By diehard Go To PostYeah the US really needs to attempt to stabilize those countries, and if it doesn't work i'm sure we won't take any of the blame.We already fucked with those places what are you even jawing about.
By Random Ass Username Go To PostWe already fucked with those places what are you even jawing about.pretty sure that was sarcastic lol
now this is a fun read for the evening
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-religion-brothels/in-age-of-trump-evangelicals-back-self-styled-top-u-s-pimp-idUSKBN1JI1A9?il=0
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-religion-brothels/in-age-of-trump-evangelicals-back-self-styled-top-u-s-pimp-idUSKBN1JI1A9?il=0
By diehard Go To PostYeah the US really needs to attempt to stabilize those countries, and if it doesn't work i'm sure we won't take any of the blame.It's more that domestic policies of the last 60 or 70 years helped enable foreign drug cartels to get as big and powerful and violent as they are.
By Kibner Go To PostIt's more that domestic policies of the last 60 or 70 years helped enable foreign drug cartels to get as big and powerful and violent as they are.Brazil is becoming a gangland and i believe the main exports of cocaine are to Europe, Asia and Africa. Is there something specific about the US domestic policy that fuels this beyond what other UN countries do (other than having more money)?
we were about to jump into both brazil and venuzuela directly not too long ago
needed some freedom in their elections
needed some freedom in their elections
Y'all remember when the right popped off about some pizzagate nonsense and a gunman ended up in a pizzeria in DC? They don't seem to have learned their lesson.
You were asked to leave a restaurant because you are an asshole who works for an asshole. Take the L and go somewhere else. Posting this on Twitter is inviting any old loon to go down there and try to settle the score. Jesus Fucking Christ, what the hell is wrong with you people?
You were asked to leave a restaurant because you are an asshole who works for an asshole. Take the L and go somewhere else. Posting this on Twitter is inviting any old loon to go down there and try to settle the score. Jesus Fucking Christ, what the hell is wrong with you people?
Seems like the type of thing that people said we should not be able to do...
Kicking someone out of an establishment over politics seems like good ammo for why kicking someone out for being homosexual (or insert any other minority) should be tolerated
Kicking someone out of an establishment over politics seems like good ammo for why kicking someone out for being homosexual (or insert any other minority) should be tolerated
All this incident will do is increase Trump’s poll numbers. If Sanders has been allowed to dine, there wouldn’t be any story in which Sanders is painted as a victim and will thus garner sympathy points.
By blackace Go To PostSeems like the type of thing that people said we should not be able to do…
Kicking someone out of an establishment over politics seems like good ammo for why kicking someone out for being homosexual (or insert any other minority) should be tolerated
Being press secretary and repeatedly lying to the American people is so far not recognized as a protected class. I'm open to becoming woke on this particular issue, though.
Regardless, putting the restaurant on blast on Twitter in 2018? With the base of loons they know they have created? There's no excuse for that.
By blackace Go To PostSeems like the type of thing that people said we should not be able to do…I prefer the kill them with kindness method.
Kicking someone out of an establishment over politics seems like good ammo for why kicking someone out for being homosexual (or insert any other minority) should be tolerated
By Pac-12 Go To PostRegardless, putting the restaurant on blast on Twitter in 2018? With the base of loons they know they have created? There's no excuse for that.Putting them on blast? Her tweet is innocuous and is an accurate portrayal of events. You can’t refuse service to someone and then complain if they subsequently tell other people that they were refused.
By Pac-12 Go To PostBeing press secretary and repeatedly lying to the American people is so far not recognized as a protected class. I'm open to becoming woke on this particular issue, though.So would you be ok with kicking out a non-"protected" class person who voted for or worked on legalizing gay rights?
Regardless, putting the restaurant on blast on Twitter in 2018? With the base of loons they know they have created? There's no excuse for that.
To me that is how this white people are being oppressed movement has gotten so much steam...
By FortuneFaded Go To PostPutting them on blast? Her tweet is innocuous and is an accurate portrayal of events. You can’t refuse service to someone and then complain if they subsequently tell other people that they were refused.
Um. Dude. Republicans are fucking crazy in 2018.
Right wing propagandists peddled a conspiracy theory before the 2016 election that democrats were running a child sex ring in the basement of a DC restaurant. A guy from North Carolina went up there with a gun to save them.
Sarah Sanders can absolutely not call attention to a specific restaurant regardless of the circumstances. It is asking for trouble. She is free to tell her circle of friends and acquaintances. But all of Twitter? Absolutely not. (No more than Obama or Hillary could call out specific mistreatment, I'm not saying crazy is limited to the right, but I do suggest there's more of it over there.)
Republicans have never, ever, denied service in an establishment based on politics, especially homosexuality
Wonder what made The Red Hen decide to be the first establishment to ever do this, especially to someone as nice as SHS.
Wonder what made The Red Hen decide to be the first establishment to ever do this, especially to someone as nice as SHS.
By blackace Go To PostSo would you be ok with kicking out a non-"protected" class person who voted for or worked on legalizing gay rights?
To me that is how this white people are being oppressed movement has gotten so much steam…
I am not suggesting it was necessarily right for them to refuse service. I am absolutely saying it is not right for Sanders and Fucking Franklin Graham to put it on Twitter with the specific restaurant in the specific city. Keep it in house. There's no reason for all of the world to know, not when all it takes is one nut to hear the name and decide there needs to be a reckoning.
I don't know why you're expecting any sort of giving a shit about not inflaming their base from the same people who routinely inflame their base.
For what it's worth, the former director of the U.S. Office of Government Ethics suggests this is, in fact, unethical for the Press Secretary to do.
By RobNBanks Go To PostRepublicans have never, ever, denied service in an establishment based on politics, especially homosexuality
Wonder what made The Red Hen decide to be the first establishment to ever do this, especially to someone as nice as SHS.
That's the point.. Same people shocked and appalled by a place not wanting to make a wedding cake for a gay marriage give a standing ovation for kicking a person out of an establishment over politics.... That helps the argument that businesses should be able to discriminate.. So it really just hurts left causes than helps..
By Pac-12 Go To PostI am not suggesting it was necessarily right for them to refuse service. I am absolutely saying it is not right for Sanders and Fucking Franklin Graham to put it on Twitter with the specific restaurant in the specific city. Keep it in house. There's no reason for all of the world to know, not when all it takes is one nut to hear the name and decide there needs to be a reckoning.Why not? She was kicked out of a restaurant because of her job and politically affiliation...
You can't choose when to follow your own standards or not..
By blackace Go To PostWhy not? She was kicked out of a restaurant because of her job and politically affiliation…
You can't choose when to follow your own standards or not..
Really? You don't think there's even the smallest chance that because of what she did someone is going to go to that restaurant and cause trouble? Is it worth it? By all means, Sarah can tell her family, friends, everyone she works with, to avoid that restaurant. That's well within her right. But to put it on Twitter, in front of millions of people, no. She can't do it. Not while she's in that office, not while her voice carries much more weight than anyone else's.
On Twitter, she is free to lament the refusal of service in generalized terms, but including the name and location is practically putting a hit on the place. She can't do it. Nor could anyone in similar position on the left.
Or put another way, would you want the President to go on Twitter and say "blackace, who lives at 123 Gary Payton Ln in Seattle, WA, called me a fuckface. Just putting it out there."
By Pac-12 Go To PostReally? You don't think there's even the smallest chance that because of what she did someone is going to go to that restaurant and cause trouble? Is it worth it?
By Pac-12 Go To PostOr put another way, would you want the President to go on Twitter and say "blackace, who lives at 123 Gary Payton Ln in Seattle, WA, called me a fuckface. Just putting it out there."
By FortuneFaded Go To Post
That is not even analogous, sorry. She can't -- in her official capacity, no less -- name the specific restaurant and city. That's just irresponsible, and she knows better. If she doesn't, she absolutely should.
I can't believe y'all think this is OK.
Again, not saying she should have been asked to leave. But given that she was, she can't put it on Twitter. Of that, I am damn sure.
By Pac-12 Go To PostBut given that she was, she can't put it on Twitter. Of that, I am damn sure.Would have it been any better if she had gone on Fox News? Would that have broken any ethical rules?
By FortuneFaded Go To PostWould have it been any better if she had gone on Fox News? Would that have broken any ethical rules?
No? And, to the second, yes?
She can't name the place. I guarantee you that right now they are no doubt already receiving all kinds of death threats on the phone and email and such. Certainly, most of that will just be morons fucking around, no real intent. They probably also went all "Houston Rocket fan" on their Yelp reviews. But she's lighting a match that she can't control. She cannot do that, not in her position.
Tell me, when's the last time you've seen even a celebrity specifically name such an establishment? How did that go?
By Pac-12 Go To PostReally? You don't think there's even the smallest chance that because of what she did someone is going to go to that restaurant and cause trouble? Is it worth it? By all means, Sarah can tell her family, friends, everyone she works with, to avoid that restaurant. That's well within her right. But to put it on Twitter, in front of millions of people, no. She can't do it. Not while she's in that office, not while her voice carries much more weight than anyone else's.cause trouble or double business lol
On Twitter, she is free to lament the refusal of service in generalized terms, but including the name and location is practically putting a hit on the place. She can't do it. Nor could anyone in similar position on the left.
either way she abused the fuck out of her position to bring attention to it. that's just being a typical gov employee dickbag, not pizzagate2
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By Pac-12 Go To PostOr put another way, would you want the President to go on Twitter and say "blackace, who lives at 123 Gary Payton Ln in Seattle, WA, called me a fuckface. Just putting it out there."I mean shit this happens all the time when it is someone getting kicked out of an establishment for other reasons. They run articles on said people.. kind of hard to get mad when the other shoe drops.... If you don't want that kind of press, and don't want to stand by your actions... Then maybe don't kick people out of your business like that?
By DY_nasty Go To Posteither way she abused the fuck out of her position to bring attention to it. that's just being a typical gov employee dickbag, not pizzagate2The sooner we stop acting shocked and appalled by the fucknuts of this admin we might actually get shit done but I'm not holding my breath.
By blackace Go To PostI mean shit this happens all the time when it is someone getting kicked out of an establishment for other reasons. They run articles on said people.. kind of hard to get mad when the other shoe drops…. If you don't want that kind of press, and don't want to stand by your actions… Then maybe don't kick people out of your business like that?
I don't know if this is the first time a political figure has been denied service, though I doubt it, and I don't know if this is the first time a political figure has specifically named and located the establishment publicly. But I do firmly believe that doing so is not right, and it is dangerous. I won't budge from that, either. Sanders and Graham do not care about that, though they should. Especially since they like to lie and call themselves "Christians." Got the whole damn church deceived...
By blackace Go To PostThat's the point.. Same people shocked and appalled by a place not wanting to make a wedding cake for a gay marriage give a standing ovation for kicking a person out of an establishment over politics…. That helps the argument that businesses should be able to discriminate.. So it really just hurts left causes than helps..I think a judge ruling in favor of a bakery not having to make a cake for gay couples does more for that argument
By RobNBanks Go To PostI think a judge ruling in favor of a bakery not having to make a cake for gay couples does more for that argumentIs it that difficult to see the hypocrisy of it? Or is it just fuck the other side no matter what?
The other side is clearly going to do it (has government backing) and has been doing it, but you’re right when they go low we go high.
We shouldn’t stray from a mindset that’s worked so well for us
We shouldn’t stray from a mindset that’s worked so well for us
By FortuneFaded Go To PostPutting them on blast? Her tweet is innocuous and is an accurate portrayal of events. You can’t refuse service to someone and then complain if they subsequently tell other people that they were refused.You can't when it is coming from an official government account and the post can serve as a call to action against a specific business.
By Kibner Go To PostYou can't when it is coming from an official government account and the post can serve as a call to action against a specific business.I agree that it’s probably wrong to have tweeted from the ofifical government account but calling it a call to action is ridiculous.
By Pac-12 Go To PostReally? You don't think there's even the smallest chance that because of what she did someone is going to go to that restaurant and cause trouble? Is it worth it? By all means, Sarah can tell her family, friends, everyone she works with, to avoid that restaurant. That's well within her right. But to put it on Twitter, in front of millions of people, no. She can't do it. Not while she's in that office, not while her voice carries much more weight than anyone else's.She can still put it on twitter, just not under her government given Press Secretary account. If she had a personal account and tweeted it there, there would be no ethics violation.
On Twitter, she is free to lament the refusal of service in generalized terms, but including the name and location is practically putting a hit on the place. She can't do it. Nor could anyone in similar position on the left.
By RobNBanks Go To PostThe other side is clearly going to do it (has government backing) and has been doing it, but you’re right when they go low we go high.I never said any of that... If you want to make a stand by kicking someone out of your establishment that is cool and all but when you get put on blast for it don't act like you didn't see it coming.. because that is how the formula has been working.... and it makes trying to protect minorities from getting kicked out of places much harder but hey, go team petty
We shouldn’t stray from a mindset that’s worked so well for us
By FortuneFaded Go To PostI agree that it’s probably wrong to have tweeted from the ofifical government account but calling it a call to action is ridiculous.When you put the name and location like that out to millions of people, it's a *wink wink nudge nudge* type of thing. It has been used as a way for large twitter personalities to harass people IRL without getting banned for a decade. Frequently done to lgbt and women.
e: it's similar to the old "brigading" technique on forums
By Kibner Go To PostWhen you put the name and location like that out to millions of people, it's a *wink wink nudge nudge* type of thing. It has been used as a way for large twitter personalities to harass people IRL without getting banned for a decade. Frequently done to lgbt and women.So if you’re refused service from a business, you are not allowed to tell anybody?
e: it's similar to the old "brigading" technique on forums
By FortuneFaded Go To PostSo if you’re refused service from a business, you are not allowed to tell anybody?Not from an official government account. From a personal account, go hog wild.
By blackace Go To PostI never said any of that… If you want to make a stand by kicking someone out of your establishment that is cool and all but when you get put on blast for it don't act like you didn't see it coming.. because that is how the formula has been working…. and it makes trying to protect minorities from getting kicked out of places much harder but hey, go team petty
I’m actually ok with that? Wouldn’t be the first time white people decided they hate minorities more than they like money
Deny us service, go ahead. Instead of going to chipotle or qdoba you can go to a real mexican spot and make minority owned businesses more successful instead of letting white people profit from minority cultures.
a gov employee propping up or leveraging public opinion for or against a business using their position isn't in the same ballpark as denying services due to race/sex/gender/nationality/religion man...
i get what yal are going for. but this type of thing is legit paltry when its compared against states castrating themselves for the privilege of being fucked by amazon. that's the context this sort of thing belongs in
i get what yal are going for. but this type of thing is legit paltry when its compared against states castrating themselves for the privilege of being fucked by amazon. that's the context this sort of thing belongs in
By FortuneFaded Go To PostSo if you’re refused service from a business, you are not allowed to tell anybody?
By Kibner Go To PostNot from an official government account. From a personal account, go hog wild.yeah pretty much. especially when you're as high up as she is. that's just trifling as fuck and how she-goblin got thrown in the bushes
By Laboured Go To Post
cunt