It didn't even end that happily. The shot of the Resistance fleet coming together as one and celebrating while Leia and Rey hug it out showed that this victory is a bittersweet one.
By n8 Go To PostIt didn't even end that happily. The shot of the Resistance fleet coming together as one and celebrating while Leia and Rey hug it out showed that this victory is a bittersweet one.
I don't know why anyone is celebrating, billions, if not trillions, of people just died.
By Shanks D Kowak Go To PostI don't know why anyone is celebrating, billions, if not trillions, of people just died.
Not a new problem in the Star Wars universe though, is it?
Not to mention that they've potentially stopped trillions more from dying.
When the Second World War ended - or when news circulated of Germany's surrender anyway - , people certainly celebrated.
By Shanks D Kowak Go To PostI don't know why anyone is celebrating, billions, if not trillions, of people just died.I think it's important to keep in mind the scale of the Star Wars universe - and the fact that the destruction of entire planets isn't unprecedented.
The New Republic and the Resistance also seem to be somewhat prepared for the possibility of planetary destruction. I can't imagine the choice to rotate the capital of the Republic is simply about egalitarianism - I'm guessing it's also a strategic choice that keeps the Republic's governmental functions nimble and relocatable in case of a large-scale attack.
I agree that it should have been given more gravitas, but I think there's still a somewhat decent explanation for why they weren't as upset about it as one might expect.
By n8 Go To PostNot a new problem in the Star Wars universe though, is it?
Not to mention that they've potentially stopped trillions more from dying.
When the Second World War ended - or when news circulated of Germany's surrender anyway - , people certainly celebrated.
you are right on that.
But your analogy is wrong, it would be more like if London and New York were nuked and then WW2 ended the next day. I don't know if anyone would be celebrating, at least I would be still in shock.
By BertramCooper Go To PostI think it's important to keep in mind the scale of the Star Wars universe - and the fact that the destruction of entire planets isn't unprecedented.
The New Republic and the Resistance also seem to be somewhat prepared for the possibility of planetary destruction. I can't imagine the choice to rotate the capital of the Republic is simply about egalitarianism - I'm guessing it's also a strategic choice that keeps the Republic's governmental functions nimble and relocatable in case of a large-scale attack.
I agree that it should have been given more gravitas, but I think there's still a somewhat decent explanation for why they weren't as upset about it as one might expect.
I think they rotated the capital just to remove any EU/prequel stuff. Will be interesting to see if they mention or show Coruscant in any of the other films.
Not sure how they would have planned for the destruction of a planet, especially as they seemed oblivious to a giant planet that was converted into a weapon.
By Shanks D Kowak Go To Postyou are right on that.
But your analogy is wrong, it would be more like if London and New York were nuked and then WW2 ended the next day. I don't know if anyone would be celebrating, at least I would be still in shock.
But celebrating that there was an end to this bloodshed.
Plus, you know... its high fantasy. I don't want to see kitchen sink depression and people slipping into alcoholism. Give me my celebration scenes. Give me Leia slipping medals round everyone's necks despite her planet getting blown up.
By Shanks D Kowak Go To PostNot sure how they would have planned for the destruction of a planet, especially as they seemed oblivious to a giant planet that was converted into a weapon.I think the Republic can be both be aware of the general threat of planetary destruction AND shitty at identifying and/or acknowledging specific threats.
By n8 Go To PostBut celebrating that there was an end to this bloodshed.
Plus, you know... its high fantasy. I don't want to see kitchen sink depression and people slipping into alcoholism. Give me my celebration scenes. Give me Leia slipping medals round everyone's necks despite her planet getting blown up.
As long as your not a walking carpet.
By Shanks D Kowak Go To PostI don't know why anyone is celebrating, billions, if not trillions, of people just died.
Now see, this is the complaint I don't understand. People often celebrate the end of any military conflict, even if it's bittersweet. The main thing i disliked about the end of the movie is that the power balance of the conflict is still really unclear and weird? In a New Hope it made sense, because the Empire was the overwhemingly large sole controlling power and the destruction of the Death Star was a major blow against the Empire's ability to exert it's control over rebel planets. If there were 'rebel planets' they were either remote rural/uncivilized planets or civilized planets like Alderaan whose leadership had been covertly aiding those fringe elements. I guess, the Republic has lost its leadership structure with the destruction of those planets? What is the relationship between the New Republic and the Resistance? Why is a Resistance squadron of like 20 fighters taking on the Starkiller alone when the Republic is getting destroyed? Does the Republic have no army? wtf
I would have also liked Abrams to give us a proper teaser about the fate of Kylo Ren and his master or the state of the Order in general.
Excellent film from start to finish, I don't remember a moment that was boring tbh. I had a feeling it would be Rey that uses the force rather than Finn.
By BertramCooper Go To PostI hesitate to read too much into that vision in terms of what it means for Rey's lineage. Luke took possession of the exact same lightsaber, previously his father's, when he was young, and didn't appear to have any sort of vision when he first touched it.i gave you guys the book with all the commandments on page 2 and only rossonero is woke so far
So potentially I think it has more to do with what was done to Rey and her memories than it has to do with any sort of familial link to its previous owners.
Is it wrong that I want them to pull some BS out of their ass and bring TR-8R back to life as finn's rival instead of phasma.
They kinda dropped the ball super hard on her, how is a random ass stormtrooper going to be more interesting than your silver plated one.
Guess she really was just there to sell toys :/
They kinda dropped the ball super hard on her, how is a random ass stormtrooper going to be more interesting than your silver plated one.
Guess she really was just there to sell toys :/
By Esch Go To PostNow see, this is the complaint I don't understand. People often celebrate the end of any military conflict, even if it's bittersweet. The main thing i disliked about the end of the movie is that the power balance of the conflict is still really unclear and weird? In a New Hope it made sense, because the Empire was the overwhemingly large sole controlling power and the destruction of the Death Star was a major blow against the Empire's ability to exert it's control over rebel planets. If there were 'rebel planets' they were either remote rural/uncivilized planets or civilized planets like Alderaan whose leadership had been covertly aiding those fringe elements. I guess, the Republic has lost its leadership structure with the destruction of those planets? What is the relationship between the New Republic and the Resistance? Why is a Resistance squadron of like 20 fighters taking on the Starkiller alone when the Republic is getting destroyed? Does the Republic have no army? wtf
I would have also liked Abrams to give us a proper teaser about the fate of Kylo Ren and his master or the state of the Order in general.
They mentioned a republic fleet, but I guess with the capital destroyed who knows what type of organisation they had.
As for your last part, I think it is the same as the end of ANH. You know the man vilian is in peril, the evil organisation has been dealt a huge blow, and the fact that the big evil boss man is ok somewhere else that there must still be a whole lot of shit that they control.
Chewie ;_;
But man I'm still just amazed by the chemistry on screen. Everyone was just so awesome together.
Who wouldn't want to watch Han, Finn, Rey, Chewie, and BB8 get their Space Dandy on?
But man I'm still just amazed by the chemistry on screen. Everyone was just so awesome together.
Who wouldn't want to watch Han, Finn, Rey, Chewie, and BB8 get their Space Dandy on?
By Gabyskra Go To PostAgreed. But there's also something else. It also sticks to rules that did not need to be there, especially today. They thought they needed the hero to win to some extent in the end, so they needed to have Rey beat Kylo. But that is incredibly outdated. People watch tv shows today where episodes end on tragic notes all the time, with zero hint of an optimistic perspective. There was no need to give Rey a power boost that devalues your main villain. You don't need Jon Snow to always be on top.that's what the 2nd (8th) movie is for.
An overall decent movie and return to form.
Bad tings:
- I'm very wary quite how clinical they were in pin-pointing the nostalgia pressure spots.
- It was full of necessary handing-over-of-the-guard type moments but I also felt that the stuff that had happened in the intervening 30 years was barely touched on (especially Luke and his Jedi school, how the First Order developed and why the Resistance haven't capitalised on its victories, although I'm sure that'll be touched on next time), even though they are the events that initially caused all the things that were happening in this movie. Instead the movie keeps very much in the here-and-now to allow for its constant tempo. I actually think this is something that Star Trek Into Darkness suffered from too, especially in the second half.
- The obvious one being that it was A New Hope. Not worth expanding on this as it's obvious and has probably been discussed to death here. One thing I will major on is that there's another fucking Death Star, and then they joke about how there's another Death Star, and then they proceed to defeat it in a very similar way to the other movies. There's no pay off on that. It's extraordinarily lazy. I do think they need to find something else to build in a sense of threat/urgency and it's something the EU books (God help them) struggled with in looking for something new and more menacing than a Death Star each story.
- I really wanted more Luke. The geek in me wanted him to come in and deus ex machina the fuck out of something.
Good tings:
- I liked all the characters and their chemistry. Gleeson and Driver weren't working for me until later in the movie. Kylo Ren did have the feeling of starting out being menacing and then less so as the movie went on, but then I feel that's on purpose in order to differentiate him from Vader and bring his character, his youthfulness and his doubt into focus. That said he's kind of like Chistensen's young Vader but better acted and less annoying.
- I liked Rey as a main hero character. Maybe marginally too adept at everything without much build up though. Even Luke started out a bit shit at everything.
- I thought the major lightsaber battle was decent enough. Exciting without exaggerating the abilities of the two involved.
- The general setting and keeping the visual language in line with the originals. Everything from colour use, CGI use, practical effect use, the world, the technology in that world etc. made it feel visually very consistent with the original movies.
Bad tings:
- I'm very wary quite how clinical they were in pin-pointing the nostalgia pressure spots.
- It was full of necessary handing-over-of-the-guard type moments but I also felt that the stuff that had happened in the intervening 30 years was barely touched on (especially Luke and his Jedi school, how the First Order developed and why the Resistance haven't capitalised on its victories, although I'm sure that'll be touched on next time), even though they are the events that initially caused all the things that were happening in this movie. Instead the movie keeps very much in the here-and-now to allow for its constant tempo. I actually think this is something that Star Trek Into Darkness suffered from too, especially in the second half.
- The obvious one being that it was A New Hope. Not worth expanding on this as it's obvious and has probably been discussed to death here. One thing I will major on is that there's another fucking Death Star, and then they joke about how there's another Death Star, and then they proceed to defeat it in a very similar way to the other movies. There's no pay off on that. It's extraordinarily lazy. I do think they need to find something else to build in a sense of threat/urgency and it's something the EU books (God help them) struggled with in looking for something new and more menacing than a Death Star each story.
- I really wanted more Luke. The geek in me wanted him to come in and deus ex machina the fuck out of something.
Good tings:
- I liked all the characters and their chemistry. Gleeson and Driver weren't working for me until later in the movie. Kylo Ren did have the feeling of starting out being menacing and then less so as the movie went on, but then I feel that's on purpose in order to differentiate him from Vader and bring his character, his youthfulness and his doubt into focus. That said he's kind of like Chistensen's young Vader but better acted and less annoying.
- I liked Rey as a main hero character. Maybe marginally too adept at everything without much build up though. Even Luke started out a bit shit at everything.
- I thought the major lightsaber battle was decent enough. Exciting without exaggerating the abilities of the two involved.
- The general setting and keeping the visual language in line with the originals. Everything from colour use, CGI use, practical effect use, the world, the technology in that world etc. made it feel visually very consistent with the original movies.
By Laboured Go To PostAn overall decent movie and return to form.
Bad tings:
- I'm very wary quite how clinical they were in pin-pointing the nostalgia pressure spots.
- It was full of necessary handing-over-of-the-guard type moments but I also felt that the stuff that had happened in the intervening 30 years was barely touched on (especially Luke and his Jedi school, how the First Order developed and why the Resistance haven't capitalised on its victories, although I'm sure that'll be touched on next time), even though they are the events that initially caused all the things that were happening in this movie. Instead the movie keeps very much in the here-and-now to allow for its constant tempo. I actually think this is something that Star Trek Into Darkness suffered from too, especially in the second half.
- The obvious one being that it was A New Hope. Not worth expanding on this as it's obvious and has probably been discussed to death here. One thing I will major on is that there's another fucking Death Star, and then they joke about how there's another Death Star, and then they proceed to defeat it in a very similar way to the other movies. There's no pay off on that. It's extraordinarily lazy. I do think they need to find something else to build in a sense of threat/urgency and it's something the EU books (God help them) struggled with in looking for something new and more menacing than a Death Star each story.
- I really wanted more Luke. The geek in me wanted him to come in and deus ex machina the fuck out of something.
Good tings:
- I liked all the characters and their chemistry. Gleeson and Driver weren't working for me until later in the movie. Kylo Ren did have the feeling of starting out being menacing and then less so as the movie went on, but then I feel that's on purpose in order to differentiate him from Vader and bring his character, his youthfulness and his doubt into focus. That said he's kind of like Chistensen's young Vader but better acted and less annoying.
- I liked Rey as a main hero character. Maybe marginally too adept at everything without much build up though. Even Luke started out a bit shit at everything.
- I thought the major lightsaber battle was decent enough. Exciting without exaggerating the abilities of the two involved.
- The general setting and keeping the visual language in line with the originals. Everything from colour use, CGI use, practical effect use, the world, the technology in that world etc. made it feel visually very consistent with the original movies.
Agree with almost all of this.
Especially the Death Star. It's so fucking boring at this point. It is so disappointing they didn't attempt to create something even slightly fresh.
I hoping all the fresh stuff and Kylo Ren becoming a true menace happens in the second film. Finn probably has the most wide open character arc. They could do a lot with him.
By Gabyskra Go To PostGraham Norton is so easily the best talk show everI usually don't care for talk shows but I love The Graham Norton Show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTaJakmGEwk
I saw it again and loved it even more. Thought the characters and acting shone even more, especially Driver. Just don't find the fact it borrows so liberally from ANH much of a criticism. The fact they make another Death Star (but bigger and more powerful); isn't that how we make cars, and phones, and computers, and almost fucking everything? Don't dictators and warlords look to the same shit that worked before - oppression tactics and bigger guns? It just doesn't really fly with me that there's reason enough to chastise very basic villains for being unoriginal when our decidedly more complex human counterparts are guilty of the same thing.
Love it. Great fucking fun. A proper Star Wars film.
Love it. Great fucking fun. A proper Star Wars film.
I think the problem I have with Kylo Ren comes back to the idea that these movies are for children. The force interrogation scene, killing the villagers, blowing up all those planets... none of it was impactful. His presence never evoked feelings of fear or dread, yet he was in part responsible for deaths of what was probably billions of people. I would describe him as pathetic, but in the modern sense.
I think Han Solo's death was weakened by this as well, although maybe more because of how early you could see it coming.
I think Han Solo's death was weakened by this as well, although maybe more because of how early you could see it coming.
I didn't like Kylo at first, but dude gut punching himself while handing out that work was gully as fuck.
... I will say at least they got some Asians up in here. The OT was white-washed like crazy.
... Hispanics still screwed doe.
... Hispanics still screwed doe.
By Adam Blade Go To Post... I will say at least they got some Asians up in here. The OT was white-washed like crazy.the pilot is hispanic
... Hispanics still screwed doe.
i kinda laughed when the kid next to me about the midget alien though "she's clearly korean"
By DY_nasty Go To Postthe pilot is hispanic
i kinda laughed when the kid next to me about the midget alien though "she's clearly korean"
My bad. Forgot about him.
LOL, Korean? Just like how the Trade Federation were Japanese in the PT...
speaking of the pilot....
that one continuous shot was dope, but wtf
everyone else is out there playing by the rules but he's iike naw we ace combat now - 80 kills or bust
that one continuous shot was dope, but wtf
everyone else is out there playing by the rules but he's iike naw we ace combat now - 80 kills or bust
By Bungie Go To PostI think the problem I have with Kylo Ren comes back to the idea that these movies are for children. The force interrogation scene, killing the villagers, blowing up all those planets... none of it was impactful. His presence never evoked feelings of fear or dread, yet he was in part responsible for deaths of what was probably billions of people. I would describe him as pathetic, but in the modern sense.
I think Han Solo's death was weakened by this as well, although maybe more because of how early you could see it coming.
Makes it all the more tragic, brah. Hitting dat Romeo and Juliet market.
Not to say that the problems there were didn't stand out more this time.
Maz just disappears
Phasma just disappears
Snoke is still a bit Hobbit CGI
Pacing is almost too relentless; Rathtar scene could be lost for some more character shit and time to breathe before the Takodana/Starkiller finale
Film needed another 10-15 minutes to clear up a few things. But it was still delightfully good fun.
Maz just disappears
Phasma just disappears
Snoke is still a bit Hobbit CGI
Pacing is almost too relentless; Rathtar scene could be lost for some more character shit and time to breathe before the Takodana/Starkiller finale
Film needed another 10-15 minutes to clear up a few things. But it was still delightfully good fun.
one of the problems of the movie is that it was basically "She's All That" and not enough "Never Been Kissed"
also can anyone seriously say that the opening stuff looked low budget as hell with how they tried their hand at practical shots
also can anyone seriously say that the opening stuff looked low budget as hell with how they tried their hand at practical shots
I thought it was supremely fun and exactly the type of movie it needed to be. In fact, despite some minor flaws and unanswered questions, it was the perfect way to begin a new trilogy for one simple reason:
People lost all hope after the prequels that someone would be able to replicate the magic and fun from the original movies. The fact that it made you feel like watching ANH is exactly what it needed to do in order to prove that there can be another good Star Wars movie again. JJ Abrams did just that. Don't tell me no one here isn't hyped for Eisode VIII? So in that sense, this movie was A New Hope for this trilogy in a metaphorical sense as well.
Where this trilogy will have the freedom to differentiate and set its own tone for the franchise will be in Episode VIII and IX. Just looking at the directors for the next two episodes is evidence enough.
Btw, wonderfully casted and acted. Really hit it out of the park with that one.
People lost all hope after the prequels that someone would be able to replicate the magic and fun from the original movies. The fact that it made you feel like watching ANH is exactly what it needed to do in order to prove that there can be another good Star Wars movie again. JJ Abrams did just that. Don't tell me no one here isn't hyped for Eisode VIII? So in that sense, this movie was A New Hope for this trilogy in a metaphorical sense as well.
Where this trilogy will have the freedom to differentiate and set its own tone for the franchise will be in Episode VIII and IX. Just looking at the directors for the next two episodes is evidence enough.
Btw, wonderfully casted and acted. Really hit it out of the park with that one.
only castings that straight up sucked were the resistance pilots
"we're gettin rekt :|"
"we just lost that guy with the face -_-"
"one's on my 6, i need cover (>o_o)>"
"we're gettin rekt :|"
"we just lost that guy with the face -_-"
"one's on my 6, i need cover (>o_o)>"
I didn't like Maz much, she looked and acted a lot like she belonged in the prequels.
Snoke was so obviously Serkis. You could tell by the screwed Gollumesque expression.
Snoke was so obviously Serkis. You could tell by the screwed Gollumesque expression.
I've rewatched half of episode 1 yesterday. They used such racist accents to do the aliens, kinda fascinating.
By Gabyskra Go To PostI've rewatched half of episode 1 yesterday. They used such racist accents to do the aliens, kinda fascinating.
Watto is fucking hilarious to me. Can you imagine the first time Lucas showed Spielberg this fucking grossly stereotypical Jewish alien?
By n8 Go To PostWatto is fucking hilarious to me. Can you imagine the first time Lucas showed Spielberg this fucking grossly stereotypical Jewish alien?I know! And Jar Jar sounds like the most ridiculous portrayal of African colonies... and the federation sounding like dumb evil japanese warlords... The whole thing made me feel dumb and prejudiced.
By JBird20022 Go To PostIs it wrong that I want them to pull some BS out of their ass and bring TR-8R back to life as finn's rival instead of phasma. They kinda dropped the ball super hard on her, how is a random ass stormtrooper going to be more interesting than your silver plated one.I don't understand how they couldn't find one single good thing for that character to do. Couldn't she have been the one with the space spear who fights Finn? I remember the description of the character was that she was hunting Finn, something she never does and the movie has no interest in. VERY PECULIAR.
Guess she really was just there to sell toys :/
Also, it seems clear that there's a scene missing near the start between "Bring me your blaster" and Finn deserting.
By Das Go To PostAlso, it seems clear that there's a scene missing near the start between "Bring me your blaster" and Finn deserting.
I think there's no question this is the case. It would have served a strong narrative purpose for Finn, and also make Phasma feel more involved. When she ordered Finn to her division, I thought there would be a scene where she personally tortures/recalibrates/indoctrinate him. This further solidifies how "legit shook" he is by the First Order, while also giving Finn his own villain/rival. That, coupled with making Phasma the trooper he fights with the lightsaber, would have given depth to both characters, which would've been felt with greater payoff in the trash compactor scene.
Really simple stuff and nothing changes with the actual story aside from making two characters more interesting (one infinitely so). Because it's obvious Phasma is supposed to be Finn's foil: the embodiment of his fear of the first order. But uh, it doesn't come across at all throughout the film.
By n8 Go To PostJust don't find the fact it borrows so liberally from ANH much of a criticism. The fact they make another Death Star (but bigger and more powerful); isn't that how we make cars, and phones, and computers, and almost fucking everything? Don't dictators and warlords look to the same shit that worked before - oppression tactics and bigger guns? It just doesn't really fly with me that there's reason enough to chastise very basic villains for being unoriginal when our decidedly more complex human counterparts are guilty of the same thing.Did the first two Death Stars work, though? The first demolished exactly one planet before Luke turn it into a cloud of metal dust. The second blasted a couple of Rebel capital ships before it suffered the same fate from a different pilot; they didn't even manage to complete it first.
But ultimately this shit is irrelevant, because I find this entire exercise of offering apologetics for the film's recapitulations unhelpful. Treating it like it's an actual thing in the universe and offering explanations is only interesting to someone who accepts that existence in the first place.
We're dealing with fiction here, where repeating the same story over and over and over again in an artless way is lazy and boring.
By flabber Go To PostDid the first two Death Stars work, though? The first demolished exactly one planet before Luke turn it into a cloud of metal dust. The second blasted a couple of Rebel capital ships before it suffered the same fate from a different pilot; they didn't even manage to complete it first.
But ultimately this shit is irrelevant, because I find this entire exercise of offering apologetics for the film's recapitulations unhelpful. Treating it like it's an actual thing in the universe and offering explanations is only interesting to someone who accepts that existence in the first place.
We're dealing with fiction here, where repeating the same story over and over and over again in an artless way is lazy and boring.
i love how the film even acknowledges the fact that the first two Death Stars were destroyed with Han's anything can be blown up line.
And then the new one took out the new Senate and a few other planets. Even more successful. Justified. Incredible. JJ redeemed.
In episode IX, they should just transform planets into missiles and fire them into other planets.
Then the Resistance will be forced to blow up the missile-planets themselves to prevent the collisions.
And no one will even feel the disturbance in the force because they'll be too preoccupied celebrating.
Pay me millions.
Then the Resistance will be forced to blow up the missile-planets themselves to prevent the collisions.
And no one will even feel the disturbance in the force because they'll be too preoccupied celebrating.
Pay me millions.
I want to say that it boggles my mind that so many people say that this feels like the original trilogy films.
I have no idea what people are talking about.
ANH, especially, and ESB are space operas. They are meant to be camp and cheesy, you are not expecting mind blowing acting, not that we get that in TFA, or award winning dialogue. They are meant to be fun movies that make you say wow. They are over the top, silly, and have great stories and characters that you want to root for and against
TFA feels too serious, just like ROTJ, and unoriginal.
TFA barely has an original idea and that goes against the first two films. I don't think there was a single moment when I first watched them that didn't make me say wow and just blew me away with what a movie could look like and that was nearly 20 years after ANH's releases.
I never felt WOW watching this film, nothing blew me away to the point I had never seen it before, which I think is part of the magic.
I feel like people are confusing the fact that it 'looks' like a continuation of the original films as containing the same spirit as the them.
One of my favourite new characters was Hux, because he felt a bit over the top and a bit dramatic, which is how most of the characters from the OT were.
I still really did enjoy this film.
And of course, at the end of the day all this shit is subjective and what I think the spirit of the OT is and another person does is entirely different.
Plus I do enjoy ATOC.
RIP Kit Fisto
I have no idea what people are talking about.
ANH, especially, and ESB are space operas. They are meant to be camp and cheesy, you are not expecting mind blowing acting, not that we get that in TFA, or award winning dialogue. They are meant to be fun movies that make you say wow. They are over the top, silly, and have great stories and characters that you want to root for and against
TFA feels too serious, just like ROTJ, and unoriginal.
TFA barely has an original idea and that goes against the first two films. I don't think there was a single moment when I first watched them that didn't make me say wow and just blew me away with what a movie could look like and that was nearly 20 years after ANH's releases.
I never felt WOW watching this film, nothing blew me away to the point I had never seen it before, which I think is part of the magic.
I feel like people are confusing the fact that it 'looks' like a continuation of the original films as containing the same spirit as the them.
One of my favourite new characters was Hux, because he felt a bit over the top and a bit dramatic, which is how most of the characters from the OT were.
I still really did enjoy this film.
And of course, at the end of the day all this shit is subjective and what I think the spirit of the OT is and another person does is entirely different.
Plus I do enjoy ATOC.
RIP Kit Fisto
By n8 Go To PostNothing made you go wow because it isn't 1977 and you arent 6 anymore.
weak.
You telling me they couldn't improve on any design? Or have an original thought?
By Shanks D Kowak Go To Postweak.
You telling me they couldn't improve on any design? Or have an original thought?
Black x wing. Cooler stormtrooper costume. Better red lightsaber. Stormtrooper protagonist.
Star Wars was a pastiche of Flash Gordon in the first place. But its almost 40 years later. I'm not surprised you're not surprised.
By n8 Go To PostBlack x wing. Cooler stormtrooper costume. Better red lightsaber. Stormtrooper protagonist.
Star Wars was a pastiche of Flash Gordon in the first place. But its almost 40 years later. I'm not surprised you're not surprised.
Thank you for telling me something that I alluded to in my previous post.
Yes, it imitated the style and drew inspiration from it, which there is nothing wrong with. ANH might not be the most original of ideas, borrowing from many different ideas, but it did it in a way that had never been done before.
Say what you want about the prequels, but at least they tried to be their own beasts. TFA is just ANH x2015, not just a homage, but an outright copy.
wow lets change some colours up.
Stormtrooper protagonist? Don't really see that. Finn, might have started off as a stormtrooper, but that did not define him.