By Not Go To PostI know you're afraid of things somehow going too far in the other direction, and it'll be a dystopian hellscape where women will universally be allowed to slander innocent men with no repercussions whatsoever, but trust me, TRUST ME, that's not gonna happen in your lifetime,I see GAF's better tendencies to assume and argue the caricature a person has of someone are effortlessly carrying over and finding new homes.
By JABEE Go To PostGQ, I've been wondering where you went. I need a new NFL home. We're all in the NFL GAF discord.Pretty sure some nlf gaffers are posting on the nfl thread already. Bring them over. Except for lunchbox. Hes a celtic fan heathen
By JABEE Go To PostGQ, I've been wondering where you went. I need a new NFL home. We're all in the NFL GAF discord.BaltimoreLarry told me all about it. I've been here for over two years now after the Footy members were blacklisted and targeted for bans. Hope more of you guys consider joining here. Frankman would love that!
By Megatherium Go To PostYou're leaning into this "oh you don't know how women are, oh you don't have any experience" shtick harder than someone would who actually has knowledge and experience. It's cringey. Learn to be well spoken and flesh out your opinions with something, anything, that could lend them legitimacy before you try to play the role of condescending.
I see, IM condescending TO you ? Did you even read the post that i responded to ?
Im gonna end this here, i don't like virtue signaling circle jerks, and lucky for me i'm not on neogaf to be banned for one.
Lucky me.
By NaughtyRskl Go To PostI see, IM condescending TO you ? Did you even read the post that i responded to ?Their loss I'm sure.
Im gonna end this here, i don't like virtue signaling circle jerks, and lucky for me i'm not on neogaf to be banned for one.
Lucky me.
+1 punch on your card for using "virtue signaling". 3 more and you get a free sub.
By NaughtyRskl Go To PostI see, IM condescending TO you ? Did you even read the post that i responded to ?Don't cut yourself on all that edge man.
Im gonna end this here, i don't like virtue signaling circle jerks, and lucky for me i'm not on neogaf to be banned for one.
Lucky me.
By Jonm Go To PostI see GAF's better tendencies to assume and argue the caricature a person has of someone are effortlessly carrying over and finding new homes.Oh goddamn it. You're probably right. It's a lot easier to start your argument by making a giant assumption about someone. That's certainly a way I could work on my approach. Thanks.
By uncelestial Go To PostKind of crazy, but a few minutes ago the first post EVER on forums.opencritic.com just happened: http://forums.opencritic.com/topic/28/what-are-you-playingJust looking at the design of the site, that forum doesn't look like it is long for this world. It looks incredibly basic while also being stale enough to be aesthetically unappealing. Good luck to whoever is trying to make that a place for gaffers to migrate but that's not gonna be my first choice.
I dunno.
Humans seem pretty complex to me. Sometimes they stay in damaging relationships for a myriad of reasons.
It in no way excuses Tyler from being a creepy little fuck.
Humans seem pretty complex to me. Sometimes they stay in damaging relationships for a myriad of reasons.
It in no way excuses Tyler from being a creepy little fuck.
Outrage culture didn't kill Neogaf. Tyler killed it by allegedly raping someone and banning/locking any discussion about it.
This week's UK charts
"Sony debut at No1 with ‘Gran Turismo Sport’, launched on Wednesday 18th October and this is a first outing on PS4 – original ‘Gran Turismo’ launched on PS1 back in week 19, 1998 and the last version was ‘Gran Turismo 6’ on PS3 back in week 49, 2013 – ‘GT Sport’ has a better week 1 units than both of these but is nowhere near the series high of 2010’s ‘Gran Turismo 5’ (week 1 was over 3 times higher)"
1 GRAN TURISMO: SPORT
2 FIFA 18
3 SOUTH PARK: THE FRACTURED BUT WHOLE
4 WWE 2K18
5 MIDDLE-EARTH: SHADOW OF WAR
6 THE EVIL WITHIN 2
7 DESTINY 2
8 GRAND THEFT AUTO V
9 FORZA MOTORSPORT 7
10 CRASH BANDICOOT N.SANE TRILOGY
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.
16 FIRE EMBLEM WARRIORS
https://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110015
"Sony debut at No1 with ‘Gran Turismo Sport’, launched on Wednesday 18th October and this is a first outing on PS4 – original ‘Gran Turismo’ launched on PS1 back in week 19, 1998 and the last version was ‘Gran Turismo 6’ on PS3 back in week 49, 2013 – ‘GT Sport’ has a better week 1 units than both of these but is nowhere near the series high of 2010’s ‘Gran Turismo 5’ (week 1 was over 3 times higher)"
1 GRAN TURISMO: SPORT
2 FIFA 18
3 SOUTH PARK: THE FRACTURED BUT WHOLE
4 WWE 2K18
5 MIDDLE-EARTH: SHADOW OF WAR
6 THE EVIL WITHIN 2
7 DESTINY 2
8 GRAND THEFT AUTO V
9 FORZA MOTORSPORT 7
10 CRASH BANDICOOT N.SANE TRILOGY
.
.
16 FIRE EMBLEM WARRIORS
https://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110015
Long-time GAF lurker, around 10 years! The whole thing came to a shock to me. There was definitely a lot of great little communities there, lots of awesome discussion and information, and I never waded into the political or GG threads, so I think I was quite oblivious to a lot of the stuff that was going on.
But some of the stuff there recently was ridiculous. The whole drama about Switch icons was just unbelievably petty and I did find myself logging on less.
But some of the stuff there recently was ridiculous. The whole drama about Switch icons was just unbelievably petty and I did find myself logging on less.
Ok, so I'm not what you would consider to be a GAF veteran. My account was accepted in 2014 during the height of GG. My knowledge of the site pretty much started around 2010.
With that being said, no other website and community has made me think twice about my morals and worldview than NeoGAF. I think forums by large are mostly boring. Most are heavily built on the foundation of people's fanboyism and want you to talk on their level or get booted or ignored. I didn't see that on GAF, despite what some people saying it suffered the same hivemind mentality. You know what I saw? I saw people talking back. I saw people discussing topics outside the norm. I saw new ideas being presented and actually put into place instead of tossed out. Mods were making sure people were staying on topic and being challenged when they said something they thought was absolute truth. Ain't no other forum was like that. I understood why getting in was a daunting task for some people. Before GAF I looked at forums as nothing more than something to goof around in and troll till you get tired. Fuck what anyone else thinks cuz I'm on the internet right? Who cares. That attitude I had was quickly squashed when my GAF account got approved. I only got banned once and it was my fault for trying to derail a topic by posting an orgasm meme image. But as much as GAF is famous for being a games forums, It's Off-Topic where I, real talk, had my ignorant toxic views on certain people challenged and changed. If it wasn't for GAF I would have fallen for GG, MRA, and any other dumbass toxic ideology.
I can't speak on people who had a problem with the moderation. I wasn't afraid to say what I had to say. I always viewed my opinions as fair and often times just basic common sense. Like, I'm sorry but, if you want to die on a hill just to defend a Nazi's free speech I gotta call you out. Yeah, some mods jumped the gun, which you saw mostly in the Gaming side, but overall the moderation, to me, was needed. I didn't want another forum to be swamped with trolls and "I wasn't serious bro" hot takes. I don't mind goofing off in a forum but I also want to learn. Make something worthwhile. Cuz if a forum is nothing more than just "HYPE LEVELS OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!" then I'm not gonna engage with the community.
With that being said, no other website and community has made me think twice about my morals and worldview than NeoGAF. I think forums by large are mostly boring. Most are heavily built on the foundation of people's fanboyism and want you to talk on their level or get booted or ignored. I didn't see that on GAF, despite what some people saying it suffered the same hivemind mentality. You know what I saw? I saw people talking back. I saw people discussing topics outside the norm. I saw new ideas being presented and actually put into place instead of tossed out. Mods were making sure people were staying on topic and being challenged when they said something they thought was absolute truth. Ain't no other forum was like that. I understood why getting in was a daunting task for some people. Before GAF I looked at forums as nothing more than something to goof around in and troll till you get tired. Fuck what anyone else thinks cuz I'm on the internet right? Who cares. That attitude I had was quickly squashed when my GAF account got approved. I only got banned once and it was my fault for trying to derail a topic by posting an orgasm meme image. But as much as GAF is famous for being a games forums, It's Off-Topic where I, real talk, had my ignorant toxic views on certain people challenged and changed. If it wasn't for GAF I would have fallen for GG, MRA, and any other dumbass toxic ideology.
I can't speak on people who had a problem with the moderation. I wasn't afraid to say what I had to say. I always viewed my opinions as fair and often times just basic common sense. Like, I'm sorry but, if you want to die on a hill just to defend a Nazi's free speech I gotta call you out. Yeah, some mods jumped the gun, which you saw mostly in the Gaming side, but overall the moderation, to me, was needed. I didn't want another forum to be swamped with trolls and "I wasn't serious bro" hot takes. I don't mind goofing off in a forum but I also want to learn. Make something worthwhile. Cuz if a forum is nothing more than just "HYPE LEVELS OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!" then I'm not gonna engage with the community.
By Kabro Go To PostPretty sure some nlf gaffers are posting on the nfl thread already. Bring them over. Except for lunchbox. Hes a celtic fan heathenI don't know who or where LunchBox is now. I haven't read about his father's fine Italian Dinners and Yachts in ages.
By RumbleHumble Go To PostOutrage culture didn't kill Neogaf. Tyler killed it by allegedly raping someone and banning/locking any discussion about it.
yes
By silva1991 Go To PostThis week's UK chartsMake a thread lol
"Sony debut at No1 with ‘Gran Turismo Sport’, launched on Wednesday 18th October and this is a first outing on PS4 – original ‘Gran Turismo’ launched on PS1 back in week 19, 1998 and the last version was ‘Gran Turismo 6’ on PS3 back in week 49, 2013 – ‘GT Sport’ has a better week 1 units than both of these but is nowhere near the series high of 2010’s ‘Gran Turismo 5’ (week 1 was over 3 times higher)"
1 GRAN TURISMO: SPORT
2 FIFA 18
3 SOUTH PARK: THE FRACTURED BUT WHOLE
4 WWE 2K18
5 MIDDLE-EARTH: SHADOW OF WAR
6 THE EVIL WITHIN 2
7 DESTINY 2
8 GRAND THEFT AUTO V
9 FORZA MOTORSPORT 7
10 CRASH BANDICOOT N.SANE TRILOGY
.
.
16 FIRE EMBLEM WARRIORS
https://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110015
By Not Go To PostLet's try not making people who come into the thread looking for discussion feel like outsiders about to be collectively shunned at any moment. If you've got an argument against what a user is saying, let them hear it, don't just talk about them like you're objectively "better" than them. Everyone has to learn somehow, and most do adjust their viewpoint when people approach them with sympathy AND firmness, not just one or the other.
Apologies. Comment redacted. Just got a little peeved when the comments started moving into condescending territory. You're right though.
By Thunder Monkey Go To PostI dunno.Was in our life time marital rape was legal. Not dealt with in all states till 93 if I recall.
Humans seem pretty complex to me. Sometimes they stay in damaging relationships for a myriad of reasons.
It in no way excuses Tyler from being a creepy little fuck.
By silva1991 Go To PostThis week's UK chartsFriend, make a thread. Dont be shy
"Sony debut at No1 with ‘Gran Turismo Sport’, launched on Wednesday 18th October and this is a first outing on PS4 – original ‘Gran Turismo’ launched on PS1 back in week 19, 1998 and the last version was ‘Gran Turismo 6’ on PS3 back in week 49, 2013 – ‘GT Sport’ has a better week 1 units than both of these but is nowhere near the series high of 2010’s ‘Gran Turismo 5’ (week 1 was over 3 times higher)"
1 GRAN TURISMO: SPORT
2 FIFA 18
3 SOUTH PARK: THE FRACTURED BUT WHOLE
4 WWE 2K18
5 MIDDLE-EARTH: SHADOW OF WAR
6 THE EVIL WITHIN 2
7 DESTINY 2
8 GRAND THEFT AUTO V
9 FORZA MOTORSPORT 7
10 CRASH BANDICOOT N.SANE TRILOGY
.
.
16 FIRE EMBLEM WARRIORS
https://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110015
By Random Ass Username Go To PostBiases nothing. People hook up with abusive or predatory folks constantly. Don't leave abusive relationships. Doesn't make the shit they endure any less awful or the folks who do it any less awful. It's how folks are socialized. Benefit of the doubt. Stick with what you know. Etc, etc. And predators look for folks who got broken meters because they're easier to manipulate.They certainly do, and that certainly happens. The question is is that what happened here? The gaps in knowledge and some of the stuff coming out subsequently at least call into question the absolute confidence of that conclusion. Not that it should eliminate or minimize it.
Clearly this woman had a reason she confided in that community and attention-seeking me-tooism seems low on the probability of why she would. But there still is a gap between what you said, and a guy that crossed a line but not enough to end the friendship and subsequently be physically involved. So maybe it was pretty dark, or maybe it was bad and wrong but not quite as bad as many initially assumed.
By silva1991 Go To PostThis week's UK chartsYou're free to create a specific topic for it :)
Or just use the general gaming topic for now :
http://slaent.com/thread/1003732/page/220/
By Jonm Go To PostThey certainly do, and that certainly happens. The question is is that what happened here? The gaps in knowledge and some of the stuff coming out subsequently at least call into question the absolute confidence of that conclusion. Not that it should eliminate or minimize it.
Clearly this woman had a reason she confided in that community and attention-seeking me-tooism seems low on the probability of why she would. But there still is a gap between what you said, and a guy that crossed a line but not enough to end the friendship and subsequently be physically involved. Which both seem plausible given what we have at our disposal.
I mean, some women are literally physically tortured and still remain in relationships, right?
By RumbleHumble Go To PostOutrage culture didn't kill Neogaf. Tyler killed it by allegedly raping someone and banning/locking any discussion about it.I don't think anyone accused him of rape. I think what happened was multiple women came forward with stories about how he was inappropriately sexually aggressive with them and their public revelations led to him taking gaf off-line seemingly. Unwanted sexual advances are awful and difficult enough to deal with on their own, but rape is a whole different level and I don't think anyone has accused him of rape.
By Random Ass Username Go To PostWas in our life time marital rape was legal. Not dealt with in all states till 93 if I recall.I was ten.
Twisted shit.
By Not Go To PostI know you're afraid of things somehow going too far in the other direction, and it'll be a dystopian hellscape where women will universally be allowed to slander innocent men with no repercussions whatsoever, but trust me, TRUST ME, that's not gonna happen in your lifetime, if it ever will. The structures of power are firmly in place. Men control the world, the media, the discussion, the culture. Women are still only believed when men speak up for them.
If some random woman is lying, as a man, you'll be fine. You'll continue to be fine. But the women who are and have been telling the truth will not be. Because "women" are a monolith in our culture. A giant group to be stereotyped and generalized over. If one woman lies, they all did. That hardly ever, ever applies to men. At least on a comparative scale.
You'll make much more progress towards equality and true justice in the world around you by standing up for women in our society by default than believing that men somehow regularly need protection from them.
Lurking here and while I was legit hurt by some stuff that happened to me back on Gaf one month or so ago, it's unimportant. Reading the comments here and I just want to say it: THIS.
By Jonm Go To Postand a guy that crossed a line but not enough to end the friendship and subsequently be physically involved.
People do this. It's not new. Doesn't make the behaviors and actions they recall in a relationship or before one any less worrisome or awful. How do you and some others feel about people who stay in relationships with their rapists?
I'm loving peeps bringing over old content, will help spur discussions and make it seem like they never left. Oh, also (and probably on the list of to-dos) a function for clicking a users profile and seeing past posts would be ace!
By Angelus Errare Go To PostIt shouldn't raise any alarms with anyone who understands how victims (especially women due to societal pressures placed upon them to handle the emotional trauma and how society places blame on them for the actions of men making them question if they (the women) are the ones overreacting or not).That they hocked up after it and it didn't end in bad terms, pretty much shows, how this was an private incident, which got resolved in a private matter. The whole shit storm happened, because people completely misunderstand the events in Hollywood and were on a Witch Hunt. In Hollywood we had an extreme case of misusing power and using the power to sexual assault woman, since they wanted to keep or get a job.
What happened with Tyler was a sexual assault on eye-level, which was the result of alcohol and misunderstandings. He didn't misuse his power, since he didn't had power over her and didn't use it (like for example physical power). But he overstepped as a friend and got to feel consequences in private. I still don't get, why she got the feeling to go public with it or being afraid of a backslash, since it wasn't of public interest.
The story alone shouldn't have the consequences, we feel now (expect people loving their witch hunt too much). But the problem is all the oil, which was already spilled under Tyler's feet (from him and others) and him not able to handle the lighter, which was thrown at him. If your team leaves, because you can't give them a good explanation ... then it was at the end still his fault as a manager and leader,m which brought the site down.
By Kabro Go To PostFriend, make a thread. Dont be shy
By Pennywise Go To PostYou're free to create a specific topic for it :)
Or just use the general gaming topic for now :
http://slaent.com/thread/1003732/page/220/
I honestly don't even know how and I didn't even know there are other threads for GAFers lol. Still not used to the layout of this site(only founout about it early today and created an account immediately)...
Thanx for the link Pennywise
By NaughtyRskl Go To PostAnd i would advise you to be more critical of others, female or male. Your parents should have educated you about this.And i'd advise you to relate opinions with out insults.
Reposting this for newcomers not wanting to filter back pages (and I myself only stumbled on it just before):
Essentially new layout for searching more in-depth discussions.
Essentially new layout for searching more in-depth discussions.
By Thunder Monkey Go To PostI was ten.Then mommy or daddy could have raped each other and the other would have no legal recourse. isn't our society and its baggage swell.
Twisted shit.
So just to be clear, footyGAF was football GAF and not some foot fetish subculture, right?
ElBoxyBrown, you were one of my favourite posters to read on GAF. Honored to be posting on the same forum as you (and many others who I haven't been able to call out yet).
ElBoxyBrown, you were one of my favourite posters to read on GAF. Honored to be posting on the same forum as you (and many others who I haven't been able to call out yet).
By uncelestial Go To PostProbably not a GREAT idea to be using pills as their design motif considering the existence of r/redpill and the circumstances of GAF's closure.It's meant to be reset button.
By Not Go To PostI mean, some women are literally physically tortured and still remain in relationships, right?Well yeah. Extreme for sure, but it certainly does happen.
And it is certainly possible this was at a minimum an abusive relationship.
But right now we only really know Tyler did this creepy thing, they remained friends after, they got physical eventually at some future date, they broke off and she confided in her circle about the initial incident as a negative moment in her life recently. Than Tyler's behavior of purging his site and shutting it down.
Was the reason they remained friends and got physical because Tyler was emotionally abusive and manipulative? IDK, maybe? Based on his Europe shit he seems like a bit of douche(to put it mildly), but he also doesn't exactly strike me as the type that is emotionally intelligent enough to manipulate someone on that level(including trying to enter the shower of a girl that just threw up, more date-rapey vibe than manipulative). Just my own observations and his lack of relationship IQ. But at the same time I don't dismiss the possibility because I just don't have anything to fill in the gaps of knowledge so I am assuming and then assuming about my assuming.
By silva1991 Go To PostThis week's UK chartsThank you.
"Sony debut at No1 with ‘Gran Turismo Sport’, launched on Wednesday 18th October and this is a first outing on PS4 – original ‘Gran Turismo’ launched on PS1 back in week 19, 1998 and the last version was ‘Gran Turismo 6’ on PS3 back in week 49, 2013 – ‘GT Sport’ has a better week 1 units than both of these but is nowhere near the series high of 2010’s ‘Gran Turismo 5’ (week 1 was over 3 times higher)"
1 GRAN TURISMO: SPORT
2 FIFA 18
3 SOUTH PARK: THE FRACTURED BUT WHOLE
4 WWE 2K18
5 MIDDLE-EARTH: SHADOW OF WAR
6 THE EVIL WITHIN 2
7 DESTINY 2
8 GRAND THEFT AUTO V
9 FORZA MOTORSPORT 7
10 CRASH BANDICOOT N.SANE TRILOGY
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.
16 FIRE EMBLEM WARRIORS
https://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110015
By Eorl Go To PostReposting this for newcomers not wanting to filter back pages (and I myself only stumbled on it just before):That's not showing up for me.
Essentially new layout for searching more in-depth discussions.
By NaughtyRskl Go To PostNo im not a woman, but what makes you think i don't have the right to suspect one of bullshit or criticise one ?
You one of them dudes who posts "believe women" religiously on twitter and self flagellate on social media for any girl that says she got cat called ?
Look, sexual harassment and rape is no joke, and i know women suffer it more than men, but from that to taking every suspicious story that comes from one as the absolute truth without anything to back it up is a stretch my mind won't take. (even more so when the facts make it seem more like a lover's spat and revenge than anything).
Irrespective of this particular incident, evillore by his own admission has committed sexual assault in the past (2012 incident + revenge porn). He also displayed no remorse or self awareness for his particular behaviour and if that means the community no longer wants to associate with him. Well power to them, because finally we are starting to see real repercussions for perpetrators of assault.
By Watershed Go To PostI don't think anyone accused him of rape. I think what happened was multiple women came forward with stories about how he was inappropriately sexually aggressive with them and their public revelations led to him taking gaf off-line seemingly. Unwanted sexual advances are awful and difficult enough to deal with on their own, but rape is a whole different level and I don't think anyone has accused him of rape.
Ive followed this since the moment the facebook post broke and all the facts we have are these:
The girl made a facebook posts were she mentions:
- the creep and her were on a trip
- she was in a relationship with another dude
- they both got drunk in his/hers/theirs hotel room
- she got so drunk she got sick, barfed and went to take a shower
- the drunk creep was horny and got naked and went in uninvited
- she refused his sexual advances
- the creep got mad, started being rude to her
After this things get complex
- she says her relationship with her BF suffered after this ( we don't know why)
- she breaks up with her BF (we don't know why)
- she mentions for Kotaku that she continued her friendship with the creep, and eventually got "physical"
- she mentions they broke up sometimes during E3 2015
So this is ALL the facts we have, nothing more nothing less.
Was Evilore a douche, a creep ? Totally !
Does her story have some spots that need addressed before everyone calls for the execution and castration of Evilore ? YES
Did the folks on Neogaf overeact and brought the whole house down under the weight of rediculous outrage ? YES
Are they doing the same thing here ? Seems like it.
The cover up always seems worst than the offense from the outside looking in. Enough was enough.
And if the story being circulated about a response having been seen before staff walked--that's telling and they deserve kudos despite how long this type of behavior had been previously known.
And if the story being circulated about a response having been seen before staff walked--that's telling and they deserve kudos despite how long this type of behavior had been previously known.
I kinda hate how the downfall of gaf has been tangled up and obfuscated by members of the alt right. I mean I have been visiting gaf for around 10 years, 7 of which were as a member, and I typically had a fantastic time on the site. The community was for the most part incredibly welcoming and pleasant. I also feel the format of the site and way it was used to news consumption was fairly unique, and will be sorely missed. That being said, EL's behaviour looks to be another example pervasive sexism in our culture, which warrants serious discussion. Instead the issue seems to be being co-opted by trolls who would rather smear the site and community due to it being a fairly inclusive place for discussion. After looking up the #resetera tag on twitter, it looks like they have already started trying to throw the new site into the dirt.
By NaughtyRskl Go To PostIve followed this since the moment the facebook post broke and all the facts we have are these:
The girl made a facebook posts were she mentions:
- the creep and her were on a trip
- she was in a relationship with another dude
- they both got drunk in his/hers/theirs hotel room
- she got so drunk she got sick, barfed and went to take a shower
- the drunk creep was horny and got naked and went in uninvited
- she refused his sexual advances
- the creep got mad, started being rude to her
After this things get complex
- she says her relationship with her BF suffered after this ( we don't know why)
- she breaks up with her BF (we don't know why)
- she mentions for Kotaku that she continued her friendship with the creep, and eventually got "physical"
- she mentions they broke up sometimes during E3 2015
So this is ALL the facts we have, nothing more nothing less.
Was Evilore a douche, a creep ? Totally !
Does her story have some spots that need addressed before everyone calls for the execution and castration of Evilore ? YES
Did the folks on Neogaf overeact and brought the whole house down under the weight of rediculous outrage ? YES
Are they doing the same thing here ? Seems like it.
Why you doin so much. What's in it for you.
By SuperEpicMan Go To PostI kinda hate how the downfall of gaf has been tangled up and obfuscated by members of the alt right. I mean I have been visiting gaf for around 10 years, 7 of which were as a member, and I typically had a fantastic time on the site. The community was for the most part incredibly welcoming and pleasant. I also feel the format of the site and way it was used to news consumption was fairly unique, and will be sorely missed. That being said, EL's behaviour looks to be another example pervasive sexism in our culture, which warrants serious discussion. Instead the issue seems to be being co-opted by trolls who would rather smear the site and community due to it being a fairly inclusive place for discussion. After looking up the #resetera tag on twitter, it looks like they have already started trying to throw the new site into the dirt.They're losing everything so everyone else has to burn with them.
By LyleLanley Go To PostMy issue with the modding, at least in threads that involved serious discussion, on GAF was that it allowed for very little nuance. Someone would say something deemed offensive and instead of getting a legit chance to explain themselves they'd be quoted dozens of times with some gifs or snarky comments and then they'd be banned.
Posters in general seemed to get really horny for a good banning. For example, the constant bish gifs when he was a mod.
Yeah, people just assumed the worst of you by default. I remember around the time Dr. Dre joined Apple, I made a thread wondering if Apple should really be hiring a guy who beat a woman in public for the dumbest of reasons. And Angelus Errare immediately accused me of singling out Dre for his race, and asking why I wasn't talking about John Lennon (uh, because he's dead and didn't just join Apple?). I'm a dude who supports BLM, reformation of policing, and the kneeling protests, but apparently I'm also a racist. And hey, I won't pretend that I don't see color, or that it doesn't affect my perception of people, consciously or sub-consciously. But to the best of my knowledge, Dre's past with women would've bothered me even if he was white..
I ended up agreeing with Angelus's central argument: that Dre had done his time for his crime, that he hasn't been a repeat offender in the 20+ years since, etc. But why did Angelus start off with an attack on my character? Isn't the whole point of a discussion forum to discuss shit?
GAF was an excellent news-aggregator and a great place to get some well-informed perspectives, but boy was it shit for discussions. Like you said, there was no allowance for nuance. Everything dissenting would get interpreted as dog-whistling. That mentality came from Evilore, and filtered through the moderators he chose, and infected the community. I even probably got caught up in it sometimes.
It would be nice if ResetEra had mods without hang-ups and baggage this time around. But that's a pretty tall order to ask of any geek community. Surprise surprise, adults who have an obsessive love for what was originally intended to be children's fare tend to be kinda odd, myself included.
By RumbleHumble Go To PostOutrage culture didn't kill Neogaf. Tyler killed it by allegedly raping someone and banning/locking any discussion about it."Outrage culture didn't kill Neogaf. Now let me accuse Malka of rape despite having no evidence and the notion going contrary to what the victim said."
Even if you're one of the people that want to give the benefit of the doubt to the victim every time out of actual concern and good intentions, this kind of unsubstantiated bullshit is the exact reason why NeoGAF became insufferable.
I just wanna know what got posted in the modchat or where ever that made them just go "lol fuck this." Had to have been something. The shit was circulating before that exodus.
By silva1991 Go To PostI honestly don't even know how and I didn't even know there are other threads for GAFers lol. Still not used to the layout of this site(only founout about it early today and created an account immediately)…Don't worry.
Thanx for the link Pennywise
It's made from scratch and therefore a bit different to the usual forum software.
When you're on the main page you've got the three sub sections "Sports" "Life" "Entertainment". Just click on them. The entertainment section is for gaming and that's where both the community topics are (people created the Final Fantasy community, Easy Allies and more) and the specific game topics are.
If you want to create a specific topic, be sure to browse through here :
http://slaent.com/thread/377498/
Enjoy your time here.
So I only just found out about the GAF news this morning. I figured the site being down yesterday was just a case of server issues... Really conflicted about how to feel about this. GAF has been my home on the internet for the past decade, and my one and only go to site for gaming news and discussions. I'm curious what will happen to GAF, and more importantly its user base. I saw slaent getting a ton of mentions so I'm touching down here for the time being. Let's see if it pans out.