Lots of those areas probably won't open much more than they have right now. Schools re-opening is the one large change that I see that could have a huge impact.
California hit a new high today according to worldmeters maybe i should stfu
California hit a new high today according to worldmeters maybe i should stfu
The ridiculous thing is clicking on some of these states and seeing their logarithmic death curves turning ever so slightly upward.
By Pac-12 Go To PostThe ridiculous thing is clicking on some of these states and seeing their logarithmic death curves turning ever so slightly upward.If cases have actually hit a plateau, deaths will continue to trend upwards for a couple more weeks.
By reilo Go To PostđŹReally curious how those mRNA vaccines will work, since that stuff would be a first thing overall.
Would be pretty great. They're cheap and relatively easy to produce and that would hopefully move to further funds for that field.
Baltimore City is shutting down indoor dining again starting this weekend. Maryland had 800 confirmed new cases today.
By Kabro Go To PostLooks like there's talks to extend that $600 unemployment temporarily.
Something change? I was seeing $100 was GOP starting point to December
HEROES act passed the House but not McConnell
As far as I heard GOP was floating some kind of middle ground? Slashing the raise by like $200 but not cutting it outright
As far as I heard GOP was floating some kind of middle ground? Slashing the raise by like $200 but not cutting it outright
Kibner man, I think this analysis is what you wanted yeah
Through July 11, estimated excess deaths were about 33 percent higher than the official coronavirus fatality count. If this pattern holds for the rest of the country, it would put the current death toll at about 190,000 people.
Many epidemiologists believe measuring excess deaths is the best way to assess the impact of the virus in real time. It shows how the virus is altering normal patterns of mortality. The high numbers from the coronavirus pandemic period undermine arguments that the virus is merely killing vulnerable people who would have died anyway.]
By DY_nasty Go To PostThat is just the worst of statistics at work đI haven't read that article but excess deaths is a great way to ballpark the number of deaths directly and indirectly caused by covid and the response to it.
There does need to be more talk done about the margin of error and and an analysis of what kinds of common deaths have decreased and what kinds of deaths have become more common.
By Kibner Go To PostI haven't read that article but excess deaths is a great way to ballpark the number of deaths directly and indirectly caused by covid and the response to it.Id be 100% with you if indirectly were ever a part of these headlines and titles. And even then, we've got quite a bit more than just rona going on.
There does need to be more talk done about the margin of error and and an analysis of what kinds of common deaths have decreased and what kinds of deaths have become more common.
got like three different invites to the same party and I passed
I must say this doesn't feel awfully heroic you guys
just the notion of passing joints around sounds crazy to me under the current circumstances lol and nobody over there even thinks covid is real so yeah
I must say this doesn't feel awfully heroic you guys
just the notion of passing joints around sounds crazy to me under the current circumstances lol and nobody over there even thinks covid is real so yeah
By DY_nasty Go To PostThat is just the worst of statistics at work đ
Ok đđź
Many epidemiologists believe measuring excess deaths is the best way to assess the impact of the virus in real time. It shows how the virus is altering normal patterns of mortality. The high numbers from the coronavirus pandemic period undermine arguments that the virus is merely killing vulnerable people who would have died anyway.
The article addresses your other issues as well. Including that some deaths are prevented from people staying at home and some deaths are caused by people avoiding the hospital because of capacity issues. All kinds of variables are considered. Even have pretty graphs.
By Yurtlicious Go To Postgot like three different invites to the same party and I passed
I must say this doesn't feel awfully heroic you guys
just the notion of passing joints around sounds crazy to me under the current circumstances lol and nobody over there even thinks covid is real so yeah
this "sitting at home and sacrificing for the idea of the greater good" is boring as hell
By Fenderputty Go To PostOk đđźagain, is rona the only thing we got going on right?
The article addresses your other issues as well. Including that some deaths are prevented from people staying at home and some deaths are caused by people avoiding the hospital because of capacity issues. All kinds of variables are considered. Even have pretty graphs.
my problem with a lot of these reach articles grabbing broad statistics is that they ignore, dismiss, or gloss over everything else at play. same shit happens in disaster relief all the time and its always a mess
look at how much this hurricane effected the area
well the infrastructure here was kinda bad and there was also the whole economic sit-
look at the devastation
By DY_nasty Go To Postagain, is rona the only thing we got going on right?
You keep saying this like the / these variable werenât considered in the model, when in fact, they even considered that some deaths could occur less as people quarantined at home and avoided car crashes and such.
Did you even read it? Because it feels like you just flippantly went âstats bwahahahahahahahahaâ
By Fenderputty Go To PostYou keep saying this like the / these variable werenât considered in the model, when in fact, they even considered that some deaths could occur less as people quarantined at home and avoided car crashes and such.they ain't considered in the headline or by the people pushing them out to decision makers lol
Did you even read it? Because it feels like you just flippantly went âstats bwahahahahahahahahaâ
yes, lazily throwing around models as a definitive statement in a reductive tone is bad
its one of the biggest problems with disaster relief too and far too often *one* source - with less than the proper context - is what decides funding or public opinion.
By DY_nasty Go To Postthey ain't considered in the headline or by the people pushing them out to decision makers lol
yes, lazily throwing around models as a definitive statement in a reductive tone is bad
its one of the biggest problems with disaster relief too and far too often *one* source - with less than the proper context - is what decides funding or public opinion.
A headline is a headline. Not the meat and potatoes of analysis.
Nobody claims a model is definitive, ever lol
Itâs actually interesting, the graphs line up with timelines well and the methods are backed up by epidemiologists but go off lol
By Fenderputty Go To PostA headline is a headline. Not the meat and potatoes of analysis.And the causes of death these days damn sure ain't limited to just the epidemiologist neck of the woods. Which should be common sense. A death estimate isn't used often in tumultuous situations because its too broad of a stroke.
Nobody claims a model is definitive, ever lol
Itâs actually interesting, the graphs line up with timelines well and the methods are backed up by epidemiologists but go off lol
I feel like I'm the asshole all the time whenever I gotta say hey - again - severe, immediate economic recession means a hell of a lot more than what people are checking for. You're not waiting for a hospital bed when you blow your brains out or get left in a ditch. The services and failsafes that check things like monthly reporting from child welfare, homeless/dv shelters, and food banks haven't worked at capacity since March. Putting a nice bow on a model then rolling with it from just the covid angle at a major outlet is problematic ....and I said this before
my problem with a lot of these reach articles grabbing broad statistics is that they ignore, dismiss, or gloss over everything else at play. same shit happens in disaster relief all the time and its always a mess
when you paint a picture like this and don't even acknowledge what you're leaving out, you're irresponsible. plainly. when a war breaks out, people don't attribute all deaths to fighting. famine deaths isn't purely hunger. natural disasters, etc. the wildest thing about that article is that they wrote it acknowledging that estimated death tolls typically aren't used that way.
publish it anyway tho
By DY_nasty Go To PostAnd the causes of death these days damn sure ain't limited to just the epidemiologist neck of the woods. Which should be common sense. A death estimate isn't used often in tumultuous situations because its too broad of a stroke.
I feel like I'm the asshole all the time whenever I gotta say hey - again - severe, immediate economic recession means a hell of a lot more than what people are checking for. You're not waiting for a hospital bed when you blow your brains out or get left in a ditch. The services and failsafes that check things like monthly reporting from child welfare, homeless/dv shelters, and food banks haven't worked at capacity since March. Putting a nice bow on a model then rolling with it from just the covid angle at a major outlet is problematic âŚ.and I said this before
my problem with a lot of these reach articles grabbing broad statistics is that they ignore, dismiss, or gloss over everything else at play. same shit happens in disaster relief all the time and its always a mess
when you paint a picture like this and don't even acknowledge what you're leaving out, you're irresponsible. plainly. when a war breaks out, people don't attribute all deaths to fighting. famine deaths isn't purely hunger. natural disasters, etc. the wildest thing about that article is that they wrote it acknowledging that estimated death tolls typically aren't used that way.
publish it anyway tho
Breh we have yearly death rates by month etc. we have history to compare to. You keep complaining about missed variable but still havenât taken time to read the variables they considered or maybe didnât. How death counts are often late or how theyâre even later now with Covid etc etc.
Youâre being contrarian about a statistical analysis of excessive death over the historical norm and doing so in spite of expert acceptance of this analysis lol đ
Go smoke a bow or something, man
By Fenderputty Go To PostBreh we have yearly death rates by month etc. we have history to compare to. You keep complaining about missed variable but still havenât taken time to read the variables they considered or maybe didnât. How death counts are often late or how theyâre even later now with Covid etc etc.We don't have a history to compare to missing reporting - which they acknowledge before spinning you an amazing tale of the devastation wrought solely by Coronavirus.
Youâre being contrarian about a statistical analysis of excessive death over the historical norm and doing so in spite of expert acceptance of this analysis lol đ
Go smoke a bow or something, man
You can't say estimated deaths overall is your product, then say its due to Corona. The fuck is that?
Not all of these deaths are necessarily due to coronavirus itself. Some could be due to the strained health care system, fears of seeking treatment or social isolation. But most are probably Covid. (also lol at this entire statement)
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Tracking the Real Coronavirus Death Toll in the United States
You're speaking out of both sides of your mouth like that article is and don't even realize it. Especially with adjusted CDC data when they don't even get numbers promptly when everything is functioning like normal to begin with? And once, you're not acknowledging what I typed. Estimated deaths aren't used in prolonged humanitarian aid/disaster relief scenarios due to how broad/vague they are and its only for initial stages to focus information gathering going forward. When you take a starting point, which is what that is, used to guide correcting reporting efforts and identify information gaps, and present it like a finished product - then publish it - its kiiiiiiiiiinda trash. That's skipping over a whole hell of a lot just to get some sexy numbers out there.
edit: i should just get a blue check mark too if that's all you need to have people ride your dick all day and scrutinize nothing smh
By DY_nasty Go To PostNot all of these deaths are necessarily due to coronavirus itself. Some could be due to the strained health care system, fears of seeking treatment or social isolation. But most are probably Covid. (also lol at this entire statement)
Not all of the deaths are Covid related. Proceeds to list a bunch of Covid related issues lmao. Both sides indeed lol
Theyâre not claiming these are the deaths caused by Covid either, theyâre claiming a relation. Itâs a measure of total impact. A strained hospital due to Covid is an impact this is measuring!
By Fenderputty Go To PostNot all of the deaths are Covid related. Proceeds to list a bunch of Covid related issues lmao. Both sides indeed lolhomie, they're not even taking just the non-finalized cdc numbers - they're adjusting estimates using their own lol. wtf is a nyt database...
Theyâre not claiming these are the deaths caused by Covid either, theyâre claiming a relation. Itâs a measure of total impact. A strained hospital due to Covid is an impact this is measuring!
take one look at the methods/def page of both and you have a clear idea of how substantially different the approach nyt is taking in regard to their data analysis before hitting public. you don't need to be a chef to see that they mixing oatmeal with grits.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
https://github.com/nytimes/covid-19-data - where they actually centralize and distribute their data
i've already explained several times that HA/DR doesn't use these types of datasets except to assess information gaps too but keep walking around that one i guess
When some tries to tie this analysis to something important like aid, ill address it and agree with you.
This ainât that. This is you being contrarian about data analysis that I know Kib was specifically interested in previously and I really donât know why.
This ainât that. This is you being contrarian about data analysis that I know Kib was specifically interested in previously and I really donât know why.
By Fenderputty Go To PostWhen some tries to tie this analysis to something important like aid, ill address it and agree with you.Why do you think it's okay to wait until something fucked up causes damage or miscommunicates essential information to be upset about it? đ
This ainât that. This is you being contrarian about data analysis that I know Kib was specifically interested in previously and I really donât know why.
And if anyone wants data from that it's best they understand that NYT is literally making up their reporting methods as they go, case by case, and adjusting legitimate early analysis with their own special blend then laying out an article like it's a real, actionable resource. It's irresponsible. I said it's the worst part of statistics because it is.
By DY_nasty Go To PostWhy do you think it's okay to wait until something fucked up causes damage or miscommunicates essential information to be upset about it? đ
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This seems like a very tiring and consuming way to walk through life.
By Pac-12 Go To PostMeanwhileâŚI'd buy now if this were a stock, looks like it's about to go parabolic.
Good job, America. We're killing this thing.
By Laboured Go To PostNumbers in Spain were over 2000 of daily new infections.
Germany had like 800, the last time we've had high numbers like that was 5 weeks ago when there was the huge outbreak in a meat factory.
Those summer holidays for alot of people will surely play a rather big part :/
We are now down to zero active cases. It appears most of the new ones we are going to get are probably from people coming in back via repatriation flights or private charters. Our borders are supposed to open back up September 1st. A bit worried about allowing people back in.
My buddy trying to get me to come âmeet the hoesâ at the hookah lounge
Why is the hookah lounge open??? đđđ
Why is the hookah lounge open??? đđđ
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29531742/entire-michigan-state-football-team-quarantine
College sports are so fucking not happening
Michigan State's entire football team will quarantine or self-isolate for 14 days after a second staff member and one athlete tested positive for COVID-19, the school announced Friday.
College sports are so fucking not happening