By Yurtlicious Go To Postwhy of course, I believe in you.
You shouldn’t, Eden runs can be absolute hell since the starting stats and items are random each run.
By JesalR Go To PostThe idea of WB selling for billions after Sony got Insomniac for $250m and Microsoft got deals on much more interesting devs tooYeah, to this point, Microsoft's buyouts have been deals on smaller teams and distressed assets. The only studio they likely paid freight for was Playground. If they're in this, it's because they think they can pry away Rocksteady, NRS and Monolith for a bargain.
NRS is the only interesting studio, MS would do well with a fighting game dev, and there aren't any other good choices outside of japan
plus mk x ki would own
plus mk x ki would own
By toku Go To PostMS grabs Monolith and ther revive NOLF for next gen.Supposedly the rights to NOLF are tied up between Activision and Fox. You do get the rest of the Monolith catalog, though? How about a new Condemned?
By bud Go To Postbatman would be a huge get for microsoft.but they wouldn't get batman.
it'd be their answer to spider-man.
Would any publisher actually buy WB Montreal, though? It's expensive to run a big studio that never ships games.
They wouldn't get Batman, but they'd likely make a deal for Batman. Sony doesn't have the Spidey license either, still got the exclusive
By Dipro Go To Postbut they wouldn't get batman.Isn't Batman apart of WB? It was last month
By JesalR Go To PostThe idea of WB selling for billions after Sony got Insomniac for $250m and Microsoft got deals on much more interesting devs tooyou buy studios for IPs way more than for their talent. they don't have any big ones and are a flop machine outside of their sony work.
By blackace Go To PostIsn't Batman apart of WB? It was last monththey wouldn't be buying WB.
"But the future of the Spider-Man console games is with Sony and Insomniac. We're delighted about this partnership, and that's something that's going to continue forward.
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2016-06-15-spider-man-leads-marvels-epic-new-console-strategy
can't find anything on the actual length of this agreement, but this doesn't sound like it's going to end anytime soon.
By JesalR Go To PostThey wouldn't get Batman, but they'd likely make a deal for Batman. Sony doesn't have the Spidey license either, still got the exclusiveyeah but why would WB sell the batman license to just MS and why would MS spend so much on WB Studios and then spend even more on Batman? they don't sell nearly as much to make it work.
there's history with Sony and Disney for Spidey, that deal is easier to make.
By blackace Go To PostIsn't Batman apart of WB? It was last monthIt's just WB Games that Warner wants to unload. WB Montreal is making a Batman Court of Owls game, but if somebody bought that studio, they'd have to cut a deal for the Batman license to at least ship that one game. It's supposedly pretty deep in development.
By blackace Go To PostIsn't Batman apart of WB? It was last monthYes, WB. They're not selling WB though and just WB Interactive.
From the initial news that didn't include MS.
Many of the video game titles within Warner Bros. Interactive are tied to Warner-owned intellectual property, including “Harry Potter,” “Game of Thrones” and “The Lego Movie.” A deal might involve a commercial licensing agreement where AT&T can continue to get revenue from its IP.So additional costs.
I don't think I've ever seen a huge deal like that on the horizon that is so freaking complex and costly.
By Dipro Go To Postthey wouldn't be buying WB.They seemed attached to buying them, don't know why they would… a few 1st party properties like Batman and HP would probably be worth the price for a company like MS
By rodeoclown Go To PostIt's just WB Games that Warner wants to unload. WB Montreal is making a Batman Court of Owls game, but if somebody bought that studio, they'd have to cut a deal for the Batman license to at least ship that one game. It's supposedly pretty deep in development.yup you pay twice for that one game and then have to continue to pay in order to make batman games for forever or have the studio come up with a new IP which they haven't proven that they can.
what you want is NRS and Mortal Kombat.
By Pennywise Go To PostYes, WB. They're not selling WB though and just WB Interactive.
From the initial news that didn't include MS.
So additional costs.
I don't think I've ever seen a huge deal like that on the horizon that is so freaking complex and costly.
this is basically what's being reported everywhere I have seen
If Microsoft comes out on top, its acquisition of the Warner Bros. games division will provide it with a variety of reputable intellectual properties, including Batman and Harry Potter.
By Dipro Go To Postyeah but why would WB sell the batman license to just MS and why would MS spend so much on WB Studios and then spend even more on Batman? they don't sell nearly as much to make it work.I'm not saying they'd buy Batman, I'm saying they'd be in a prime position to license it. There would be at least some working relationship for MS if they had already done a deal with WB for the studios. Hell, they might even be able to put licensing in the purchase deal.
there's history with Sony and Disney for Spidey, that deal is easier to make.
Let's not forget Sony's history with Disney wasn't exactly a good one.
By Dipro Go To Postyou buy studios for IPs way more than for their talent. they don't have any big ones and are a flop machine outside of their sony work.Sure, but outside of MK, what IPs would the WBI purchase actually come with that anyone gives a shit about?
you can do licensing deals without spending 4 billions on mostly useless studios.
nintendo just licensed a marvel game (with spidey!) last year.
nintendo just licensed a marvel game (with spidey!) last year.
By JesalR Go To PostSure, but outside of MK, what IPs would the WBI purchase actually come with that anyone gives a shit about?nothing, that's why i don't think anyone's biting.
By Dipro Go To Postnothing, that's why i don't think anyone's biting.Which was my original point, the idea of buying those studios for the reported price in the billions is insane (and I don't think anyone will)
By Dipro Go To Postyou can do licensing deals without spending 4 billions on mostly useless studios.Right, but there's a difference when the license holder is actively trying to shed their studios. They're not going to make deals for the licenses that bring them in any money while still being weighed down by the cost of studios that wouldn't make them shit anymore.
nintendo just licensed a marvel game last year.
By blackace Go To Postthis is basically what's being reported everywhere I have seenHmm okay.
https://venturebeat.com/2020/06/13/att-is-offering-warner-bros-game-division-for-sale/
That was the initial report with sources familiar with it, this is the interesting part.
CNBC said the price could be about $4 billion. But one of my sources said the price offered was $2 billion. A major game company said it was not interested in the purchase because WBIE only intermittently makes money, and it does not own some of the major franchises that are at the core of its major games. It does not, for instance, own the Harry Potter license, as it is not clear if author J.K. Rowling would approve a transfer of the license from Warner Bros. to another game company. Nor does it own the DC Comics property, which the Batman Arkham and Injustice franchises use.
By data Go To PostHow many modern day gamers really give a shit about LOTR? I'd wager not that manythose two big mordor games sold well. there's still money in that franchise.
WB's licenses are a bit weird. They own the rights to Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings, but only as films. They can absolutely sell the rights to make games based on the HP movies. Before they had studios of their own, they licensed the rights to EA to make LotR movie games.
By Pennywise Go To PostHmm okay.then what would they be buying ? 😂
https://venturebeat.com/2020/06/13/att-is-offering-warner-bros-game-division-for-sale/
That was the initial report with sources familiar with it, this is the interesting part.
That's probably what is holding it up. I Imagine they are trying to get those properties
By blackace Go To Postthen what would they be buying ? 😂the devs and mortal kombat.
By rodeoclown Go To PostWB's licenses are a bit weird. They own the rights to Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings, but only as films. They can absolutely sell the rights to make games based on the HP movies. Before they had studios of their own, they licensed the rights to EA to make LotR movie games.I remember talking about this exact point here
By Dipro Go To Postthose two big mordor games sold well. there's still money in that franchise.Is that because they're LOTR games or because they're Batman/Assassin's Creed hybrids? It's not like those games respect the LOTR lore
By data Go To PostIs that because they're LOTR games or because they're Batman/Assassin's Creed hybrids? It's not like those games respect the LOTR loreLOTR gets people to pay attention. convinced they wouldn't have sold nearly as much without the license.
By blackace Go To Postthen what would they be buying ? 😂As I said earlier.
That's probably what is holding it up. I Imagine they are trying to get those properties
MS would make the least sense. They would close more than half of the studios that are mobile devs, the publishing arm would also be reduced dramatically. All the hassle for a fighting game and maybe two studios and some license agreements?
Can see Activision, EA and Take Two being interested, since they've been bleeding talent and they've got their own mobile arm.
It's a shitload of work, alot of money and more work for those license agreements. Imagine EA handling another LOTR game.
By Pennywise Go To PostAs I said earlier.Not even Take Two, EA or Activision want all that fluff, man. Nobody is going to outright buy the whole division.
MS would make the least sense. They would close more than half of the studios that are mobile devs, the publishing arm would also be reduced dramatically. All the hassle for a fighting game and maybe two studios and some license agreements?
Can see Activision, EA and Take Two being interested, since they've been bleeding talent and they've got their own mobile arm.
It's a shitload of work, alot of money and more work for those license agreements. Imagine EA handling another LOTR game.
even if they attach the licenses, which would be a clusterfuck, they would want their stuff on as many platforms as possible and not just Xbox and PC.
i could see MS be interested in NRS and Mortal Kombat, that would be great fit with their american focus.
By Dipro Go To Posteven if they attach the licenses, which would be a clusterfuck, they would want their stuff on as many platforms as possible and not just Xbox and PC.4 billion dollars is alot of money plus getting paid from PC/Xbox sales?
By Dipro Go To Posti could see MS be interested in NRS and Mortal Kombat, that would be great fit with their american focus.I think they'd likely want Monolith and Rocksteady, too, since it's way cheaper than starting new AAA teams from scratch. Even if they have to put up with releasing a Suicide Squad game first.
lol I think the only part I care about is someone utilizing the nemesis system again
By data Go To PostHow's Morrowind hold up?Bethesda games don't even hold up on release man
I don't want to have to fuck around with mods
By Dipro Go To Posti could see MS be interested in NRS and Mortal Kombat, that would be great fit with their american focus.What? Mortal Kombat is huge worldwide, it's probably the best selling fighting game franchise after Smash this days.
And there's the movie coming out next year.
Wasn't Sony's Spider Man situation largely predicated on their movie studio deal? Or was that only conjecture?
By data Go To PostHow's Morrowind hold up?
I don't want to have to fuck around with mods
Just play Skyrim, it scratches the same itch.