By DY_nasty Go To Postbreh stop it
Ronda was gassed in the first minute of the first round. She thought shit was gonna be easy and it showed. Her corner let her go out there and try to strike for a narrative, then forgot to tell her to stop. By then she'd already been downloaded completely and pieced the fuck up by a BAD fighter who improved more between her last fight and this one than just about anyone I've ever seen in MMA.
Ronda didn't prepare for shit, and doesn't look like she knows how to deal with world-class anything. Her grasp of angles was amateur the entire time and she couldn't even do what she does best with her armbar attempt/clinch. She couldn't bully it up, didn't have show anything remotely close to basic knowledge of fighting styles other than grappling and got absolutely dominated. A mismatch of styles doesn't equal domination like that. She didn't get tagged once or twice. She was eating counters non-stop, losing at her strengths, couldn't regain composure, and walked straight into a KO in Women's MMA (which pretty much means you got checkmated entirely, unlike men's where you just gotta slip up once to get cleaned out)
she might need to retire
What the heck am I reading? She was losing at her strengths? Really? Holm was Judo throwing the shit out of her? Executing arm bars on the ground? Or was she just escaping clinches and counterpunching and moving around away from trouble.
Ronda's a brilliant Judoka and a damn damn damn good BJJ specialist. If you don't think this, you don't know shit. She got outclassed by someone who's really really good at the shit that Ronda isn't. Styles make fights. Ronda was never going to hang with her in a striking match, she's not Fedor. And her gameplan was trash. Ronda can come back in 6 months from now and arm bar this chick in 35 seconds and no one will be surprised except for people who don't know fighting.
Really though, it's the level of glee and shit you're displaying at a long time champion losing. I don't get that kinda shit, I really don't.
She didn't walk straight into a KO. She got tagged over and over and over and over again. Lesser fighters would have, and already have, fallen to the canvas. It took a CroCop style leg kick to the damn face after a round and a half of punishment to knock her out. She got thoroughly outclassed, but she got thoroughly outclassed at her weakness, not at her strength. There's a massive massive difference there.
Ya'll are like the people claiming Penn and Silva and Fedor were frauds. No joke, you're exactly those people.
No joke, that level of being a loser in life is who you remind me of. Is that harsh?
By PSYCH! Go To Post
No joke, that level of being a loser in life is who you remind me of. Is that harsh?
she walked into a KO by having zero clue what angles mean and how they apply to mma. she never left holly's lead foot. ever. she never moved her head. ever. that's walking into a KO
breh
>the few times ronda did get to the ground or to the clinch she couldn't do shit, the fight should've ended there - where she's strong - but ronda couldn't even do that right. <
this fight was lesnar getting sent to wwe all over. silva's rematch makes infinitely more sense than this. there's not a single thing ronda 'won' at tonight. she was completely outclassed.
wut
breh
>the few times ronda did get to the ground or to the clinch she couldn't do shit, the fight should've ended there - where she's strong - but ronda couldn't even do that right. <
this fight was lesnar getting sent to wwe all over. silva's rematch makes infinitely more sense than this. there's not a single thing ronda 'won' at tonight. she was completely outclassed.
wut
By DY_nasty Go To Postshe walked into a KO by having zero clue what angles mean and how they apply to mma. she never left holly's lead foot. ever. she never moved her head. ever. that's walking into a KO
breh
>the few times ronda did get to the ground or to the clinch she couldn't do shit, the fight should've ended there - where she's strong - but ronda couldn't even do that right. <
this fight was lesnar getting sent to wwe all over. silva's rematch makes infinitely more sense than this. there's not a single thing ronda 'won' at tonight. she was completely outclassed.
wut
If you actually think this, I don't know what to tell you.
By 3SidedPolygons Go To PostIf you actually think this, I don't know what to tell you.good
By DY_nasty Go To Postgood
She got outclassed on her feet by a world champion boxer with muy thai skills and didn't get an arm bar in her only real opportunity. What a fraud! lol. Like I could understand prisoner of the moment shit. We all do it. But the fucking glee in it though? A little fishy.
By db Go To PostUgh Mayweather stans and just generally shitty comments are really tiring.
Seriously.
mayweather stans get to pop off after ronda said she'd beat him. got rekt by someone not even remotely close to the same level
like... footwork, basic footwork and head movement was completely non-existent. that's mma 101. ronda's bread and butter, bullrush into clinch/takedown doesn't work against anyone with a real left and the ability to move.
when you're that bad at getting in, you need to make every takedown count. and if you're a bjj expert and you're eating boxers alive once you do get in, you suck. plain and simple
By 3SidedPolygons Go To PostShe got outclassed on her feet by a world champion boxer with muy thai skills and didn't get an arm bar in her only real opportunity. What a fraud! lol. Like I could understand prisoner of the moment shit. We all do it. But the fucking glee in it though? A little fishy.if you don't understand basic angles and how to not swallow 70% of strikes, then you've probably been making a living fighting cans
Seriously.
like... footwork, basic footwork and head movement was completely non-existent. that's mma 101. ronda's bread and butter, bullrush into clinch/takedown doesn't work against anyone with a real left and the ability to move.
when you're that bad at getting in, you need to make every takedown count. and if you're a bjj expert and you're eating boxers alive once you do get in, you suck. plain and simple
By DY_nasty Go To Postmayweather stans get to pop off after ronda said she'd beat him. got rekt by someone not even remotely close to the same levelEh it's "hoe" and "cunt" and all kinds of sexist shit. Tired.
By ò_ó Go To PostEh it's "hoe" and "cunt" and all kinds of sexist shit. Tired.been on the internet long enough to have a natural filter to it
and honestly the footy guys... i'm pretty sure cunt is gender-neutral over there but whatever. that's why we got more than one mod
I'll never really have a filter for it on sites I typically see better discourse at. Always depressing how casually dudes spout off that mess. Sorry I'm not battle hardened or whatever.
By ò_ó Go To PostI'll never really have a filter for it on sites I typically see better discourse at. Always depressing how casually dudes spout off that mess. Sorry I'm not battle hardened or whatever.pretttttttttttttttttttttty sure cunt from most of footy is gender-neutral
and i'm prettttty sure people have seen me use ho in the same way regularly.
but im open, and i've been wrong before, and its not like i'm the only opinion that matters either
Even disregarding that, which frankly I kind of disagree with since it's a nice excuse, you still got "hoe" elsewhere and other prior questionable posts well before any of that Ronda mess.
Just tired of forums and the internet lately with that ish. Seeing even more of it because of Ronda losing is grating. Sorry for the derail.
Just tired of forums and the internet lately with that ish. Seeing even more of it because of Ronda losing is grating. Sorry for the derail.
We're all cunts, Ronda and mayweather are no exception.
But yeah, hoe is different, I'd say you have a point there.
That was a really entertaining fight tbh, just to see such domination. Reminds me of El Clasico
But yeah, hoe is different, I'd say you have a point there.
That was a really entertaining fight tbh, just to see such domination. Reminds me of El Clasico
I don't read any 'cunts' on this page so I'm gonna assume it's that dude that nobody likes on my ignore list, just sweep him to the side and bin him like we all do.
Cunt IS gender-neutral in the UK, and generally used as often as Fuck in the US, my ex girlfriend's favourite word come think of it...lol. However, I can only vouch for my UK duders in their cunt usage
anywaaaay, I used to be Team Ronda but she's been going absolutely mental lately, and her liking Pokemon just sealed it for me, I'm team AnyoneButRonda
Cunt IS gender-neutral in the UK, and generally used as often as Fuck in the US, my ex girlfriend's favourite word come think of it...lol. However, I can only vouch for my UK duders in their cunt usage
anywaaaay, I used to be Team Ronda but she's been going absolutely mental lately, and her liking Pokemon just sealed it for me, I'm team AnyoneButRonda
Ronday Rousey is a fine standup mma fighter, she's NOT anywhere near a world champion boxer though.
Comparing her to Lesnar is a joke. No one on earth thought Lesnar was a good fighter except for redneck wrestling fans. Whereas every single male MMA fighter has been singing Ronda's praises for years now. Brock got by on size and size alone and got annihilated in much more brutal fashion by a so-so standup fighter. Ronda on the other hand has been annihilating every single person she faced in epic fashion except one who happens to have a really big stylistic advantage - that doesn't mean she has been fighting cans.
Brock Lesnar got his ass beat standing up by a wrestler - a guy with almost the same shitty technique but much better conditioning. The entire male heavyweight division of the UFC has been shit for a long long time. Not a real fighter that's not past his prime in the entire bunch.
Again, prisoner of the moment shit. She looked horrible today and had a horrible game plan. Tried to be cute with her standup game, took shots early and often. But you don't dominate world judo tournaments and develop the best armbar in the game and get considered a sham.
Comparing her to Lesnar is a joke. No one on earth thought Lesnar was a good fighter except for redneck wrestling fans. Whereas every single male MMA fighter has been singing Ronda's praises for years now. Brock got by on size and size alone and got annihilated in much more brutal fashion by a so-so standup fighter. Ronda on the other hand has been annihilating every single person she faced in epic fashion except one who happens to have a really big stylistic advantage - that doesn't mean she has been fighting cans.
Brock Lesnar got his ass beat standing up by a wrestler - a guy with almost the same shitty technique but much better conditioning. The entire male heavyweight division of the UFC has been shit for a long long time. Not a real fighter that's not past his prime in the entire bunch.
Again, prisoner of the moment shit. She looked horrible today and had a horrible game plan. Tried to be cute with her standup game, took shots early and often. But you don't dominate world judo tournaments and develop the best armbar in the game and get considered a sham.
By 3SidedPolygons Go To PostRonday Rousey is a fine standup mma fighter, she's NOT anywhere near a world champion boxer though.You do when look like this
Comparing her to Lesnar is a joke. No one on earth thought Lesnar was a good fighter except for redneck wrestling fans. Whereas every single male MMA fighter has been singing Ronda's praises for years now. Brock got by on size and size alone and got annihilated in much more brutal fashion by a so-so standup fighter. Ronda on the other hand has been annihilating every single person she faced in epic fashion except one who happens to have a really big stylistic advantage - that doesn't mean she has been fighting cans.
Brock Lesnar got his ass beat standing up by a wrestler - a guy with almost the same shitty technique but much better conditioning. The entire male heavyweight division of the UFC has been shit for a long long time. Not a real fighter that's not past his prime in the entire bunch.
Again, prisoner of the moment shit. She looked horrible today and had a horrible game plan. Tried to be cute with her standup game, took shots early and often. But you don't dominate world judo tournaments and develop the best armbar in the game and get considered a sham.
They gonna put Holly on the cover of Ring now?
She can shadowbox just fine.
Joe Rogan, holla.
The 'greatest athlete in the World' just got exposed.
Usually happens when your division is filled with cans.
She can shadowbox just fine.
Joe Rogan, holla.
The 'greatest athlete in the World' just got exposed.
Usually happens when your division is filled with cans.
By rvy Go To Postthis looks like arkham combat
By Lupercal Go To PostRonda lost damn, but I think she'll rise up like Rocky and conquer Creed.I don't know if she'll be cool with beating up cans for a while to get her face back... that's the thing.
Its not like she simply lost. She got dismantled - that's the shit that gets your movie deals killed.
By DY_nasty Go To PostI don't know if she'll be cool with beating up cans for a while to get her face back... that's the thing.
Its not like she simply lost. She got dismantled - that's the shit that gets your movie deals killed.
Rocky beat Apollo in the second one yo!
But yeah, she got worked pretty hard from the get go. If she can recover mentally she's good, the fightplan can always be fixed.
It's literally like ya'll have never heard "styles make fights" ever.
This woman was a world boxing champion and had a kickboxing background.
World judo champion vs world boxing champion in a primarily standup fight.
Ronda got wrekt, but her dominance was legit just like Silva's and Penn's and Fedor's and Petrosyan's.
Weirdly enough I think Carano in her prime would have been a better fight for Holly. She was a Muy Thai specialist too.
If anything, this knocks Rousey out of any Cyborg fights.
This woman was a world boxing champion and had a kickboxing background.
World judo champion vs world boxing champion in a primarily standup fight.
Ronda got wrekt, but her dominance was legit just like Silva's and Penn's and Fedor's and Petrosyan's.
Weirdly enough I think Carano in her prime would have been a better fight for Holly. She was a Muy Thai specialist too.
If anything, this knocks Rousey out of any Cyborg fights.
Counter fighters are notoriously hard to defeat. Mayweather and Petrosyan come to mind. They routinely make world class technicians look no better than Ronda did out there. Mayweather toyed around with De La Hoya and Canelo and Petrosyan toyed around with everyone.
By 3SidedPolygons Go To PostIt's literally like ya'll have never heard "styles make fights" ever.you really trying to act like ronda didn't have holm locked into her patented hiptoss
This woman was a world boxing champion and had a kickboxing background.
World judo champion vs world boxing champion in a primarily standup fight.
Ronda got wrekt, but her dominance was legit just like Silva's and Penn's and Fedor's and Petrosyan's.
you trying to act like holm didn't get out of her sub attempt with ease
ronda couldn't even get in without getting picked apart. even the most basic takedown specialist trains to move their head to get in. she didn't do any of that. that is a plain and simple lack of the most basic knowledge of mma. ronda doesn't know how to cut off anyone that isn't an idiot striker, and she's been lucky enough to fight ONLY idiot strikers and people that want to stand and trade.
and the bolded is lol. silva beat great fighters. penn beat great fighters. etc. Ronda beat who?
she dominated the most pathetically lopsided and underdeveloped division in mma. she was silva dominant tho? pls m8. holly's world class boxing didn't even show up here. ronda was eating the same straight left the entire fight. why? because she doesn't even understand how to get around someone's lead foot. she's bullrushed and physically dominated to the point where she could put anyone she faced into her own comfort zone and go to work. that advantage was gone because holly didn't immediately throw her back into the cage and she was in better shape by far
its cain/lesnar all over again. styles would come into play here if she wasn't dismantled by the basics of general mma.
By DY_nasty Go To Postand the bolded is lol. silva beat great fighters. penn beat great fighters. etc. Ronda beat who?I was about to say. I mean, women's MMA has been around for what? 15 years? 7 years with some mainstream exposure?
she dominated the most pathetically lopsided and underdeveloped division in mma. she was silva dominant tho? pls m8. holly's world class boxing didn't even show up here. ronda was eating the same straight left the entire fight. why? because she doesn't even understand how to get around someone's lead foot. she's bullrushed and physically dominated to the point where she could put anyone she faced into her own comfort zone and go to work. that advantage was gone because holly didn't immediately throw her back into the cage and she was in better shape by far
its cain/lesnar all over again. styles would come into play here if she wasn't dismantled by the basics of general mma.
Ronda has been fighting some actual cans.
ESPN and the UFC got into people's heads too much. Ronda served her purpose well, which was to get women's MMA to become mainstream. But let's not act like she was comparable to any of the GOATs. Hopefully in the next 5 to 10 years we can find someone like that, but she gotta be fighting people on a much higher level of competition.
Shit, I'll pay for a rematch if she can get her striking game up to decent levels.
By rvy Go To PostI was about to say. I mean, women's MMA has been around for what? 15 years? 7 years with some mainstream exposure?i think ronda did more for her sport than anyone in recent memory. in the next 5 years or so, all the women that got into mma (after all the boxing gyms died lol) are gonna be legit knowledgeable and ready to enter the ring and contribute.
Ronda has been fighting some actual cans.
ESPN and the UFC got into people's heads too much. Ronda served her purpose well, which was to get women's MMA to become mainstream. But let's not act like she was comparable to any of the GOATs. Hopefully in the next 5 to 10 year we can find someone like that, but she gotta be fighting people on a much higher level of competition.
I don't follow the sport but just watched the five minutes this fight lasted. If Ronda fights this woman again, she's going to face the same outcome. She was outclassed that badly from the opening bell.
Ronda also started off with an incredibly poor look by not following the refs instructions to touch gloves, and then she throws, what looked to my casual eyes, as a late punch to end the first round.
To open the second round Ronda is very clearly already waiting for that Uber on queer street. She's stumbling about like a toddler before eating that roundhouse that ended things. Again, at no point did she seem like she was up for this fight or prepared to engage this Holly person. This was not a contest so much as it was a lesson in humility.
Holly could have rightfully shit all over Ronda when speaking with Rogan and shined a brighter light on herself. But she took the high road and seemed humbled by the experience. Good for her.
Ronda also started off with an incredibly poor look by not following the refs instructions to touch gloves, and then she throws, what looked to my casual eyes, as a late punch to end the first round.
To open the second round Ronda is very clearly already waiting for that Uber on queer street. She's stumbling about like a toddler before eating that roundhouse that ended things. Again, at no point did she seem like she was up for this fight or prepared to engage this Holly person. This was not a contest so much as it was a lesson in humility.
Holly could have rightfully shit all over Ronda when speaking with Rogan and shined a brighter light on herself. But she took the high road and seemed humbled by the experience. Good for her.
By GQman2121 Go To PostHolly could have rightfully shit all over Ronda when speaking with Rogan and shined a brighter light on herself. But she took the high road and seemed humbled by the experience. Good for her.
What fight, when it was first announced I thought it'd be hip toss to armbar in a minute.
Then after watching all the hype vids then holms most recent fights I wasn't so sure.
Told my friends yesterday I wouldn't be surprised if holms caught her with a headkick, thought some coach in rondas corner would have told her to watch against that.
JJ the real champ.
Then after watching all the hype vids then holms most recent fights I wasn't so sure.
Told my friends yesterday I wouldn't be surprised if holms caught her with a headkick, thought some coach in rondas corner would have told her to watch against that.
JJ the real champ.
Looking at the different angles being posted online, that kick might as well have been a rocket strapped to Ronda's back destined for Titan Tower, Connecticut. The WWF looks to be her only future in the entertainment business seeing as she's defeated everyone in front of her before this pounding at the hands of a superior competitor.
Her fighting career is going to be the victim of her own success up to this point.
Her fighting career is going to be the victim of her own success up to this point.
By Prolapse Go To Posthahaha the banter is amazingIt really is. Instagram alone has kept me laughing here over coffee.
By rvy Go To Post
jesus
Ronda's striking has always been shit. Tate landed a few lefts on her ffs. Ronda is usually the bigger fighter too. Holly has height, footwork, and reach over Ronda.
People have escaped Anderson's attempts at an arm bar too dude. Holly isn't the superior grappler just because she got away. This was a fight that spent 90% of the time in an area that Holm was a 3 division champ in.
They spend 5 minutes on the ground and Ronda breaks every limb she has. They spend 5 minutes standing up and Ronda gets picked apart. Styles make fights and Ronda went in with a dumbass game plan. By the time she got on the floor she had already eaten a good amount of punishment.
Lesnar got beat up standing up by a WRESTLER. That's what was embarrassing. First guy he fought within 20 pounds of him that wouldn't be overpowered and he got wrekt.
Ronda Rushed in and kept getting countered and tagged with the straight left - classic counterpuncher's weapon.
Ronda stays back, keeps her own distance, waits for Holm to get anxious and press, clinch and gets a takedown. That should have been the takedown.
Silva and Penn are better fighters clearly, I didn't equate them as fighters, just as dominant champions who got wrekt hard when they got cocky and had a bad game plan
They spend 5 minutes on the ground and Ronda breaks every limb she has. They spend 5 minutes standing up and Ronda gets picked apart. Styles make fights and Ronda went in with a dumbass game plan. By the time she got on the floor she had already eaten a good amount of punishment.
Lesnar got beat up standing up by a WRESTLER. That's what was embarrassing. First guy he fought within 20 pounds of him that wouldn't be overpowered and he got wrekt.
Ronda Rushed in and kept getting countered and tagged with the straight left - classic counterpuncher's weapon.
Ronda stays back, keeps her own distance, waits for Holm to get anxious and press, clinch and gets a takedown. That should have been the takedown.
Silva and Penn are better fighters clearly, I didn't equate them as fighters, just as dominant champions who got wrekt hard when they got cocky and had a bad game plan
I just re-watched the fight from last night. Yea, ya'll are wrong. Ronda's gameplan was shit, she was pressing a counterpuncher who was just tagging her with hooks and running away. I've watched enough Petrosyan fights and Mayweather fights to see the same pattern. That's fine, that's how counterfighters and technicians fight - but you don't press them. It's the same shit Lyoto Machida did when he came on the scene.
Her entire gameplan was retarded, and her coaches are to blame for this loss. She got in close enough several times to do a wrestling lunge and grapple her down but she just kept trying to outbox her like a dumbass. Had one takedown attempt, one failed arm bar attempt, spent 95% of this fight trying to outbox Holly to show she can strike.
Her entire gameplan was retarded, and her coaches are to blame for this loss. She got in close enough several times to do a wrestling lunge and grapple her down but she just kept trying to outbox her like a dumbass. Had one takedown attempt, one failed arm bar attempt, spent 95% of this fight trying to outbox Holly to show she can strike.
Who does Holly fight next? Surely Ronda takes some time off and let's this embarrassment subside before even considering another bout, but who's lined up for the champ?
By GQman2121 Go To PostWho does Holly fight next? Surely Ronda takes some time off and let's this embarrassment subside before even considering another bout, but who's lined up for the champ?I mean... maybe Cat or Meisha?
I'm really interested to see if Holm can keep her stat boosts tbh