By s y Go To Post
Lmfao. This is very true.
By Random Ass Username Go To PostDany and Bran and Cersei did KL more dirty than the NK would have. GoT in a nutshell.maybe thats the point
By s y Go To PostPowerful image
By EldritchTrapStar Go To PostI'm saying.
Question: I don't remember if it was covered, but, who else knows the origin of the Night King? I can't imagine anyone within earshot of that knowledge being cool with a rep of the creatures that created humanity's demise, ruling over them.
I don’t believe anyone but bran knows.
By Fenderputty Go To PostI don’t believe anyone but bran knows.Probably Tyrion?
By Laboured Go To PostWhat happened to the winter that covers Westeros?
Did that just go away when NK died?
Yes. Apparently that’s how weather works now.
It's magic....
By n8 dogg Go To PostYes. Apparently that’s how weather works now.Magic m8 don't read into it too far
Winter never came. The ancient threat to all mankind was easily defeated. Two of the three dragons never achieved anything. Jon Snow's pedigree didn't matter and his resurrection was seemingly aimless. Arya never needed to change faces. And Bran's greensight's only purpose was to put him on the throne.
The more I think about it, the more I want to see the tragic inversion of this storyline. It follows a band of wizards, the last remnants of a magical people who were chased to the far north and hunted for millennia until they were thought to be extinct. Thousands of years later, after biding their time, honing their magic, and making minor pacts with the natives of the region, they march south from their frozen prison, bypass their enemy's enormous fortifications, and attempt to reclaim their homelands by killing the ambitious time-traveling sorcerer who is villifying them, claiming they're an existential threat as a means to make a play for the southern throne.
By FligureSkatingFan Go To PostThe more I think about it, the more I want to see the tragic inversion of this storyline. It follows a band of wizards, the last remnants of a magical people who were chased to the far north and hunted for millennia until they were thought to be extinct. Thousands of years later, after biding their time, honing their magic, and making minor pacts with the natives of the region, they march south from their frozen prison, bypass their enemy's enormous fortifications, and attempt to reclaim their homelands by killing the ambitious time-traveling sorcerer who is villifying them, claiming they're an existential threat as a means to make a play for the southern throne.sounds like dragon age mate
Winter did come didn’t it? I thought you could see snow in the shots outside King’s Landing?
I remember reading that some winters were worse than others, and who knows the extent to which the Night King influences the seasons. He seems to be able to create snow storms at the very least.
I remember reading that some winters were worse than others, and who knows the extent to which the Night King influences the seasons. He seems to be able to create snow storms at the very least.
By Bungie Go To PostWinter did come didn’t it? I thought you could see snow in the shots outside King’s Landing?The signs were pointing towards a long winter of a few years. Since they abolished any feeling of time passing or how the winter actually influenced anything else, apart from a bit of snow in KL, it really felt off.
I remember reading that some winters were worse than others, and who knows the extent to which the Night King influences the seasons. He seems to be able to create snow storms at the very least.
At least with all those people killed, they will most likely get through it a bit easier.
By Bungie Go To PostWinter did come didn’t it? I thought you could see snow in the shots outside King’s Landing?I thought that was ashes lmao
I remember reading that some winters were worse than others, and who knows the extent to which the Night King influences the seasons. He seems to be able to create snow storms at the very least.
How long was Tyrion and Jon Snow imprisoned? A few weeks? Months?
By Ciaran Ashina Go To Postsounds like dragon age mateSure, why not (I never played it). The whole damned thing was video-game-tier writing anyways.
Really, I'd just like to see something that complicates what we got, so the Night King, King Bran the Broken, etc, doesn't feel like an afterthought.
I don't doubt George will do it better than the show, but I do think he has already struggled with finding a way to make the Others meaningful and compelling. It doesn't necessarily need to be as extreme in its revisionism as what I'm suggesting, but do something. Resurrect Jon as an Other, POV chapters and all, innit.
I think my biggest this show lol from the last couple of seasons was how we only see KL, Winterfell and Dragonstone. Lords, ladies, people, allies, enemies all exist in the realm and we don't even get to know how they're holding up for the winter to come. Who is running what. We just get "yeah so and so is an ally anyways...'"
After the quality of those extensions to Dorne, the Reach, and Casterly Rock in the previous seasons and the return to Riverrun, are you sure you want to see that?
I think it just attests to how crappy it became. We get warned about Winter coming and we never actually see it or what it means.
By Flutter Go To PostProbably Tyrion?
Maybe but the NK’s origin story is tangential to brans
haha RAU they had no time for the actual main characters and you want them to show Dorne and the other kingdoms? Next level nitpicking bro.
They had loads of material and Martin was no closer to releasing the books, not sure why they didn't slow it down a bit before catching up to him.
They had loads of material and Martin was no closer to releasing the books, not sure why they didn't slow it down a bit before catching up to him.
Nitpicking? I hope you're being sarcastic man. We get warned about Winter the whole fuckin series then its like 'oh nm we'll just wrap this up at the first snows.'
Also D&D are real pricks damn: https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bq7cpw/heres_why_dd_deserve_all_the_hate_they_get_its/
Also D&D are real pricks damn: https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bq7cpw/heres_why_dd_deserve_all_the_hate_they_get_its/
GRRM can't finish the books cus he decided B dogg finishes on the throne.
No wonder its taking the motherfucker 26 years per chapter to sort that shit
No wonder its taking the motherfucker 26 years per chapter to sort that shit
There's no point in trying to make sense of Season 8 when D&D flat out decided to treat it like they needed to finish a college paper after spending too much time on the supporting paragraphs and the thesis.
By Random Ass Username Go To PostNitpicking? I hope you're being sarcastic man. We get warned about Winter the whole fuckin series then its like 'oh nm we'll just wrap this up at the first snows.'
Also D&D are real pricks damn: https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bq7cpw/heres_why_dd_deserve_all_the_hate_they_get_its/
Was winter incoming by the end though? North of the wall there's green plants growing out of the ground through the snow.
By Random Ass Username Go To PostI think it just attests to how crappy it became. We get warned about Winter coming and we never actually see it or what it means.I think it's safe to claim, like I did a few posts above, that, as far as what I saw on my television, winter never actually came. They announced the end of summer in the 11th episode of 73. By the end, we had some snow flurries up around Yorkshire or whatever, while Kings Landing was still climatically indistinguishable from Meereen.
I wanted snows falling a hundred feet deep and long nights when the sun hides for years, during which the children are born and live and die all in darkness; I wanted kings freezing to death in their castles, the same as shepherds in their huts, and women smothering their babies rather than see them starve, weeping while their tears freeze on their cheeks.
The show practically promised us that, and, well, yep.
By FligureSkatingFan Go To PostI think it's safe to claim, like I did a few posts above, that, as far as what I saw on my television, winter never actually came. They announced the end of summer in the 11th episode of 73. By the end, we had some snow flurries up around Yorkshire or whatever, while Kings Landing was still climatically indistinguishable from Meereen.They marketed the entire show around that happening 😂
I wanted snows falling a hundred feet deep and long nights when the sun hides for years, during which the children are born and live and die all in darkness; I wanted kings freezing to death in their castles, the same as shepherds in their huts, and women smothering their babies rather than see them starve, weeping while their tears freeze on their cheeks.
The show practically promised us that, and, well, yep.
George like "they only had six episodes" to tell the story
David and Dan were really cornered by the fact that they wanted to get the fuck up out of there ASAP
David and Dan were really cornered by the fact that they wanted to get the fuck up out of there ASAP
Woo this comment on the thread I linked. Whoa
Here a comment I made on my post calling them Douche Bags. This is a list of shit that they have done to actors, directors, and the story as complied by the admin of the Game of Thrones Wiki.
The Wiki remembers, Benioff and Weiss. The Wiki remembers Tysha.
The Wiki remembers how you rewrote the Dorne subplot to, by your own admission, show off Indira Varma's acting talents.
The Wiki remembers that you mentioned multiple Martell children in Season 2.
The Wiki remembers Arianne Martell.
The Wiki remembers contradictory statements you've made about the Timeline.
The Wiki remembers that you invented a firstborn son with Cersei who died...purely so you could show off Lena Headey's acting ability in the second episode - then ignored this after Season 1.
The Wiki remembers how you claimed "we always said seven seasons!" in Season 4...to cover yourselves when contract negotiations were going against you, even though you'd publicly stated there would be eight seasons after you split the third novel into two seasons.
The Wiki remembers when you changed Jeyne Westerling into Talisa, basically because you wanted Richard Madden to give a great love story performance as Robb Stark - then gave Talisa awful dialogue.
The Wiki remembers how you gutted Catelyn Stark of all her political agency and made her cry about Jon Snow of all people.
The Wiki remembers how you accidentally made a consensual sex scene look like rape with Jaime and Cersei, because (as Pedro Pascal confirmed) you were too busy playing iPhone games with naked female extras to spend time reviewing the final edit of the footage. And the Wiki remembers that both actors later publicly contradicted you and said it was never intended as a rape scene.
The Wiki remembers Harrold Hardyng and Dark Sansa's rise to political power in the Vale.
The Wiki remembers Larra Blackmont and Jonelle Cerwyn.
The Wiki remembers that Stannis was written into a black comedy death scene defeated by Ramsay, even though he's the best military commander in Westeros and likely to win the Battle of Ice. We remember "twenty good men"?
The Wiki remembers wasting four minutes on a Tyrion beetle speech.
The Wiki remembers how you foolishly admitted in the Blu-ray commentaries that you had Ramsay rape Sansa because you wanted to show off the actress's talents along with Alfie Allen.
The Wiki remembers that Littlefinger would never be stupid enough to send off Sansa in a marriage alliance without researching who he was sending her to first.
The Wiki remembers the Cinnamon Wind and Summer Islanders.
The Wiki remembers a time when you actually had female staff writers.
The Wiki remembers Loras Tyrell on Dragonstone.
The Wiki remembers Aimee Richardson.
The Wiki remembers Doran Martell and Alexander Siddig.
The Wiki remembers that you made Yara Greyjoy circumnavigate the entire continent of Westeros to attack the Dreadfort, only to be chased away by dogs.
The Wiki remembers how you turned Ramsay Snow into a Villain Sue because you like the actor's performance.
The Wiki remembers every time you set up that Ramsay's lack of foresight, such as publicly flaying Lord Cerwyn, would eventually lead to his downfall, but this had no payoff. The Wiki remembers that the true moral of the Red Wedding and its years-long aftermath is that the Starks' enemies thought they outsmarted them by cheating and that honorable conduct never prospers...but that their enemies' lack of honor meant that their own subordinates would betray them. The Wiki remembers that you even had Jon Snow point out right before their final battle that Ramsay Bolton's men only serve him out of fear and will flee when he dies or is losing...only to then literally show all of his men fighting to the death when they retake Winterfell.
The Wiki remembers how the actor that played Doran Martell was supposed to be 4-5 episodes in season 6, but you guys decided at the last minute to kill him off and didn’t tell him until he showed up on set, and you made an intern do it.
The Wiki remembers "creatively it made sense to us, because we wanted it to happen".
The Wiki remembers that Daenerys Targaryen is not fireproof in normal conditions, you just wanted to split one epic speech into two separate events.
The Wiki remembers "Orys the First" and "Maegor the Third" do not exist.
The Wiki remembers that it's called "The Dance of the Dragons", not "Dance of Dragons".
The Wiki remembers the Sand Snakes Water Gardens "fight scene".
The Wiki remembers that you didn't give Rickon Stark a single speaking line in Season 6.
The Wiki remembers that you said Ellaria Sand has five daughters in one episode, then four daughters in another.
The Wiki remembers that it is physically impossible for the Westerlands to simply "run out of gold", and even if they did, economics doesn't work like that for limited precious resources.
The Wiki remembers that you could have just used the cannibal ice-river clans themselves instead of merging them with the Thenns, most advanced of the wildlings.
The Wiki remembers that every invented scene with Olly is time that could have been spent showing Loras mourning Renly, as Cogman had intended.
The Wiki remembers how D&D "condensed" Robb Stark's military campaign so a show-only viewer never understands he has invaded the Westerlands and wants to lure TYWIN into a trap; that Robb is aware the Mountain is politically insignificant, that the Freys were already planning on jumping ship BEFORE they learned he had broken his betrothal.
The Wiki remembers Lady Stoneheart.
The Wiki remembers Oswell Whent and that Ned's companions had names.
The Wiki remembers Jeyne Poole.
The Wiki remembers that Arya and Jon Snow are wargs.
The Wiki remembers that Faceless Men don't kill for personal reasons, which forbids them from trying to kill a new recruit they dislike.
The Wiki remembers a bit of anatomy and medicine (re: Arya getting stabbed in the stomach)
The Wiki remembers Varys is an extreme utilitarian who employs mutilated child-slaves.
The Wiki remembers that the murder attempt against Bran gets solved in the books.
The Wiki remembers that Dontos Hollard carefully cultivated Sansa's trust.
The Wiki remembers "ONLY CAT" and "When the sun settles no candle can replace it".
The Wiki remembers that Edmure doesn't sell out the Blackfish out of resentment or to give him a chance of "suicide by cop" and gives him a time to escape.
The Wiki remembers that you can't just hedge your bets and claim Brynden Tully died off-screen in case you decide you have time to bring him back later.
The Wiki remembers that Miguel Sapochnik publicly admitted that the fight scenes in your original script for both "Hardhome" and "Battle of the Bastards" were unfilmable - and that any coherent military strategy appearing in the final version was his idea.
The Wiki remembers that you had Brienne of Tarth spend the second half of Season 5 staring at a window waiting for a candle.
The Wiki remembers that Alliser Thorne had no coherent reason to turn against Jon for letting wildlings through the Wall...after Jon had already let all the wildlings through the Wall, and killing him wouldn't stop this anymore, when you could have made it due to Ramsay Bolton as in the books.
The Wiki remembers that Esme Bianco (Ros) didn’t want to do nude scenes, anymore so you had Joffrey kill her character off with a crossbow.
The Wiki remembers that Jon Snow and the wildlings left Hardhome by ship, then in the next episode show up on the north side of the Wall, in front of Castle Black in the middle of the continent away from the shore, with no explanation.
The Wiki remembers that you fundamentally didn't have Sansa do anything in the narrative in Seasons 5 or 6 - killing a defeated man already tied to a chair in a prison cell, with permission of her brother, does not count as "narrative agency", much less "a strong feminist storyline".
The Wiki remembers that the title of the monarch sitting the Iron Throne either includes "of the Rhoynar" or it doesn't - but it can't just flip flop between the two versions from one episode to the next.
The Wiki remembers Sexposition, and that Neil Marshall confirmed that one of the two of you said, word for word, "I represent the perv part of the audience" and ordered him to add more random female nudity to his episode.
The Wiki remembers how important the full version of the Septon Meribald speech is.
The Wiki remembers that you're not on speaking terms with George R.R. Martin anymore.
The Wiki remembers that Benioff got so blind drunk at the Season 2 wrap party that he shattered every bone in both of his hands and couldn't work for a full week.
The Wiki remembers that you've both shown up openly drunk to every major public appearance since Season 4, including your own San Diego Comic-Con panel for Season 4.
The Wiki remembers how you treated Ian McIhenney, when he asked you not to kill Barristan because he was alive in the books. You then mocked him at a Q&A and told the audience him asking not to be killed, made you want to kill him more.
The Wiki remembers, Benioff and Weiss. We remember it all.
If you are interested in a more in depth look into D&D behind the scenes stuff, I suggest watching Dragon Demands on YouTube. He’s been saying for the last couple years what hacks they are and they were going to ruin the last season.