Insane he's able to just casually say the quite part so loud on TV like that, goes to show you just how much they give a flying fuck about any condemnation from the West with regards to what they're doing to the uyghur people.
"They are the same"
"They are the same"
starting to seem like hating on the suburbs is a privilege check or something
if you're not trying to leave these unlivable urban hellholes then you either gave up or love circling the drain. Gotta be insane moving to a US metro on purpose making less than median income and that goes back generations....
if you're not trying to leave these unlivable urban hellholes then you either gave up or love circling the drain. Gotta be insane moving to a US metro on purpose making less than median income and that goes back generations....
The purpose of moving to the city metro is to land a job that pays more than the median income, meet like-minded young people (if you just left uni) and enjoy the general benefits of what a city life can offer. For people who are older the city may not be great.
Two thirds of all economic growth is going to happen in cities.
Two thirds of all economic growth is going to happen in cities.
Dad's little suburb pitched a fit when he landscaped a yard without grass/a lawn over 2 decades now. Basically told them to eat shit. Now it looks so forward thinking. Lawn requirements in HoAs should just be null and void from here on out. Just do native plants and rocks and shit.
Doesn’t really make sense to consider city living to be inherently “privileged” when there’s huge economic stratification between city blocks and neighbourhoods, let alone the entirety of the city itself.
Besides, the suburbs have forever been associated with privilege, stuff like gated communities, giant front lawns, multiple cars, etc etc. At least in the American sense… suburbs in Europe and Asia are pleasant af to be and live in and don’t really carry the same connotations as American ones.
Besides, the suburbs have forever been associated with privilege, stuff like gated communities, giant front lawns, multiple cars, etc etc. At least in the American sense… suburbs in Europe and Asia are pleasant af to be and live in and don’t really carry the same connotations as American ones.
By DY_nasty Go To Poststarting to seem like hating on the suburbs is a privilege check or somethingThe problem really isn't the suburbs themselves, but their narrow and often restrictive zoning laws.
if you're not trying to leave these unlivable urban hellholes then you either gave up or love circling the drain. Gotta be insane moving to a US metro on purpose making less than median income and that goes back generations….
Euclidean zoning means the only thing that can be built in the burbs is single-family housing.
hugely restrictive, horrible for the environment cause you have drive to do anything.
Why does it seem like Americans always think “a city” only consists of downtown-like areas? See this kind of stuff often. Like where I live it’s mostly a mix of a few high-rise and low-rise buildings, duplexes, and single family homes etc. Don’t understand the “urban hellhole” description of cities.
This is how America is broken down.
1 Super dense urban hellholes that are unlivable unless you make 150k
2. Suburbs where it's a 30 minute car ride to the grocery store to pick up the one ingredient you were missing for your recipe.
3. Rural areas where the next sign of life is a mile away.
1 Super dense urban hellholes that are unlivable unless you make 150k
2. Suburbs where it's a 30 minute car ride to the grocery store to pick up the one ingredient you were missing for your recipe.
3. Rural areas where the next sign of life is a mile away.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostWhy does it seem like Americans always think “a city” only consists of downtown-like areas? See this kind of stuff often. Like where I live it’s mostly a mix of a few high-rise and low-rise buildings, duplexes, and single family homes etc. Don’t understand the “urban hellhole” description of cities.Montreal deserves kudos for how they've planned urban living (fuck our roads though). There are duplexes, triplexes, 4/5/6-plexes everywhere. You dont see many high rises outside of core downtown and pockets of areas here and there.
Even the new condo's being built, many of them are only 6-7 floors (with commerce on the 1st floor). We're putting a lot of emphasis on urban planning, urban living, bike roads, greenery and etc. We're actually doing the work on this front, it's great.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostDoesn’t really make sense to consider city living to be inherently “privileged” when there’s huge economic stratification between city blocks and neighbourhoods, let alone the entirety of the city itself.And for whatever reason no one talks about the communities that emerged in spite of that discrimination that turned out just fine lol
Besides, the suburbs have forever been associated with privilege, stuff like gated communities, giant front lawns, multiple cars, etc etc. At least in the American sense… suburbs in Europe and Asia are pleasant af to be and live in and don’t really carry the same connotations as American ones.
It's always conspicuously laid out to anyone who knows better. Chicago versus the areas outside of it that are great. Baltimore versus some of the best black communities in the nation just further down the road. Etc. I thought it went without saying, but its pretty deliberate for a lot of reasons.
You guys say going to the cities is great because jobs are waiting for you. Which is cool. That opportunity isn't even a possibility for many who grew up there and it's getting worse because all of the development is aimed at transients with actual career paths instead of the folks that got churned up and are essentially fucked. Poor people only get counted properly when its convenient anyways 😂
By Perfect Blue Go To PostWhy does it seem like Americans always think “a city” only consists of downtown-like areas? See this kind of stuff often. Like where I live it’s mostly a mix of a few high-rise and low-rise buildings, duplexes, and single family homes etc. Don’t understand the “urban hellhole” description of cities.Yes, those good old urban renewal projects are great. Meanwhile, what happened to the people who got jazzy jeff'd out to make it possible?
It goes from bad to worse.
Wonder what the median is for a single family home in the East Bay. Went and googled. Sheesh.
The median sale price so far this year in the East Bay is $1,212,500, up from $1,147,500 last year and up a whopping 30% from the 2020 median of $930,750. According to the realtors, many East Bay communities experienced double-digit year-over-year price jumps.
By DY_nasty Go To PostYes, those good old urban renewal projects are great. Meanwhile, what happened to the people who got jazzy jeff'd out to make it possible?Those people got bulldozed out of the way to build giant highways that lead… into the suburbs.
It goes from bad to worse.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostThose people got bulldozed out of the way to build giant highways that lead… into the suburbs.lol the highways are whatever. stacking low income housing on top of itself is the wave now. Put them all right on one transportation line - then lobby build a new one 😂
People were getting evicted over discarded blunts on their porches. Faulty building practices ages ago aren't leading to reimbursement, but being low balled, forced out, and not even allowed appeals. During the pandemic it got even worse because of the rent shenanigans.
If you make it to the suburbs you're plainly lucky. People will gladly take a car note instead of overflowing classrooms, soaring crime, and local governments more concerned with new donors rather than old folks figuring out how to retire.
The new condos are great tho yeah
Fair enough bro I don’t think anyone is saying cities are perfect, certainly not the American incarnation 😂
I don't think I've met one person as negative as DY in my 20 years being on the internet. Dude's giving me anxiety just reading his posts, how can every position taken be a negative one, very monotone. The world isn't as bad as he makes it seem, true story, for those lurking.
Dude needs to move to Canada pronto.
Dude needs to move to Canada pronto.
Dy has those thoughts because he and/or people he knows have lived through it. And, as he has mentioned here before, he has done activist work to help those going through it.
He is relating his learned experiences about how shit has worked. If it's negative, well, that's just how things have been.
I highly doubt moving to Canada would change many of good thoughts on this kind of topic. But I'm also not in his head and have probably spoken for him too much already.
He is relating his learned experiences about how shit has worked. If it's negative, well, that's just how things have been.
I highly doubt moving to Canada would change many of good thoughts on this kind of topic. But I'm also not in his head and have probably spoken for him too much already.
I come from a place where diapers didn't exist, we used rags on newborns. We didn't have electricity in our village, we used fire to cook our food and lanterns for lighting. Access to cars and public transportation was non-existent, and if it did exist we couldn't afford it, so we walked for hours each day, to and back to work. Vaccines? They used the same needle on everyone, cleansing it with an oven stove top fire. You were lucky if you had a middle class level education, if you were a female - forget it. Zero government aid, zero assistance. In fact you were lucky if government didn't bother you. Coups every 10 or so years, economy crashing all the time with hyper inflation... List goes on.
When we first moved here, my dad lined up in -40 weather DT Toronto to land day jobs in construction high rises, hoping some pick up would stop and take him to a job site. He did this for years so we can afford a NES 10 years after it was released. This been a common theme of our lives.
I can go on forever, not mentioning the political and cultural pain we went through. Let alone the racism.
He's not the only one that's lived through it. There are millions, billions of people that have or are living through it right now. But if his general outlook and view is that it needs to be negative for everything than so be it, who am I to judge how anyone lives.
Canada can fix anything. Life is grand, and greatness is in the agency of others.
When we first moved here, my dad lined up in -40 weather DT Toronto to land day jobs in construction high rises, hoping some pick up would stop and take him to a job site. He did this for years so we can afford a NES 10 years after it was released. This been a common theme of our lives.
I can go on forever, not mentioning the political and cultural pain we went through. Let alone the racism.
He's not the only one that's lived through it. There are millions, billions of people that have or are living through it right now. But if his general outlook and view is that it needs to be negative for everything than so be it, who am I to judge how anyone lives.
Canada can fix anything. Life is grand, and greatness is in the agency of others.
And I grew up with basically no problems other than my parents' divorce and my dad's death. Doesn't stop me from being able to empathize with people who have every right to be negative on a pervasive system that refuses to change for the better, despite the best efforts of many.
And Canada can't even fix their cover ups of indigenous genocide.
And Canada can't even fix their cover ups of indigenous genocide.
Damn I guess I can't complain that current society doesn't work for a majority of people because my family and I had it bad but now we got it decent
By Kibner Go To PostAnd Canada can't even fix their cover ups of indigenous genocide.Canada is far from perfect. Had a similarly chaotic upbringing before moving here and the country has been mostly great to me, but I’d be lying if I didn’t say it has its share of problems that the US has as well as some problems unique to us. It sends a wrong message to depict this place as some kind of utopia.
If you went through all that FM, then why does the fact that urban American cities being outright oppressive to many generationally come across as a foreign concept? lol I swear. You don't even add up anymore and no one even wants to figure out why at this point.
And yal not even in America what in the fuck 😂
If anything the Chicago v Chicago Suburbs and Baltimore v Baltimore Suburbs should've rang bells, turned on light switches, and connected dots regarding the disproportionate and warped coverage on each. But no - it's just that much easier to say I'm negative for the sake of being negative instead of taking a step back and considering you might be working with a slight exposure bias.
Let me start up some "The Tories are actually seeing the big picture" or "Venezuela had the blueprint with a crypto based economy" next week. Maybe I'm missing out
And yal not even in America what in the fuck 😂
If anything the Chicago v Chicago Suburbs and Baltimore v Baltimore Suburbs should've rang bells, turned on light switches, and connected dots regarding the disproportionate and warped coverage on each. But no - it's just that much easier to say I'm negative for the sake of being negative instead of taking a step back and considering you might be working with a slight exposure bias.
Let me start up some "The Tories are actually seeing the big picture" or "Venezuela had the blueprint with a crypto based economy" next week. Maybe I'm missing out
Because I'm at an age where I've decided to have a more positive outlook in life, and appreciate how fucking nice it is and how lucky and grateful I am - even with all of its problems.
The world is getting better, not worse. We're living longer, not less, we have more access today than ever before... So on and so forth.
And I'm not saying not to be aware of the negatives or hide the unjust facts that remain under the carpet. But not everything is this terrible hellhole some of you make it out to be.
The world is getting better, not worse. We're living longer, not less, we have more access today than ever before... So on and so forth.
And I'm not saying not to be aware of the negatives or hide the unjust facts that remain under the carpet. But not everything is this terrible hellhole some of you make it out to be.
By Frustrated_me Go To PostYou guys are right 👍🏼 everyone can have WHATEVER view they want in life. Whatever your background.What even is this lol
Like how you go from getting it out the mud to saying shit like this because the discussion was "life is hard for many in urban areas"? Unprompted as hell fuck yals 😂
By Frustrated_me Go To PostBecause I'm at an age where I've decided to have a more positive outlook in life, and appreciate how fucking nice it is and how lucky and grateful I am - even with all of its problems.How about you just let people have their lived experiences and stop the gatekeeping shit.
The world is getting better, not worse. We're living longer, not less, we have more access today than ever before… So on and so forth.
And I'm not saying not to be aware of the negatives or hide the unjust facts that remain under the carpet. But not everything is this terrible hellhole some of you make it out to be.
By Frustrated_me Go To PostBecause I'm at an age where I've decided to have a more positive outlook in life, and appreciate how fucking nice it is and how lucky and grateful I am - even with all of its problems.Brother I think your view is like this because you’ve got it absolutely made right now
The world is getting better, not worse. We're living longer, not less, we have more access today than ever before… So on and so forth.
And I'm not saying not to be aware of the negatives or hide the unjust facts that remain under the carpet. But not everything is this terrible hellhole some of you make it out to be.
Im in a good spot as well atm but toxic positivity isn’t the way
By i can get you a toe Go To PostHow about you just let people have their lived experiences and stop the gatekeeping shit.bro I'm not going to change people's lives or thought process by responding something that opposes their opinions on an online forum. Nobody is here trying to actually change people, I don't think anyone here cares for anyone much enough to get them to actually change.
My views differ from his, that's all. He can respect mine and I can respect his. Doesn't mean we need to agree but we're both grown enough to go back and forth when we can.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostBrother I think your view is like this because you’ve got it absolutely made right nowToxic positivity? Come on man.
Im in a good spot as well atm but toxic positivity isn’t the way
By DY_nasty Go To PostIf you went through all that FM, then why does the fact that urban American cities being outright oppressive to many generationally come across as a foreign concept? lol I swear. You don't even add up anymore and no one even wants to figure out why at this point.I always suspected it but now we have confirmation that dy is a Rees-Mogg supporter.
And yal not even in America what in the fuck 😂
If anything the Chicago v Chicago Suburbs and Baltimore v Baltimore Suburbs should've rang bells, turned on light switches, and connected dots regarding the disproportionate and warped coverage on each. But no - it's just that much easier to say I'm negative for the sake of being negative instead of taking a step back and considering you might be working with a slight exposure bias.
Let me start up some "The Tories are actually seeing the big picture" or "Venezuela had the blueprint with a crypto based economy" next week. Maybe I'm missing out
By Frustrated_me Go To Postbro I'm not going to change people's lives or thought process by responding something that opposes their opinions on an online forum. Nobody is here trying to actually change people, I don't think anyone here cares for anyone much enough to get them to actually change.bro you're absolutely being patronizing and ridiculous
My views differ from his, that's all. He can respect mine and I can respect his. Doesn't mean we need to agree.
how you could post
He's not the only one that's lived through it.as if you know his particular battles as well as
Canada can fix anything. Life is grand, and greatness is in the agency of others.and expect to be taken seriously is some laughs and a half
The point about Canada is in jest bro... It's not actually the greatest place in the universe, contrary to what I've said - though still an amazing place.
Life is indeed grand, and amazing, and my point about greatness being in the agency of others is with regards to living with people in an urban area (population).
I hope for all of the battles he's particularly going through, that he can find a light of hope and positivity around him. There is nothing patronizing about any of this.
Life is indeed grand, and amazing, and my point about greatness being in the agency of others is with regards to living with people in an urban area (population).
I hope for all of the battles he's particularly going through, that he can find a light of hope and positivity around him. There is nothing patronizing about any of this.
By Frustrated_me Go To PostToxic positivity? Come on man.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_positivity
By Perfect Blue Go To Posthttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_positivity🙄
By Frustrated_me Go To PostThe point about Canada is in jest bro… It's not actually the greatest place in the universe, contrary to what I've said - though still an amazing place.If you earnestly cannot see how condescending and patronizing you've been towards someone else's experiences and their disappointment with the current situation, then you should learn to communicate better.
Life is indeed grand, and amazing, and my point about greatness being in the agency of others is with regards to living with people in an urban area (population).
I hope for all of the battles he's particularly going through, that he can find a light of hope and positivity around him. There is nothing patronizing about any of this.
By DY_nasty Go To PostIf you went through all that FM, then why does the fact that urban American cities being outright oppressive to many generationally come across as a foreign concept? lol I swear. You don't even add up anymore and no one even wants to figure out why at this point.Loves The Wire
And yal not even in America what in the fuck 😂
If anything the Chicago v Chicago Suburbs and Baltimore v Baltimore Suburbs should've rang bells, turned on light switches, and connected dots regarding the disproportionate and warped coverage on each. But no - it's just that much easier to say I'm negative for the sake of being negative instead of taking a step back and considering you might be working with a slight exposure bias.
Let me start up some "The Tories are actually seeing the big picture" or "Venezuela had the blueprint with a crypto based economy" next week. Maybe I'm missing out
Doesn't understand why The Wire works
By i can get you a toe Go To PostIf you earnestly cannot see how condescending and patronizing you've been towards someone else's experiences and their disappointment with the current situation, then you should learn to communicate better.I haven't been condescending or patronizing. Like I said above, I'm not here to flock feathers or tell how others to live, and I haven't. I recognize very well that my opinion differs from his, and I've posted respectfully why I think there are reasons to be (in general) positive in life more now than ever before. I have more reasons to list but alas. However, if he's not recieved any of the worlds positive advancements in any way, then I sympathize with him. He lives in a free country, and is allowed to think whatever he wants. If what he posts gives me anxiety, I say that mainly in jest, I don't actually get anxiety from his posts - I hope this was clear?
If I didn't communicate this well enough, then I apologize. No harm.
Bro you're one post removed from telling people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. The reason PB called out your toxic positivity it's because white people in power have for decades have been using that cudgel to bring down oppressed groups.
"Well if I can get out and make a life for myself..."
"Well if I can get out and make a life for myself..."
So then spell it for me, be more direct. If I'm stupid, simplify it.
What's the problem? What harm or foul have I caused him? Have I insulted him? We have a difference in opinion.
What's the problem? What harm or foul have I caused him? Have I insulted him? We have a difference in opinion.
Even if you don't think you're in the business of oppressing anyone, the words you use and the outlook you're imposing with your views is doing it. Your intentions are not lining up with your intended effect.
Many terms are born from this type of thinking that are used to oppress those in need. "Welfare Queen" being one that prominently comes to mind, and it was backed with words and reasonings just like you are using today.
Many terms are born from this type of thinking that are used to oppress those in need. "Welfare Queen" being one that prominently comes to mind, and it was backed with words and reasonings just like you are using today.