Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao May 2nd
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Floyd Mayweather announced today via Shots app where he posted a picture of the signed contract with the following message:
Fight will take place at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
What the world has been waiting for has arrived. Mayweather vs. Pacquiao on May 2, 2015, is a done deal. I promised the fans we would get this done, and we did. We will make history on May 2nd. Don't miss it! This is the signed contract from both fighters.
Fight will take place at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
Five years ago, it would have been sensational. Now, Manny just gonna get worked. Shame.
Will still watch because I need to see the Mayweather pre-match madness :lol
Will still watch because I need to see the Mayweather pre-match madness :lol
Manny really is getting set up for a loss, but he'll be handsomely compensated.
Filipino community is gonna feel this one.
Filipino community is gonna feel this one.
By nathanFive years ago, it would have been sensational. Now, Manny just gonna get worked. Shame.
Will still watch because I need to see the Mayweather pre-match madness :lol
Manny would have gotten worked back then because he would forced to stop the PED's.
would've been the fight of the forever if they fought 5 years ago.
whatever, i'll take it, but it wont be as epic.
whatever, i'll take it, but it wont be as epic.
By VlatkoA few years too late but okay.
By nathanFive years ago, it would have been sensational.
By TubieWould've been great to watch them fight 4-5 years ago, but I'll still watch this.
By viakadowould've been the fight of the forever if they fought 5 years ago
This board needs multiquote.
I have nothing to add that has not already been said.
If they fought 5 years ago, the only difference would have been the possibility of Manny getting knocked out due to Floyd's hands not being brittle as fuck. The difference in speed/athleticism, technical ability (offensively and defensively), reaction speed/reflexes, etc. is far too big - and that's always been the case. Manny's weakness has always been defensive counter punchers, and Floyd is the best in the business.
By harSonIf they fought 5 years ago, the only difference would have been the possibility of Manny getting knocked out due to Floyd's hands not being brittle as fuck. The difference in speed/athleticism, technical ability (offensively and defensively), reaction speed/reflexes, etc. is far too big - and that's always been the case. Manny's weakness has always been defensive counter punchers, and Floyd is the best in the business.
Exactly what I have been saying forever.
By Zero ToleranceWhat if I told you it did?By VlatkoA few years too late but okay.By nathanFive years ago, it would have been sensational.By TubieWould've been great to watch them fight 4-5 years ago, but I'll still watch this.By viakadowould've been the fight of the forever if they fought 5 years ago
This board needs multiquote.
I have nothing to add that has not already been said.
By Zero ToleranceBy VlatkoA few years too late but okay.By nathanFive years ago, it would have been sensational.By TubieWould've been great to watch them fight 4-5 years ago, but I'll still watch this.By viakadowould've been the fight of the forever if they fought 5 years ago
This board needs multiquote.
I have nothing to add that has not already been said.
There is a multiquote...
3 or 4 or so years ago Manny may have gotten his ass whopped slightly less bad than he will right now.
Glad to see sensible folks in here.
Since we all seem in agreement that floyd is the better fighter. Assuming he wins this fight where does floyd rank in the all time greats?
I mean I was thinking about it this morning, having beaten Mosley, Oscar and (assuming victory) pac man, Marquez, cotto like he has beaten some extremely fucking talented fighters.
I don't buy into the whole timing thing too much either. Floyd doesn't exactly have access to some fountain of youth himself. I think for me he's top 10 and probably even top 5 of all time fighters.
Thoughts?
Since we all seem in agreement that floyd is the better fighter. Assuming he wins this fight where does floyd rank in the all time greats?
I mean I was thinking about it this morning, having beaten Mosley, Oscar and (assuming victory) pac man, Marquez, cotto like he has beaten some extremely fucking talented fighters.
I don't buy into the whole timing thing too much either. Floyd doesn't exactly have access to some fountain of youth himself. I think for me he's top 10 and probably even top 5 of all time fighters.
Thoughts?
By Scabro3 or 4 or so years ago Manny may have gotten his ass whopped slightly less bad than he will right now.
^This?
As a fight fan Older guys fighting at the end of their career is normal just be happy its happening because sometimes guys avoid each other their whole careers
By Shanks D ZoroFloyd going for the easy fighting, should be fighting Amir.
I said that to my friend yesterday. Amir might be the better fighter now but he still doesn't have enough of a high profile. Its on him to have another strong fight against a known fighter to become better known to have a chance at earning that PBF fight. But yeah Amir's fight vs. Alexander was amazing. I didn't know he could be so good and I've watched him for years.
By KidjrGlad to see sensible folks in here.He wins. He's the p4p of his era.
Since we all seem in agreement that floyd is the better fighter. Assuming he wins this fight where does floyd rank in the all time greats?
I mean I was thinking about it this morning, having beaten Mosley, Oscar and (assuming victory) pac man, Marquez, cotto like he has beaten some extremely fucking talented fighters.
I don't buy into the whole timing thing too much either. Floyd doesn't exactly have access to some fountain of youth himself. I think for me he's top 10 and probably even top 5 of all time fighters.
Thoughts?
I don't like breaking down boxing or fighting to all time list. The science has changed so much that it's hard to nail down who was the best.
Ali is probably the only guy you could ever nail down as the best. The people after him on the list are all debatable to an ad nauseam level.
Floyd is the greatest boxer of all time, in my mind. He's just so classy (in the ring).
He'd have won this fight easily at any point in time.
He'd have won this fight easily at any point in time.
While no fault of Floyd, how can he rank higher than Ali whose competition was the greatest of all time in the heavywright division? And he lost the nest years of his career.
Personally of the opinion that almost all sports have continually improved over time, with sports science improvements.
It's hard to say how much nostalgia and rose tinted specs play a part when remembering legends of sport.
Not a boxing expert in the slightest though, and I definitely couldn't argue against Ali.
It's hard to say how much nostalgia and rose tinted specs play a part when remembering legends of sport.
Not a boxing expert in the slightest though, and I definitely couldn't argue against Ali.
The sport's so different than what it used to be. It's like comparing Pele with Maradona with Zidane with Messi; changes throughout just mean it's a fool's game trying to say the best is the best although messi is the fucking best
Mayweather's the greatest of his generation by some distance, and will be remembered as being so.
Mayweather's the greatest of his generation by some distance, and will be remembered as being so.
Easy work for Floyd. I like how people are pre-emptive damage controlling with excuses saying it should have happened a while ago like if the results would be any different.
By MorisManny really is getting set up for a loss, but he'll be handsomely compensated.
Filipino community is gonna feel this one.
They still refuse to accept the time he got knocked out...
By blackaceYou go with whoever pops in your head. Sometimes it's Money, sometimes it's Marciano, sometimes it's Sugar.By rvyAli.
Tyson.
Maybe Floyd.
Fact.
It's hard to rank after Ali and Mike…
By rvyBy blackaceYou go with whoever pops in your head. Sometimes it's Money, sometimes it's Marciano, sometimes it's Sugar.By rvyAli.
Tyson.
Maybe Floyd.
Fact.
It's hard to rank after Ali and Mike…
Hagler nor Hearns never get enough love imo...
By blackaceHagler nor Hearns never get enough love imo…They get lost in the shuffle a lot, yeah. Hagler especially.
By Dreams-VisionsBy blackaceDamn sure is.By rvyAli.
Tyson.
Maybe Floyd.
Fact.
It's hard to rank after Ali and Mike…
Always start a list and delete it like 100 times and only have
Ali
Mike
sitting at one and two...
Roy Jones gets no love.
Well, he did do a lotta shit music though. Must subtract some points.
And he never had any good opponents, really.
Well, he did do a lotta shit music though. Must subtract some points.
And he never had any good opponents, really.
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A guide to Mayweather-Pacquiao
Originally Published: January 23, 2015
By Dan Rafael | ESPN.com
Since Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao made it official on Friday evening that they would at long last square off in the biggest fight in boxing in decades -- and one of the biggest fights in the more than 100-year history of the sport -- there have been so many questions about the particulars of the event.
Mayweather-Pacquiao
Where: MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas
When: May 2, 9 p.m. ET/PT
TV: Showtime/HBO PPV
Only the basics have been announced: The fight will take place on May 2 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas and be televised on pay-per-view produced a distributed jointly by rival networks Showtime, which has a contract with Mayweather, and HBO, which has Pacquiao under contract.
So what about the rest? I will try to answer, to the best of my knowledge, many of the numerous questions that I have been asked about the fight in the past few days.
What weight will they fight at?
The maximum weight is the welterweight limit of 147 pounds.
What titles will be a stake?
Mayweather and Pacquiao will be meeting to unify their three alphabet belts. Mayweather will be defending his WBC and WBA titles, as well as the lineal championship, while Pacquiao will be defending his WBO belt. Unofficially, the winner of the fight will be regarded as the pound-for-pound king and cement his legacy as the No. 1 fighter of the era.
What's the fight called?
No fancy title -- simply Mayweather-Pacquiao. Mayweather wanted his name first and Pacquiao had no issue with that. Mayweather also will receive the other champion's perks, meaning he will walk to the ring last and be introduced last.
What's the word on the tickets?
There has not yet been any announcement about the ticket specifics yet but one thing you can count on is that they will be very expensive, if you can even get one. The all-time gate record for a fight was set by Mayweather's 2013 blockbuster with Canelo Alvarez. It generated a little more than $20 million in tickets sales to the MGM Grand Garden Arena. Organizers of Mayweather-Pacquiao are looking to scale the house to produce a gate of about $40 million from the sale of probably a little more than 16,000 tickets. The highest priced tickets are expected to have a record face value of $5,000 with the cheapest ticket being $1,000.
However, with such heavy demand for tickets from the promoters, networks and casino (who have to pay for their tickets) it is doubtful more than a few hundred, maybe 1,000 tickets will be offered for public sale. If there is a public sale no date has been announced.
Since tickets will be so scarce what about the price of the pay-per-view?
Again, no official announcement on the price but expect it to be more than the usual pay-per-view, which for a major fight is typically between $60 and $75, depending on if you buy it in standard definition or high definition. Mayweather-Pacquiao likely will carry a price tag of about $89.95 with many cable and satellite providers tacking on another $10 for HD. That means you're probably looking at about $100 for the PPV in HD.
Is there a rematch clause?
As surprising as it may seem, there is no rematch clause for either fighter. If it's a great fight and the demand is there for a rematch certainly they could make another deal for a second fight. But according to both sides there is nothing that will contractually bind them to a second fight regardless of the outcome. As an aside, I am told that this was not a major point of contention during the negotiations.
What's the word on the drug testing?
The first time Mayweather and Pacquiao tried make a deal to fight in late 2009 and early 2010 all of the deal points had been agreed to except for the method of drug testing, and the fight fell apart. Mayweather demanded that both fighters undergo random Olympic-style blood and urine testing leading up to the fight and in the post-fight. Pacquiao did not want to do it Mayweather's way. Now they are in agreement.
The United States Anti-Doping Agency, which Mayweather has used to test himself and his opponents for years, will handle the testing in conjunction with the Nevada State Athletic Commission. Pacquiao has used the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association, which is similar to USADA, in some recent fights but agreed to use Mayweather's preferred testing agency.
Contrary to some reports, sources with knowledge of the agreement said there is no financial penalty to either fighter -- reportedly $5 million -- in the contract in the event of a failed test.
What's the deal with the gloves?
According to sources with direct knowledge of the contract, the gloves each boxer will use are specifically spelled out in the agreement. Each will stick to the usual brand of gloves they typically use. That means Mayweather will wear Grant gloves and Pacquiao will wear Reyes. Because the fight is a welterweight bout they will each wear 8-ounce gloves, as per Nevada State Athletic Commission rules.
Since HBO and Showtime are teaming up for the pay-per-view who will call the fight?
According to multiple sources, it will be a joint effort. James Brown, best known for hosting the NFL studio show on CBS, Showtime's parent company, is slated to host the pay-per-view telecast. The fight is expected to be called by a team of blow-by-blow announcer Jim Lampley (HBO) and analysts Al Bernstein (Showtime) and Roy Jones Jr. (HBO). Max Kellerman (HBO) and Jim Gray (Showtime) are expected to handle the reporter/interview roles. As far as unofficial scoring of the bout, HBO's Harold Lederman and Showtime's Steve Farhood are both expected to score the fight.
Will there be a "24/7" build-up show or an "All Access"?
HBO hypes its pay-per-view fights with "24/7" documentaries while Showtime does the same with its "All Access" series. For this fight, according to sources from both networks, they will not employ either, although there will be programming in advance of the bout. The plan now is for each network to produce a documentary on its fighter to air during the lead up to the fight.
Who will be the ring announcer?
There will be two, Hall of Famers Michael Buffer and Jimmy Lennon Jr. Buffer ("Let's get ready to rumble!!!!") has been the regular HBO ring announcer for years, even though he is an independent contractor, while Lennon ("It's Showtime!!!") has been the primary Showtime ring announcer for many years. They will share duties, as they did when HBO and Showtime did their only other joint pay-per-view in 2002 for the Lennox Lewis-Mike Tyson heavyweight championship fight.
Buffer and Lennon are expected to handle it in a similar fashion. That means Buffer would bring Pacquiao into the ring and introduce him with Lennon doing the same for Mayweather, his network's fighter. In the event of a knockout, the network whose fighter wins would have its ring announcer proclaim the result. If it goes to a decision they would alternate reading the scorecards and decision so as not rob the world of the drama.
What's the word on the undercard?
Typically, major pay-per-view cards have four televised bouts, the main event and three undercard fights. This one will have three -- the main event and then two undercard fights. One will be determined by Top Rank, Pacquiao's promoter, and one will be determined by Mayweather Promotions, Floyd's company. The two televised bouts have not been determined, but Top Rank's Bob Arum told ESPN.com his plan is to have featherweight titlist Vasyl Lomachenko make a defense in the Top Rank bout. As for non-televised fights, Top Rank will put on two additional bouts of its choice as will Mayweather Promotions, meaning seven total bouts on the card.
Will there be a cross-country promotional tour?
No. According to sources with knowledge of the contract, it stipulates that everyone involved must appear at only two press conferences. One to kick off the promotion will take place in mid-March as Pacquiao is expected to come to the United States from the Philippines around March 9. No site for that one has been set but it almost certainly will be in New York or Los Angeles. Then there will also be the standard final news conference during fight week at the MGM Grand.
How are they going to split all that money?
The Mayweather side gets 60 percent of the revenue and the Pacquiao side gets 40 percent of a fight that seems likely to gross more than $400 million.
How much will each man make?
That is not clear exactly because so much of what they will earn will come from what the pay-per-view sells. The more it sells the more they make. But ballpark you're looking at Mayweather making well in excess of $100 million and Pacquiao making a bit less.
Remember, about half of the gross revenue generated by the pay-per-view goes to the cable and satellite providers. Millions more will go to cover expenses and pay promoters, managers and HBO and Showtime.
A guide to Mayweather-Pacquiao
Originally Published: January 23, 2015
By Dan Rafael | ESPN.com
Since Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao made it official on Friday evening that they would at long last square off in the biggest fight in boxing in decades -- and one of the biggest fights in the more than 100-year history of the sport -- there have been so many questions about the particulars of the event.
Mayweather-Pacquiao
Where: MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas
When: May 2, 9 p.m. ET/PT
TV: Showtime/HBO PPV
Only the basics have been announced: The fight will take place on May 2 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas and be televised on pay-per-view produced a distributed jointly by rival networks Showtime, which has a contract with Mayweather, and HBO, which has Pacquiao under contract.
So what about the rest? I will try to answer, to the best of my knowledge, many of the numerous questions that I have been asked about the fight in the past few days.
What weight will they fight at?
The maximum weight is the welterweight limit of 147 pounds.
What titles will be a stake?
Mayweather and Pacquiao will be meeting to unify their three alphabet belts. Mayweather will be defending his WBC and WBA titles, as well as the lineal championship, while Pacquiao will be defending his WBO belt. Unofficially, the winner of the fight will be regarded as the pound-for-pound king and cement his legacy as the No. 1 fighter of the era.
What's the fight called?
No fancy title -- simply Mayweather-Pacquiao. Mayweather wanted his name first and Pacquiao had no issue with that. Mayweather also will receive the other champion's perks, meaning he will walk to the ring last and be introduced last.
What's the word on the tickets?
There has not yet been any announcement about the ticket specifics yet but one thing you can count on is that they will be very expensive, if you can even get one. The all-time gate record for a fight was set by Mayweather's 2013 blockbuster with Canelo Alvarez. It generated a little more than $20 million in tickets sales to the MGM Grand Garden Arena. Organizers of Mayweather-Pacquiao are looking to scale the house to produce a gate of about $40 million from the sale of probably a little more than 16,000 tickets. The highest priced tickets are expected to have a record face value of $5,000 with the cheapest ticket being $1,000.
However, with such heavy demand for tickets from the promoters, networks and casino (who have to pay for their tickets) it is doubtful more than a few hundred, maybe 1,000 tickets will be offered for public sale. If there is a public sale no date has been announced.
Since tickets will be so scarce what about the price of the pay-per-view?
Again, no official announcement on the price but expect it to be more than the usual pay-per-view, which for a major fight is typically between $60 and $75, depending on if you buy it in standard definition or high definition. Mayweather-Pacquiao likely will carry a price tag of about $89.95 with many cable and satellite providers tacking on another $10 for HD. That means you're probably looking at about $100 for the PPV in HD.
Is there a rematch clause?
As surprising as it may seem, there is no rematch clause for either fighter. If it's a great fight and the demand is there for a rematch certainly they could make another deal for a second fight. But according to both sides there is nothing that will contractually bind them to a second fight regardless of the outcome. As an aside, I am told that this was not a major point of contention during the negotiations.
What's the word on the drug testing?
The first time Mayweather and Pacquiao tried make a deal to fight in late 2009 and early 2010 all of the deal points had been agreed to except for the method of drug testing, and the fight fell apart. Mayweather demanded that both fighters undergo random Olympic-style blood and urine testing leading up to the fight and in the post-fight. Pacquiao did not want to do it Mayweather's way. Now they are in agreement.
The United States Anti-Doping Agency, which Mayweather has used to test himself and his opponents for years, will handle the testing in conjunction with the Nevada State Athletic Commission. Pacquiao has used the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association, which is similar to USADA, in some recent fights but agreed to use Mayweather's preferred testing agency.
Contrary to some reports, sources with knowledge of the agreement said there is no financial penalty to either fighter -- reportedly $5 million -- in the contract in the event of a failed test.
What's the deal with the gloves?
According to sources with direct knowledge of the contract, the gloves each boxer will use are specifically spelled out in the agreement. Each will stick to the usual brand of gloves they typically use. That means Mayweather will wear Grant gloves and Pacquiao will wear Reyes. Because the fight is a welterweight bout they will each wear 8-ounce gloves, as per Nevada State Athletic Commission rules.
Since HBO and Showtime are teaming up for the pay-per-view who will call the fight?
According to multiple sources, it will be a joint effort. James Brown, best known for hosting the NFL studio show on CBS, Showtime's parent company, is slated to host the pay-per-view telecast. The fight is expected to be called by a team of blow-by-blow announcer Jim Lampley (HBO) and analysts Al Bernstein (Showtime) and Roy Jones Jr. (HBO). Max Kellerman (HBO) and Jim Gray (Showtime) are expected to handle the reporter/interview roles. As far as unofficial scoring of the bout, HBO's Harold Lederman and Showtime's Steve Farhood are both expected to score the fight.
Will there be a "24/7" build-up show or an "All Access"?
HBO hypes its pay-per-view fights with "24/7" documentaries while Showtime does the same with its "All Access" series. For this fight, according to sources from both networks, they will not employ either, although there will be programming in advance of the bout. The plan now is for each network to produce a documentary on its fighter to air during the lead up to the fight.
Who will be the ring announcer?
There will be two, Hall of Famers Michael Buffer and Jimmy Lennon Jr. Buffer ("Let's get ready to rumble!!!!") has been the regular HBO ring announcer for years, even though he is an independent contractor, while Lennon ("It's Showtime!!!") has been the primary Showtime ring announcer for many years. They will share duties, as they did when HBO and Showtime did their only other joint pay-per-view in 2002 for the Lennox Lewis-Mike Tyson heavyweight championship fight.
Buffer and Lennon are expected to handle it in a similar fashion. That means Buffer would bring Pacquiao into the ring and introduce him with Lennon doing the same for Mayweather, his network's fighter. In the event of a knockout, the network whose fighter wins would have its ring announcer proclaim the result. If it goes to a decision they would alternate reading the scorecards and decision so as not rob the world of the drama.
What's the word on the undercard?
Typically, major pay-per-view cards have four televised bouts, the main event and three undercard fights. This one will have three -- the main event and then two undercard fights. One will be determined by Top Rank, Pacquiao's promoter, and one will be determined by Mayweather Promotions, Floyd's company. The two televised bouts have not been determined, but Top Rank's Bob Arum told ESPN.com his plan is to have featherweight titlist Vasyl Lomachenko make a defense in the Top Rank bout. As for non-televised fights, Top Rank will put on two additional bouts of its choice as will Mayweather Promotions, meaning seven total bouts on the card.
Will there be a cross-country promotional tour?
No. According to sources with knowledge of the contract, it stipulates that everyone involved must appear at only two press conferences. One to kick off the promotion will take place in mid-March as Pacquiao is expected to come to the United States from the Philippines around March 9. No site for that one has been set but it almost certainly will be in New York or Los Angeles. Then there will also be the standard final news conference during fight week at the MGM Grand.
How are they going to split all that money?
The Mayweather side gets 60 percent of the revenue and the Pacquiao side gets 40 percent of a fight that seems likely to gross more than $400 million.
How much will each man make?
That is not clear exactly because so much of what they will earn will come from what the pay-per-view sells. The more it sells the more they make. But ballpark you're looking at Mayweather making well in excess of $100 million and Pacquiao making a bit less.
Remember, about half of the gross revenue generated by the pay-per-view goes to the cable and satellite providers. Millions more will go to cover expenses and pay promoters, managers and HBO and Showtime.
For this fight, according to sources from both networks, they will not employ either, although there will be programming in advance of the bout. The plan now is for each network to produce a documentary on its fighter to air during the lead up to the fight.
But I wanted 24/7.
All Access is shit, the 24/7 narrator is better and they don't even list the music used in their website. Terrible.
By rvyRoy Jones gets no love.
Well, he did do a lotta shit music though. Must subtract some points.
And he never had any good opponents, really.
Jones is one on my favorite boxers ever... but he wasn't ready to move up in weight class when he did..
He is fighting Willie Williams March 6th
By blackaceOh my God.By rvyRoy Jones gets no love.
Well, he did do a lotta shit music though. Must subtract some points.
And he never had any good opponents, really.
Jones is one on my favorite boxers ever… but he wasn't ready to move up in weight class when he did..
He is fighting Willie Williams March 6th
By rvyAli.Top two are correct but the third spot is hard to choose. I'd probably go with Floyd but on another day it could change.
Tyson.
Maybe Floyd.
Fact.
Kinda OT however....... Is Andre Ward ever gonna fucking fight again? I like him, he's a great announcer but fight someone.....
On top of all that, we all know who the most feared(maybe one of the best) boxer is right now right????
Cotto don't want none.
On top of all that, we all know who the most feared(maybe one of the best) boxer is right now right????
Cotto don't want none.
By SlizzKinda OT however……. Is Andre Ward ever gonna fucking fight again? I like him, he's a great announcer but fight someone…..
On top of all that, we all know who the most feared(maybe one of the best) boxer is right now right????
Cotto don't want none.
Ward needs to realise that he's not a draw despite being the best in his division. Sucks for him but that's life.
I have to echo the general sentiment of the fight being far too late. Will I find somewhere to watch it? Yes. Do I care about it or think the result means anything? No.
And lol @the the suggestion of Tyson being a number two of all time. Just no.
