It's worse than the other photos I'd seen. Honestly I was ignorant about Nankling until today and fucking hell that took me to a dark place. Like actually had to take a break from work and go for a walk type thing.
Ah, Nanking is all sorts of fucked up. Japan was there for 6 weeks going absolutely insane.
Prince Yasuhiko Asaka never received any form of punishment for his involvement either...
Prince Yasuhiko Asaka never received any form of punishment for his involvement either...
Saw the death numbers and was just staggered. Felt so ignorant. Saw some of the Japanese commanders and soldiers got theirs but the country seems very reluctant to apologise.
Even the chapter in the World at War docu series about it doesn't go into the awful depths of the event (it does for the jewish genocide).
But yeah, the wiki article alone is chilling enough, and there's only small hints and quotes from first hand accounts both from victims and perpetrators. Some of the worst things you'll ever read.
But yeah, the wiki article alone is chilling enough, and there's only small hints and quotes from first hand accounts both from victims and perpetrators. Some of the worst things you'll ever read.
By Laboured Go To PostSaw the death numbers and was just staggered. Felt so ignorant. Saw some of the Japanese commanders and soldiers got theirs but the country seems very reluctant to apologise.Tens of thousands of rapes and hundreds of thousands of murders.
They literally had 2 soldiers racing to kill 100 Chinese people by sword and ran tallies of it
in the paper like a cricket match.
It was brutal
By DY_nasty Go To Postyeah im gonna need a stiff drink before i look at any of this
Yeah, you do. Hell on Earth stuff. Unit 731 stuff but applied to unwitting civlians.
Not sure any two nations have hated each other more than Japan and China. But fuck me that's altered my view on Japan some.
By Laboured Go To PostYeah, you do. Hell on Earth stuff. Worse than Unit 731 stuff but applied to unwitting civlians.Kinda hard to rank what was worse. I mean Nanking was wholesale slaughter but 731 was disguised as something good but turned out to be nightmare fuel.
731 was called the Epidemic Prevention and Water Purification Department and presented themselves as soldiers who wanted to help citizens.
Interesting fact about 731 was that it predated German experiments by almost a decade and was the inspiration for them
Yeah you're right and also bringing what was "worse" into genocide discussions is stupid shit so that's my bad.
By blackace Go To PostTens of thousands of rapes and hundreds of thousands of murders.
They literally had 2 soldiers racing to kill 100 Chinese people by sword and ran tallies of it
in the paper like a cricket match.
It was brutal
By Righteous Furry Go To PostThe Supernova In The East series of Hardcore History has an episode on Nanking iircYea it was fucking excellent. Highly recommend this series. Japan really made it out lucky because they got put in a microwave by America.
A day late, but always worth celebrating Cromwell's death. Man was a tyrant and ultimately responsible for the deaths of at least half a million Irish people.
By Lunatic Go To PostYea it was fucking excellent. Highly recommend this series. Japan really made it out lucky because they got put in a microwave by America.Naw, that's not even why. That's more how people feel now. tbh it's hard to tell if Japan played America or if America played itself. But Japan came out super well protected and regarded...
We gotta talk about some of the amazing post-war PR campaigns countries and factions have gotten away with.
Japan, Switzerland, American South, etc
Japan, Switzerland, American South, etc
Wonder what the Venn diagram is for present day Thatcherites and people who hold Cromwell in high regard
Man they really don’t teach history in America. In high school I got 95s so I thought I was good
I’m taking a post civil war history class and in my first paper, I have to write about Jim Crow laws. I knew the basics but never knew that the term grandfather originated here. I also had no idea how fucked up it was..
Why do we still use this term to say something like “I’m grandfathered in to my cell phone plan”
I’m taking a post civil war history class and in my first paper, I have to write about Jim Crow laws. I knew the basics but never knew that the term grandfather originated here. I also had no idea how fucked up it was..
Why do we still use this term to say something like “I’m grandfathered in to my cell phone plan”
By Old King Rob Go To PostMan they really don’t teach history in America. In high school I got 95s so I thought I was goodThere are a ton of phrases that have roots in slavery or Jim Crow that get used today.
I’m taking a post civil war history class and in my first paper, I have to write about Jim Crow laws. I knew the basics but never knew that the term grandfather originated here. I also had no idea how fucked up it was..
Why do we still use this term to say something like “I’m grandfathered in to my cell phone plan”
Stuff like "sold down the river", "cakewalk", and so on have racist roots.
Shit, don't get me started on nursery songs 😂
By DY_nasty Go To Postwar has changedTwittter fingers
Disagree
By Lupercal Go To PostLooks like your average 4chan user without the sword collection.functional is important
Besides drip so hard in the 7th century that people in 2022 still want to be you
By blackace Go To Postfunctional is importantHadn't thought of it like that, that's some transcending drip indeed.
Besides drip so hard in the 7th century that people in 2022 still want to be you
By Perfect Blue Go To Post
Was reading the article about it. Would love to visit, if they ever open it.
As Pintado sat in her garage, sifting through the papers, she found another document that was just as confounding as the doctor’s note. It was a birth certificate, which indicated that her mother had given birth to a girl in the Santa Cristina maternity clinic in Madrid. “Good appearance and vitality, good coloration,” a hospital staff member wrote. The paper was dated on Pintado’s birthday, July 10, 1973. There was even a room number: 22.
Pintado took a closer look at the birth certificate. She could see that someone had torn off the top third of the paper, leaving a jagged edge behind. Her birth certificate had been tampered with; there had been something here that someone wanted to hide. “I knew this couldn’t be my mother,” she told me. “And that’s when I thought, I might be a stolen baby.”
Pintado had long known about the phenomenon of babies stolen from hospitals in Spain. The thefts happened during the end of the regime of Francisco Franco, the right-wing dictator who ruled the country until 1975, and even today the disappearances remain a subject of mystery and debate among scholars. According to the birth mothers, nuns who worked in maternity wards took the infants shortly after they were delivered and told the women, who were often unwed or poor, that their children were stillborn. But the babies were not dead: They had been sold, discreetly, to well-off Catholic parents, many of whom could not have families of their own. Under a pile of forged papers, the adoptive families buried the secret of the crime they committed. The children who were taken were known in Spain simply as the “stolen babies.” No one knows exactly how many were kidnapped, but estimates suggest tens of thousands.https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/27/magazine/spain-stolen-babies.html
Jesus christ
Damn, there's probably so much cool shit on the ancient coastlines that're now permanently underwater
This too:
This too:
Any good documentary on the IRA/northern Ireland/vsEngland?
I've seen BBC's Who Won The War?. recommended
I've seen BBC's Who Won The War?. recommended
I knew we never taught history properly in America but I was watching some WW1 documentary last night. For starters, they never mentioned in my classes that Africa was part of WW1. They always made it seem like it was just the Europeans fighting each other until we jumped in to save the day.
Then this documentary got to all the African nations fighting, like German Cameroon fighting the Belgian Congo. This entire continent was just colonized European nations.
Obviously they left out the part where like 3 million people had already died when we joined the war. Imagine being in a boxing match for 11 rounds and then in the 12th round, prime Mike Tyson comes in.
Then this documentary got to all the African nations fighting, like German Cameroon fighting the Belgian Congo. This entire continent was just colonized European nations.
Obviously they left out the part where like 3 million people had already died when we joined the war. Imagine being in a boxing match for 11 rounds and then in the 12th round, prime Mike Tyson comes in.
tbf it's in the name.
Even in the highest tier of Dutch secondary eduction, the Great War is discussed pretty much as the prequel to the Second World War. While we did go on a school trip to Ypres, that's pretty much the scope of the First World War and classes never really ventured outside of Europe. The trench warfare in Flanders is literally and figuratively the closest thing to home, and what we've chosen to remember the war by. The assassination of Franz Ferdinand and fragmentation of Europe, the never before seen destruction on the stagnant Western Front, Dutch Neutrality, the Russian Revolution, the sinking of the Lusitania and US involvement in the war, and finally the Treaty of Versailles. The First World War in a nut shell and all a stepping stone for the League of Nations, Soviet Union, and the rise of fascism in Germany and Italy. Neatly leading us to WW2.
The Second World War is a much larger part of the curriculum and the material has more room to breathe and go in depth on certain topics. Most important of which the Holocaust. It too is mostly centred on Europe as well, but the Pacific Theatre is featured because of the Dutch colony of Indonesia (Indonesian independence is the next big topic chronologically).
Funnily enough, generally the first subject in most Humanities Studies such as History at Dutch universities is about Eurocentrism. Global History is often one of the first classes where a broader history of the world post 1492 is taught. One of its central points is that the world has, for millennia, been interconnected. Peoples and civilizations were far less isolated and stagnant as we'd like to believe. Or, more importantly, as we've been taught to believe. Trade, migration, and the exchange of ideas has always been a part of the human experience. The discovery of the Americas just made this go into overdrive. In addition, Edward Said's Orientalism is a fundamental piece of academic literature to illustrate our Eurocentric world views. Every history bachelor or other field in the humanities worth a damn will touch on Said.
Even in the highest tier of Dutch secondary eduction, the Great War is discussed pretty much as the prequel to the Second World War. While we did go on a school trip to Ypres, that's pretty much the scope of the First World War and classes never really ventured outside of Europe. The trench warfare in Flanders is literally and figuratively the closest thing to home, and what we've chosen to remember the war by. The assassination of Franz Ferdinand and fragmentation of Europe, the never before seen destruction on the stagnant Western Front, Dutch Neutrality, the Russian Revolution, the sinking of the Lusitania and US involvement in the war, and finally the Treaty of Versailles. The First World War in a nut shell and all a stepping stone for the League of Nations, Soviet Union, and the rise of fascism in Germany and Italy. Neatly leading us to WW2.
The Second World War is a much larger part of the curriculum and the material has more room to breathe and go in depth on certain topics. Most important of which the Holocaust. It too is mostly centred on Europe as well, but the Pacific Theatre is featured because of the Dutch colony of Indonesia (Indonesian independence is the next big topic chronologically).
Funnily enough, generally the first subject in most Humanities Studies such as History at Dutch universities is about Eurocentrism. Global History is often one of the first classes where a broader history of the world post 1492 is taught. One of its central points is that the world has, for millennia, been interconnected. Peoples and civilizations were far less isolated and stagnant as we'd like to believe. Or, more importantly, as we've been taught to believe. Trade, migration, and the exchange of ideas has always been a part of the human experience. The discovery of the Americas just made this go into overdrive. In addition, Edward Said's Orientalism is a fundamental piece of academic literature to illustrate our Eurocentric world views. Every history bachelor or other field in the humanities worth a damn will touch on Said.
WW1 is interesting because people were using mustard gas daily, but the Germans wanted to draw the line on shotguns😂
Operations Room / Intel Report are by far my favorite military history channels.
They recently just finished a back to back series on Iwo Jima and the Battle of the Bulge that puts a lot of TV productions the shame. Part of my nightly routine honestly and they've covered everything from the planning that went into the gulf wars air campaign to lesser known non-western efforts.
Just finished this up today actually. The other channel put together a six parter detailing not just the larger stuff but individuals from both sides and civilians in between.
Potential History is great for humor and generally lighter content of the same theme.
Because why not laugh when you can.
I'll think of some more channels later, just on another ww2 binge currently
Still a favorite
They recently just finished a back to back series on Iwo Jima and the Battle of the Bulge that puts a lot of TV productions the shame. Part of my nightly routine honestly and they've covered everything from the planning that went into the gulf wars air campaign to lesser known non-western efforts.
Just finished this up today actually. The other channel put together a six parter detailing not just the larger stuff but individuals from both sides and civilians in between.
Potential History is great for humor and generally lighter content of the same theme.
Because why not laugh when you can.
I'll think of some more channels later, just on another ww2 binge currently
Still a favorite