Politics | 2017 | Decent human being defeats literal pedophile and piece of shit in a close senate election, signaling hope to America

By Random Ass Username Go To PostHere we go with this one aspect shit and I'm the reductionist. Lord hammercy.

By Random Ass Username Go To PostHere we go with this one aspect shit and I'm the reductionist. Lord hammercy.

yes

Healthcare is much more than the right to end a pregnancy, especially one more fraught with complications. People die in child labor. But it's whatever. Healthcare is so much more than the two biggest fucking things a woman's body can through, pregnancy and birth.

This entire comment is dripping in sarcasm and is reductionist as fuck. Saying Kasich is bad on healthcare because of abortion when millions are without insurance and die constantly (something he wants to help change) is also reductionist as fuck. Lacking the ability to see why I'm separating these two issues to talk about a man is just being intentionally obtuse so you can be reductionist as fuck. I await your next one liner which I'm sure will be more simplified gobbledygook so you can feel morally superior to the rest.

I mean it's nice to see that Kasich has changed his tune after seeing how unpopular obamacare repeal is now

By Fenderputty Go To PostWhat part of "he's bad on women's" right is ignoring how he treats women? I'm removing that single element out of healthcare because healthcare is much much more. Stop twisting my words and meanings …. now.
BTW … I know what's going on at a state level. Kasich just tried to fuck with abortion rights again regarding downs.

And organizations like planned parenthood do so much more than just abortion and yet Kasich still chose to sign a bill to defund it. I don't know why you keep trying to highlight one positive that to cover up years of him being a regular Republican

I rarely feel morally superior at all, I get tired of "semantics" and "pragmatism" so people can feel better about tossing women under buses. Always this shit. You're the one who keeps doing mental gymnastics to try to square your definition of healthcare so you can then say in the same instance "but I do care about women." It doesn't fly with me no matter how many times you post or call me this or that. Nor does what your mom has to say carry any weight with me. You can leave with that.

By cashman Go To PostI mean it's nice to see that Kasich has changed his tune after seeing how unpopular obamacare repeal is now
And organizations like planned parenthood do so much more than just abortion and yet Kasich still chose to sign a bill to defund it. I don't know why you keep trying to highlight one positive that to cover up years of him being a regular Republican

He was worse regarding nationalized healthcare. He is no longer worse regarding nationalized healthcare. All the things that planned parent hood takes care of that aren't abortions could be solved by nationalized healthcare. Breast screenings, paps etc etc. I'm highlighting the one positive because a good position on nationalized healthcare is a good reason for me to vote republican over a pedophile democrat. The question that spawned this entire debate and Random's moralized self wanking.

By Random Ass Username Go To PostI rarely feel morally superior at all,

You probably should have stopped there instead of continuing on with all that morally superior bullshit then

Sorry if the truth hurts, I'm not the only one who took umbrage with that statement of yours and all it represented.

By Fenderputty Go To PostHe was worse regarding nationalized healthcare. He is no longer worse regarding nationalized healthcare. All the things that planned parent hood takes care of that aren't abortions could be solved by nationalized healthcare. Breast screenings, paps etc etc. I'm highlighting the one positive because a good position on nationalized healthcare is a good reason for me to vote republican over a pedophile democrat. The question that spawned this entire debate and Random's moralized self wanking.

Whew, that's a relief. I thought Kasich actually signed a bill that drastically effected health care accessibility for millions of Ohians

Guys, I think you need to hug it out:

By cashman Go To PostWhew, that's a relief. I thought Kasich actually signed a bill that drastically effected health care accessibility for millions of Ohians

Women don't count brosef. That's not health care. Or if it is, it's just one aspect. And then we should just be pragmatic.

-Signed your Morally Smug whatever I'm to be called next.

By cashman Go To PostWhew, that's a relief. I thought Kasich actually signed a bill that drastically effected health care accessibility for millions of Ohians

There's a reason I said "nationalized healthcare" and brought up how "nationalized healthcare" would take care of 97% of what planned parenthood does for women is because it's NATIONAL and not on a STATE level. At a state level republicans will always fuck with abortion. The question, again since you all seems to keep dismissing this, would you vote for a republican over a pedophile dem and I think my choice for Kasich because he didn't want to kick 23 million of their insurance this last year a good mark. At this point I'm convinced Random is the inverse of the shit stains in Alabama that voted for Moore until he gives me reason to think otherwise.

By Random Ass Username Go To PostWomen don't count brosef. That's not health care. Or if it is, it's just one aspect. And then we should just be pragmatic.

-Signed your Morally Smug whatever I'm to be called next.

Honest question. Single payer is on the table but federal funding for abortions needs to be removed to pass. Do you do it?

To answer your question I would rather not vote at all then vote for Republican in those circumstances. Thankfully, since Dems have at least the bare minimum of decency in their party, they wouldn't back a candidate of that nature on the national level like Republicans did with Moore.

I mean ... it felt like you guys (mostly Random and you) think I actually like Kasich or his overall policy when I was just thinking of literally anything that separates any republican from the current pack. I brought up McMullin, but like Gondo mentioned he's really just anti trump. If I'm going to do more than abstain I would want something in return than just being anti trump. My first option was to abstain if you actually read back to the start of this. Then I thought "Hmmm Kasich railed against the GOP efforts to kill Obamacare and actually has some progressive vies on drug rehab" and then Random took my healthcare comment (because I'm literally just thinking of the healthcare fight in congress) and ran with it on some tangent that I don't care for women.

Maybe consider being less flippant about the whole subject and calling me morally superior or whatever for finding such statements crude and effectively part of the problem when it comes to giving women the actual gamut of healthcare they deserve.

By Random Ass Username Go To PostMaybe consider being less flippant about the whole subject and calling me morally superior or whatever for finding such statements crude and effectively part of the problem when it comes to giving women the actual gamut of healthcare they deserve.

Your first comment to me was that "I don't care for women" and you think I'm flippant? Go fuck yourself, again. If you would have taken some time to read what lead to my post instead of being a reactionary douche this could have all been avoided.

You didn't do that though. You removed context, insinuated that I don't care for women's rights and a whole mess of other shit all because I'm playing an online hypothetical of a reverse Alabama.

Maybe "morally superior" isn't what I should have said because it seems like you just like to think you're superior. Your shit stinks, man.

By Fenderputty Go To PostI mean … it felt like you guys (mostly Random and you) think I actually like Kasich or his overall policy when I was just thinking of literally anything that separates any republican from the current pack. I brought up McMullin, but like Gondo mentioned he's really just anti trump. If I'm going to do more than abstain I would want something in return than just being anti trump. My first option was to abstain if you actually read back to the start of this. Then I thought "Hmmm Kasich railed against the GOP efforts to kill Obamacare and actually has some progressive vies on drug rehab" and then Random took my healthcare comment (because I'm literally just thinking of the healthcare fight in congress) and ran with it on some tangent that I don't care for women.

For me personally Kasich's attacks on women's healthcare make him an automatic no for me, no matter what his other views on healthcare are. Just like I wouldn't vote for anybody who supported DACA and a path to citizenship, but fully supported the Muslim ban.

The fuck happened here

Or you could not just throw flippant glib shit around about Kasich not overturning Roe v Wade in spite of defunding PP and putting down statewide limitations? Like what was that statement supposed intended to do? Or the continued women's rights is different from healthcare? Any of it? It's tired old shit that only assists in creating a chasm between the healthcare women receive vs the healthcare they should receive. We're a developed nation that shits all over women getting basic fundamental healthcare with even so called dems consistently taking the road of "well fuck them too but it's a compromise and pragmatic so they can kick rocks." And from you I keep getting insults about my moral superiority when I consider such facetious discussions about "one aspect" of healthcare to epitomize so much of the problem in retaining full healthcare for women. Like it's some kind of ancillary process to their healthcare on the whole when it is frankly the backbone or bedrock to many of their healthcare issues especially if they're on the pill or unable to be pregnant or conceive without problems. This continued narrative where their health concerns are continually handwaved by supposed allies is just unconscionable. And if not wanting them left to undergo unwanted pregnancies makes me some kind of morally superior asshole so be it.

I think New England Republicans like Charlie Baker and Bill Weld are fine.

Not great, but there’s a reason these guys are not viable GOP’ers at a national level

Yup I’m just removing “morally” next time you act like this ...

By cashman Go To PostFor me personally Kasich's attacks on women's healthcare make him an automatic no for me, no matter what his other views on healthcare are. Just like I wouldn't vote for anybody who supported DACA and a path to citizenship, but fully supported the Muslim ban.

This is fair. It’s not an easy thing for me to rationalize in this thought exercise. I started with the tax debate mentally, but nobody stood out here. They’re all mostly shitty on immigration. The ones that were good all went right cause of Trump in the primaries. There’s currently very few republicans separating themselves from the pack by any metric. It’s so bad we’re celebrating Flake making his meaningless anti trump quips while voting with him virtually 100% of the time. Kasich just happens to be one of the few currently not trying to kick people off of their insurance.

By HasphatsAnts Go To PostThe fuck happened here

Apparently a miscommunication that stemmed from someone’s inability to learn context leading up to a post before they make accusations

By Fenderputty Go To PostApparently a miscommunication that stemmed from someone’s inability to learn context leading up to a post before they make accusations

Kinda funny considering the recent back n forth

No moore

By FortuneFaded Go To PostNo moore

How do he and his followers square this result with God’s plan? Lol



Great read if anyone is interested or

By Fenderputty Go To PostThe biggest issue with healthcare is quality of care affordability and availability. Abortion is only one aspect of pregnancy and birth too. You're really a reductive asshole aren't you?

Only one aspect l m a o

It's only the very fucking thing women need access to to have self determination over their own body, and especially since every time conservatives get something they start making miscarriages and other forms of abortion illegal as well. Kasich,and others, want to make it illegal to be a woman, but you wouldn't know this because you're the human equivalent of a VCR blinking 12:00.

He's so fucking guilty.

what the fuck lmao

Sigh ...

I’ll retread. The fight politicaly over healthcare is financial. It’s cost and availability. There are aspects of healthcare that are women’s rights issues too. I am not contesting this. There are other women’s rights issues like sexual harrasment and equal pay etc. Am I an asshole for calling those women rights issues instead of labor equality issues?

This isn’t even fucking debateble. We just had a healthcare fight in Congress that was 100% financially motivated. Guess what, they’re still trying to fuck healthcare financially through the removal of a tax. They’re also trying to fuck with healthcare via access by removing advertising for enrollments which has financial motivation. The fucks in congress use racial animus and evengelical issues like abortion to their advantage so people vote against their financial best fucking interests.

You’re all hanging me over a game of semantics on top of not even bothering to understand that my defense of Kasich was related to a fucking hypothetical GOP vs Dem pedophile vote like upside down Alabama

Now you continue on being the clock that’s always an hour off

no one is hanging you lol

its just funny that we tell you that a lot of the 'issues' that dems say that they stand for they actually don't until its convenient - all while asking for votes on sustained commitment. they can blame financial reasons, the times, seats, etc. but that's the thing, its always something. we'll get around to women and minorities and poor people in just a bit. meanwhile, lets compromise with the party that runs on straight up fucking you. also bernie is the devil, don't believe his lies.

only thing i will laugh profusely over is your statement of 'incremental gains' or something close a while back. its stuff that feels great to say but is truly a smack in the face for someone on the receiving end of bullshit policy and routine election season dance numbers.

By TheHunter Go To Post

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He's so fucking guilty.

SCHMIDT: What’s your expectation on Mueller? When do you —

TRUMP: I have no expectation. I can only tell you that there is absolutely no collusion. Everybody knows it. And you know who knows it better than anybody? The Democrats. They walk around blinking at each other.

SCHMIDT: But when do you think he’ll be done in regards to you —

TRUMP: I don’t know.

SCHMIDT: But does that bother you?

TRUMP: No, it doesn’t bother me because I hope that he’s going to be fair. I think that he’s going to be fair. And based on that [inaudible]. There’s been no collusion. But I think he’s going to be fair. And if he’s fair — because everybody knows the answer already, Michael. I want you to treat me fairly. O.K.?

What in the actual fuck lol

lmao i want the movie to be fair too

I tried to read the article but the rambling was just too much for me. Beyond the normal lack of complete sentences there was a disturbing amount of incomplete thoughts like he can't focus.

By DY_nasty Go To Postno one is hanging you lol

Using semantics to say I don’t care about women or their issues is what?

its just funny that we tell you that a lot of the 'issues' that dems say that they stand for they actually don't until its convenient - all while asking for votes on sustained commitment. they can blame financial reasons, the times, seats, etc. but that's the thing, its always something. we'll get around to women and minorities and poor people in just a bit. meanwhile, lets compromise with the party that runs on straight up fucking you. also bernie is the devil, don't believe his lies.

only thing i will laugh profusely over is your statement of 'incremental gains' or something close a while back. its stuff that feels great to say but is truly a smack in the face for someone on the receiving end of bullshit policy and routine election season dance numbers.

You know I’ve openly acknowledged that my optimism regarding pragmatism is easier from my position as a non minoroty.

I’m also never using the rising tides argument. I was also the one here calling bullshit on economic anxiety in place for racial animus from the start. I’ve argued with Gondo over this as I don’t feel offering socialist paradise will get dems rural white votes. I realize a lot of people will fuck themselves over if it fucks over a minoeoty too.

One of my biggest concerns after 2016 was that the Dems would drop minoroty issues in place of attracting racist sexists in the rust belt! The pragmatist is upset at Saint Bernard for fucusing his campaign on white working class in the rust belt while ignoring the south.

We’ve argued about incremimental gains multiple times. Both in substance (actual gains like gay marriage) and in possible future effectual gains (I brought up racial demographic changes about the shrinking white male in America)

I believe I have a long track record of giving a fuck. So yeah, I take offense to the implication that I don’t care about women because of some semantical game about healthcare vs women’s rights in a hypothetical pedo vs Kasich matchup. There isn’t even a republican who’s for a women’s right to choose. If there is we don’t know about them for a reason. How the fuck could I even use that as a metric to separate one from the fucking pack.

I don’t know if I agree pot is that big of a winner nationally. It feel more regional still. Maybe that’s because of bias on my part?

I do think it’s at the point where it isn’t a loser though

I don’t think it’s a winning strategy to go try to convince those motivated by racial animus to vote for Dems. You might peel of some of these voters with a populist message but that should be considered a bonus and not the primary aim.

I do think that there are lots of disillusioned non-voters who can be mobilized.

By KingGondo Go To PostI don’t think it’s a winning strategy to go try to convince those motivated by racial animus to vote for Dems. You might peel of some of these voters with a populist message but that should be considered a bonus and not the primary aim.

I do think that there are lots of disillusioned non-voters who can be mobilized.

I suppose this is a theory behind the pot angle too. I think it’s possibke but not likely. I was reading that people as a whole who make under 50k a year voted overwhelmingly dem. The white demographic, on the other hand, voted for Trump
at every income level. I suppose we’re both skeptical of something

By Fenderputty Go To PostYou know I’ve openly acknowledged that my optimism regarding pragmatism is easier from my position as a non minority.

Hey Fender, not that this is related to anything, or even anybody's business, nor is there any point behind it, but out of curiosity, how White actually are you?

Are you blonde or brunette?

Being blonde makes you more white than being brunette?

Trump is guilty as fuck. My brain hurts from reading interviews he takes part in, what a fucking moron

By Smoke Dogg Go To PostHey Fender, not that this is related to anything, or even anybody's business, nor is there any point behind it, but out of curiosity, how White actually are you?

Are you blonde or brunette?

I’m not pasty lol

One of my favorite trump clips

Clearly a genius.

Yes why don't people just buy more money.

Aside from everything else that’s obviously wrong with that statement what would buying stock even accomplish. There’s no correlation

"Why can't all you poor people be rich like me so you can get richer? Stop being lazy."

By s y Go To PostOne of my favorite trump clips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nekPGQBvcgQ

Yeah this is stunningly good. If you wrote this for Veep, people would think you were being too on the nose.

The information that Mr. Papadopoulos gave to the Australians answers one of the lingering mysteries of the past year: What so alarmed American officials to provoke the F.B.I. to open a counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign months before the presidential election?

It was not, as Mr. Trump and other politicians have alleged, a dossier compiled by a former British spy hired by a rival campaign. Instead, it was firsthand information from one of America’s closest intelligence allies.

Welp there goes that talking point.

By s y Go To PostOne of my favorite trump clips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nekPGQBvcgQ

Taking credit for a black man's work.

By his admittedly low standards, this is the most competent thing he's done in office.