Draft: October 16th.
Free Agency: Maybe it's October 18th, but could be delayed?
Start of next season: Probably not happening on December 1st.
1. Minnesota
2. Golden State
3. Charlotte
4. Chicago
5. Cleveland
6. Atlanta
7. Detroit
8. New York
9. Washington
10. Phoenix
11. San Antonio
12. Sacramento
13. New Orleans
14. Boston (from Memphis)
15. Orlando
16. Portland
17. Minnesota (from Brooklyn via Atlanta)
18. Dallas
19. Brooklyn (from Philadelphia via LA Clippers)
20. Miami
21. Philadelphia (from Oklahoma City via Orlando and Philadelphia)
22. Denver (from Houston)
23. Utah
24. Milwaukee (from Indiana)
25. Oklahoma City (from Denver)
26. Boston
27. New York (from LA Clippers)
28. Los Angeles Lakers
29. Toronto
30. Boston (from Milwaukee via Phoenix)
Free Agency: Maybe it's October 18th, but could be delayed?
LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. – In team meetings and conversations at the ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex, the National Basketball Players Association has been preparing its membership for the likelihood that the start of free agency in mid-October could be pushed back several weeks, sources told ESPN.
Because of the uncertainty about next season's projected league revenues, a delay to the Oct. 18 start of free agency would give the NBA and NBPA a chance to better formulate the parameters of the 2020-21 salary-cap and luxury-tax thresholds.
Start of next season: Probably not happening on December 1st.
NBA commissioner Adam Silver said the league is likely to delay its previously planned Dec. 1 start for the 2020-21 season in the hope of getting paying fans back into arenas.
Though the NBA bubble environment in Lake Buena Vista, Florida, has been a success, Silver said the league is not focusing on reinstating another quarantined campus for next season.
"I'd say Dec. 1, now that we're working through this season, is feeling a little bit early to me," Silver told ESPN's Rachel Nichols before the NBA draft lottery on Thursday night.
Cole Anthony come on down.
By DY_nasty Go To PostEmbiid with Steph and em looks fun tbhLol wait what's the package for Embiid?
By masud Go To PostCole Anthony come on down.The sixers are dumb enough and desperate enough to talk themselves into Wiseman/Wiggins for embiid and financial mistakes
Lol wait what's the package for Embiid?
I will say it feels nice coming into a draft knowing you can still get a decent player and not have to hope for them to be your hopes and dreams as a franchise moving forward.
Stupidly frustrating to know that we maybe could have traded for porzingis in the 2017 draft instead of josh jackson, and/or drafted luka in 2018, and regardless of either of those could've had ja morant if we stayed at the number 2 spot in last years draft. Fucking Mcdonough.
Stupidly frustrating to know that we maybe could have traded for porzingis in the 2017 draft instead of josh jackson, and/or drafted luka in 2018, and regardless of either of those could've had ja morant if we stayed at the number 2 spot in last years draft. Fucking Mcdonough.
I think I want the Pels to hire one of Finch, Stackhouse, Ham, Hammon, or Atkinson for new head coach.
By DY_nasty Go To PostEmbiid with Steph and em looks fun tbhI kept seeing Ben.. Which would summon the ghost of Don Nelson
By DY_nasty Go To Postwhat
about
frank
you can never have too many 6' 5 French PGs
By unknown Go To PostWe gettin' Killian Hayes.I still don't know why The Ringer has this dude tops on their big board.
By rodeoclown Go To PostI still don't know why The Ringer has this dude tops on their big board.this is definitely the draft where you can get away with taking the guy with the coolest name
By rodeoclown Go To PostI still don't know why The Ringer has this dude tops on their big board.I've seen some mocks with him going to PHX which I wouldn't mind having him behind rubio
By DY_nasty Go To Postthis is definitely the draft where you can get away with taking the guy with the coolest nameDefinitely giving me Bender/Chriss draft vibes
By pkaz01 Go To PostThat can't shoot, in a shooters league, who needs lamelo when you can get french lonzolamelo can't shoot either.
By DY_nasty Go To Postthis is definitely the draft where you can get away with taking the guy with the coolest nameif only the Cavs would had took this strategy in 2013
By unknown Go To Postlamelo can't shoot either.ah that ruins my joke, I thought he could shoot smh
By pkaz01 Go To Postah that ruins my joke, I thought he could shoot smhbut the key is that doesn't stop him from shooting
By pkaz01 Go To Postah that ruins my joke, I thought he could shoot smhI dont know if anyone in this draft can actually shoot
By unknown Go To PostWe gettin' Killian Hayes.Not with Detroit picking right before us.
And Killian can shoot off the dribble he's just terrible with catch and shoot 3s.
By knux-future Go To Postgetting my maybe Wiggins will care about basketball now essay readyKnux gtfo, your team is still fighting valiantly...
edit: nvm carry on
By shun Go To Post2nd pick for Knicks 8th Pick + Mitchell RobinsonYou think they're trading Robinson to move up in this draft? Lol, Im not opposed to trading him (they gotta pay him after next season) but theres no point in trading good young players for draft assets, thats hustling backwards. If they trade Mitch its gonna be for a sure thing vet that helps them win sooner than later. I'd give up the 8th, the 27th and the mavs pick next season for that pick though.
Maybe I'd do the 27th pick and Mitch if we could pick up Lamelo and Okongwu.
https://nbadraft.theringer.com/
The Ringer put a ton of UI/UX work into their draft stuff this year--very interesting. Content looks pretty good too.
The Ringer put a ton of UI/UX work into their draft stuff this year--very interesting. Content looks pretty good too.
By masud Go To PostYou think they're trading Robinson to move up in this draft? Lol, Im not opposed to trading him (they gotta pay him after next season) but theres no point in trading good young players for draft assets, thats hustling backwards. If they trade Mitch its gonna be for a sure thing vet that helps them win sooner than later. I'd give up the 8th, the 27th and the mavs pick next season for that pick though.The question is... is he really that good? Be better to trade while his value is high.
Maybe I'd do the 27th pick and Mitch if we could pick up Lamelo and Okongwu.
Is he Whiteside or a Ben Wallace like late bloomer?
you won't be able to tell how good he is until he's on a team with a real defense
that's gonna dictate his whole value. as is, he's a more likeable javale mcgee but not even as good
that's gonna dictate his whole value. as is, he's a more likeable javale mcgee but not even as good
By blackace Go To PostThe question is… is he really that good? Be better to trade while his value is high.He's an elite rim runner and rim protector who's also switchable on the perimeter. If he played with regular (not even good) NBA spacing and passing this would not even be a question (be honest how many times have you even watched him play?)
Is he Whiteside or a Ben Wallace like late bloomer?
The problem is even if he's the best version of that archetype I'm not sure if I want to pay him what he's gonna command next off-season so I'm willing to move him in the right deal but facilitating an 8 to 2 pick swap in a bad draft ain't it. He would put up stupid numbers playing with Curry and Klay if I was the warriors I would take him and 27 and run.
It's hard for me to think Okongwu doesn't work in the NBA. Rim running, shot blocking, rebounding, all that stuff usually translates nicely. He's also a decent free throw shooter, which says he could develop some okay range.
By DY_nasty Go To Postokongwu is my guy if we stay at 3Jordan's gonna take Cole Anthony and I'm gonna be pissed (but not as much as you)
i had no idea bad deni's hands were
By masud Go To PostJordan's gonna take Cole Anthony and I'm gonna be pissed (but not as much as you)Cole is better than LaMelo so I'll live
By rodeoclown Go To PostIt's hard for me to think Okongwu doesn't work in the NBA. Rim running, shot blocking, rebounding, all that stuff usually translates nicely. He's also a decent free throw shooter, which says he could develop some okay range.Yes, a Noah Vonleh that doesn't eat boogers and sniff paint
By masud Go To PostHe's an elite rim runner and rim protector who's also switchable on the perimeter. If he played with regular (not even good) NBA spacing and passing this would not even be a question (be honest how many times have you even watched him play?)It's just weird that he didn't start nor play over 25 mins per game.
The problem is even if he's the best version of that archetype I'm not sure if I want to pay him what he's gonna command next off-season so I'm willing to move him in the right deal but facilitating an 8 to 2 pick swap in a bad draft ain't it. He would put up stupid numbers playing with Curry and Klay if I was the warriors I would take him and 27 and run.
By blackace Go To PostIt's just weird that he didn't start nor play over 25 mins per game.He's getting better but he's still kinda foul prone, he came off the bench to make sure he was available late in games, he played more minutes than Taj who started over him. It also didn't help that he couldn't really play with their best offensive player in Julius Randle, the paint was just too clogged.
By masud Go To PostYou think they're trading Robinson to move up in this draft? Lol, Im not opposed to trading him (they gotta pay him after next season) but theres no point in trading good young players for draft assets, thats hustling backwards. If they trade Mitch its gonna be for a sure thing vet that helps them win sooner than later. I'd give up the 8th, the 27th and the mavs pick next season for that pick though.
Maybe I'd do the 27th pick and Mitch if we could pick up Lamelo and Okongwu.
Yes, 2nd + filler for 8th + Robinson is more than fair. Take a look at this face and tell me he wants to go stay at the 8th pick and not get Wiseman or LaMelo.
Knicks in Knicks fashion will pay up more than they have to since the Knox ain't shit and you want a piece that fits RJ Barrett's timeline to get back into the playoffs.
The Knicks get a piece to help build upon until they get a free agent, the Dubs give up on potential for a big that can hang with how the league is played now. Potentially flip that + TPE or Wiggins into something better.
By unknown Go To PostMitch is staying with us. They hired payne for a reason.You can have Payne develop Wiseman.
By shun Go To PostFirst of all that's how Leon Rose looks all the time. This draft isn't gonna make or break them, my preference would actually be be to trade down to get more picks in the future. And the Knicks need a piece to build apon that fits Rjs timeline? You mean like Mitchell Robinson? Lastly if Roses first move is to deal Mitch in a trade that isn't a clear win for the Knicks the fanbase will burn the garden to the ground. There are no sure things in this draft hell Mitch might be worth the 2nd pick by himself.
Yes, 2nd + filler for 8th + Robinson is more than fair. Take a look at this face and tell me he wants to go stay at the 8th pick and not get Wiseman or LaMelo.
Knicks in Knicks fashion will pay up more than they have to since the Knox ain't shit and you want a piece that fits RJ Barrett's timeline to get back into the playoffs.
The Knicks get a piece to help build upon until they get a free agent, the Dubs give up on potential for a big that can hang with how the league is played now. Potentially flip that + TPE or Wiggins into something better.
Wiseman has a higher ceiling, and arguably a lower floor. You can sell Knicks fans on that koolaid to gamble on that length, athleticism, and potential for a dynamic PnR punch with Barrett and Wiseman. With Payne developing him it is more likely he hits his potential than his floor.
That is a better roadmap for the future than Barrett and Robinson.
Give me Robinson and the 8th to go package into something else. Or draft Okongwu or Okoro.
That is a better roadmap for the future than Barrett and Robinson.
Give me Robinson and the 8th to go package into something else. Or draft Okongwu or Okoro.
How can you possibly argue that a guy who has never played in the NBA could have a lower floor than a guy that's already good in the NBA? Wiseman could be Okafor for all we know. I'd much rather have RJ and Mitch and hope that the 8th pick pans out than just RJ and the hope that Wiseman pans out. You're trying to be slick, the only reason you're proposing this trade is because you know Mitch would be better for the Warriors than Wiseman right now, well guess what you're gonna have to pay for that cause no one is paying you for a big that hasn't shown that he can play defense or stretch the floor.
No shit. The only reason why this is proposed is to try and be slick with it. Otherwise why settle with Robinson if some disgruntled player wants out when the offseason begins.
Of course you can argue that a player has a lower floor than Robinson, because that is the reality with all the prospects in the draft right now. All of them can have a lower floor than an NBA role player and their ceiling being a star. Wiseman's closest comparison is more defensive Ayton.
Fans are never going to approach trades in good faith, only in a way that benefits them.
Of course you can argue that a player has a lower floor than Robinson, because that is the reality with all the prospects in the draft right now. All of them can have a lower floor than an NBA role player and their ceiling being a star. Wiseman's closest comparison is more defensive Ayton.
Fans are never going to approach trades in good faith, only in a way that benefits them.
Oops i mixed up higher floor and lower floor (Trying to watch the game and my one year old at the same time) of course Wiseman has a lower floor. Bottom line is the Knicks have no real reason to trade Robinson if you want him you have to make it worth their while. And asking the Knicks to use him to move up in a shitty draft (in terms of top end talent) is not gonna do it.
Would you trade the pick for the 8th 27th and the Mavs first next year though?
Would you trade the pick for the 8th 27th and the Mavs first next year though?
A lot can happen in 2 months. First people gotta hope that Philly gets swept, the Pacers get swept, and that the Heat body Giannis and the Bucks. Then it is open season on the trade market for multi-team trades and deals.
Ample opportunity to trade the 2nd pick, the 2021 Minny Pick, the 17m TPE, and Wiggins + other miscellaneous contracts.
Ample opportunity to trade the 2nd pick, the 2021 Minny Pick, the 17m TPE, and Wiggins + other miscellaneous contracts.
This obviously won't happen at all and I cannot imagine a scenario that this is possible even if the Bucks lose in the 2nd round and the Sixers get swept. Giannis is not happening, and Embiid won't either.
