By Magic Johnson Go To PostIt's obvious what they're doing; trying to set up Warren as the person Dems should vote for, except it's not going to backfire for them. Will be very successful for them. I actually want to see just how successful it is going to be for them, so I'm going to be on my trololol shit and vote heavy for Warren.
Democrats don't want Tucker Carlson. Nobody watches fox new for the news. Chris Wallace and Shep Smith are there to give them a semblance of seriousness that's not the main point of fox. Their opinion programs are what's driving their craziness. Tucker / Hannity / Ingrahm etc etc.
The hilarious thing, to me, is that Pete and Bernie went to town halls and had success in the moment, but were all blasted by the opinion sections of their programming for a week solid after their respective halls. Their town halls were useless.
Warren though ... she shits on Fox, Calls them the engine for hate, refuses to go on Fox and then one of their opinion Programs goes on to praise her. Something neither Bernie or Pete got.
Granted Tucker is arguing for the rise of the 1950's democrat, but it's still shocking from an economic standpoint.
That fucking Chyron is saying she's going to protect workers better than the GOP. It's bonkers.
By Fenderputty Go To PostDemocrats don't want Tucker Carlson. Nobody watches fox new for the news. Chris Wallace and Shep Smith are there to give them a semblance of seriousness that's not the main point of fox. Their opinion programs are what's driving their craziness. Tucker / Hannity / Ingrahm etc etc.
The hilarious thing, to me, is that Pete and Bernie went to town halls and had success in the moment, but were all blasted by the opinion sections of their programming for a week solid after their respective halls. Their town halls were useless.
Warren though … she shits on Fox, Calls them the engine for hate, refuses to go on Fox and then one of their opinion Programs goes on to praise her. Something neither Bernie or Pete got.
Granted Tucker is arguing for the rise of the 1950's democrat, but it's still shocking from an economic standpoint.
That fucking Chyron is saying she's going to protect workers better than the GOP. It's bonkers.
Independent voters watch all the news channels, Fox News and CNN included; those channels all mean the same shit to independent minded people who are channel surfing in between commercials of the NBA Finals and the new season of MasterChef.
The fact that they'll blast Buttigieg and Sanders while propping up Warren is just further proof of who they're really afraid of on one hand and who they want you to think is going to hurt Trump on the other hand. Guess what, this is why the media is clown shoes, cuz clowns like Sahil Kapur are losing their shit over some gimmicky chyron.
Guess what else? Warren is cooked. This bitch will never recover from Pocahontas. Never. She'll never live that down. They are going to button spam the shit out of Rachel Dolezal comparisons. Then they're going to find a way to throw some bullshit in about Jussie Smollett if they can, and whatever else they can lump up together and throw into the kitchen sink if they can get away with it, because that's how politics work--it doesn't have to make sense.
Independents that watch fox opinion programs aren’t independent and all the other fox opinion programs still blast Warren. Tucker giving her praise will not help her primary at all. In the end it’s just Tucker pushing democratic economics on a bunch of hardcore Trumpers.
Also I’ve read multiple analysis that’s suggested the native American issue is not a factor
Also I’ve read multiple analysis that’s suggested the native American issue is not a factor
By Fenderputty Go To PostIndependents that watch fox opinion programs aren’t independent and all the other fox opinion programs still blast Warren. Tucker giving her praise will not help her primary at all. In the end it’s just Tucker pushing democratic economics on a bunch of hardcore Trumpers.
Also I’ve read multiple analysis that’s suggested the native American issue is not a factor
And guess who we can thank for Tucker pushing democratic economics on a bunch of hardcore Trumpers?
We can thank Bernie Sanders for that; not Warren.
But no, they want to give all the credit to Warren instead, and that's by design.
The Native American issue is absolutely a factor because Trump will make it a factor. Trump will not dignify anything else she might have to say because he won't talk about anything but the Native American issue. That is literally all he will need to control the narrative, debate, discussion, etc.
By Magic Johnson Go To PostAnd guess who we can thank for that?
It's Sanders, not Warren.
But they want to give all the credit to Warren instead, and that's by design.
The Native American is absolutely a factor because Trump will make it factor. Trump will not dignify anything else she might have to say because he won't talk about anything but the Native American issue. That is literally all he will need to control the narrative, debate, discussion, etc.
Warren has to make it out of the PRIMARY before any attacks from Trump will matter!
Nobody gives a fuck about Bernie accept for Bernie stans.
By Fenderputty Go To PostWarren has to make it out of the PRIMARY before any attacks from Trump will matter!
Nobody gives a fuck about Bernie accept for Bernie stans.
If the attacks from Trump don't matter already, then it only proves how blind Dems are for having no foresight.
It's obvious to anyone that Tucker is pushing for Warren to make it out of the primaries.
It's. A. Trap.
By Magic Johnson Go To PostIf the attacks from Trump don't matter already, then it only proves how blind Dems are for having no foresight.
It's obvious to anyone that Tucker is pushing for Warren to make it out of the primaries.
It's. A. Trap.
Since you apparently keep skipping this part:
NOBODY THAT WATCHES TUCKER IS VOTING IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES.
By Fenderputty Go To PostSince you apparently keep skipping this part:
NOBODY THAT WATCHES TUCKER IS VOTING IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES.
I watch Tucker all the time and I'll be voting in the Democratic primaries.
By Fenderputty Go To PostYou are a wild anecdote. You are not representative of Tuckers audience.
Ok, but why would anyone have to be representative of Tucker's larger audience in order to see that Warren's democratic economics are no different than Sanders', yet all the sudden she's getting all the credit? All the sudden they're willing to ignore the Native American issue? It's all a troll and it's not even an elaborate one at that.
Warren spent her entire career protecting people in bankruptcy and then going after banks as a politician, if anything, she should have always gotten more credit then she’s been given. Sorry Nobody outside of the Bernie bubble likes the old curmudgeon. He pissed away a lot of goodwill in 2015 and is still harping on white working class fragility. Fuck him and his fox townhalls
By Fenderputty Go To PostWarren has to make it out of the PRIMARY before any attacks from Trump will matter!That's not true. Dems jump on weaknesses exposed by the right all the time lol
Nobody gives a fuck about Bernie accept for Bernie stans.
By Fenderputty Go To PostIndependents that watch fox opinion programs aren’t independent and all the other fox opinion programs still blast Warren. Tucker giving her praise will not help her primary at all. In the end it’s just Tucker pushing democratic economics on a bunch of hardcore Trumpers.That's just not...
Also I’ve read multiple analysis that’s suggested the native American issue is not a factor
The entire reason "can x candidate beat Trump?" became such a huge factor is because of that debacle. It may not be as prevalent now, but she definitely sacrificed a few points starting out because of that. Imagine how much momentum Warren would have if that never occurred.
By DY_nasty Go To PostThat's not true. Dems jump on weaknesses exposed by the right all the time lol
Sure but if it was true here, it would already be playing a factor. He’s been harping on the Native American thing for years as has the right wing media. They’ve already attacked her college tenure as bullshit because of the Native American thing. I mean maybe the next time trump makes the comment will be the one that matters,
By DY_nasty Go To PostThat's just not…
The entire reason "can x candidate beat Trump?" became such a huge factor is because of that debacle. It may not be as prevalent now, but she definitely sacrificed a few points starting out because of that. Imagine how much momentum Warren would have if that never occurred.
Maybe ... I mean this is reasonable. Still I think that attack has run its course to some extent.
Trump had emails, Clinton foundation, uranium etc etc to attack Hillary on. What’s he got left here?
Are you saying it doesn't matter simply because Carlson said it?
I'm pretty sure the field collectively laughed at Pocahontas and capitalized in turn. This happened. She's done great digging out of that hole but ...yeah. That impact was definitely real.
I'm pretty sure the field collectively laughed at Pocahontas and capitalized in turn. This happened. She's done great digging out of that hole but ...yeah. That impact was definitely real.
By DY_nasty Go To PostAre you saying it doesn't matter simply because Carlson said it?
I'm pretty sure the field collectively laughed at Pocahontas and capitalized in turn. This happened. She's done great digging out of that hole but …yeah. That impact was definitely real.
Carlson praised her economic platform. Smoke postulated it’s a ruse so she can win the primary and be attacked by Trump on the Native American issue. My contention is that Carlson’s praise will have a negligible impact at best on the primary so his ruse postulate is not accurate. Nor do I think the Native American talking point matters much tbis point as an attack from trump even if Tucker’s “ruse” works. If she makes it out of the primary because of her Economic platform, nobody will care about the flub
By DY_nasty Go To PostOh nevermind. Smoke Dogg
Lol
Fox is propping her up to spite and damage Biden. Duh
Not sure what other conclusion can logically be drawn
Not sure what other conclusion can logically be drawn
By DY_nasty Go To PostFox is propping her up to spite and damage Biden. DuhThis. I don't know why we constantly look at whatever Fox News does through any sort of "in good faith" perspective. This is all about poisoning the entire DNC primary.
Not sure what other conclusion can logically be drawn
By DY_nasty Go To PostFox is propping her up to spite and damage Biden. Duh
Not sure what other conclusion can logically be drawn
Then why not have all hands on deck? This is just tucker spouting shit on his own. It's also not the first time he's gone populist with his economics. A couple months ago he was making a populist push on his show and got lit up by Euro dude for being a hypocritical elite.
By reilo Go To PostI think you're way too concerned with what Tucker is doing.This is what I think.
Dude isn’t a serious journalist and nothing he does is some masterful fiftieth dimensional chess.
By reilo Go To PostI think you're way too concerned with what Tucker is doing.
I'm not ... which is why I started with "wat" and argued his commentary was meaningless. I just find his populist economic crap interesting to some extent. He's been on that kick and its odd for that platform.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostThis is what I think.
Dude isn’t a serious journalist and nothing he does is some masterful fiftieth dimensional chess.
I even highlighted the two people at Fox who are considered serious!
By Fenderputty Go To PostThen why not have all hands on deck? This is just tucker spouting shit on his own. It's also not the first time he's gone populist with his economics. A couple months ago he was making a populist push on his show and got lit up by Euro dude for being a hypocritical elite.Not everything is done with a hammer, friend.
By DY_nasty Go To PostNot everything is done with a hammer, friend.
Now apply that to GOP political playbook. It’s usually a fully coordinated assault from all fronts.
This could be the GOP not really having and identity right now. Conservatives out here supporting tariffs and shit lol
By DY_nasty Go To PostFox is propping her up to spite and damage Biden. DuhMaybe they think having Warren Vs Trump is a much easier election than against Biden.
Not sure what other conclusion can logically be drawn
By Fenderputty Go To PostNow apply that to GOP political playbook. It’s usually a fully coordinated assault from all fronts.I wouldn't say that at all. They dangle bait for Dems to screw themselves on in the long run all the time. The purity testing for example is a minefield right now.
This could be the GOP not really having and identity right now. Conservatives out here supporting tariffs and shit lol
By Punished Go To PostWrong thread
Thought exercise, is this ever the right thread?
By Fenderputty Go To PostWarren spent her entire career protecting people in bankruptcy and then going after banks as a politician, if anything, she should have always gotten more credit then she’s been given. Sorry Nobody outside of the Bernie bubble likes the old curmudgeon. He pissed away a lot of goodwill in 2015 and is still harping on white working class fragility. Fuck him and his fox townhallsRight nobody likes Bernie is why he is constantly ahead of Warren. Bernie's been about what he says while Warren use to be a Republican-lite. She will not do enough for the American workers or the environment and will most likely bend towards more "bipartisanship" than Bernie would.
By Hitch Go To PostMy stupid fucking brain had someone entirely different in mind when reading DT there
By Perfect Blue Go To Post
Is he trying to say going to the moon is part of the same plan as going to Mars? Only way I see that making sense.
The space junkie on me believes he's referring to the idea of using the moon as a center piece of any interplanetary travel plans - but in reality.... yeah