By The Frankman Go To PostWell my computer is on the process of going kablooey. I hope the GPU prices keep dropping, alot of 1070 cards are in the $500-550 range now.Pffffft. All about that Intel gaming GPU now breh.
By Kibner Go To Post2020, thoughRight in time for 8k 288hz HDR3.2 I-Sync microLED monitors.
By Zabojnik Go To PostPffffft. All about that Intel gaming GPU now breh.We're finally going to get Project Offset
By Laboured Go To Postwait watI know, rite? 8k and 288hz. Insane.
lmao, the fan in this NUC sounds like a miniature PS4 Pro when it gets going
my passive case should be arriving either saturday or monday. gonna be so happy when it gets here
my passive case should be arriving either saturday or monday. gonna be so happy when it gets here
By Kibner Go To Postlmao, the fan in this NUC sounds like a miniature PS4 Pro when it gets goingI'm gonna need temperature comparisons at idle and under load. For science.
my passive case should be arriving either saturday or monday. gonna be so happy when it gets here
By Zabojnik Go To PostI'm gonna need temperature comparisons at idle and under load. For science.If I can figure out how to do that via ssh, sure.
By Smokey Go To PostWhat OS?debian
By Kibner Go To PostdebianI don't think you can get temps without installing something.
sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
sudo sensors-detect
sudo service kmod start
sensors
By diehard Go To PostI don't think you can get temps without installing something.
sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
sudo sensors-detect
sudo service kmod start
sensors
yeah this is what i was getting towards. install some temp related packages and then you should be able to get what you need by doing ssh [nodename] [package name]
I'll have to take a look at those packages. Any load generators you guys know of?
Also, my case came in a day early. I installed the feet on it so I can place it places without worrying about noise or scratches, but the rest will have to wait until later. It's twice as wide and twice as long as the stock case, but just as tall. So, it takes up four times more space, but that is fine with me as I can hear the fan going (really softly at low speeds) even while idling.
Also, my case came in a day early. I installed the feet on it so I can place it places without worrying about noise or scratches, but the rest will have to wait until later. It's twice as wide and twice as long as the stock case, but just as tall. So, it takes up four times more space, but that is fine with me as I can hear the fan going (really softly at low speeds) even while idling.
I got the sensors stuff working. I checked the CPU load before this screen shot and it was under 0.1% usage, so these temps should be relatively accurate for idle load:
Now to just find something that will generate a load for me...
Now to just find something that will generate a load for me...
Using stress-ng with the following command to generate a heavy cpu and memory load for 10 minutes to take temperature reading:
I couldn't take a screenshot in time before the temperatures just dropped, but peak any core temperature was ~96C with the hottest core averaging ~92C at the end of the run.
e: oh, and the tests were done in a house with the A/C set to 71 F
sudo stress-ng --cpu 8 --vm 7 --vm-bytes 4G --timeout 10m --metrics-brief
I couldn't take a screenshot in time before the temperatures just dropped, but peak any core temperature was ~96C with the hottest core averaging ~92C at the end of the run.
e: oh, and the tests were done in a house with the A/C set to 71 F
do a "lscpu" and see what frequency it is being throttled to. Those temps might be the same under that artificial load with your new case, but it might throttle differently and you can see the change there.
By diehard Go To Postdo a "lscpu" and see what frequency it is being throttled to. Those temps might be the same under that artificial load with your new case, but it might throttle differently and you can see the change there.Will do.
Another small note, I'm only testing roughly 28/32 GB of ram. Not sure if I want to do all 32 and either lock up my system or prematurely age my SSD.
Testing 28 should be fine. I'll put a load on an SSD to test SAS expanders and controllers but i can't think of any good reason for you to do it.
Ryzen 2 is up for pre-order, reviews/release on the 19th.
Ryzen 2 is up for pre-order, reviews/release on the 19th.
Using
e: the cpu doesn't seem to get above 3.2 GHz even when starting cold, though. I wonder if that is because all 8 threads are being used or something else?
base clock is 1.9 while max turbo is 4.2
e2: for clarification
Intel i7-8650U CPU
min: 0.4 ghz
base: 1.9 ghz
turbo boost max: 4.2 ghz
current stable: 2.9 ~ 3.5 ghz
watch -n2 "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep \"^[c]pu MHz\""
to check the cpu frequency of each thread every two seconds.e: the cpu doesn't seem to get above 3.2 GHz even when starting cold, though. I wonder if that is because all 8 threads are being used or something else?
base clock is 1.9 while max turbo is 4.2
e2: for clarification
Intel i7-8650U CPU
min: 0.4 ghz
base: 1.9 ghz
turbo boost max: 4.2 ghz
current stable: 2.9 ~ 3.5 ghz
alright, 20 minute test finished, clocks were still getting up to 3.5 ghz at the end, so no throttoling:
Yeah they will never get to their max turbo if all cores are being used. 3.5ghz after 20 minutes is actually really impressive, i don't think any thin & lights with that CPU could do that.
By diehard Go To PostYeah they will never get to their max turbo if all cores are being used. 3.5ghz after 20 minutes is actually really impressive, i don't think any thin & lights with that CPU could do that.It fluctuated between 2.9 and 3.5 constantly. I would need to run it again and somehow figure out a way to spit out the speed each second or so into a single file so I could take an average in order to really get a feel.
dangit, don't have any isopropyl alcohol or coffee filters/mircofiber cloth in the house. gotta go do some more shopping before i can finish this transplant.
By diehard Go To PostRyzen 2 is up for pre-order, reviews/release on the 19th.
Can’t wait to see gaming benchmarks of the 2700x barely matching the i5 8400.
By HottestVapes Go To PostCan’t wait to see gaming benchmarks of the 2700x barely matching the i5 8400.Zen might not ever be the go-to for pure gaming or any single threaded application... but Ryzen 2 should be around 10% faster, cheaper, and come with a cooler vs first gen Ryzen though.
Alright, the transplant into a new case has been completed. I even got two USB 2.0 ports and a serial port out of it!
I worry that I may not have applied the thermal paste correctly. I used as little as I could, but it still came out thick, so I spread it around the center a bit to thin it out.
e:
e2: i also can put in a 2.5" drive with this new case, too, if i need more local storage
I worry that I may not have applied the thermal paste correctly. I used as little as I could, but it still came out thick, so I spread it around the center a bit to thin it out.
e:
e2: i also can put in a 2.5" drive with this new case, too, if i need more local storage
Temps after two hours of idling in the new case:
Temps after 20 minutes under load in the new case:
Speeds were about the same, so I'm pretty happy with the ~30 C improvement in temps.
Temps after 20 minutes under load in the new case:
Speeds were about the same, so I'm pretty happy with the ~30 C improvement in temps.
By diehard Go To Postnice! Are the frequencies any more consistent now?Yeah, the range is the same, but doesn't jump around quite as much and probably sits ~100 mhz higher, on average.
e: the temps might climb up a little bit more if i kept it running for two hours, but it shouldn't be much and i don't think that's a very realistic use-case so i'm not worried about it
By diehard Go To PostZen might not ever be the go-to for pure gaming or any single threaded application… but Ryzen 2 should be around 10% faster, cheaper, and come with a cooler vs first gen Ryzen though.
I've mixed feelings overall, first generation Zen on release offered superb price/performance compared to the Kabylake CPUs. Especially the 1600 vs 7600K. It didn't offer the highest FPS, but did often provide better minimums. £200, unlocked and overclocked reliably to 3.9Ghz. Fucking bargain. Stock cooler was okay, not the miracle cooler than many Tech Youtuber's claimed, at least not in my experience.
Even with the paper launch for CoffeeLake, I'd still say Ryzen was a good choice since they were vastly cheaper and the motherboards were cheaper too. Now though, CoffeeLake CPUs are readily available and a selection of motherboards across all ranges. It's a hard sell. The 2700X is £300. The 8700K is £281 at the moment on Amazon. It's a little bit slower for multicore applications, far exceeds it in single core applications.
8600K is £210, same price as the 2600x and same story as above.
The 2600 is much cheaper at £170, but for £20 less there's the i5 8400 that's a locked chip, but still outdoes an overclocked 1600 while drawing half as much power, and the story will likely be the same come the 19th when the embargo on Zen+ is up.
Basically, outside of some niche uses like using heavily core/thread-bound applications daily, Ryzen CPUs have little to offer the average consumer in the current market.
Threadripper is still gucci in my book, so are the low end 2200g/2400g.
Edit: On the plus side, Zen+ has blessed us with the beautiful RGB ITX X470 board. Complete with RGB underglow and RGB on the M.2 heatsink and 2 addressable RGB headers for even more RGB accessories.
I basically agree, there was definitely still some scenarios where for the mid-range Ryzen will a good choice for the price, but a lot of those went away with the release of B360.
Some info still under embargo but i'm curious to see it next week, mainly what they replaced XFR with. I'll probably be ordering an 8700k or 2600x (i don't really need to upgrade, i just found a person to help out by selling my current setup).
Some info still under embargo but i'm curious to see it next week, mainly what they replaced XFR with. I'll probably be ordering an 8700k or 2600x (i don't really need to upgrade, i just found a person to help out by selling my current setup).
I am finally ready to purchase a couple UPS after getting tired of brownouts and very short term power outages in inclement weather. I will be buying one for PC and another for home theater, so it needs to work with computers, routers, switches, consoles, and an audio mixer. I found three that seem to be pretty good and in my budget, so please help me choose.
$203: Trip Lite SMART1500LCD
$180: CyperPower CP1500PFCLCD
$190: APC BR1500MS
I want the one that works with the most sensitive devices (due to my own paranoia about how often the PS4 and audio mixer reset). I don't care about noise when the battery kicks in, as long as it is silent when it doesn't.
I already have everything plugged into quality surge protectors but they don't help with maintain power with some of the power spikes/dips I get here.
$203: Trip Lite SMART1500LCD
$180: CyperPower CP1500PFCLCD
$190: APC BR1500MS
I want the one that works with the most sensitive devices (due to my own paranoia about how often the PS4 and audio mixer reset). I don't care about noise when the battery kicks in, as long as it is silent when it doesn't.
I already have everything plugged into quality surge protectors but they don't help with maintain power with some of the power spikes/dips I get here.
i fucks with APC personally. I've never used a UPS, but I've used some of their other products and I've never had any issue with them.
By Smokey Go To Posti fucks with APC personally. I've never used a UPS, but I've used some of their other products and I've never had any issue with them.I might have to go with the Trip Lite one for the home theater just for the sheer number of things I want to have battery back-up for (switch, router, two consoles, mixer, tv, maybe the dsp). It has 10 battery backed ports while the other two only have five.
By Smokey Go To Posti fucks with APC personally. I've never used a UPS, but I've used some of their other products and I've never had any issue with them.Well, I ended up going with the APC unit. Got two of them and a PDU in order to add more outlets to the one that is going to my home theater setup.
I never knew about ripple before. Especially not that it is one of the causes of fried components.
Also, the multiple 12v rails as a safety thing is also new to me. Good find, Smokey.
Also, the multiple 12v rails as a safety thing is also new to me. Good find, Smokey.
By Kibner Go To PostI never knew about ripple before. Especially not that it is one of the causes of fried components.
Also, the multiple 12v rails as a safety thing is also new to me. Good find, Smokey.
two things i don't cheap out on: psu and motherboard. if one fails, your rig is done.
By Smokey Go To Posttwo things i don't cheap out on: psu and motherboard. if one fails, your rig is done.Over the past 9 months, I've come to the conclusion you just shouldn't cheap out on any part of a build. Get exactly what you want the first time round, and the best that you can afford. Otherwise you may end replacing damn near every component.
That is correct. Can you imagine the kind of aesthetic disaster you'd have on your hands if just one of your RGB lights failed on you? Unthinkable.
I bought one of the Philips Hue Go lights that was in one of the RBG videos. I think the bloke in the video had two but one is decent enough for some pubg mood lighting 😎
By Laboured Go To PostThat is correct. Can you imagine the kind of aesthetic disaster you'd have on your hands if just one of your RGB lights failed on you? Unthinkable.Imagine waking up one day and finding your G and B have gone and you're left with R. Nightmare stuff.
By Laboured Go To PostThat is correct. Can you imagine the kind of aesthetic disaster you'd have on your hands if just one of your RGB lights failed on you? Unthinkable.No, I can't imagine.
Finally got my old computer to work, although it’s mad slow now and for some reason downloads take forever. I have gigabit internet and it’s taking me 5 hours to download CS