By Dark PhaZe Go To PostI just don't understand how education is so lost on some of these people. Do you want to wait for some CEO to make a meaningful change to your wages or offer you the chance to work a shit job that just barely allowed you to live paycheck to paycheck or do you want a fair chance at empowering yourself to do better? There's such an odd dissonance in regards to the mentality of the lower class republican. "I'll die before I take a handout! Bootstraps!" But not even give a shit if the ladder to success is covered in toxic sludge with spikes all over it.
People don't like change. The only path to betterment that isn't government involvement requires change for these people (think coal or manufacturing). It's a catch 22. Areas that need educational training to bring in jobs aren't getting training because those jobs don't exist. Jobs won't relocate unless the people are educated. The only real option is government involvement but both Dems and especially republicans don't put the types of investment into these areas that need re-purposing.
By Random Ass Username Go To PostSmoke Dogg just for reference Flint didn't go to Trump. When accusing entire states of being aint shit, you might want to not shit on the urban areas which predominantly vote against GOP/Trumpite shit.
See? Blue as fuck. Far as the rest of it they probably couldn't give a fuck less about a mostly minority and liberal urban population having lead in the water.
This is partly misleading. Flynt absolutely had weaker numbers comparatively between 2012 and 2016 for democrats.
https://www.npr.org/2016/11/15/502032052/lots-of-people-voted-for-obama-and-trump-heres-where-in-3-charts
Same for Detroit. There are reasons for this, of course, but you guys are removing context between your back and forth when the truth is somewhere in the middle. Currently, most of the rust belt aint shit IMO.
Well that's the thing the current divisions we have, and I'm sure this sounds radical, are thanks to anachronistic and antiquated ideas, lines drawn by previous generations that were all about the agendas of land owners, industrialists and other nobles. As a result, and not just here, ignore even just the social issues of racism, xenophobia and religious fervor, it's why elections and regions in general are so tumultuous. The people in cities are always going to have different priorities from those in the rural sphere and vice versa. Around the world entire cultures have been bred to localized regions. You can't just draw lines on top of them and call it a day. We're hitting a lot of the remnants of white imperialism and how badly it's fucked things up. It's patently ridiculous that cities or the rural sphere should really have to compromise on some things, they should be led by entirely different sets of people. Someone will say ahh but we have districts and counties but by and large they do not dictate federal and state funds or priorities.
Take for instance gun laws. I'm mostly a city dwelling person but I've been in plenty of remote places where bears, wolves, coyotes and fucked up individuals reside. You should be able to arm yourself when any law is 45 min away or the wildlife could chew you up and spit you out. Far as within city limits? I don't think it's particularly necessary to be armed with the same shit at all. Now why should laws be made prioritizing either of those over the other? Or even compromising this issue? Ban some shit like crazy magazines or even AR-15s but far as gun ownership in general or what types the conversation rarely rests establishing culture, region and even livelihood of some individuals (ranchers, even small tribes that game hunt etc). We don't do nuance in this country, we refuse to change some obviously stupid shit that results in people consistently clashing and it's going to ensure fuck all progress actually gets done.
Take for instance gun laws. I'm mostly a city dwelling person but I've been in plenty of remote places where bears, wolves, coyotes and fucked up individuals reside. You should be able to arm yourself when any law is 45 min away or the wildlife could chew you up and spit you out. Far as within city limits? I don't think it's particularly necessary to be armed with the same shit at all. Now why should laws be made prioritizing either of those over the other? Or even compromising this issue? Ban some shit like crazy magazines or even AR-15s but far as gun ownership in general or what types the conversation rarely rests establishing culture, region and even livelihood of some individuals (ranchers, even small tribes that game hunt etc). We don't do nuance in this country, we refuse to change some obviously stupid shit that results in people consistently clashing and it's going to ensure fuck all progress actually gets done.
lol just about the only real similarity between Trump and Churchill was being too old and hyperfocused on dumb shit and in the highest office of the land. Other than that Churchill was a actual statesman who could fucking write and speak.
Honestly Trump wouldn't have been elected in 1936. There was no precedent for a spoiled Dotard to be a world leader until 1980 America. People would of laughed at him and then gone and voted for an actual politician.
By Zeus Ex Machina Go To PostHonestly Trump wouldn't have been elected in 1936. There was no precedent for a spoiled Dotard to be a world leader until 1980 America. People would of laughed at him and then gone and voted for an actual politician.A guy like Trump doesn't even 'have' to run for president in 1936 though. He'd essentially be a king within private sector.
By FortuneFaded Go To PostThey're both racists so I guess they have that in common
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/24/business/trump-administration-nursing-home-penalties.html?smid=fb-share
This type shit is what inevitably makes me real sick and will stick around.
This type shit is what inevitably makes me real sick and will stick around.
The Trump administration is scaling back the use of fines against nursing homes that harm residents or place them in grave risk of injury, part of a broader relaxation of regulations under the president.Fuckin' christ. Knowing how abusive these places are I don't buy this shit
Dr. Kate Goodrich, director of clinical standards and quality at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, said in a statement that unnecessary regulation was the main concern that health care providers raised with officials.for a fucking second.
“Rather than spending quality time with their patients, the providers are spending time complying with regulations that get in the way of caring for their patients and doesn’t increase the quality of care they provide,” Dr. Goodrich said.
every family gathering this year has me getting drunk and going on a rant about trump and fuckery. ima crazy person
By FreezePeach Go To Postevery family gathering this year has me getting drunk and going on a rant about trump and fuckery. ima crazy person
My family gatherings lacked all political discussion, which was nice
That’s a bold strategy.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-legal-team-readies-attack-on-flynns-credibility/2017/12/27/bc601324-ea78-11e7-b698-91d4e35920a3_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-legal-team-readies-attack-on-flynns-credibility/2017/12/27/bc601324-ea78-11e7-b698-91d4e35920a3_story.html
President Trump’s legal team plans to cast former national security adviser Michael T. Flynn as a liar seeking to protect himself if he accuses the president or his senior aides of any wrongdoing, according to three people familiar with the strategy.
By Method Go To Postof course they will. everyone are liars except us!
They're fucked and they know they're fucked legally. Only chance is to muddy the waters publicly to avoid any political backlash.
Lol forgot I even had this girl as a friend on FB but just noticed I was unfriended since I said all Republicans deserve a box of shit on Christmas. I just posted a link to the Mnuchin article where he literally got delivered a box of shit.
Looked at her page and she’s white, from Georgia, and heavily religious. Then under political views it says “conservative all the way”🙃. Funny thing is I mainly waste time shitting on Republicans and apparently this was the last straw or the first time she actually saw a post from me lol.
Looked at her page and she’s white, from Georgia, and heavily religious. Then under political views it says “conservative all the way”🙃. Funny thing is I mainly waste time shitting on Republicans and apparently this was the last straw or the first time she actually saw a post from me lol.
By Fenderputty Go To PostWhat are the evangelical voters to do though?Pray
At least she told me I must be a "swell guy". Guess I don't have them moral values to vote for someone like Roy Moore.
By FortuneFaded Go To PostWould you vote for a pedophile Democrat or a Republican?hell no.
Why is it so hard arguing with libertarians about economics? You can post all the data backing up an argument and they start quoting numbers that means nothing.
McMullin is a Republican, therefore he's garbage just like every other Republican.
Opposition to Trump isn't a virtue, it's basic decency.
Opposition to Trump isn't a virtue, it's basic decency.
By KingGondo Go To PostMcMullin is a Republican, therefore he's garbage just like every other Republican.
Opposition to Trump isn't a virtue, it's basic decency.
This is pretty funny to me because it implies garbage can be decent.
Something every current acting republican lacks btw. If the choice is a pedophile or basic decency, the choice is clear.
Opposition to Trump is "decent" in the sense that it's the lowest possible bar to clear, especially for a supposed public leader.
The image rehabilitation of people like Dubya, Romney, Huntsman, Kasich, etc. makes me sick. They set the table for Trump and are much more dangerous in a way with their "aw shucks" brand of conservatism.
It's a nonsense hypothetical anyways, since Dems would force someone like that to drop out of the race.
The image rehabilitation of people like Dubya, Romney, Huntsman, Kasich, etc. makes me sick. They set the table for Trump and are much more dangerous in a way with their "aw shucks" brand of conservatism.
It's a nonsense hypothetical anyways, since Dems would force someone like that to drop out of the race.
By KingGondo Go To PostOpposition to Trump is "decent" in the sense that it's the lowest possible bar to clear, especially for a supposed public leader.Mitt Romey would not be a Trumpian level Republican or even a Bush level Republican.
The image rehabilitation of people like Dubya, Romney, Huntsman, Kasich, etc. makes me sick. They set the table for Trump and are much more dangerous in a way with their "aw shucks" brand of conservatism.
It's a nonsense hypothetical anyways, since Dems would force someone like that to drop out of the race.
In the present day there is no such thing as a “moderate Republican”. A moderate Republican is a Democrat.
By TheHunter Go To PostMitt Romey would not be a Trumpian level Republican or even a Bush level Republican."Respectable Republicans" are in favor of the same shit as Trump, they're just housetrained.
They don't like that Trump has traded in the dog whistle for a bullhorn.
By KingGondo Go To Post"Respectable Republicans" are in favor of the same shit as Trump, they're just housetrained.
I'm not even a Kasich fan but this isn't totally fair to the man. He's bad on women's rights and abortion, but he's really good on healthcare. He actively campaigned to keep Obamacare and hated the GOP plans. He's slightly more progressive when it comes to drug use and punishment too.
It is sad though. The tea party really pushed the GOP into realms I can't ever get on board with. There used to be more nuance. Ask this question 20 years ago and I bet we could all name 15+ republicans we would consider voting for.
By Fenderputty Go To PostI'm not even a Kasich fan but this isn't totally fair to the man. He's bad on women's rights and abortion, but he's really good on healthcare.lmao
By FortuneFaded Go To Post
This is the guy who's literally enabling Putin to undermine the US and trying to act against sanctions. He's not even Chamberlain, at least that guy knew where the enemy was.
I honestly think it's gotten to a point where right wing beliefs boil down to nothing more than alpha gorilla posturing. They've become so intellectually vapid and ethically compromised that they have absolutely nothing else left.
Trump makes grumpy faces = tough guy = hero who'll stand up to villains.
That is literally the level of thinking they're acting on here, staggering degrees of real life actions and evidence to the contrary. He hasn't stood up to anybody except North Korea, which he has of course gone about in the most guileless way imaginable and accomplished nothing but legitimating Kim Jong Un to his own people as the guy who's not afraid of the American imperialists who openly threaten to kill them.
By Fenderputty Go To PostI'm not even a Kasich fan but this isn't totally fair to the man. He's bad on women's rights and abortion, but he's really good on healthcare. He actively campaigned to keep Obamacare and hated the GOP plans. He's slightly more progressive when it comes to drug use and punishment too.Against a literal pedophile Dem, maybe.
It is sad though. The tea party really pushed the GOP into realms I can't ever get on board with. There used to be more nuance. Ask this question 20 years ago and I bet we could all name 15+ republicans we would consider voting for.
The Republican Party has been an absolute cancer since Reagan at least. They are the driving force behind virtually all of the societal ills that plague the country today. The security state, the destruction of the welfare state, disastrous foreign interventionism, cruelty toward the most socially and economically vulnerable, not to mention economic inequality that is approaching Gilded Age levels.
They aren't just wrong, they're actively harmful and dangerous.
By cashman Go To Postlmao
Google "Kasich Obamacare" and then come back to me. He's no Bernie Sanders but compared to Republicans he a fucking saint.
Bro he's laughing at the fact that you're separating women's healthcare out to say the fuckass is good on healthcare.
Women don't matter to you. Half the population.
Fuckin' christ people sometimes.
Same shit different day, he's a good person if you don't count how he treats women.
Women don't matter to you. Half the population.
Fuckin' christ people sometimes.
Same shit different day, he's a good person if you don't count how he treats women.
By cashman Go To PostlmaoFucking hell Fender
By Random Ass Username Go To PostBro he's laughing at the fact that you're separating women's healthcare out to say the fuckass is good on healthcare.
Women don't matter to you. Half the population.
Fuckin' christ people sometimes.
Same shit different day, he's a good person if you don't count how he treats women.
I can see that angle, now. It is a healthcare issue, but I tend to place it more on the "women rights" scale. Ownership of their bodies etc. This is more semantics though and ignores my intent of the post.
By the way ... you can take your "women don't matter to you" comment and shove it right up your ass and go fuck off. Seriously. Lots of women, men and children are fucked regarding their healthcare simply because more republicans don't see healthcare like Kasich does and view it as a right or something that we as a nation should do for our citizens. Fuck this black and white bullshit. Motherfuckers can be dark gray or some other shade.
I'm also gonna laugh at the outcry from the left about Alabamans voting for a pedophile when it seems those on this board are having difficulty situations reversed.
Those semantic divisions are what keeps women from retaining rights, the shit you just pulled. "Oh that's not healthcare." It is black and white. Either women retain all their health options or they don't. Sorry you can't compromise some shit away and take the moral high ground.
By Random Ass Username Go To PostThose semantic divisions are what keeps women from retaining rights, the shit you just pulled. "Oh that's not healthcare." It is black and white. Either women retain all their health options or they don't. Sorry you can't compromise some shit away and take the moral high ground.
No actually I clairified that is healthcare, but for the purpose of that post I kept it separate as a woman's issue because healthcare is a more broad topic than abortion. This isn't an either or. Kasich isn't overturning Roe V Wade. Kasich could help shape our insurance system moving forward.
I'm not going to let people twist the meaning of my statement into some attack against women's rights.
He's good on healthcare just ignore how he treats women. Same shit different day.
Kasich isn't overturning Roe V WadeDude you're really far gone if you think Roe is the only thing worth defending since it's just been chipped at so hard on a state level, there are so few clinics/docs (some states either have one or pratically none), that's hundreds or thousands of miles to travel on top of timelines they must meet, invasive unnecessary ultrasounds and Hyde is still there doin' its thing to ensure they gotta pay outta pocket. I don't even know why I bother. People are such rubes about abortion. Oh Roe v Wade is okay though. Durr.
What part of "he's bad on women's" right is ignoring how he treats women? I'm removing that single element out of healthcare because healthcare is much much more. Stop twisting my words and meanings .... now.
BTW ... I know what's going on at a state level. Kasich just tried to fuck with abortion rights again regarding downs.
BTW ... I know what's going on at a state level. Kasich just tried to fuck with abortion rights again regarding downs.
By Random Ass Username Go To PostThose semantic divisions are what keeps women from retaining rights, the shit you just pulled. "Oh that's not healthcare." It is black and white. Either women retain all their health options or they don't. Sorry you can't compromise some shit away and take the moral high ground.Women aren't a monolith though. There is no agreed consensus among women about which rights women should and shouldn't have.
Healthcare is much more than the right to end a pregnancy, especially one more fraught with complications. People die in child labor. But it's whatever. Healthcare is so much more than the two biggest fucking things a woman's body can through, pregnancy and birth.
By FortuneFaded Go To PostWomen aren't a monolith though. There is no agreed consensus among women about which rights women should and shouldn't have.Kindly take this nonsense about other women dictating less bodily autonomy in spite of the fact that they do some shit themselves or can fly off to Canada or elsewhere to get some business done. We're not talking about "me me me" shit, we're talking about the fundamental right for women to have that conversation and procedure with their health providers and everyone else butting the fuck out, including other women.
By FortuneFaded Go To PostWomen aren't a monolith though. There is no agreed consensus among women about which rights women should and shouldn't have.
This is also true, my mother has issues with how far "women's rights" is used to support all forms of abortion.
By Random Ass Username Go To PostHealthcare is much more than the right to end a pregnancy, especially one more fraught with complications. People die in child labor. But it's whatever. Healthcare is so much more than the two biggest fucking things a woman's body can through, pregnancy and birth.
The biggest issue with healthcare is quality of care affordability and availability. Abortion is only one aspect of pregnancy and birth too. You're really a reductive asshole aren't you?