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jeannie sell the team smfh
jeannie sell the team smfh
League should be happy the lakers have poor owners. I do not want to see a Balmer type of guy own the Lakers.
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By domino Go To Posthttps://old.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1dcsqfx/reportedly_the_university_of_kentucky_pursued_dan/I now classify Lakers are a small market team. Don't @ me.
jeannie sell the team smfh
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I would’ve taken the job
He’d have gotten fired in 3 years after LeBron and AD leave
Then go back to UCONN
Dan did all of this to get a bigger check from UCONN, smart
He’d have gotten fired in 3 years after LeBron and AD leave
Then go back to UCONN
Dan did all of this to get a bigger check from UCONN, smart
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Just read a Yahoo roundtable where everyone called the Lakers job "dead end", mentioned they're exactly .500 the last 3 seasons, and that they're almost certainly drafting Bronny. Have fun with that JJ Redick, maybe you should've kept your hands to yourself in that uber!
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By Rob Go To PostNBA had Magic vs LarryAngel and Catlin are basically making headlines
WNBA has Caitlin
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By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostAnd A'ja is Duncan and Shaq put together.damn. she is dominating...
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By blackace Go To Postdamn. she is dominating…
She's a monster. I'm gonna go to the Sun vs Aces game in Sept.
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It's basically A'ja and Stewie as the two best players and Stewie has been taking more of a backseat these past two seasons.
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Standard role player stuff, greening tightly contested threes and pulling up from way outside at the end of the shot clock while locking down Kyrie and getting the gamewinning steal and chasedown block. I can totally see why this stuff wouldn't translate on a different team, clearly a superteam merchant 🙄
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I'm not sure how accurate all this is, but I did enjoy the read: https://uproxx.com/dimemag/stephen-a-smith-andraya-carter-wnba-first-take-caitlin-clark-video/
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By Sharp Go To Posttbf the two team sample kinda says he is a better player when he has better teammates which is kinda true for almost all players
Standard role player stuff, greening tightly contested threes and pulling up from way outside at the end of the shot clock while locking down Kyrie and getting the gamewinning steal and chasedown block. I can totally see why this stuff wouldn't translate on a different team, clearly a superteam merchant 🙄
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By blackace Go To Posttbf the two team sample kinda says he is a better player when he has better teammates which is kinda true for almost all playersI mean he wasn't this good in San Antonio and this is probably going to end up being his career peak, but he still ranked super high in multiyear RAPM even before he left. Mostly just pointing out that a lot of the stuff he does (especially his shot diet and opportunistic help and transition defense) is pretty valuable independent of the spacing on the team and defensive scheme--if anything how tightly he has to be guarded and how smart he is about reacting to closeouts is a major contributor to that spacing. I'm struggling to think of other 40% three point shooters with that kind of shot diet who routinely handle the ball, pull up, and are quality passers who get called role players.
Like I'm sure there are some but there can't be a lot, almost everyone else who shoots that well from three with 7 AST/100 is considered a star. Other players who shoot as well from three with a >= 7 AST/100, regardless of three point shot volume or defense: Conley, McCollum, J-Dub, Jamal Murray, D'Lo, Tyus, Brogdon, Kyrie, LeBron, Steph, and Brunson. Of those only D'Lo, Brogdon, and Tyus are generally called role players, and D'Lo is (1) the only one of those three with close to his three point volume and (2) doesn't play defense at all. So I basically don't understand what makes him a role player other than he came off the bench a lot earlier in his career.
Edit: I forgot D'Lo was actually an All Star one year, lol. So even ignoring his defense there's basically no one else who shoots and passes like him who's called a role player.
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Just saying he is the kind of player that helps you finish your team, not start your team.
That's why people say he benefits from being on the Celtics.
That's why people say he benefits from being on the Celtics.
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By blackace Go To PostJust saying he is the kind of player that helps you finish your team, not start your team.Yeah he's not a good #1 offensive option. But neither are some other guys on that list (Murray, McCollum, J-Dub--hell, even Kyrie kinda sucked as a #1, though he's obviously in another tier offensively from the rest of those guys). I mean I guess you could call all of them role players but that feels like it's overly dismissive towards their overall impact, and none of them are close to the defenders White is.
That's why people say he benefits from being on the Celtics.
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By Sharp Go To PostYeah he's not a good #1 offensive option. But neither are some other guys on that list (Murray, McCollum, J-Dub–hell, even Kyrie kinda sucked as a #1, though he's obviously in another tier offensively from the rest of those guys). I mean I guess you could call all of them role players but that feels like it's overly dismissive towards their overall impact, and none of them are close to the defenders White is.White is basically a modern Manu. That's closest match impact wise that I can think of.
Any playoff team that's not fringe would super benefit from having him but again I don't think he is moving the needle for a team like Det.
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By Rob Go To PostHow many players could move the needle for DET
How many? I don't know, but superstars do move the needle for trash teams all the time.
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By blackace Go To PostWhite is basically a modern Manu. That's closest match impact wise that I can think of.I mean if you ask Pistons fans they would kill for someone who provides that level of spacing around Cade so I dunno if that's the best example lol. I do see what you're getting at though, but let's be honest about how hard moving the needle for DET is--Wemby this year only improved the Spurs' expected wins by like 7, and he was basically playing at a top 10 in the league level for the second half of the year (albeit in limited minutes). Prorate that out to an extra 15 expected wins to Detroit and they're still a 35 win team that probably doesn't make the play-in. There aren't really a lot of good examples of players of that caliber joining a team with literally no other changes, because they won't come in free agency and rookies almost never move the needle like that, but I think that illustrates how hard it is to pull a team up by yourself. It's probably a lot fewer players than you think who could do that. At the level where DET and SAS are, the negative players are just so bad that replacing them with players who aren't total garbage is way more important than adding starpower.
Any playoff team that's not fringe would super benefit from having him but again I don't think he is moving the needle for a team like Det.
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I feel Wemby would have made Det way better than he did for the Spurs. Pop is a tank master when he wants to be and not having a single guard on the team who could properly feed the post or run something that resembled a pick and roll is proof that or proof that he is washed.
I am not knocking White because I think dudes like him are crazy under appreciated but I also know that he wouldn't be as valuable as a cornerstone for bad team
I am not knocking White because I think dudes like him are crazy under appreciated but I also know that he wouldn't be as valuable as a cornerstone for bad team
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White is great but gotta read something into him being fourth or fifth option on that side. Jrue looks leagues better now than he has at any point since Bucks’ championship win because he’s just asked to defend and then shoot a 3.
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By n8 dogg Go To PostWhite is great but gotta read something into him being fourth or fifth option on that side. Jrue looks leagues better now than he has at any point since Bucks’ championship win because he’s just asked to defend and then shoot a 3.Yeah, but Jrue also had a commensurate decline in his offensive RAPM this year--he is pretty much a role player on the current Celtics (albeit an elite one) because of the types of shots he's taking being very similar to the types that someone like Hauser or Pritchard can take. His job on offense is basically to be a play finisher making high quality shots at elite percentages. White is not that, he has a much more important role on this team than I think he's given credit for. i.e. he's not just taking the easy shots, he's kind of responsible for bailing them out of bad possessions.
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Well calibrated model that unfortunately is not very high on my favorite prospect :( (or anyone in this draft). My only copium is that it trained between '04 and '23 so a lot of the stuff it values might not apply as much today (for instance it thought Chet had a very low chance of becoming an All Star and was the sixth worst pick in its whole sample), and it's not actually projecting anything related to player value--just whether you make the ASG--which might make it underestimate a modern guard heavy draft like this one. But it provides a pretty clear picture of why front offices are so down on this draft, compared to statistical models that are only looking at player impact rather than star potential which tend to think this draft is pretty normal.
I don't usually post much about draft models because i think most of them are really poorly done and don't use well justified assumptions (like 90% of them won't outperform age/competition adjusted BPM), but this one doesn't have those problems IMO (even though I'm not sure "makes the ASG" is a great target, it does tend to be something GMs think about when picking in the lottery). Hoping the full model is released, though given how low the percentage for top prospects are this draft I'm sure it just says "no chance" for almost everyone.
Now, finally, we can apply the predictive model to the draft prospects for the 2024 NBA Draft. First, we can get an overall idea of which players are most likely to be named All-Stars at least once by seeing the players with the greatest predicted probability. Using this model, Nikola Topic has the best chance of being an All-Star, although the model only gives him a 34% chance of it. This is pretty low compared to the players with the best chance of being All-Stars in past drafts. In fact, only the 2013, 2006, and 2004 drafts had a maximum predicted probability of being an All-Star lower than 50%, reinforcing the overall consensus that this year’s draft class is very weak, especially at the top. Still, Nikola Topic would be a high upside pick and possibly a bargain if his draft stock falls due to injury. The five players with the highest upside given by the model are Nikola Topic, Alex Sarr, Stephon Castle, Zaccharie Risacher, and Donovan Clingan.
I don't usually post much about draft models because i think most of them are really poorly done and don't use well justified assumptions (like 90% of them won't outperform age/competition adjusted BPM), but this one doesn't have those problems IMO (even though I'm not sure "makes the ASG" is a great target, it does tend to be something GMs think about when picking in the lottery). Hoping the full model is released, though given how low the percentage for top prospects are this draft I'm sure it just says "no chance" for almost everyone.
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Another notable feature is that Reed Sheppard seems to have a low chance of being an All-Star. This is because of he has a low value for PCA component 4, which is usually greatest for players with long wingspan, high usage, and inefficient scoring. Sheppard had a relatively low usage rate (18%), does not have outstanding physical attributes (6’3″ tall with a 6’3.25″ wingspan), and was one of the most efficient players in college basketball (68% eFG%), so it makes sense that he has a low PCA component 4 value.Sharp burying the lede how dare he
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All jokes aside, Knecht being where he is makes a lot of sense given his age and the fact that wings that do what he does are available every draft.
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By reilo Go To PostSharp burying the lede how dare heI didn't bury the lede, I coped about it by saying the model was low on Chet so maybe it just hates efficiency!
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By Sharp Go To PostI didn't bury the lede, I coped about it by saying the model was low on Chet so maybe it just hates efficiency!mmmhmm
I honestly think it comes down to that if you're not a Top 3 small PG in the NBA you're not making the ASG. The guard positions are too stacked.
And the gap between a top PG and not can be a chasm -- that doesn't mean that non-ASG PGs are not good it's just that those that make it are too good and it's a high bar to reach.
If Reed's ceiling is even Trae or Lillard that's a really really really high bar for a small PG.
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By reilo Go To PostmmmhmmIn all seriousness it looks like a pretty good model and basically confirms that this draft will probably suck for high end talent.
I honestly think it comes down to that if you're not a Top 3 small PG in the NBA you're not making the ASG. The guard positions are too stacked.Yeah, most likely.
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By reilo Go To PostI used to pray for times like this...
Poverty behaviors
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By DiPro Go To PostPorzingis suffered a recinumal disfiguration of the spectral tendinitis or something like that.You don't care about these finals but you're refreshing for Porzingis injury updates?
From what it sounds like this is a super weird injury so it's unlikely any non-specialists can give any coherent feedback, but my bet would be that he tries to come back this series if they haven't already ruled him out. Don't think it matters much either way considering they're already up 2-0.
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By Dark PhaZe Go To PostAdam pls help us
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By Kibner Go To PostIt's not on the same side and Twitter doctors are just pretending to know what they're talking about if they think they can make any credible statements here, the injury is incredibly rare and little is known about it (a bunch of these guys aren't even licensed doctors but whatever).
The cautious thing to do is to sit him out, but I have no doubt that the medical team is looking for more informed opinions considering that apparently someone completed a triathlon with this.