By i can get you a toe Go To PostEh much as I wasn't gung ho about Bernie it wasn't hard to see the MSM slant against him and general softball shit for Biden.That has nothing to do with the statements we made. Working the media is part of campaigning.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostFor whatever reason people seem to forget that the RNC in 2015 and 2016 pushed literally everyone at one point, over Trump lol. And the dude still ate all comers and made the party his. Bernie hasn't been able to do that.It's the threat to the cashflow. Whatever your party, that's the harder battle. Plutocrats eatin' under Trump same as any other non-Bernie politician.
By reilo Go To PostThat has nothing to do with the statements we made. Working the media is part of campaigning.Oh come the fuck on with that. The same media that's owned by the people intimidated by the shit Bernie was running on? The same media kissing establishment dem ass?
By i can get you a toe Go To PostOh come the fuck on with that. The same media that's owned by the people intimidated by the shit Bernie was running on? The same media kissing establishment dem ass?I forget all those passes Hillary got from the media as an establishment Dem over her emails 🙄
the whole bernie bros thing has always seemed to me like an attempt at turning perception against bernie
By reilo Go To PostI forget all those passes Hillary got from the media as an establishment Dem over her emails 🙄Comparing Hillary vs Trump (or any GOP really) to an establishment dem vs Bernie isn't apt and you know it. Straw everywhere.
By DY_nasty Go To PostThe RNC had a desperation that the democrats haven't had to face in decades though. They ran with anyone with momentum. Shit, they were ready to fall in behind Ben Carson at one point. The democrats still think they have the luxury of primarying out their own right now when they can't even beat a reality TV star. Biden's only popularity comes from being tied at the hip to Obama and being labeled the person with the best chance to beat Trump. There's no 'love' there. And people have to vote for someone.RNC was desperate because they didn't want Trump to win lol. As for why Biden is popular... who knows, that's a difficult question. Even more difficult is asking if that popularity is "genuine".
And saying Clinton being 'one of the most popular politicians in the US' is telling on yourself m8 lol
By i can get you a toe Go To PostComparing Hillary vs Trump to an establishment dem vs Bernie isn't apt and you know it. Straw everywhere.That's your problem when you make sweeping statements about what the media does and doesn't do. It's still part of campaigning. Bernie didn't give a fuck appealing to anyone besides his base. The result was the same.
By Yurt Kojima Go To Postgranted I only know the guy on TV but Bernie seems like a genuinely good man, shame.Twitterverse somehow can't still comprehend people voting against Hillary because she's a categorically worse human than Trump.
are Bernie bros really that big of a % of his base? None of the people I know who backed Bernie would do something like vote for Trump out of spite. They all voted for Hilary
There's a big difference between someone talking shit and them actually effecting your life.
By reilo Go To PostThat has nothing to do with the statements we made. Working the media is part of campaigning.lol you ain't gotta do this.
they were putting the heavy tint on bernie after the heart attack making breh look like a balloon animal, calling him anti-Semitic, and saying he was bringing ww2 nazi energy. that's not campaigning. meanwhile biden talking about cornpop and "i believe him yo"
Yeah I don't think you get more fucked up than trying to slant Bernie as anti-semitic but they tried.
But sure, his campaigning was a problem, how dare he just not spin that one to his advantage. FFS.
But sure, his campaigning was a problem, how dare he just not spin that one to his advantage. FFS.
By Laboured Go To PostYou have to appreciate the gall tbf.with Donny's commie pals and socialist policies they will feel right at home
having to choose between one of those two, I am glad we have a different political system and more choice.
i never wanted or believed bernie could win, i just thought that - since the dems have basically no chance - he'd be the best way for them to manage an L
now we're having to justify zombie biden, address the rampant capitulation over key issues in the party, and deal with more internal alienation. pretending the media didn't have it out for a LOT of candidates is problem. it'd be one thing if it was biden saying shit directly but we stopped playing those games years ago. all of these outlets have dogs in the fight (like why was kamala ever a thing?) no need to be obtuse about it.
now we're having to justify zombie biden, address the rampant capitulation over key issues in the party, and deal with more internal alienation. pretending the media didn't have it out for a LOT of candidates is problem. it'd be one thing if it was biden saying shit directly but we stopped playing those games years ago. all of these outlets have dogs in the fight (like why was kamala ever a thing?) no need to be obtuse about it.
I don't know if yall don't watch the news or these interviews, or what, but this isn't conspiracy. Plenty of people have been on air, talking about how these journalists have been pushing Biden, from the jump, instead of doing their damn jobs. It's the exact shit Dy is talking about. When is someone going to call him out, about his unsustainable ass views, on healthcare, when people have to coin flip whether their loved ones will die, because there isn't enough medical equipment. But it's Bernie bros.
The man can be "loved," but also get the largest political handout ever. Bernie ran a shit campaign, again, but that doesn't mean that journalists weren't telling people, "who remembers what people voted for, 5 minutes ago." It's not a single issue situation.
More to the point. For the, "we're better than you, in terms of morality" party, they sure as shit lost that high horse this go around.
Here we are, yet again, trying to court a group of voters who don't give a single fuck about the constituents that actually make up the party.
The man can be "loved," but also get the largest political handout ever. Bernie ran a shit campaign, again, but that doesn't mean that journalists weren't telling people, "who remembers what people voted for, 5 minutes ago." It's not a single issue situation.
More to the point. For the, "we're better than you, in terms of morality" party, they sure as shit lost that high horse this go around.
Here we are, yet again, trying to court a group of voters who don't give a single fuck about the constituents that actually make up the party.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostThis is such a strange way at looking at things. The right literally tries to weaponize everything, who gives a shit.
Our party unity, clearly. Unless you think the wedge is most hyperbole. Which I’m open too. I believe more Bernie voters voted for Clinton, than Clinton voters did for Obama
I'll just say it again, you don't get more clearly fucked up than the media trying to blast the Jewish man who lost fam in the Holocaust with antisemitic smearing. For whose benefit is that. And trying to ensure an establishment dem wins the primary over the more leftist option is obviously something big corporate media owners are gonna push, been like that for a while now. How they push dems vs gop or just continually go for sensationalism is also its own thing. But it's pretty fucking obvious Bernie made a bunch of wealthy people scared.
flashbacks to people saying "trump was just playing it up to get elected, he'll do much better when he's at the white house"
By Not Go To PostWell, whatever the fuck. We may not be able to take the White House until the hypothetical youth vote ages a bit, but we can primary the shit out of every district we can in 2022. More grassroots activism, more leftists in the House, maybe even the Senate. Get some true anti-capitalists in power.
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Now you’re getting it!
And Bernie wouldn't have even been a thing if Warren had just kept he ball rolling. We all knew she would blow it too but having her votes scatter into the wind after losing momentum to Bernie when things got tense? LOL
Same media that was asking if Bernie could survive a debate after a heart attack is out here making stuttering excuses for Joe like he hasn't been popping shit against the very same things they claim to want now for the majority of his political career with maximum vigor and clarity.
Dude is falling apart on stage and ready to throw hands with people at town halls between awkward smooches. 'Electability' is a truly precious descriptor.
no more upstarts. we gud apparently
By EldritchTrapStar Go To PostI don't know if yall don't watch the news or these interviews, or what, but this isn't conspiracy. Plenty of people have been on air, talking about how these journalists have been pushing Biden, from the jump, instead of doing their damn jobs. It's the exact shit Dy is talking about. When is someone going to call him out, about his unsustainable ass views, on healthcare, when people have to coin flip whether their loved ones will die, because there isn't enough medical equipment. But it's Bernie bros.
The man can be "loved," but also get the largest political handout ever. Bernie ran a shit campaign, again, but that doesn't mean that journalists weren't telling people, "who remembers what people voted for, 5 minutes ago." It's not a single issue situation.
More to the point. For the, "we're better than you, in terms of morality" party, they sure as shit lost that high horse this go around.
Here we are, yet again, trying to court a group of voters who don't give a single fuck about the constituents that actually make up the party.
Same media that was asking if Bernie could survive a debate after a heart attack is out here making stuttering excuses for Joe like he hasn't been popping shit against the very same things they claim to want now for the majority of his political career with maximum vigor and clarity.
Dude is falling apart on stage and ready to throw hands with people at town halls between awkward smooches. 'Electability' is a truly precious descriptor.
By Fenderputty Go To PostNow you’re getting it!Except Nancy is tired of that shit lmao
no more upstarts. we gud apparently
By i can get you a toe Go To PostI'll just say it again, you don't get more clearly fucked up than the media trying to blast the Jewish man who lost fam in the Holocaust with antisemitic smearing. For whose benefit is that. And trying to ensure an establishment dem wins the primary over the more leftist option is obviously something big corporate media owners are gonna push, been like that for a while now. How they push dems vs gop or just continually go for sensationalism is also its own thing. But it's pretty fucking obvious Bernie made a bunch of wealthy people scared.
Most of the people driving this smear are right wing hard core jews. Shapiro, Mendel etc etc
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Biden could drool for 4 year, seat RGB’s replacement and it was worth it
By Xpike Go To Postflashbacks to people saying "trump was just playing it up to get elected, he'll do much better when he's at the white house"
Biden could drool for 4 year, seat RGB’s replacement and it was worth it
By Fenderputty Go To PostMost of the people driving this smear are right wing hard core jews. Shapiro, Mendel etc etcChuck Todd and some of the other moderators were doing this
By Fenderputty Go To PostBiden could drool for 4 year, seat RGB’s replacement and it was worth itdifference between the RNC and the DNC is that they stopped caring about getting 'their guy' in to make that happen.
Must be nice tbh
By DY_nasty Go To Postdifference between the RNC and the DNC is that they stopped caring about getting 'their guy' in to make that happen.
Must be nice tbh
RNC didn't have a choice. Had Bernie courted moderates some as the front runner instead of giving Castro props while Warren was destroying Bloomberg, he might not be backing our right now.
By Fenderputty Go To PostRNC didn't have a choice. Had Bernie courted moderates some as the front runner instead of giving Castro props while Warren was destroying Bloomberg, he might not be backing our right now.The republicans absolutely had a choice. Ted Cruz was the guy until he wasn't lol. They even went so far as to have Romney and Paul Ryan kiss the ring of a literal clown once they saw what was potentially there.
They just didn't play favorites and stack the deck against all common sense - then snuck out a victory due to democrat hubris.
Even if Trump lost, they would've been sitting pretty going into 2020. The GOP was on our neck bro
By DY_nasty Go To PostThe republicans absolutely had a choice. Ted Cruz was the guy until he wasn't lol. They even went so far as to have Romney and Paul Ryan kiss the ring of a literal clown once they saw what was potentially there.
They just didn't play favorites and stack the deck against all common sense - then snuck out a victory due to democrat hubris.
Even if Trump lost, they would've been sitting pretty going into 2020. The GOP was on our neck bro
If Clinton won, I firmly believe we would have got smashed in 2018 and in 2020.
The platitude "GOP falls in line Dems fall in love" exits. Soooooooo many never Trumpers came home. Very few of them stayed true. When the base went the party did to.
By DY_nasty Go To PostAnd Lester Holt's bullshit lol
"Our latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released yesterday -- two-thirds of all voters said they were uncomfortable with a socialist candidate for president. What do you say to those voters, sir?" Holt asked.But Bernie just no good at courting the mediaaaaaaaaaaaa.
God, Chuck Todd's "I'm just asking questions! Its kinda like Hitler and the brown shirts... Im just saying we should talk about it. not my words, but yo, this is a problem..." clip is truly sensational
Chuck Todd the same kind of asshole who sees Socialist or Democratic in a nation's title and takes it at face value. But these clowns get to have shows and generally try to focus narratives. Then we're all playing like it's "news" and not top down directed propaganda to sell to people.
You can still vote for Bernie on the ballot, if your state hasn't yet. Hope he keeps getting delegates to hold at least a little sway over the platform. Still pretty sure the Dems put way more energy into beating him than they're gonna put into beating Donnie, so we'll see how much good it does
I think the DNC's chief priority now is moving the Overton window back to the Obama era and prior, not winning the election. It's not like they're itching to get Biden to verbally weigh in on his own platform any time soon. Every fuckup from now on is going be blamed on Leftists, whom they ignore and ridicule, not falling in line behind their weak shit
I think the DNC's chief priority now is moving the Overton window back to the Obama era and prior, not winning the election. It's not like they're itching to get Biden to verbally weigh in on his own platform any time soon. Every fuckup from now on is going be blamed on Leftists, whom they ignore and ridicule, not falling in line behind their weak shit
By Not Go To PostI think the DNC's chief priority now is moving the Overton window back to the Obama era and prior, not winning the election. It's not like they're itching to get Biden to verbally weigh in on his own platform any time soon. Every fuckup from now on is going be blamed on Leftists, whom they ignore and ridicule, not falling in line behind their weak shit
Simply amazing.
By i can get you a toe Go To PostIt's cute we're presuming Biden even knows what's going on.
We are?
Biden doesn't need my help getting California's electoral votes. Gonna vote for ever non-rapist Dem down the ballot
Man what a shitty morning
Man what a shitty morning
By Fenderputty Go To PostBiden could drool for 4 year, seat RGB’s replacement and it was worth itWhoever wins in November, this is guaranteed to be someone who thinks Citizens United is as American as apple pie
By Not Go To PostWhoever wins in November, this is guaranteed to be someone who thinks Citizens United is as American as apple pie
Because that’s the only issue the supreme court decides. That’s also a done issue. Ask conservatives how easy it’s been stopping Roe. 💯 they put more effort into the game than liberals do to
By Not Go To PostI think the DNC's chief priority now is moving the Overton window back to the Obama era and prior, not winning the election.Huh? Is this current Democratic Party not more left than the Obama era and prior?
By DY_nasty Go To PostJoe/Liz is gonna hurt. ;_;
How about the Michigan Gov?
By Perfect Blue Go To PostHuh? Is this current Democratic Party not more left than the Obama era and prior?Only the newcomers are and the established Dems have been doing all they can to lessen their influence.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostHuh? Is this current Democratic Party not more left than the Obama era and prior?
By Kibner Go To PostOnly the newcomers are and the established Dems have been doing all they can to lessen their influence.
By i can get you a toe Go To PostI don't get it. So y'all think Obama and that administration are MORE left than Democrats in 2020?
By Kibner Go To PostOnly the newcomers are and the established Dems have been doing all they can to lessen their influence.
The entire democratic platform is more liberal