Both would be amazing (although in very different ways) so which one speaks to you more as a driver and an owner?
My advice is think about the purpose of the tool and buy accordingly. The NSX is criminally underrated and new. It should be quite reliable as well. A Superleggera is a future rolling museum piece so you should baby it and keep it bone stock IMO. So buy the NSX to drive the wheels off it or invest in the Lamborghini is how I see it.
NSX
Pros: speed, reliability, practicality, technology
Con: Looks, price tanked extremely from 200k to under 140k in a year, thats like McLaren bad. Sound.
Superleggera
Pros: looks, sounds, rawness and rareness. Depression bottomed out.
Con: slow, clunky gears, attention
I had a GT-R which is simmilar in term of practicality to the NSX. My concern is like the GT-R, it drove like a really fast Maxima. Still engaging but it's just fast.
I currently own a Gallardo with a crazy exhaust system so the the superleggera won't be much different. But each drive is a special occasion. Palms sweaty mom spagetti...
Pros: speed, reliability, practicality, technology
Con: Looks, price tanked extremely from 200k to under 140k in a year, thats like McLaren bad. Sound.
Superleggera
Pros: looks, sounds, rawness and rareness. Depression bottomed out.
Con: slow, clunky gears, attention
I had a GT-R which is simmilar in term of practicality to the NSX. My concern is like the GT-R, it drove like a really fast Maxima. Still engaging but it's just fast.
I currently own a Gallardo with a crazy exhaust system so the the superleggera won't be much different. But each drive is a special occasion. Palms sweaty mom spagetti...
By shinshoryuken Go To PostNSXYeah, you obviously should not get the NSX.
Pros: speed, reliability, practicality, technology
Con: Looks, price tanked extremely from 200k to under 140k in a year, thats like McLaren bad. Sound.
Superleggera
Pros: looks, sounds, rawness and rareness. Depression bottomed out.
Con: slow, clunky gears, attention
I had a GT-R which is simmilar in term of practicality to the NSX. My concern is like the GT-R, it drove like a really fast Maxima. Still engaging but it's just fast.
I currently own a Gallardo with a crazy exhaust system so the the superleggera won't be much different. But each drive is a special occasion. Palms sweaty mom spagetti…
If the Gallardo is your exact jam, then getting the best example of your favorite thing seems a no-brainer. And I still remember when you posted that vid of your Gallardo exhaust on GAF. I'm not kidding, that is the literal moment I realized how important the sound is for overall experience.
What's your daily?
I daily drive a Honda fit :)
Bay area traffic and crazy drivers I wouldn't want to daily drive anything else.
Bay area traffic and crazy drivers I wouldn't want to daily drive anything else.
By shinshoryuken Go To PostWell it's not just 6-cyl ..it has electric motors. Soo very smooth. Shift are smooth like butter.
School a pleb. Why do you only want to drive the NSX 1k to 2k miles a year? It's a Honda so it seems like the perfect car to put a good amount of miles on it and just have fun with it. Unless it's an insurance or resell value thing, no idea since those cars are out of my league.
By burgerdog Go To PostSchool a pleb. Why do you only want to drive the NSX 1k to 2k miles a year? It's a Honda so it seems like the perfect car to put a good amount of miles on it and just have fun with it. Unless it's an insurance or resell value thing, no idea since those cars are out of my league.
Well it won't be a daily driver. Using it mostly in the weekends. Here in the bay area, traffic is almost as worst as socal. But at least socal has way nicer backroads.
Some people here are just jerks. I saw first hand someone pushing a cart into someones car without batting an eye.
I also saw people sitting on other people's cars hood just to take a selfie.
Imma have to back the Lambo play here. I think despite all the performance of the NSX, you'll be pining for the V10 snarl every moment you're in it.
By Apollo Go To PostWhy drive in the bay?California 1
By Adam Go To Postshin is platinumslaent tier like Kidjr and mashout.
:x
PSY must avoid the thread.
By zfzmikey Go To PostWhenever I visit my father-in-law in Marin, that place seems like its filled with amazing roads.The drive north to Stinson beach is magical
The drive south through Big Sur is even moreso
Shin, definitely Superleggera. Coming from a modified Gallardo, the NSX sound will disappoint you greatly. NSX makes sense if you want to try something different for 3 months.
BTW, my doors temporarily open to the side again. ;)
Agreed on both counts.
Add Alpha's brother to the list by proxy.
BTW, my doors temporarily open to the side again. ;)
By reilo Go To PostThe drive north to Stinson beach is magical
The drive south through Big Sur is even moreso
Agreed on both counts.
By Adam Go To Postshin is platinumslaent tier like Kidjr and mashout.
:x
Add Alpha's brother to the list by proxy.
By zfzmikey Go To Posthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG65dju1ufA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86VcMJe68x4
Ok....that wasn't fair at all....
But the NSX did look nice in that angle....
Everyone should know what the exterior of an NSX or Gallrdo looks like.
Interior wise..Gallardo's is pretty ugly.. but add alcantara and carbon fiber everywhere...
https://www.supercars.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/2008_Lamborghini_GallardoSuperleggera4.jpg
NSXs interior ain't too shabby..so techie..
https://unmuffled.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/2017-acura-nsx-interior.jpg
Interior wise..Gallardo's is pretty ugly.. but add alcantara and carbon fiber everywhere...
https://www.supercars.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/2008_Lamborghini_GallardoSuperleggera4.jpg
NSXs interior ain't too shabby..so techie..
https://unmuffled.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/2017-acura-nsx-interior.jpg
By shinshoryuken Go To PostNSX
Pros: speed, reliability, practicality, technology
Con: Looks, price tanked extremely from 200k to under 140k in a year, thats like McLaren bad. Sound.
Superleggera
Pros: looks, sounds, rawness and rareness. Depression bottomed out.
Con: slow, clunky gears, attention
I had a GT-R which is simmilar in term of practicality to the NSX. My concern is like the GT-R, it drove like a really fast Maxima. Still engaging but it's just fast.
I currently own a Gallardo with a crazy exhaust system so the the superleggera won't be much different. But each drive is a special occasion. Palms sweaty mom spagetti…
So if you currently own a Gallardo, other than being a superleggera, is there any other main differences between the one you own and the one you want?
By nabe_shogun Go To PostSo if you currently own a Gallardo, other than being a superleggera, is there any other main differences between the one you own and the one you want?
Think about it as a "Type R" version of a Gallardo.
Lighter weight because of all the carbon fiber. A lil bit more HP. Overall it feels really raw.
It's almost like how the Ferrari 360 is different from a Challenger Stradale...
If there was a type R version of an NSX ...I would get it in a heartbeat.
+1 on the Lambo... pretty much like burgerdog.
The NSX seems to be the "daily driver" out of your choices whereas the Lambo is definitely in the weekend toy category.
Assuming I randomly come up with the money, I'd keep my GTI as my daily and get the Lambo. No chance in hell I'll pick up an NSX over it. But if I had to give up my GTI then I'd get the NSX instead. I hope this line of thinking from a plebian helps lol.
I talked to some detail guys in the area and they said Opticoat or something similar starts at $900. @___________@
I just don't really have the tools and knowledge to get it all done myself. I've got all the wash supplies and I think I know how to clay bar a car but proper paint correction is something I don't really know.
One of the guys I talked to quoted me a good price for an exterior detail though, will probably get it done next month and see if it's worth learning the entire process to DIY or his services for the future.
My GTI is black... so the only time its ever clean is the minute after I wash it. =(
It really doesn't bother me that much tbh, but it's been 6 weeks since my car has had a wash since it's been raining every week here so it's really really dirty. It doesn't help that its spring, so there's a layer of pollen on top of the dust, grime, and other crap on it.
The NSX seems to be the "daily driver" out of your choices whereas the Lambo is definitely in the weekend toy category.
Assuming I randomly come up with the money, I'd keep my GTI as my daily and get the Lambo. No chance in hell I'll pick up an NSX over it. But if I had to give up my GTI then I'd get the NSX instead. I hope this line of thinking from a plebian helps lol.
By zfzmikey Go To PostTHE SWIRLS. I'm not a perfectionist by any means, I *use* my cars. The back of my M5 has hair from two Border Collies shedding winter coats, dirt from their paws, and smears from my toddler. But a carwash is like putting your vehicle through soft sandpaper.
If you have the right stuff, it's really not hard to do yourself. As long as you keep a good polymer seal on, or look at getting a ceramic coating. Then the two bucket system is a piece of cake. Clay the troublesome areas if needed once a year, and renew that polyseal every 3 months. I can have both the Challenger and the M5 done within 30 minutes.
I've used Optiseal and Blackfire over the past two years, both work great. Dirt just falls off no problem, and far less sticks to it between washes. During winter, I just go through a touchless car wash or to one of the DIY places for maintenance washes. Allows you to get most of the crap off without ruining your paint.
I talked to some detail guys in the area and they said Opticoat or something similar starts at $900. @___________@
I just don't really have the tools and knowledge to get it all done myself. I've got all the wash supplies and I think I know how to clay bar a car but proper paint correction is something I don't really know.
One of the guys I talked to quoted me a good price for an exterior detail though, will probably get it done next month and see if it's worth learning the entire process to DIY or his services for the future.
By Kibner Go To PostI think that is mostly up to you and how often your car gets dirty enough to bother you. That time /money equation varies across people, too.
My GTI is black... so the only time its ever clean is the minute after I wash it. =(
It really doesn't bother me that much tbh, but it's been 6 weeks since my car has had a wash since it's been raining every week here so it's really really dirty. It doesn't help that its spring, so there's a layer of pollen on top of the dust, grime, and other crap on it.
I’d get the NSX over the Lambo anyday tbh. Not as raw as the Lambo but I’d be happier overall in the long run.
By shinshoryuken Go To PostNSX
Pros: speed, reliability, practicality, technology
Con: Looks, price tanked extremely from 200k to under 140k in a year, thats like McLaren bad. Sound.
The base price of the NSX is $146K invoice. $200K cars were purchased and optioned by dealers, not customers. NSX owners didn't want that kind of crap on their cars, which is why those cars sit and have like 30K in incentives to sell them. Also, a lot of these cars are still being marked up. The actual options list on the NSX is very little. It's just dealers ordered cars with all carbon errthang, including carbon ceramics. The all carbon (roof, interior, exterior, brakes) adds $50K for pointless bullshit. Otherwise, the car really only needs the upgraded tech pack for the better audio and parking sensors ($2800) and maybe a different choice of OEM wheels ($1500).
Those interested in the NSX (like me) should be walking into an Acura dealer and saying "I want a base car with an option or two. Find it. And I'll pay 148k for it."
If you're paying 170K+ for an NSX, that's McLaren 570S territory...and at that point you're stepping into a car that is considerably better than a Porsche 911 Turbo.
By AlphaSnacks Go To PostThe base price of the NSX is $146K invoice. $200K cars were purchased and optioned by dealers, not customers. NSX owners didn't want that kind of crap on their cars, which is why those cars sit and have like 30K in incentives to sell them. Also, a lot of these cars are still being marked up. The actual options list on the NSX is very little. It's just dealers ordered cars with all carbon errthang, including carbon ceramics. The all carbon (roof, interior, exterior, brakes) adds $50K for pointless bullshit. Otherwise, the car really only needs the upgraded tech pack for the better audio and parking sensors ($2800) and maybe a different choice of OEM wheels ($1500).
Those interested in the NSX (like me) should be walking into an Acura dealer and saying "I want a base car with an option or two. Find it. And I'll pay 148k for it."
If you're paying 170K+ for an NSX, that's McLaren 570S territory…and at that point you're stepping into a car that is considerably better than a Porsche 911 Turbo.
I've been seeing nicesly optioned slightly used one for around 150k or less. And theres plenty to choose from...
So...looks like you guys opinion is split...
The weird thing is if I get an NSX..it will have the same info-taiment system as my Honda Fit...
Also I think mashoutposse is right,. I'll probably get bored of it after 3 months...
By reilo Go To PostWhy another Lambo if you already have one? And why only the NSX as the alternative?
I will replace my current one.
I had 2 previous generation NSX, so the NSX brand is special to me.
Other option is just get an Civic Type R .....I had the integra type R so the type R brand is also special to me.
I originally wanted a white superleggera before I got my current lambo but I thought it was impossible to get, like I said only 8 exist...
Those are the options cause thats the price range I can afford currently....
Man, a Lambo Superleggera is a Lambo Superleggera. I feel like the NSX will be around in 2-3 years time for you to pick up for cheap on low mileage if you want it.
I'm a brand loyalist...
Like Alpha and jaguar..
EvoX and porsche...
Joongkookie and Miata....oh wait...
Like Alpha and jaguar..
EvoX and porsche...
Joongkookie and Miata....oh wait...
Alpha didn't own a Jaguar until very recently (I think the XJ was for his father?), and remember that he owned multiple Audis before that.
Hey now, if Mazda still made a new Mazdaspeed3 or MS6 I’d definitely have gotten over the GTI I think lol.
EDIT: Washed, polished and waxed my GTI earlier... I'm definitely gonna try out a detail shop next lol.
In the interest of speeding up the process, I took the car to my local drive-thru car wash just for the wash and I polished and waxed it myself after. But I totally forgot that my orbital buffer, a Harbor Freight special, went kaput last year... and there was no chance in hell I was gonna drive 10 miles to my closest HF to pick up another one coz my car will just get dirty again so I opted to do everything by hand.
It took me an hour to polish and about half an hour for wax. Had I washed it myself, it would've taken me a grand total of 2.5 hours instead of the 1.5 right now. So yeah, I'm definitely gonna try the detail shop next as I also want to clay the car and use that 1.5 hours for other things lol.
EDIT: Washed, polished and waxed my GTI earlier... I'm definitely gonna try out a detail shop next lol.
In the interest of speeding up the process, I took the car to my local drive-thru car wash just for the wash and I polished and waxed it myself after. But I totally forgot that my orbital buffer, a Harbor Freight special, went kaput last year... and there was no chance in hell I was gonna drive 10 miles to my closest HF to pick up another one coz my car will just get dirty again so I opted to do everything by hand.
It took me an hour to polish and about half an hour for wax. Had I washed it myself, it would've taken me a grand total of 2.5 hours instead of the 1.5 right now. So yeah, I'm definitely gonna try the detail shop next as I also want to clay the car and use that 1.5 hours for other things lol.
By reilo Go To PostMitsubishi released a new Eclipse… and it's a crossover??Mitsubishi is dead to me with the death of the Evo.
By shinshoryuken Go To PostI'm a brand loyalist…
Like Alpha and jaguar..
EvoX and porsche…
Joongkookie and Miata….oh wait…
Not really a brand loyalist. I've had Acura, BMW, and Mitsubishi in the past. And while I work for and currently drive a Porsche, I would get a 458 Speciale or Huracan Performante all day if I could afford to.
My vote definitely goes to the Superleggera in your case. Much more special and I doubt you would lose anything if and when you decide to sell it.
On another note, did some routine maintenance and small tweaks on the GT4 to celebrate its 2 year anniversary and man what a difference!
Oil change and brake fluid flush so it pulls harder and stops better. Very easy to do with access to my friends power tools and lift. Never seen the underside of my car before. Lol. Also gave me an opportunity for a thorough detail of the brake calipers and wheels including barrels. Not too hard since they're Modesta coated.
Also, permanently opened up the exhaust valves so I don't have to press the button everytime. Gives it a more aggressive note under 4K RPMs as well. Lastly, adjusted the rear sway bar to its stiffest setting to make the rear end more playful with more oversteer at the limit. Should have done it day one.
Facing a dilemma now. Do I do the responsible thing and keep it stock until I upgrade to a new car or fuck it and add some race headers and a tune?
By Evo X Go To PostNot really a brand loyalist. I've had Acura, BMW, and Mitsubishi in the past. And while I work for and currently drive a Porsche, I would get a 458 Speciale or Huracan Performante all day if I could afford to.
My vote definitely goes to the Superleggera in your case. Much more special and I doubt you would lose anything if and when you decide to sell it.
On another note, did some routine maintenance and small tweaks on the GT4 to celebrate its 2 year anniversary and man what a difference!
Oil change and brake fluid flush so it pulls harder and stops better. Very easy to do with access to my friends power tools and lift. Never seen the underside of my car before. Lol. Also gave me an opportunity for a thorough detail of the brake calipers and wheels including barrels. Not too hard since they're Modesta coated.
Also, permanently opened up the exhaust valves so I don't have to press the button everytime. Gives it a more aggressive note under 4K RPMs as well. Lastly, adjusted the rear sway bar to its stiffest setting to make the rear end more playful with more oversteer at the limit. Should have done it day one.
Facing a dilemma now. Do I do the responsible thing and keep it stock until I upgrade to a new car or fuck it and add some race headers and a tune?
How you doing brotha? I haven't been too active here but glad you are here still to give me your feed back.
Concerning tuning, for me headers and a tune is fine because they can easily be brought back to stock.
But the thing is, once you start, it's hard to stop. Plus will you never get back the cost of the aftermarket parts.
By reilo Go To PostAlpha didn't own a Jaguar until very recently (I think the XJ was for his father?), and remember that he owned multiple Audis before that.
Nah, definitely not recently. It's been 6 years now. I bought my first Jag, a 2012 XF, before I moved to FL. I wasn't baller enough to go for an XJ. Not even close. We never had an XJ. I have a 2016 XF now (which was my 2nd Jag and family car) and my XKR is my 3rd Jag. So I've had a total of 3.
The first Audi I owned back in 2009 was with my father. And then the 2012 Audi we also got together, and I thought about taking it with me to FL but I started disliking the car and its reliability, which is when I left it in NYC for him to finish the payments on (he still liked the car).
By shinshoryuken Go To PostI've been seeing nicesly optioned slightly used one for around 150k or less. And theres plenty to choose from…
So…looks like you guys opinion is split…
The weird thing is if I get an NSX..it will have the same info-taiment system as my Honda Fit…
Also I think mashoutposse is right,. I'll probably get bored of it after 3 months…
Well, there's a number of factors. I like the rarity of the NSX. People don't know wtf it is in general. I like the tech behind it too. I like the perceived reliability, and especially that it's also a new car, so running costs will be very low. Unfortunately, between NY and Florida, and my brother's Performante, I've been desensitized to Lambos.
My real vote would be for a slightly used McLaren 570. That's what I'd buy if I had coin to drop on an exotic. I'm big on British cars, but I also like to try something new and unique. It's one of the reasons the XKR suits me so well and why I love it so much.
By AlphaSnacks Go To PostWell, there's a number of factors. I like the rarity of the NSX. People don't know wtf it is in general. I like the tech behind it too. I like the perceived reliability, and especially that it's also a new car, so running costs will be very low. Unfortunately, between NY and Florida, and my brother's Performante, I've been desensitized to Lambos.
My real vote would be for a slightly used McLaren 570. That's what I'd buy if I had coin to drop on an exotic. I'm big on British cars, but I also like to try something new and unique. It's one of the reasons the XKR suits me so well and why I love it so much.
I'm in the Cali, so it not really that rare here...well nothing is rare here. But everyone do drive a Tesla here...
I know the NSX will be way more practical ....
My budget doesn't allow me to get a car that the door doesn't open horizontally ....so McLaren is out of the picture.
But I like the contrast of having a raw, obnoxious and quirky car.
NSX, will be very easy comfortable to drive, it's like going thru a level in a video game. ..in contrast the lambo will be the boss fight.
I know I haven't been an active poster here, but I'm not just pulling you guys legs...I'm really torn on this and your option will help me decide on what car it will be.
I test drove the NSX today. Very competent car. As someone also with a car with modified exhaust (full Innotech iPE from headers to tips; sounds like an old F1 car, spits flames), this car is not a suitable replacement. It is fast, but won't wow you coming out of a modified G. This is a car where you'll be doing a few more mph in it over your pace in the G in most situations, but not feel like it nor be particularly entertained by it (assuming street driving). Handles well enough, as expected from a current generation car. Cockpit has a lot of regular-Acura DNA. Sound is decent in Track mode, but is a million miles behind a high-revving Italian with aftermarket exhaust, and I don't see (hear) the pathway to closing that gap. Looks are OK for a car in this class - 7/10. Overall, the car seems designed to do 12,000 miles a year. Does everything well, but not exceptionally fun nor dramatic.
Drove the 570GT with S Handling Pack yesterday. Meaningfully more special (doors, cockpit, power delivery, overall UI). Another very capable car that doesn't quite satisfy on the subjective measures. I'd take it over the NSX.
I think your best bet is to check the box and buy your white Superleggera.
Drove the 570GT with S Handling Pack yesterday. Meaningfully more special (doors, cockpit, power delivery, overall UI). Another very capable car that doesn't quite satisfy on the subjective measures. I'd take it over the NSX.
I think your best bet is to check the box and buy your white Superleggera.
I’ve seen a fair share of Lambos and McLarens between San José and Burlingame. I’ve yet to see an NSX driving about. More Ferraris than any of them though.
shin, what about the Audi R8 RWS? Only 320 are being made for the US, which would put it in a very unique category, and you'd be within the Lambo-ish family. It's also $139,000 MSRP.
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/04/15/audi-r8-rws-rear-wheel-drive-price-139950/
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/04/15/audi-r8-rws-rear-wheel-drive-price-139950/
By mashoutposse Go To PostI test drove the NSX today. Very competent car. As someone also with a car with modified exhaust (full Innotech iPE from headers to tips; sounds like an old F1 car, spits flames), this car is not a suitable replacement. It is fast, but won't wow you coming out of a modified G. This is a car where you'll be doing a few more mph in it over your pace in the G in most situations, but not feel like it nor be particularly entertained by it (assuming street driving). Handles well enough, as expected from a current generation car. Cockpit has a lot of regular-Acura DNA. Sound is decent in Track mode, but is a million miles behind a high-revving Italian with aftermarket exhaust, and I don't see (hear) the pathway to closing that gap. Looks are OK for a car in this class - 7/10. Overall, the car seems designed to do 12,000 miles a year. Does everything well, but not exceptionally fun nor dramatic.Per the bolded above, I think this basically the issue with most modern cars. The capability is almost pointless outside of a track. I'm not talking E30 M3 vs F80 M3 kind of a difference, but the sharp change that started happening in the late part of the 00s through now. If I were a member at a track like Thermal and that kind of use was my weekend joy, then it's a different thing entirely. I think that's a fairly small demographic for owners of exotics, let alone sports cars.
Drove the 570GT with S Handling Pack yesterday. Meaningfully more special (doors, cockpit, power delivery, overall UI). Another very capable car that doesn't quite satisfy on the subjective measures. I'd take it over the NSX.
I think your best bet is to check the box and buy your white Superleggera.
Perhaps as that performance gap continues to widen, I'll change my mind. But the speeds one can carry with performance cars from 10-15 years ago was already a bit over the top for canyons and back roads.
Totally agree with the Superleggera purchase for all the same reasons.
By reilo Go To Postshin, what about the Audi R8 RWS? Only 320 are being made for the US, which would put it in a very unique category, and you'd be within the Lambo-ish family. It's also $139,000 MSRP.
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/04/15/audi-r8-rws-rear-wheel-drive-price-139950/
I doubt it will be anywhere near MSRP...mark up and options will make it 200k easy.
By reilo Go To Postshin, what about the Audi R8 RWS? Only 320 are being made for the US, which would put it in a very unique category, and you'd be within the Lambo-ish family. It's also $139,000 MSRP.
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/04/15/audi-r8-rws-rear-wheel-drive-price-139950/
Now that's a worthwhile proposition. The detuned 540HP V10 is literally just throttle being programmed to not open past 80% at WOT. Nothing more than an ECU flash required to achieve all 600HP. Same as the last R8 and Gallardos.