By Kidjr Go To PostHere in lies the problem, better cars at that price point imoYou really have to be careful with that descriptor "better" because it needs to be qualified. The 911's are of course going to be better track and performance cars but they will also be louder, rougher riding and have less room for people and stuff. The RS5 is more of a fast (and very capable) GT while the 911 is closer to a pure sports car. There might be a few people who cross shop a used 911 versus a new RS5 but other than being fast, well built, 6 cylinder and German they really don't have a ton in common.
The value of a great grand tourer with high performance that looks great is really not something that common anymore. Practicality (especially for someone with a kid) is huge. And while a used 991 911 is amazing, some people don't want that type of experience.
I actually briefly considered getting an S5 sportback (and would have considered an RS5 version even more so) when I did this latest round of car shopping, but settled on doing 2 cars with my budget instead of one so that I could have more purpose built stuff. Works out pretty well for me but I can see why it doesn't for everyone for sure.
By Christberg Go To PostI actually briefly considered getting an S5 sportback (and would have considered an RS5 version even more so) when I did this latest round of car shopping, but settled on doing 2 cars with my budget instead of one so that I could have more purpose built stuff. Works out pretty well for me but I can see why it doesn't for everyone for sure.If you have the space I think that is a good solution. My wife has her Altima and then we share the Lexus GX SUV and I have my Miata. I think space is probably the primary reason more people don't do this but it works out well if you can swing it.
Any idea why GM updates the camaro every year(might be two)? Other makes go through a 4-5 year stretch before they see a refresh or restyling so I don't get why they refresh it so fast. Same with their two trucks, silverado and sierra.
Man ... with the new 208/2019 body of the Silverado coming out, Chevy has some serious discounts coming out on the 2017. A local dealer here has (7) 4 door LTZ short beds for 33K brand fucking new. Down the street my sister just bought a GMC Sierra SLT+ package with air conditioned seats and all kinds of shit for 36K.
By Fenderputty Go To PostMan … with the new 208/2019 body of the Silverado coming out, Chevy has some serious discounts coming out on the 2017. A local dealer here has (7) 4 door LTZ short beds for 33K brand fucking new. Down the street my sister just bought a GMC Sierra SLT+ package with air conditioned seats and all kinds of shit for 36K.
LTZ trim usually goes for ~50k+ options, that's crazy.
Good time to buy a leftover 2017, if you can find one. All kinds of discounts to be had for dealers who just want to move the old inventory.
I'm sorry ... I know years come out kind mid year sometimes. She bought a 2018. Not even random 2017 that's lasted without sale. Shit is nuts. 36K for the SLT+ ...
I feel like going and buying one even though I shouldn't because they're such a good deal.
I feel like going and buying one even though I shouldn't because they're such a good deal.
been thinking heavy about a truck myself as of late. kind of why i asked about the raptor not too far back.
By Smokey Go To Postbeen thinking heavy about a truck myself as of late. kind of why i asked about the raptor not too far back.Unless you have a reason you need a truck, you will have probably have more fun with just about anything else.
Have you driven a full-size truck before? And tried to park it in a city?
By Kibner Go To PostUnless you have a reason you need a truck, you will have probably have more fun with just about anything else.
Have you driven a full-size truck before? And tried to park it in a city?
In my eyes, I don't consider the purchase of a truck as a "fun" vehicle. It'd be similar to a SUV. Just nice to have.
I'm in Houston. EVERYBODY has a fucking truck. Every time I parked my 335i, it never failed. I'd come out and a fucking truck was parked next to me. Infuriating.
Yeah, but doing the parking yourself is a pain in the ass. Probably not as bad with all the cameras now, though.
If you just need the utility of it, a Raptor is extreme overkill, imo. I would rather a single cab with a longer bed in order to carry more/longer stuff.
If you just need the utility of it, a Raptor is extreme overkill, imo. I would rather a single cab with a longer bed in order to carry more/longer stuff.
I also have strange urges to purchase a raptor as well. I think it is probably from all the time I spent in trucks as a kid growing up. From launching boats to yard work to construction.
Whether its 2012 or 2018, one thing is certain: Smokey still talking about getting a new car.
Hahaha
Hahaha
By Kibner Go To PostUnless you have a reason you need a truck, you will have probably have more fun with just about anything else.
Have you driven a full-size truck before? And tried to park it in a city?
Comfort levels are at an all time high with the suspension of these newer half ton full size trucks. It’s basically a luxury vehicle with utility. Especially with four doors. I can’t tell you how much I miss my truck. The convenience of having even a short bed is amazing to toss things in.
Besides the fact that I’m huge, having kids makes a full size nice too.
Do anything off road and it only adds a cherry on top IMO.
In my perfect I won the lottery tomorrow type scenario, I still own a truck. Lol it goes along with my Panamera, but I have a truck.
I wouldn’t get a Raptor if I wasn’t off roading. I would just get leveling spacer and bigger tires on an F150 and save me 20k
I loved my 95' F-150 XLT from high school and early college. Had a camper shell that I would occasionally pop on and get good use out of, too. If I had a reason to use one regularly again, it would be nice to get another truck.
I don't miss being asked to help all my friends move, though, even though it did come with lots of free food and some good times.
I don't miss being asked to help all my friends move, though, even though it did come with lots of free food and some good times.
Utility for a luxury car could be as simple as keeping dirty cleats out of your car and in the bed after soccer / baseball practice. Been 20 years since that 95 F150. They drive like cars now and come packed with features. You can find utility going to the beach, Home Depot or any other number of activities that surround a family. My sisters LTZ has air conditioned seats my dude lol that V8 drops to 4cl when cruising too. I get around 17 in my Tahoe but have done trumps where I’ve averaged 22-23
By AlphaSnacks Go To PostWhether its 2012 or 2018, one thing is certain: Smokey still talking about getting a new car.
Hahaha
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And yeah modern trucks, especially higher end ones, are comfortable as fuck.
Yeah, I'm not discounting the comfort or luxury advances. Just really think about how much you will use the extra utility.
I miss the El Camino. :(
I miss the El Camino. :(
Would you guys get an everyday practical very fast supecar( new NSX) or a slightly older slower super rare unicorn car that's more raw and viseral?
By shinshoryuken Go To PostWould you guys get an everyday practical very fast supecar( new NSX) or a slightly older slower super rare unicorn car that's more raw and viseral?
What's the other option?
I enjoyed my limited time behind the wheel of the new NSX. Fast and capable. Worth a try if you want to sample something different from the Italians.
My personal non-Italian choice in the NSX price range is the McLaren 570S. Used 2016s are only a few bucks more than the NSX; you get even more speed and a more exotic ownership experience (doors, brand name).
By mashoutposse Go To PostWhat's the other option?
I enjoyed my limited time behind the wheel of the new NSX. Fast and capable. Worth a try if you want to sample something different from the Italians.
My personal non-Italian choice in the NSX price range is the McLaren 570S. Used 2016s are only a few bucks more than the NSX; you get even more speed and a more exotic ownership experience (doors, brand name).
Looked into McLaren's but the maintenance scares me...
By shinshoryuken Go To PostWould you guys get an everyday practical very fast supecar( new NSX) or a slightly older slower super rare unicorn car that's more raw and viseral?NSX all the way. Honda build quality and supercar looks and performance - yes, please.
Of course it depends on how you want to use it. Is it a track toy? Then I might look at an older, more raw car that doesn't have the creature comforts of the NSX. Will it be driven to do "everyday" sorts of things? Then yeah, NSX all the way.
By Apollo Go To PostFuck trucks for lifeYeah I'm not at all a truck person either. My one concession was the Lexus GX470 (which fits tons of stuff in the back with the seats down) but is still a body on frame 4 wheel drive vehicle. It's gotten me through several snow events and is quiet and comfortable for 4 adults when I need it to be. It actually drives decently well also but I don't have to be in it long before I start missing my MX-5.
By matmanx1 Go To PostNSX all the way. Honda build quality and supercar looks and performance - yes, please.
Of course it depends on how you want to use it. Is it a track toy? Then I might look at an older, more raw car that doesn't have the creature comforts of the NSX. Will it be driven to do "everyday" sorts of things? Then yeah, NSX all the way.
Won't be a daily driver at all. More like 1k or 2k miles a year.
By reilo Go To PostThe new Focus is hideousLooks ok from some angles and bad from others. Looks a bit generic if anything.
By NinjaFridge Go To PostLooks ok from some angles and bad from others. Looks a bit generic if anything.It's design language is starting to blend with Kia (imo) right now with the new Focus
You know what more than anything (even the front-end) bugs me about the new Vantage? The steering wheel.
By shinshoryuken Go To PostWon't be a daily driver at all. More like 1k or 2k miles a year.
NSX isn't special enough for that kind of limited driving.
Your description of the other car makes way more sense for that use case ("slightly older slower super rare unicorn car that's more raw and viseral"). What car do you have in mind?
I can't seem to get excited about that Aston in that particular color. Maybe if I saw it in person? As it is, I think it should have flashing red lights and silver reflector tape as a first responder type vehicle.
By matmanx1 Go To PostYou really have to be careful with that descriptor "better" because it needs to be qualified. The 911's are of course going to be better track and performance cars but they will also be louder, rougher riding and have less room for people and stuff. The RS5 is more of a fast (and very capable) GT while the 911 is closer to a pure sports car. There might be a few people who cross shop a used 911 versus a new RS5 but other than being fast, well built, 6 cylinder and German they really don't have a ton in common.Though you're totally right about cross shopping an RS5 with 911, the 991 is super comfortable with an actual usable back seat. Kids, dogs, and even car seats for toddlers fit in there no prob. Go back to a 997 and it's a different story. Kids still fit, but it's snug.
By Kibner Go To PostYeah, but doing the parking yourself is a pain in the ass. Probably not as bad with all the cameras now, though.I feel like this is extremely overblown. If you're in a heavy city center, sure. But anything remotely similar to a suburb or even a sprawled city (like Houston) is a piece of cake. You might have to park out further in the lot, but it's not hard to park even a HD 2500/3500. Half tons are a piece of cake.
If you just need the utility of it, a Raptor is extreme overkill, imo. I would rather a single cab with a longer bed in order to carry more/longer stuff.
By shinshoryuken Go To PostWould you guys get an everyday practical very fast supecar( new NSX) or a slightly older slower super rare unicorn car that's more raw and viseral?Older, all the way. Sports cars have three purposes.
1) The experience of driving it.
2) Being seen in it.
3) Track time to experience the full potential.
If you're not after #3 regularly, that older unicorn car almost certainly does #1 and #2 better than whatever new car for the same or higher price. #3 is where getting something new could potentially be better, especially in a competitive sense. #drivetastefully
Hehe, I love #drivetastefully as a tag-line. It's definitely one of the top criteria for my next car purchase. There are a few practical things that it must do well (like not beat me up with the ride, have comfortable seats and a decent to good stereo) but other than that, if it isn't good looking and stylish then I'm not interested.
Is it worth spending good money for a proper exterior detail or should I DIY it and get a wash/detail kit instead?
With the Miata, it was pretty dang easy to wash myself(not to mention I'm forced to anyway coz of the cloth top) but with the GTI it's just a little more work... combine it with laziness... I just take it to a drive thru wash that does a pretty decent job of keeping it clean for about a week lol.
Though I think a more important question, is it worth spending all the extra time to keep your daily show car clean? Free of swirls and other imperfections?
Or is it not worth the cost and effort for a daily driver?
Also, LA/SoCal was really interesting. So much goddamn BMW's, Mini Coopers, and riced out cars. Drove through Rodeo Drive to hit the Santa Monica pier and the number of supercars left and right was staggering. It looked like I was in the middle of a Forza Horizon event lol. Best part was the neighbor in my uncle's subdivision in Palm Springs... on the driveway was a 1st gen NSX, and a G-Wagen carrying an NA Miata on a trailer. @___@
With the Miata, it was pretty dang easy to wash myself(not to mention I'm forced to anyway coz of the cloth top) but with the GTI it's just a little more work... combine it with laziness... I just take it to a drive thru wash that does a pretty decent job of keeping it clean for about a week lol.
Though I think a more important question, is it worth spending all the extra time to keep your daily show car clean? Free of swirls and other imperfections?
Or is it not worth the cost and effort for a daily driver?
Also, LA/SoCal was really interesting. So much goddamn BMW's, Mini Coopers, and riced out cars. Drove through Rodeo Drive to hit the Santa Monica pier and the number of supercars left and right was staggering. It looked like I was in the middle of a Forza Horizon event lol. Best part was the neighbor in my uncle's subdivision in Palm Springs... on the driveway was a 1st gen NSX, and a G-Wagen carrying an NA Miata on a trailer. @___@
I had the transmission fluid on my XKR done today. What a world of a difference.
If you own a car with a ZF gearbox, you absolutely MUST get this service done. My car has only 37K miles, but they're somewhat hard driven. And while the OEMs say the fluid is lifetime, the PDFs I've found directly from ZF actually state the following:
"5-, 6-, 8- and 9-speed as well as 4HP20 automatic transmissions:
ZF 5-, 6-, 8- and 9-speed as well as the ZF 4HP20 automatic transmissions are filled maintenance-free with specially developed
partially synthetic ATF oils. Maintenance-free fills are intended for normal operating conditions. Especially driving at very high
operating temperatures can result in accelerated aging or increased wear of ATF oils. In case of above-average operating
conditions, such as:
- frequent freeway driving in the upper speed range
- offensive, sporty driving style
- frequent trailer operation
it is recommended to refresh (change) the oil of the automatic transmission every 100,000 km or no later than after 8 years"
I would heed this advice for any transmission. This is a component that can spin at tens of thousands of RPMs at any given moment (obviously in only the early gears, but that's where the most fun happens, anyway). My oil fluid was pitch black. Absolutely no translucent quality to it at all, and its viscosity was notably degraded and more watery, compared to the clean, new, and yellow fluid. For $500 (the fluid was most of the cost) this is a service I highly recommend.
The feel of the transmission is immediately different. Less jolt from every shift, noticeably smoother 1-2 shifts, and even when the car comes to a halt and performs a 2-1 shift, it's no longer felt. All other shifts between gear 2-6 are less perceptible than before. Again, it has considerably improved performance, just as doing the diff fluid change.
Don't skimp out on this service, folks.
If you own a car with a ZF gearbox, you absolutely MUST get this service done. My car has only 37K miles, but they're somewhat hard driven. And while the OEMs say the fluid is lifetime, the PDFs I've found directly from ZF actually state the following:
"5-, 6-, 8- and 9-speed as well as 4HP20 automatic transmissions:
ZF 5-, 6-, 8- and 9-speed as well as the ZF 4HP20 automatic transmissions are filled maintenance-free with specially developed
partially synthetic ATF oils. Maintenance-free fills are intended for normal operating conditions. Especially driving at very high
operating temperatures can result in accelerated aging or increased wear of ATF oils. In case of above-average operating
conditions, such as:
- frequent freeway driving in the upper speed range
- offensive, sporty driving style
- frequent trailer operation
it is recommended to refresh (change) the oil of the automatic transmission every 100,000 km or no later than after 8 years"
I would heed this advice for any transmission. This is a component that can spin at tens of thousands of RPMs at any given moment (obviously in only the early gears, but that's where the most fun happens, anyway). My oil fluid was pitch black. Absolutely no translucent quality to it at all, and its viscosity was notably degraded and more watery, compared to the clean, new, and yellow fluid. For $500 (the fluid was most of the cost) this is a service I highly recommend.
The feel of the transmission is immediately different. Less jolt from every shift, noticeably smoother 1-2 shifts, and even when the car comes to a halt and performs a 2-1 shift, it's no longer felt. All other shifts between gear 2-6 are less perceptible than before. Again, it has considerably improved performance, just as doing the diff fluid change.
Don't skimp out on this service, folks.
Speaking of XKs, drove along a facelift regular XK on my way to work today. Man is that one sexy car.
Cant really say if I prefer the facelift or the original thats more reminiscent of the E-type.
Cant really say if I prefer the facelift or the original thats more reminiscent of the E-type.
By jongkookie Go To PostIs it worth spending good money for a proper exterior detail or should I DIY it and get a wash/detail kit instead?I think that is mostly up to you and how often your car gets dirty enough to bother you. That time /money equation varies across people, too.
With the Miata, it was pretty dang easy to wash myself(not to mention I'm forced to anyway coz of the cloth top) but with the GTI it's just a little more work… combine it with laziness… I just take it to a drive thru wash that does a pretty decent job of keeping it clean for about a week lol.
Though I think a more important question, is it worth spending all the extra time to keep your daily show car clean? Free of swirls and other imperfections?
Or is it not worth the cost and effort for a daily driver?
Doubling down on Alpha's recommendation of the Super Sports earlier, last Friday I had my winters switched out with my newly repaired/repainted wheels and some Michelin PS4S (which is basically the same thing as the SS with more even wear and slightly better wet traction). Holy crap.
I've only had 2 days since then where I could really get the tires up to temp, but the grip was seriously astounding. With my last set, which is what the prior owner bought, Conti Extreme All Seasons, I couldnt WOT in 1st or 2nd without completely losing grip. Now it just goes. The loss of grip in corners is a slow transition too, there's a ton of communication there so you can dial in throttle and steering just right. The M5 was already really confidence inspiring, but this is another level entirely. Steering feel is better with a lot more communication going to my fingertips.
If you have the right stuff, it's really not hard to do yourself. As long as you keep a good polymer seal on, or look at getting a ceramic coating. Then the two bucket system is a piece of cake. Clay the troublesome areas if needed once a year, and renew that polyseal every 3 months. I can have both the Challenger and the M5 done within 30 minutes.
I've used Optiseal and Blackfire over the past two years, both work great. Dirt just falls off no problem, and far less sticks to it between washes. During winter, I just go through a touchless car wash or to one of the DIY places for maintenance washes. Allows you to get most of the crap off without ruining your paint.
*edit for pics now that imgur is alive*
I've only had 2 days since then where I could really get the tires up to temp, but the grip was seriously astounding. With my last set, which is what the prior owner bought, Conti Extreme All Seasons, I couldnt WOT in 1st or 2nd without completely losing grip. Now it just goes. The loss of grip in corners is a slow transition too, there's a ton of communication there so you can dial in throttle and steering just right. The M5 was already really confidence inspiring, but this is another level entirely. Steering feel is better with a lot more communication going to my fingertips.
By jongkookie Go To PostIs it worth spending good money for a proper exterior detail or should I DIY it and get a wash/detail kit instead?THE SWIRLS. I'm not a perfectionist by any means, I *use* my cars. The back of my M5 has hair from two Border Collies shedding winter coats, dirt from their paws, and smears from my toddler. But a carwash is like putting your vehicle through soft sandpaper.
With the Miata, it was pretty dang easy to wash myself(not to mention I'm forced to anyway coz of the cloth top) but with the GTI it's just a little more work… combine it with laziness… I just take it to a drive thru wash that does a pretty decent job of keeping it clean for about a week lol.
Though I think a more important question, is it worth spending all the extra time to keep your daily show car clean? Free of swirls and other imperfections?
Or is it not worth the cost and effort for a daily driver?
Also, LA/SoCal was really interesting. So much goddamn BMW's, Mini Coopers, and riced out cars. Drove through Rodeo Drive to hit the Santa Monica pier and the number of supercars left and right was staggering. It looked like I was in the middle of a Forza Horizon event lol. Best part was the neighbor in my uncle's subdivision in Palm Springs… on the driveway was a 1st gen NSX, and a G-Wagen carrying an NA Miata on a trailer. @___@
If you have the right stuff, it's really not hard to do yourself. As long as you keep a good polymer seal on, or look at getting a ceramic coating. Then the two bucket system is a piece of cake. Clay the troublesome areas if needed once a year, and renew that polyseal every 3 months. I can have both the Challenger and the M5 done within 30 minutes.
I've used Optiseal and Blackfire over the past two years, both work great. Dirt just falls off no problem, and far less sticks to it between washes. During winter, I just go through a touchless car wash or to one of the DIY places for maintenance washes. Allows you to get most of the crap off without ruining your paint.
*edit for pics now that imgur is alive*
Without giving a time frame, Musk in February told analysts the company would aim for production capacity of 1 million Model Ys per year.LOL
By mashoutposse Go To PostWhat's the other option?
I enjoyed my limited time behind the wheel of the new NSX. Fast and capable. Worth a try if you want to sample something different from the Italians.
My personal non-Italian choice in the NSX price range is the McLaren 570S. Used 2016s are only a few bucks more than the NSX; you get even more speed and a more exotic ownership experience (doors, brand name).
Need help guys!!
I know it's not a popular opinion but I'm thinking of getting a different Gallardo.
Still an Pre-Lp not an LP.
Not a 6 speed but an egear.
But it's a superleggera and the color is white.
If you guys are not aware of the rareness of this car, here's the breakdown:
Only 172 shipped to the US.
Only 10 color white
2 got wrecked
6 got twin turbo
2 only remaining N/A in the US.
I will be getting 1 of 2 N/A white superleggera in the US.
Or get the new NSX.
Help!
This will sound weird but the only Turbo or N/A 6-cyl I could drop $150-200k for is a Porsche one. Sorry, Honda.
By Smokey Go To PostMan I'd probably go for the new NSX tbh
Why though?
By reilo Go To PostThis will sound weird but the only Turbo or N/A 6-cyl I could drop $150-200k for is a Porsche one. Sorry, Honda.
Well it's not just 6-cyl ..it has electric motors. Soo very smooth. Shift are smooth like butter.
The superleggera probably one of the best sounding v10 in existence. Shift feels like a jackhammer hitting you from behind.
By shinshoryuken Go To PostWhy though?
why not?
try something different
unless you really want the lambo because it's rare, which is understandable