I'm surprised there's no thread about this...
I'll be honest, from Diallou to Sean Bell, all the way down to Trayvon Martin and Eric Garner and everything in between, some of these cases were clear cut ruthless aggression, some murder, and some self defense. And almost all involved an actual policing body. But never have I seen something so absurdly racist as what I watched the other day. I try to be as impartial as possible with these sort of things, and this falls under the clear cut murder category in my mind. The fact that instead of calling the police while they followed him, they went and got an additional car to tail them, to record, and to also load their weapon says all there needs to be said.
They thought they were going to send would-be thieves a message to stay out of their neighborhood. Instead they used lethal force and thought they had the right to take matters into their own hands. Stand Your Ground doesn't apply here, as they seeked out their own vigilant justice and provoked the incident instead of letting the actual authorities handle the situation.
No question about any of this, but this was fueled by racism and these sick fucks deserve a prison sentence of 20 years minimum.
I'll be honest, from Diallou to Sean Bell, all the way down to Trayvon Martin and Eric Garner and everything in between, some of these cases were clear cut ruthless aggression, some murder, and some self defense. And almost all involved an actual policing body. But never have I seen something so absurdly racist as what I watched the other day. I try to be as impartial as possible with these sort of things, and this falls under the clear cut murder category in my mind. The fact that instead of calling the police while they followed him, they went and got an additional car to tail them, to record, and to also load their weapon says all there needs to be said.
They thought they were going to send would-be thieves a message to stay out of their neighborhood. Instead they used lethal force and thought they had the right to take matters into their own hands. Stand Your Ground doesn't apply here, as they seeked out their own vigilant justice and provoked the incident instead of letting the actual authorities handle the situation.
No question about any of this, but this was fueled by racism and these sick fucks deserve a prison sentence of 20 years minimum.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostI can’t believe the dad and son actually claimed self defense after they ran up on him.
You can’t? It’s worked for Zimmerman, though there was no video there
What makes these cases all the more f'ed is either no charges, minimum charges or a jury/judge that basically cosigns the killing.
By Smokey Go To PostNothing will happen. It's modern day lynching.
He'll be found guilty and be forgiven in court and the media will blow that up like the last time
By Smokey Go To PostNothing will happen. It's modern day lynching.
The sentencing should be:
25 years for father who killed him (I think he would effectively die in prison)
5 years for his son as an accessory to a crime + obstruction (did any of the shots come from his gun?)
1 year to neighbor following and recording for obstruction (this would most likely end up being a probation sentence though)
My other question is: how did this video leak? Who was aware of its existence? Did the police know and choose to ignore it?
Edit: Just re-checked the story, and yeah, 25 years for the son too. He shot and hit Arbery with his gun, as well.
We still focusing on the shooters instead of the people who looked the other way and buried this? Oh okay
not that it makes you any less likely to get shot, but i've always been specifically afraid of something like this (or similar) happening so on the rare occasion i do jog i do it at a track/field
i've been rolled up on in neighborhoods too many times
idk how you look at this video and be like "yeah we're gonna bury this and let them ride off scot free w/ no process" unless youre a racist also
i've been rolled up on in neighborhoods too many times
idk how you look at this video and be like "yeah we're gonna bury this and let them ride off scot free w/ no process" unless youre a racist also
By DY_nasty Go To PostWe still focusing on the shooters instead of the people who looked the other way and buried this? Oh okay
That's my question in the last post...who knew of this video's existence?
The DA, first responders, etc. People think you can just stash this stuff under a desk instead of working your ass off to make it a non issue still for whatever reason... Whole argument is fucked up. Don't know how many times we gotta go in the same circles with crying family, focus on the victim (no angel btw) and shooter, and ignore how the worse that happens to investigators and DAs is an asterisk on their record, if that, before they transition to private practice 😂
Yes, let's get these individual racists off the street with the same energy since the early 90s on repeat. I'm more tired of the played out reaction than the shootings themselves.
Yes, let's get these individual racists off the street with the same energy since the early 90s on repeat. I'm more tired of the played out reaction than the shootings themselves.
By Pac-12 Go To PostBut Kaep can't take a knee.man fuck him too
only reason dude is even a thing is because people think a dialogue is necessary or something when all it does is tread social waters creatively like synchronized swimming.
By DY_nasty Go To Postman fuck him too
But [insert any minority athlete ever] can't take a knee.
By Pac-12 Go To PostBut [insert any minority athlete ever] can't take a knee.did any of that shit matter lol
all it did was generate fake fucks for people to give
In these uncertain times that the commercials always remind us of, it's nice to know DY still hates everything.
By Pac-12 Go To PostIn these uncertain times that the commercials always remind us of, it's nice to know DY still hates everything.
Somehow he doesn't hate FF7R dialog.
yeah can't wait. raise more awareness and call for more justice. sell some shirts and protest. get those ally pins out and tell your black friend you're there for them. hold a protest asking the same institutions - that are clearly working as intended - to change. oh and this is just an american issue ofc.
but im trippin for advocating self defense and moving different tho.
word.
but im trippin for advocating self defense and moving different tho.
word.
By DY_nasty Go To Postbut im trippin for advocating self defense and moving different tho.
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On serious note, I've been on this kick for a while now. I get the arguments against this though. No way black people could be doing these state government protests armed.
Very sad and it's even sadder to think there's an actual realistic possibility that they're barely going to be punished
And how this remained secret or hidden away since February who knows
And how this remained secret or hidden away since February who knows
By FootbalIFan Go To PostVery sad and it's even sadder to think there's an actual realistic possibility that they're barely going to be punished
And how this remained secret or hidden away since February who knows
Who knows? This is America, he's black, and it's Georgia.
If that were my family I would have waited a few months and set their house on fire at 3:30am, that father and son would have to die over this.
Leaving this up to the justice system is just a future L.
Leaving this up to the justice system is just a future L.
By You got 14 bricks right there? Go To PostIf that were my family I would have waited a few months and set their house on fire at 3:30am, that father and son would have to die over this.I just hope this ain't another case where we get to watch someone forgive or hug their child's killer...
Leaving this up to the justice system is just a future L.
Hopefully family members won't be giving these dudes hugs and telling the world they forgive them...
By DY_nasty Go To PostI just hope this ain't another case where we get to watch someone forgive or hug their child's killer…lol read my mind
By Laboured Go To PostThe intersection of race violence and Christianity is - oh let's say - it's interesting.Lighting the cross is lighting the way for Jesus.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/07/ahmaud-arbery-killing-man-called-911-report-black-male-running-shooting?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
In one call, made at 1.14pm, the dispatcher asks for the address and the reason for the call. An unidentified man’s voice can be heard responding, “Uh, I’m out here at Satilla Shores. There’s a black male running down the street,” in an apparent reference Arbery.
The caller then says, “He’s running right now, and there he goes right now,” referring to Arbery, who was taking his usual jog around the neighborhood. The dispatcher asks: “OK, what is he doing?” The caller replies: “He’s running down the street.”
A few second later, the dispatcher says: “I just need to know what he was doing wrong. Was he just on the premises and not supposed to be?”
By diehard Go To PostThis was shit was a straight up lynching and i hope there is an extreme price to pay for all involvedProbably not their first time either considering how comfortable they are riding around with hot shotguns, hopping out the back like that's the fun part.
This is also the illegal shit they got away with while caught on camera.
The father was a cop and inspector, imagine all the things be must have done his career to make black people's life miserable through legal means.
The father was a cop and inspector, imagine all the things be must have done his career to make black people's life miserable through legal means.
Also looks like they finally got arrested but their odds of facing time is still close to zero:
Gregory McMichael and Travis McMichael were arrested in connection with the shooting of Mr. Arbery, which had led to protests in Georgia.
By reilo Go To PostThis is also the illegal shit they got away with while caught on camera.odds they check his history?
The father was a cop and inspector, imagine all the things be must have done his career to make black people's life miserable through legal means.
more likely Georgia reactively introduces a law that you cannot check a former cop's history lol
Has the media released tidbits like Ahmoud Arbery smoked weed when he was 15, or his father went to jail in the standard way to slowly erode public sympathy yet?
By blackace Go To PostHas the media released tidbits like Ahmoud Arbery smoked weed when he was 15, or his father went to jail in the standard way to slowly erode public sympathy yet?
Don't be impatient.
By blackace Go To PostHas the media released tidbits like Ahmoud Arbery smoked weed when he was 15, or his father went to jail in the standard way to slowly erode public sympathy yet?Depends if you want to call Andy Ngo media or not
Andy Ngo is a real special piece of shit who assisted in Proud Boy/Patriot Prayer bullshit and lied about brain damage from being pelted with a milkshake after he doxxed some people.
By blackace Go To PostHas the media released tidbits like Ahmoud Arbery smoked weed when he was 15, or his father went to jail in the standard way to slowly erode public sympathy yet?Think that only happens if the people who did it ever get arrested
By FortuneFaded Go To PostDepends if you want to call Andy Ngo media or notRidiculous, let's go extreme and say he commited 20 armed robberies + multiple assault charges in his past, and was just released from a 15 year sentence.
Or let's say he had a completely clean record, did volunteer work and was a school teacher like WoodenLung
What would that have anything to do with him running and getting murdered
Maybe I am naive but just seems so irrelevant. Just don't like the angle it takes, it's implying his murder was justified, without actually saying it directly
By FootbalIFan Go To PostMaybe I am naive but just seems so irrelevant. Just don't like the angle it takes, it's implying his murder was justified, without actually saying it directly👇🏿
By blackace Go To PostHas the media released tidbits like Ahmoud Arbery smoked weed when he was 15, or his father went to jail in the standard way to slowly erode public sympathy yet?