By MushForBrains Go To PostUnions negotiates with employers, that's what they do. If he responses positively, then that means it worked.
So in your eyes he's already damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
I'd like to see how their pay compares to that of people who are employed by the other top running dems in the race.
Thanks I know how labor negotiations work. So does Bernie. Wonder why he set up their scales at "below what he preaches" levels though? To give us a lessons and a shining example? When are you going to address that instead of all this side wankery?
To your last comment: It's almost like you didn't even read what you quoted. I conceded that it's probably fair to say that they ARE paid better comparatively. If he's preaching $15 an hour fed mins, he shouldn't be paying salary to those expected to work long hours though. THAT IS AN INTENTIONAL WAY TO REDUCE THE LABOR RATE AND PREVENT OT.
Then it should he rectified and own up to it. I love how any misstep Bernie does becomes a death nail in his campaign, so much so that you got centrists holding hands with the far right.
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By MushForBrains Go To PostThen it should he rectified and own up to it. I love how any misstep Bernie does becomes a death nail in his campaign, so much so that you got centrists holding hands with the far right.Accountability isn't a death nail man lol
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The problem with these far left types more than anything is that they're operating as if they DONT have to answer these types of questions. Take Warren for example - she doesn't have the best plans ever all the time but at least they're actual tangible plans. Not wishlists or "the people will make it so" or "I would totally do this but I can't right now but trust me okay"
That type of stuff is only good enough to convince the people who are already subscribed. It does nothing to pull others to your side of the fence.
By MushForBrains Go To PostThen it should he rectified and own up to it. I love how any misstep Bernie does becomes a death nail in his campaign, so much so that you got centrists holding hands with the far right.
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Breh we've been shitting on Pelosi, Schumer, Tulsi (well not DY), Harris, Warren, Biden, AOC etc etc.
Some serious confirmation bias you have going on.
For the record, I don't dislike Bernie
I just don't think he has the juice to get far this time around. I'm not sure how anyone could prop him up over Warren currently either.
I just don't think he has the juice to get far this time around. I'm not sure how anyone could prop him up over Warren currently either.
By Disimpacted Go To PostMore like colonel Sanders amiriteComrade
I'm stanning for whoever makes it out of the primary and I really dgaf who makes it out. Warren / Biden / Harris / Sanders .... they'll all be pretty much the same POTUS unless the senate flips and Mitch is out as majority leader.
1000x this. Not Bernie, nor AOC, nor Ilhan nor any other idealist in congress on the left has done fuck all to show me that "millions of people are gonna march in protest and force change"
More people interested in storming area 51
By DY_nasty Go To PostThe problem with these far left types more than anything is that they're operating as if they DONT have to answer these types of questions. Take Warren for example - she doesn't have the best plans ever all the time but at least they're actual tangible plans. Not wishlists or "the people will make it so" or "I would totally do this but I can't right now but trust me okay"
1000x this. Not Bernie, nor AOC, nor Ilhan nor any other idealist in congress on the left has done fuck all to show me that "millions of people are gonna march in protest and force change"
More people interested in storming area 51
By DY_nasty Go To PostAccountability isn't a death nail man lolThe problems with these plans is that they often take way to long to implement, are crippled by commitee (look at how even the dems and Obama completely hacked away the public option), are often started as a compromise with the belief that'll get some republican aupport (which it will not), and even if it does go through it will be scrapped by the time Republicans take power once again.
The problem with these far left types more than anything is that they're operating as if they DONT have to answer these types of questions. Take Warren for example - she doesn't have the best plans ever all the time but at least they're actual tangible plans. Not wishlists or "the people will make it so" or "I would totally do this but I can't right now but trust me okay"
That type of stuff is only good enough to convince the people who are already subscribed. It does nothing to pull others to your side of the fence.
Bernie ain't even that far-left, we just live in a right wing country. Far-left would be seizing property from land lords and factories from corporations not guaranteeing healthcare and decent wages for all citizens.
Send her back moment was chill inducing, and I seriously hope we didn't just witness a moment in history that will precede an horror far greater.
People thought America was New York and L.A, but it's mostly a bunch of racist bumfucks.
Just had to let some spit fly
People thought America was New York and L.A, but it's mostly a bunch of racist bumfucks.
Just had to let some spit fly
By Can Crusher Go To PostSend her back moment was chill inducing, and I seriously hope we didn't just witness a moment in history that will precede an horror far greater.Deep
People thought America was New York and L.A, but it's mostly a bunch of racist bumfucks.
Just had to let some spit fly
By Can Crusher Go To PostSend her back moment was chill inducing, and I seriously hope we didn't just witness a moment in history that will precede an horror far greater.This is a wild misunderstanding.
People thought America was New York and L.A, but it's mostly a bunch of racist bumfucks.
Just had to let some spit fly
By MushForBrains Go To Post(look at how even the dems and Obama completely hacked away the public option)The public option was in the bill until literally the last minute when Joseph Lieberman said he wouldn't vote for a public option.
By MushForBrains Go To PostThe problems with these plans is that they often take way to long to implement, are crippled by commitee (look at how even the dems and Obama completely hacked away the public option), are often started as a compromise with the belief that'll get some republican aupport (which it will not), and even if it does go through it will be scrapped by the time Republicans take power once again.
Bernie ain't even that far-left, we just live in a right wing country. Far-left would be seizing property from land lords and factories from corporations not guaranteeing healthcare and decent wages for all citizens.
So like something rather than nothing. Cause liberal Bernie aināt getting shit passed from his agenda.
Bernie aināt that far left because heās not an anarcho-communist is some hilarious shit too.
By rodeoclown Go To PostThe public option was in the bill until literally the last minute when Joseph Lieberman said he wouldn't vote for a public option.
And then left the Dem party to caucus with the GOP
By s y ngmi Go To PostDeep
Didn't realize "send her back" deserved much of a thoughtful response, but I apologize for disappointing you.
By Lunatic Go To PostThis is a wild misunderstanding.
You know what I'm talking about. The U.S is the biggest exporter of culture in the entire world, and foreign perception is mostly constructed around the image Hollywood and whatnot create. Then you open youtube, watch some fox news, and you realize the only movie that was ever accurate was RoboCop. And that one was made by a Dutch.
Anyway, don't want Americans here to think I was levelling anything at them. Just had to type some ugly words.
By Can Crusher Go To PostSend her back moment was chill inducing, and I seriously hope we didn't just witness a moment in history that will precede an horror far greater.The biggest problem isn't that these people exist (they're a smaller subset than you think) it's that there really isn't better pushback. In fact it really doesn't help that the party that should be pushing back (both should really but we dont live in an ideal world) keeps wanting to dance with them for possible votes.
People thought America was New York and L.A, but it's mostly a bunch of racist bumfucks.
Just had to let some spit fly
Has more to do with electoral geography vs population density than push back. Rural people gonna rural
By Lunatic Go To PostThis is a wild misunderstanding.Yes and no.
By MushForBrains Go To PostThe problems with these plans is that they often take way to long to implement, are crippled by commitee (look at how even the dems and Obama completely hacked away the public option), are often started as a compromise with the belief that'll get some republican aupport (which it will not), and even if it does go through it will be scrapped by the time Republicans take power once again.You can prevent the vast majority of this shit by having an actual plan and knowing when to lock arms on certain things.
Bernie ain't even that far-left, we just live in a right wing country. Far-left would be seizing property from land lords and factories from corporations not guaranteeing healthcare and decent wages for all citizens.
By Fenderputty Go To PostBreh we've been shitting on Pelosi, Schumer, Tulsi (well not DY), Harris, Warren, Biden, AOC etc etc.Sorry didn't mean specifically you, just the overall media/neolibs. I get Bernie isn't everyone's cup of tea and he's old af, but he's the only one out there really pushing against neocons and neolibs, even now most of the dems are either running on policies that Bernie ran on and if they aren't are being questioned why they are not. To the actual left Bernie is the compromise candidate (Give me the old cumrade Bernie that was chilling with the Sandinistas).
Some serious confirmation bias you have going on.
To dismiss AOC and Omar while they're still junior members is ridiculous, who would have thought even two years ago that two young female house members who have so much of the political discourse be focused on just them. This is just the beginning of an actual left movement of the modern era, and to try to shut it down while the right embraces fascism is going to lead us down a dark fucking timeline.
By DY_nasty Go To PostYou can prevent the vast majority of this shit by having an actual plan and knowing when to lock arms on certain things.The established dems will never lock arms with leftists platforms, and if they do it'll only be do to overwhelming pressure.
By rodeoclown Go To PostThe public option was in the bill until literally the last minute when Joseph Lieberman said he wouldn't vote for a public option.As I understand it, Harry Reid wanted to rip Lieberman's head off for that but Obama stepped in and let Lieberman off the hook. I remember hearing that on a podcast so I might have recalled it wrong.
āLocking arms on version thingsā requires compromise and practicality over idealism though
The ACA want going to pass with a public option. Obama made the compromise with Lieberman to get something through. Compromise sucks but legislation requires it. Both factions need to compromise if any success is to happen post 2020
The ACA want going to pass with a public option. Obama made the compromise with Lieberman to get something through. Compromise sucks but legislation requires it. Both factions need to compromise if any success is to happen post 2020
By Fenderputty Go To PostāLocking arms on version thingsā requires compromise and practicality over idealism thoughOkay, let's outline what's idealism.
Is it "idealism" to demand that the richest country has healthcare for all, all the while insurance companies rack in huge profits and billion dollar companies pay nothing in taxes?
Is it "idealism" to demand that workers be paid a fair wage regardless if that they work for the private or public sector?
Pretty soon wanting paved roads and clean water will be consider "idealistic".
Compromise got us to Trump, who's not the disease but the symptom of a sick system. Even now we talk about how Trump might just win again regardless of all the shit he's done. The dems will compromise themselves to dust if they keep it up.
By Destiny's Abortion Go To PostLots of dems don't care long as their property values don't decrease and or increase let's face it.San Fransisco is the perfect example, they talk all the bullshit about helping people but when it comes to building a homeless shelter they get NIMBY as fuck.
By blackace Go To PostComradeI was thinking more Kentucky fried living wage
how you gonna get to real far left platforms when you can't even do the easy stuff
idealism is asking for billion dollar corps to pay taxes in one breath then handing them huge contracts in the next
paved roads and clean water, basic infrastructure revitalization was a key point of trump's campaign - and instead of hitting on multiple issues at once by incentivizing work programs/trade schools to address those specific needs (which would move people away from those heavy urban areas and address some of the overcrowding headaches) they talk up stuff like student loan instant repayment which just pushes a ton of problems simply further down the timeline.
i don't have a problem with the younger leaders in congress, i do have a problem with the priorities.
and people really need to understand or accept that a lot of americans like certain shit.
some of the far left ideas of taking/repurposing private property? im sorry who are the fascists again...
By MushForBrains Go To PostOkay, let's outline what's idealism.idealism is asking for sweeping pay reforms when you can't even protect teachers unions
Is it "idealism" to demand that the richest country has healthcare for all, all the while insurance companies rack in huge profits and billion dollar companies pay nothing in taxes?
Is it "idealism" to demand that workers be paid a fair wage regardless if that they work for the private or public sector?
Pretty soon wanting paved roads and clean water will be consider "idealistic".
Compromise got us to Trump, who's not the disease but the symptom of a sick system. Even now we talk about how Trump might just win again regardless of all the shit he's done. The dems will compromise themselves to dust if they keep it up.
idealism is asking for billion dollar corps to pay taxes in one breath then handing them huge contracts in the next
paved roads and clean water, basic infrastructure revitalization was a key point of trump's campaign - and instead of hitting on multiple issues at once by incentivizing work programs/trade schools to address those specific needs (which would move people away from those heavy urban areas and address some of the overcrowding headaches) they talk up stuff like student loan instant repayment which just pushes a ton of problems simply further down the timeline.
i don't have a problem with the younger leaders in congress, i do have a problem with the priorities.
and people really need to understand or accept that a lot of americans like certain shit.
some of the far left ideas of taking/repurposing private property? im sorry who are the fascists again...
By MushForBrains Go To PostOkay, let's outline what's idealism.
Is it "idealism" to demand that the richest country has healthcare for all, all the while insurance companies rack in huge profits and billion dollar companies pay nothing in taxes?
Is it "idealism" to demand that workers be paid a fair wage regardless if that they work for the private or public sector?
Pretty soon wanting paved roads and clean water will be consider "idealistic".
Compromise got us to Trump, who's not the disease but the symptom of a sick system. Even now we talk about how Trump might just win again regardless of all the shit he's done. The dems will compromise themselves to dust if they keep it up.
All of those are ideals lol. How are they not? Now tell me how to accomplish single payer and fair wages by getting through the senate with 60 votes? Cause chances are the GOP will still have control. The only major opportunity to pass more pure idealistic legislation is when you have complete control.
Note: Iām not suggesting we shouldnāt continue to push ever closer to the ideal
By Destiny's Abortion Go To PostYeah no. Sorry, that's not holding any fucking water.
Yeah how so? The rural vs urban divide isnāt some myth and the political geography (senate structure / EC / gerrymandering) all contribute to the exacerbation of this issue. For example, weāre only concerned about the economically anxious in the rust belt cause of the EC
its not even the gerrymandering or anything either fender
pelosi doesn't pop that shit if the internal polling doesn't validate her ahead of time
pelosi doesn't pop that shit if the internal polling doesn't validate her ahead of time
By DY_nasty Go To Postits not even the gerrymandering or anything either fender
pelosi doesn't pop that shit if the internal polling doesn't validate her ahead of time
Sure, but sheās seeking specific internal poll validation because of the gerrymandering / EC and senate structure.
If the EC was trashed, all of the most populated areas will be targeted the most. Not bumble fuck Wisconsin. If the senate was abolished, red states with small populations wouldnāt have lopsided representation. Rural populations losing some relative power would do a lot for the passing of liberal legislation.
Now I would agree with you that sheās getting too cute with this shit. Sheās playing prevent defense
i'd like to say that it would be far, far more fruitful for the house to pursue investigations aimed towards the gerrymandering situations across the country - especially considering that a trump impeachment has people shook
but either way im not sure if its something that's even a priority
but either way im not sure if its something that's even a priority
This SCOTUS has poured some cool water on the gerrymandering font. If Dems win in 2020 and position themselves to be able to draw districts, you may see bipartisan support for a legislative course.
One of Pelosis first bills had to do with fairer elections and it was promptly killed by Mitch.
In a tit for tat game, I believe the dems would be wise to seek bipartisan support while in power. It might seem weak, but fair districts benefit Dems more than the GOP so itās more of a long term win
One of Pelosis first bills had to do with fairer elections and it was promptly killed by Mitch.
In a tit for tat game, I believe the dems would be wise to seek bipartisan support while in power. It might seem weak, but fair districts benefit Dems more than the GOP so itās more of a long term win
Gerrymandering is just a by-product of every state being in charge of its own federal elections which in turn is a by-product of the stupid Electoral College system. It's a pretty shit system that results in other things like "voter fraud" ID laws, etc. Unless you create a federal elections agency in charge of elections (why this isn't a thing already, I don't know) it's a pretty moot discussion.
In Canada we have a non-partisan agency in charge of elections that also draw the electoral map.
In Canada we have a non-partisan agency in charge of elections that also draw the electoral map.
Pelosi tried to set national standards with her bill.
There's lots of problems beyond structural. That voting right bill needed to excite people. Instead they're charging area 51
There's lots of problems beyond structural. That voting right bill needed to excite people. Instead they're charging area 51
By Fenderputty Go To PostThis SCOTUS has poured some cool water on the gerrymandering font. If Dems win in 2020 and position themselves to be able to draw districts, you may see bipartisan support for a legislative course.I should've been more specific
One of Pelosis first bills had to do with fairer elections and it was promptly killed by Mitch.
In a tit for tat game, I believe the dems would be wise to seek bipartisan support while in power. It might seem weak, but fair districts benefit Dems more than the GOP so itās more of a long term win
I'm not really talking about bills as much as I'm talking about investigations. If you can waste time with Mueller and Hope Hicks, you should be able to call up some of the more openly crooked redistricting fights.
There's talent and then there's Trump talent ššš. Also not sure he should be involved in the outcome of another state's legal system.
for the record, i find it EXTREMELY hard to believe that asap rocky going through it in a swedish jail
Him and his boys assaulted some dudes in a foreign country that didn't utilize a bail system. Come on, dude.
They normally just hold you for a month and you plead guilty and because the sentence was already served you get out. Though ASAP has money so he would probably fight it.
And the 'conditions' described in TMZ is mostly likely false as a normal cell looks better than those pod rents a few pages back in SF and LA.
This is like a highly simplified version of what I do, although my clients donāt tend to ask me to insert song titles into letters.
Fintan has been absurdly good. Irish writers in general have been nailing our national delusions perfectly these past few years.
By Cleff Go To PostAnother brilliant piece on the absurdities of Brexit by Fintan O'Toole.Seems familiar
By Cleff Go To PostAnother brilliant piece on the absurdities of Brexit by Fintan O'Toole.NY Review of Books is probably my favourite publication and he puts out stuff in it often. Dude is great.