I made a bet that wins me £3K if Arsenal finish above Spurs, and I'm going to use that money on a gaming PC and give up on football and only play hentai steam games.
I suppose what I'm saying is that I'm ready to be one of you #TrueGamers
I suppose what I'm saying is that I'm ready to be one of you #TrueGamers
By Laboured Go To PostWelcome brother. Truly the correct life choice.Thank you, but how will I reconcile hating minorities (just the melanin-rich ones), with myself being a deeper-hued minority.
Zabo, please, this is a thread for gamers. Please limit all conversation to white genocide, drawn boobies, and RGB keyboards
By Zabojnik Go To PostDamn.
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By Smokey Go To PostLook at that amazing boost clock. Wow.
The faithful can still hold out hope for another increase like this and get that boost close to 5 GHz.
Faithful is not the word I’d choose to describe them. Said it awhile ago, but if AMD could match or exceed Intel’s single threaded performance with the 3000 series then they’d be shouting about it from the rooftops already.
This anti AIO movement is kind of weird tbh.
With ANYTHING involving liquid, there's a *chance it could leak. And I think most people know that high end air coolers provide similar or slightly better results for a little cheaper it just comes down to you wanting a huge piece of metal plopped on your system or not.
With ANYTHING involving liquid, there's a *chance it could leak. And I think most people know that high end air coolers provide similar or slightly better results for a little cheaper it just comes down to you wanting a huge piece of metal plopped on your system or not.
AIO's have their place for sure. Would be nice if they could differentiate themselves without that Asetek patent.
Yeah, like the Linus video mentioned, if you move your PC a lot or are just in general worried about motherboard flexing, an AIO is a better solution than a giant air-cooler.
Thinking about undervolting my 2080 Ti to get better temps and less noise.
Currently, my fans run pretty high and noisy to keep to at the upper 60s low 70s C to maintain 2055-2070 boost clocks.
Thoughts, y'all?
Currently, my fans run pretty high and noisy to keep to at the upper 60s low 70s C to maintain 2055-2070 boost clocks.
Thoughts, y'all?
By Adam Go To PostThinking about undervolting my 2080 Ti to get better temps and less noise.Yeah, sure. Why not? Use Afterburner to help you with the undervolting and fan curve. You might want to mess with the fan curve first to make sure it is your GPU making all the noise and not something else.
Currently, my fans run pretty high and noisy to keep to at the upper 60s low 70s C to maintain 2055-2070 boost clocks.
Thoughts, y'all?
By Adam Go To PostThinking about undervolting my 2080 Ti to get better temps and less noise.Got nothing to lose by trying it
Currently, my fans run pretty high and noisy to keep to at the upper 60s low 70s C to maintain 2055-2070 boost clocks.
Thoughts, y'all?
I think Ive reached a point in my work load at home to warrant some kind of render farm,
I usually render something in the background while I work on other shots/projects but resources take a bit hit and slows down my workflow.
where do I begin...
I usually render something in the background while I work on other shots/projects but resources take a bit hit and slows down my workflow.
where do I begin...
Does your renderer use only CPU or does it work faster with a GPU? Because if you want something small and out of the way that you can just send jobs to, an Intel NUC could be a good idea. They also have some versions that are much larger but come equipped with a GPU. Price is a bit high for the performance since they can't fit top-of-the-line parts in such tiny tiny cases, but I've had pretty good experience with mine (other than not being able to encode a 720p stream at 60 fps in real-time). You can even get a larger case that is passively cooled from Akasa if you want to have it next to you for KVM or ethernet switch reasons and don't want to hear the fans when you are rendering.
If you are ok with something taking up a minimum of five times more space, you can go with a standard mini build like Vapes and get better performance due to access to higher TDP parts.
If you are ok with something taking up a minimum of five times more space, you can go with a standard mini build like Vapes and get better performance due to access to higher TDP parts.
After making that post, I decided to put my NUC through it's paces again to check on it. I need to see if something weird is set in the bios because the CPU frequency falls to 2.6-2.7 GHz after a half hour of 100% workload. Temperatures max out at 70 C. I'm using the 8650U and I can't find what the max all-cores frequency should be. The Turbo is 4.2, but that is single threaded only (and works as expected). The base frequency is 1.9 and I am well above that.
I wonder if maybe this stress test is just requiring more power than the 15 W TDP can handle? I am using the "stress" package on Linux to run this, btw. I ran the monitoring commands under "sudo" as well since I was told things can become unresponsive if I don't and the CPU usage gets maxed out?
Stress test:
CPU clock monitor:
CPU temp monitor:
I wonder if maybe this stress test is just requiring more power than the 15 W TDP can handle? I am using the "stress" package on Linux to run this, btw. I ran the monitoring commands under "sudo" as well since I was told things can become unresponsive if I don't and the CPU usage gets maxed out?
Stress test:
sudo stress --cpu 8 -v --timeout 1800
CPU clock monitor:
sudo watch -n1 "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "MHz""
CPU temp monitor:
sudo watch -n1 "sensors"
Does it actually take 30 minutes for it to settle to that frequency or more like a minute? If your temps are fine then you are likely running in to the PL1 frequency limit.
The all-core turbo for that CPU is 3.9 GHz, Intel no longer lists per-core turbos but you can usually find them on wikichip https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/core_i7/i7-8650u
The all-core turbo for that CPU is 3.9 GHz, Intel no longer lists per-core turbos but you can usually find them on wikichip https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/core_i7/i7-8650u
By diehard Go To PostDoes it actually take 30 minutes for it to settle to that frequency or more like a minute? If your temps are fine then you are likely running in to the PL1 frequency limit.After a minute, it settles at 3.2. It took about 10-15 minutes to get to 2.7. Thanks for that link!
The all-core turbo for that CPU is 3.9 GHz, Intel no longer lists per-core turbos but you can usually find them on wikichip https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/core_i7/i7-8650u
I assume the temps being steady between 68-70 C is fine?
e: i wonder if maybe the tool i'm using to monitor CPU core speeds isn't the best for doing it? i noticed that when i ran the stress test on a single core, i saw all cores go up to 4.2 GHz but only a single core's temperature increased...
Ahh, I found a review that contains the slightly lower clocked version of my CPU (8550U) and they included this graph:
Judging by that, it looks like my clocks are right in line with what they are supposed to be at PL1.
Judging by that, it looks like my clocks are right in line with what they are supposed to be at PL1.
By Kibner Go To PostDoes your renderer use only CPU or does it work faster with a GPU? Because if you want something small and out of the way that you can just send jobs to, an Intel NUC could be a good idea. They also have some versions that are much larger but come equipped with a GPU. Price is a bit high for the performance since they can't fit top-of-the-line parts in such tiny tiny cases, but I've had pretty good experience with mine (other than not being able to encode a 720p stream at 60 fps in real-time). You can even get a larger case that is passively cooled from Akasa if you want to have it next to you for KVM or ethernet switch reasons and don't want to hear the fans when you are rendering.
If you are ok with something taking up a minimum of five times more space, you can go with a standard mini build like Vapes and get better performance due to access to higher TDP parts.
How big do NUCs tend to be? The recent NUC with the Vega GPU is about 1.2l in volume. Something like an InWin Chopin is around 3.3l in volume.
Though going that route would limit him fair bit. No official GPU support, and going north of a 65w CPU is dicey to say the least. Would house a 35w TDP i7 nicely though, and can be modded with a custom PSU and low profile GPU (like a 1050Ti) but at that point, the price and convenience likely falls in favour of a NUC.
By HottestVapes Go To PostHow big do NUCs tend to be? The recent NUC with the Vega GPU is about 1.2l in volume. Something like an InWin Chopin is around 3.3l in volume.The stock NUC case is two closed, trifold wallets stacked on top of each other. This is for the one without a GPU.
Though going that route would limit you him fair bit. No official GPU support, and going north of a 65w CPU is dicey to say the least. Would house a 35w TDP i7 nicely though, and can be modded with a custom PSU and low profile GPU (like a 1050Ti) but at that point the price and convenience likely falls in favour of a NUC.
e: I can't find a volume spec of the cases
e2: and, yeah, it would limit him quite a bit. especially since the chips are soldered to the mobo so you have to buy a new unit to upgrade the cpu (though you can likely reuse the ram and ssd). it's only really useful if you want something tiny/easily portable and has high-end ultra-portable power
By Kibner Go To PostThe stock NUC case is two closed, trifold wallets stacked on top of each other. This is for the one without a GPU.
e: I can't find a volume spec of the cases
e2: and, yeah, it would limit him quite a bit. especially since the chips are soldered to the mobo so you have to buy a new unit to upgrade the cpu (though you can likely reuse the ram and ssd). it's only really useful if you want something tiny/easily portable and has high-end ultra-portable power
Under a litre in any case, so it’s some super small kit. Really anything under 6-7 litres in volume becomes very limiting, be it a NUC or just a small mITX case. Sacrifices get made.
I should really look into NUCs more, only info I have on them is the Hades Canyon one. The rest fly under my radar and outside my use cases. Though with my limited knowledge, I’d say a NUC like yours could be a better buy, if only for ease of the build and the minuscule space it would take up.
By HottestVapes Go To PostUnder a litre in any case, so it’s some super small kit. Really anything under 6-7 litres in volume becomes very limiting, be it a NUC or just a small mITX case. Sacrifices get made.My NUC is sitting in this case: http://www.akasa.com.tw/update.php?tpl=product/product.detail.tpl&no=181&type=Fanless%20Chassis&type_sub=Fanless%20NUC&model=A-NUC39-A1B
I should really look into NUCs more, only info I have on them is the Hades Canyon one. The rest fly under my radar and outside my use cases. Though with my limited knowledge, I’d say a NUC like yours could be a better buy, if only for ease of the build and the minuscule space it would take up.
So, it's a bit larger than the stock NUC (I think close to four times larger?) but it is also passively cooled and still itty bitty and able to be rackmounted. It's a good solution, imo, for an office PC. Don't need to worry about anything getting clogged or fans breaking down. Can be mounted just about anywhere and not take up much space.
Here are some pics of the circuit board to give you an idea of the size of the NUC without the GPU. Keep in mind that the stock case is just big enough to form a solid enclosure. Not much empty air room at all.
e: spec sheet: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/boards-kits/nuc/boards/nuc7i7dnbe.html
e: spec sheet: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/boards-kits/nuc/boards/nuc7i7dnbe.html
we use Optiplex 3060/5060/7060 Micro's in conference rooms here, they are bit bigger than the NUC's but use the 35w T series CPU's.
https://www.techpowerup.com/255409/thermaltake-announce-level-20-rgb-battlestation-gaming-desk-for-an-extraordinary-usd-1-199
smokey how can you afford not to buy this
https://www.techpowerup.com/255409/thermaltake-announce-level-20-rgb-battlestation-gaming-desk-for-an-extraordinary-usd-1-199
smokey how can you afford not to buy this
That reminds me that I still haven't found the perfect gaming desk for me. Minus the RGB, that desk looks closest to the ones that I've seen that have appealed to me.
By Kibner Go To PostDoes your renderer use only CPU or does it work faster with a GPU? Because if you want something small and out of the way that you can just send jobs to, an Intel NUC could be a good idea. They also have some versions that are much larger but come equipped with a GPU. Price is a bit high for the performance since they can't fit top-of-the-line parts in such tiny tiny cases, but I've had pretty good experience with mine (other than not being able to encode a 720p stream at 60 fps in real-time). You can even get a larger case that is passively cooled from Akasa if you want to have it next to you for KVM or ethernet switch reasons and don't want to hear the fans when you are rendering.depending on the software, rendering will consist of cpu or both.
If you are ok with something taking up a minimum of five times more space, you can go with a standard mini build like Vapes and get better performance due to access to higher TDP parts.
for now, I think I'm gonna use my current workstation as the renderer which consists of 2x e5-2670 v2 and use my new build, which im building t his summer as my primary workstation.
while i9 renders generally renders faster, 3d renderings prefers more cores, iirc.
I also prefer not to hear the fans at 100% load, so im thinking of putting it in the other room.
anymore help on what to buy, greatly appreciated.
By Kabro Go To Postdepending on the software, rendering will consist of cpu or both.No, I think what you are planning on is probably the best idea. Just make sure you can RDP into the dedicated renderer and you'll be fine. Make any upgrades to it as needed.
for now, I think I'm gonna use my current workstation as the renderer which consists of 2x e5-2670 v2 and use my new build, which im building t his summer as my primary workstation.
while i9 renders generally renders faster, 3d renderings prefers more cores, iirc.
I also prefer not to hear the fans at 100% load, so im thinking of putting it in the other room.
anymore help on what to buy, greatly appreciated.
Since this may involve large files, you will probably want to make sure the renderer and your main PC are both hardwired to the network as you will be limited to the speed of the slowest wireless connection between the two.
e: one of the upgrades you may consider is noctua fans in the old machine so that, even if you have to keep it in the same room you are working in, it will at least be relatively quiet
RDP? talk to me like an idiot.
Im not well versed as some of y'all.
I practically know nothing about network rendering.
Im not well versed as some of y'all.
I practically know nothing about network rendering.
By Kabro Go To PostRDP? talk to me like an idiot. I practically know nothing about network rendering.Remote Desktop Protocol: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4028379/windows-10-how-to-use-remote-desktop
It is an app that lets you remotely view and control another PC. I assume you will be using Windows on both machines and Windows apps aren't operable via command line as readily as Linux apps are so using RDP is a free and built-in way to control your other PC without needing a physical KVM switch (keyboard-video-mouse).
e: I don't know anything about network rendering, either, but RDP is just a simple way to control another machine. I assume you would copy+paste the files (or setup a home network share) and take over the remote rendering machine to start the work job. And then moving the resulting files back to your main machine when done.
By Kibner Go To PostYeah, sure. Why not? Use Afterburner to help you with the undervolting and fan curve. You might want to mess with the fan curve first to make sure it is your GPU making all the noise and not something else.
By HottestVapes Go To PostGot nothing to lose by trying it
By diehard Go To Postby undervolting are you just referring to the software adjustable power limit %?
Yeah starting with that first in Afterburner with the power limit.
anybody know much about desk cable/cord management? yall going to laugh at me if i post my setup for advice and it looks trashy?
By diehard Go To Postanybody know much about desk cable/cord management? yall going to laugh at me if i post my setup for advice and it looks trashy?We are here to help
I won't laugh
By diehard Go To Postanybody know much about desk cable/cord management? yall going to laugh at me if i post my setup for advice and it looks trashy?
I use little Velcro straps to keep all the cables together, would recommend.
trash , need to do something with all the wires, especially the speaker wires.
minimal-ish RGB on the Evolv X
I expected much worse from what you made it sound like
By HottestVapes Go To PostI use little Velcro straps to keep all the cables together, would recommend.Yepp
If the speaker wires are long enough, I would try to route them behind the TV and consider bundling all those cords in that area and feed them through a channel that somewhat matches the wall. That will both organize the cables and also make them less obvious.
Think about using those velcro straps on the back underside of the table to hold all the rest of the excess wiring. Or use another channel to hold the wires and lay them against where the wall and floor meet, kind of like floor boards.
E: you can also put a color matched board or something that covers that empty space behind and under your desk. Will make changing out cables easier than putting them through a channel.
Think about using those velcro straps on the back underside of the table to hold all the rest of the excess wiring. Or use another channel to hold the wires and lay them against where the wall and floor meet, kind of like floor boards.
E: you can also put a color matched board or something that covers that empty space behind and under your desk. Will make changing out cables easier than putting them through a channel.
Oh, I also often see people run their speaker or other wall-mounted wires horizontally to the nearest corner before running them down to the floor. They also sometimes run them upwards to the ceiling if there is no nearby corner and run the wires along the crown molding until they find a corner they can send the wires down along to the base board. This works better if the speakers are mounted close to the ceiling.
Basically, areas where walls, floors, and /or ceilings meet are your friends when wanting to hide wires. Bundling wires together also makes them easier to hide and organize, though may make changing things out a bit more difficult.
Basically, areas where walls, floors, and /or ceilings meet are your friends when wanting to hide wires. Bundling wires together also makes them easier to hide and organize, though may make changing things out a bit more difficult.