By HasphatsAnts Go To PostI think Obama was, all in all, a fair president. But the “yasssss, go off king” fawning over his presidency is moronic. Just because we have a vile man in the Oval Office now doesn’t mean that we give power a free pass.Just wait til the next president gets in
Every American president should be excoriated for their moral failings, and it’s our civic duty to do so
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By DY_nasty Go To PostJust wait til the next president gets inDubya was always a kindly man who drew shitty paintings and not someone responsible for the deaths of 1 million Iraqis.
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By HasphatsAnts Go To PostI think Obama was, all in all, a fair president. But the “yasssss, go off king” fawning over his presidency is moronic. Just because we have a vile man in the Oval Office now doesn’t mean that we give power a free pass.
Every American president should be excoriated for their moral failings, and it’s our civic duty to do so
- Obama gives a speech for the left and travels to CA
- smokedog asks why and says go away.
- I respond sarcastically to smokedog because this is what Obama shoulda and needs to do.
- you remind me of Obama’s failings I never forgot about.
Me: /shrug
didn't we have this discussion and came to the conclusion that everyone who takes the highest level of office is a piece of shit?
By Pac-12 Go To PostSpeaking of, I'm here to announce my candidacy for 2020.Why aim so low?
By DY_nasty Go To PostWhy aim so low?
You just don't become world emperor / demigod overnight.
By Pac-12 Go To PostYou just don't become world emperor / demigod overnight.not with that attitude
I said as much to Dy before that Trump is the best foil/PR for Bush and Obama. Everyone so quick to blow 'em now.
By Random Ass Username Go To PostI said as much to Dy before that Trump is the best foil/PR for Bush and Obama. Everyone so quick to blow 'em now.remember the good old days when we only lied about the start of a war?
man. we had it good
the good old days of just ever expanding the patriot act and shitting on our constitution and holding people indefinitely in naval briggs
By Fenderputty Go To Post- Obama gives a speech for the left and travels to CA
- smokedog asks why and says go away.
- I respond sarcastically to smokedog because this is what Obama shoulda and needs to do.
- you remind me of Obama’s failings I never forgot about.
Me: /shrug
Eh, not particularly interested in what a president should sound like is all
FWIW not really directing this at you, just very annoyed by easy-to-pander political commentary
By Smoke Dogg Go To PostSemantics: Those advancements were targeted at maximizing performance within specific thermal constraints, as all advancements are, so that consoles won't just red ring out of nowhere. The whole reason Sony got into that alliance was because of Ken Kutaragi, who wanted a chip that only the PS3 could use, that only the PS3 could reap the benefits of–from said alliance. There were people even within IBM who knew they screwed Sony, and it left an acknowledged aftertaste of bitter guilt in their dirty whore mouths. Everybody knows that shit is called a betrayalton.You have some misunderstandings about this whole thing, but if you want to discuss it it should probably go to the tech thread.
You really think Kutaragi was like, "Yeah, sure, IBM, go ahead and fuck me over, give this chip over to Microsoft who contributed nothing to the design."
Serves PPC right that it's basically a dead, legacy architecture now anyway.
Long live ARM, bitch.
By diehard Go To PostYou have some misunderstandings about this whole thing, but if you want to discuss it it should probably go to the tech thread.
Nah, I'm pretty sure my understanding is pretty good. There is nothing to discuss. Microsoft paid off IBM to bail them out and the rest is history. I understand fully that Sony should've picked a better partner.
By Smoke Dogg Go To PostNah, I'm pretty sure my understanding is pretty good. There is nothing to discuss. Microsoft paid off IBM to bail them out and the rest is history. I understand fully that Sony should've picked a better partner.Incroyable
By Smoke Dogg Go To PostNah, I'm pretty sure my understanding is pretty good. There is nothing to discuss. Microsoft paid off IBM to bail them out and the rest is history. I understand fully that Sony should've picked a better partner.Yes, this is definitely the correct attitude to have. Like i said, this is politics thread so i won't point everything you said that was inaccurate.
By diehard Go To PostYes, this is definitely the correct attitude to have. Like i said, this is politics thread so i won't point everything you said that was inaccurate.
Nothing I said was inaccurate. If you could point out any inaccuracies, you would have already. So stop making excuses bruh. Got no time for these antics. Stop with the foolishness already. Jeez. Smh.
nah im at work now so i couldn't respond properly anyway, and tech discussions for me are for fun, i have to argue about this stuff work too much already. I can tell this won't be a good discussions already so chances are i wont be making a reply when i get home either. If Smoke wants to take that as a win or something its alright
By RobNBanks Go To Postdidn't we have this discussion and came to the conclusion that everyone who takes the highest level of office is a piece of shit?All Presidents are War Criminals.
Politics is wrestling. Dubya went in as shit heel, got x-pac heat by the end of his presidency and has been working on his face turn for a decade.
By Flutter Go To PostWhat's a berniecrat?Someone who believes comrade Bernie isn't a millionaire?
By Flutter Go To PostWhat's a berniecrat?
A berniecrat is a democrat that's actually socialist (aka a true leftist like Bernie) rather than centrist (aka a republican-lite like Obama)
By Smoke Dogg Go To PostAnd where do you lean politically, mate?I voted for Trump during the election
By Flutter Go To PostI voted for Trump during the election☠️
I'm a socialist, I'm terrified of our current politicians in place, but exicted about the bigger push from the Left that has occurred this past year.
By Flutter Go To PostAh.lol 🤣
So basically baristas with a major in Wikipedia.
I dont know man, I know what Smoke Dogg is saying, but calling them berniecrat, true socialist, republican-like Obama...
All I'm thinking of is my high school years where people divided themselves into hiphop or rock fans, and somehow found a common ground calledOscario-Cortez Linkin Park.
All I'm thinking of is my high school years where people divided themselves into hiphop or rock fans, and somehow found a common ground called
Eh there's a huge lack of actual left in the USA and plenty of people who just think because you're left of right you're leftist.
By Random Ass Username Go To PostEh there's a huge lack of actual left in the USA and plenty of people who just think because you're left of right you're leftist.Well yeah, I get it. Same here where anything not being a pure conservative is called being moderate, or liberal. It really isn't, like you said.
When Smoke Dogg asks me where I align politically, I don't know how to answer to that. I'm conservative in certain areas. I understand the need for basic censorship because I think people on the average are fucking idiots. I also think that having some 'socialist' programs such as basic income and healthcare are needed because people are fucking idiots who can't take care of themselves. This includes me of course.
It's why I gave that example about how it was in high school. Instead of discussing, it has to start with some asking what you like and believe in and apparently, you should keep to an unwritten guideline.
That's fair I wouldn't even know where to start with Berniecrats. Hate that type cultist shit anyway.
I dont mind Bernie, hell I agree with a lot of his stances but it's his fans that annoys me.
There's really a difference in believing in a cause and stanning the fuck out of the man.
There's really a difference in believing in a cause and stanning the fuck out of the man.
By Flutter Go To PostI dont mind Bernie, hell I agree with a lot of his stances but it's his fans that annoys me.
There's really a difference in believing in a cause and stanning the fuck out of the man.
Much like Corbyn.
By Random Ass Username Go To PostMy issue is putting any one person especially a politician on a pedestal. Be about issues.I would agree with this but I live in one of the most corrupt countries in the world, so I basically gotta vote for the most trustworthy dude amongst thieves and snake-oil salesmen. I haven't voted for issues in years, I gotta get the dude that's least likely to fuck up the country even further.
By rvy Go To PostI would agree with this but I live in one of the most corrupt countries in the world, so I basically gotta vote for the most trustworthy dude amongst thieves and snake-oil salesmen. I haven't voted for issues in years, I gotta get the dude that's least likely to fuck up the country even further.That makes sense but were talking about a cult of personality around a senator of all things =/.
Yep. Nothing wrong with what you're doing rvy, but it's not the same gripes we have about Bernie supporters.
I called them fans for a reason.
I called them fans for a reason.
i get all ya'll saying but at the same time I don't think it's weird to see so many stans for bernie or obama or *insert other person* when you consider the scum that generally gets into politics and is elected to office. If you see a person in those circles that seems even remotely decent a human being you'll latch onto that to a fault.
Is that right? No, but I understand it. Shit, I do it myself most of the time.
When they get away from this professional politician thing maybe we'll get somewhere.
Is that right? No, but I understand it. Shit, I do it myself most of the time.
When they get away from this professional politician thing maybe we'll get somewhere.
There's nothing weird about it, it's just obnoxious as fuck and allows people to be glib and rally around a person. Right now Obama and Bush are getting all the nice PR because Trump is such a raving lunatic. You know in spite of them re-enforcing and expanding the imperial presidency.
Bernie sold a bunch of people on not being Hillary and student loan forgiveness but his foreign policy answers were so laughable.
Bernie sold a bunch of people on not being Hillary and student loan forgiveness but his foreign policy answers were so laughable.
I'ma keep using Berniecrat cuz it ain't like Warrencrat became a thing instead.
Pre-emptively: Warrencrat is a term we'd be using to describe Berniecrats if Elizabeth Warren had run against Hillary instead.
Hillarycrat is a term we should be and should've been using too.
That's what the primaries were in 2016, and continue to be in 2018, after all: Hillarycrats vs. Berniecrats.
It's a battle for who the true Democrats should be, and inarguably should have been. It's a battle for the soul of the party's future. It's pretty obvious.
Pre-emptively: Warrencrat is a term we'd be using to describe Berniecrats if Elizabeth Warren had run against Hillary instead.
Hillarycrat is a term we should be and should've been using too.
That's what the primaries were in 2016, and continue to be in 2018, after all: Hillarycrats vs. Berniecrats.
It's a battle for who the true Democrats should be, and inarguably should have been. It's a battle for the soul of the party's future. It's pretty obvious.