Politics | 2019 | The Battle To Become The Next El Presidente
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By MushForBrains Go To PostThen it should he rectified and own up to it. I love how any misstep Bernie does becomes a death nail in his campaign, so much so that you got centrists holding hands with the far right.Accountability isn't a death nail man lol
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The problem with these far left types more than anything is that they're operating as if they DONT have to answer these types of questions. Take Warren for example - she doesn't have the best plans ever all the time but at least they're actual tangible plans. Not wishlists or "the people will make it so" or "I would totally do this but I can't right now but trust me okay"
That type of stuff is only good enough to convince the people who are already subscribed. It does nothing to pull others to your side of the fence.
I'm stanning for whoever makes it out of the primary and I really dgaf who makes it out. Warren / Biden / Harris / Sanders .... they'll all be pretty much the same POTUS unless the senate flips and Mitch is out as majority leader.
1000x this. Not Bernie, nor AOC, nor Ilhan nor any other idealist in congress on the left has done fuck all to show me that "millions of people are gonna march in protest and force change"
More people interested in storming area 51
By DY_nasty Go To PostThe problem with these far left types more than anything is that they're operating as if they DONT have to answer these types of questions. Take Warren for example - she doesn't have the best plans ever all the time but at least they're actual tangible plans. Not wishlists or "the people will make it so" or "I would totally do this but I can't right now but trust me okay"
1000x this. Not Bernie, nor AOC, nor Ilhan nor any other idealist in congress on the left has done fuck all to show me that "millions of people are gonna march in protest and force change"
More people interested in storming area 51
By DY_nasty Go To PostAccountability isn't a death nail man lolThe problems with these plans is that they often take way to long to implement, are crippled by commitee (look at how even the dems and Obama completely hacked away the public option), are often started as a compromise with the belief that'll get some republican aupport (which it will not), and even if it does go through it will be scrapped by the time Republicans take power once again.
The problem with these far left types more than anything is that they're operating as if they DONT have to answer these types of questions. Take Warren for example - she doesn't have the best plans ever all the time but at least they're actual tangible plans. Not wishlists or "the people will make it so" or "I would totally do this but I can't right now but trust me okay"
That type of stuff is only good enough to convince the people who are already subscribed. It does nothing to pull others to your side of the fence.
Bernie ain't even that far-left, we just live in a right wing country. Far-left would be seizing property from land lords and factories from corporations not guaranteeing healthcare and decent wages for all citizens.
By MushForBrains Go To Post(look at how even the dems and Obama completely hacked away the public option)The public option was in the bill until literally the last minute when Joseph Lieberman said he wouldn't vote for a public option.
By MushForBrains Go To PostThe problems with these plans is that they often take way to long to implement, are crippled by commitee (look at how even the dems and Obama completely hacked away the public option), are often started as a compromise with the belief that'll get some republican aupport (which it will not), and even if it does go through it will be scrapped by the time Republicans take power once again.
Bernie ain't even that far-left, we just live in a right wing country. Far-left would be seizing property from land lords and factories from corporations not guaranteeing healthcare and decent wages for all citizens.
So like something rather than nothing. Cause liberal Bernie ain’t getting shit passed from his agenda.
Bernie ain’t that far left because he’s not an anarcho-communist is some hilarious shit too.
By rodeoclown Go To PostThe public option was in the bill until literally the last minute when Joseph Lieberman said he wouldn't vote for a public option.
And then left the Dem party to caucus with the GOP
By MushForBrains Go To PostThe problems with these plans is that they often take way to long to implement, are crippled by commitee (look at how even the dems and Obama completely hacked away the public option), are often started as a compromise with the belief that'll get some republican aupport (which it will not), and even if it does go through it will be scrapped by the time Republicans take power once again.You can prevent the vast majority of this shit by having an actual plan and knowing when to lock arms on certain things.
Bernie ain't even that far-left, we just live in a right wing country. Far-left would be seizing property from land lords and factories from corporations not guaranteeing healthcare and decent wages for all citizens.