By Teiresias Go To PostIt was initially funded by Jeb at some point during the primary. Of course, Fox and the RNC and other right leaning outlets selectively leave that part out of their stories.And McCain was the one that brought it into the spotlight, it was dead before he decided to investigate it.
The RNC is why the dossier exists and is a problem for Trump. So of course, it's Clinton's fault.
By Ignatz Mouse Go To PostMy wife and I were listening to NPR Politics Podcast on the way to work, and discussing Flake. The guy seems to be against Trump based on his character/fitness, but still goes along with whatever policy is put in front of him. Disgusting. I'm not sure what he's trying to do except make his own reputation for being "the guy who didn't go along with Trump." (He did.)
It's about ethics in voting along party line nee
By RumbleHumble Go To PostHey guys, remember that mass shooting that made everyone say "Hey maybe gun modifications are gun control we can get behind!" Well, we live in 2017, so of course everyone stopped giving a fuck:
By Randolph Freelander Go To PostDonald Trump's xenophobia is the worst. This is the story of a man with 4 US Citizen children, in the country working and paying taxes since 1998, being taken by ICE while he was in the office filing for official permanent residency, and while being told he would get it.
Is it normal to be slightly depressed after reading news these days? This is saddening to see.
By rjinaz10 Go To PostUnless not being able to say the N word counts as discrimination, I can firmly say that in 34 years I have never felt discrimination for being White. These people are off their rocker.
Of course, it’s pretty much exactly that. Being told to stop being racist or sexist or whatever, to them it’s having “muh freedom” taken away. They think their speech is being repressed. Meanwhile, they project like motherfuckers by telling black people not to talk about oppression or white privilege, and that by doing so they’re the real racists.
It’s shit like this that makes me glad I’m so self-conscious. I’m fluent in the self-deprecation all white people desperately need these days. It’s really not enough to just try to act equal now. We fucking suck.
By Frankish Go To PostWhat's wrong with funding opposition research? I don't get this story.
It's a witch hunt, remember
By Fenderputty Go To PostIt's about ethics in voting along party line neeI still don't understand the world of politics. When your whole party is going down the drain and you start to revolt, why do senators still vote for their party? Why don't politicians in this situation actually stop this BS and vote against? What could possibly happen to them? It's not like it matters to them what the outcome is if they don't seek reelection.
By The Frankman Go To PostEDIT: nvm fake. I got got..Fake News Network confirmed
By TurokTTZ Go To PostIs it normal to be slightly depressed after reading news these days? This is saddening to see.I normally love October, but outside Evil Within 2, Wolfenstein, and Mario Odyssey, it's been pretty shitty.
By Randolph Freelander Go To PostThe president is a liar. (Shocking.) 401Ks could still be targets.
This is what Trump had tweeted
They need to find the money somehow
they really, really, really wanna fuck us middle class folk. another trump tweet, another lie by him and republicans. so tired of these POS
By Vinci Go To PostThank you both for the replies. Let me first state that predominantly I feel that blacks suffering from ill treatment due to the way institutions are structured should look for solidarity and coalition with other maligned groups first and foremost. This may already be happening, but it doesn't seem apparent to me from what I see on television or elsewhere. The specific details of how other groups are treated may differ, even dramatically, but it feels like we have a lot of segments but little unity.
I guess what I'm concerned about is that the right is able to vote as a cohesive bloc - as they principally target all 'otherness' with minimal difference as far they're concerned. This allows them to embolden and heighten anger and resentment, and an attack on 'traditional America', and it frankly gets their asses out to vote. It doesn't matter to them which specific instance or subject sparked the flame, it's the appeal to defend against the larger movement (from blacks asking for X, to transsexuals asking for Y) that motivates the bloc.
To them, it's all congealed into one blob of otherness that they are fighting against. The details matter less - the fundamental concept propels them.
By contrast, I feel like we have a lot of fires but limited to no cohesion or unity across them.
And here's the thing: I want to help. I'm doing what I can. But I see a case where it largely takes one news network to stoke the flames on their side, because fundamentally what it's doing is easy as all they're doing is giving kindling to the same underlying concept. In our case, things are scattered across specific news stories and get drowned out by other topics.
Don't get me wrong, I know gerrymandering and the electoral college hold healthy blame for where we are right now, but I'm also concerned that there feels like so little crossover on subjects that involve people who aren't our specific people. This goes for me as well, though to a large extent I'm activated by what's happening to others.
For what it's worth, I don't get my feelings hurt when people do yell about white guys and how everything is our fault, but the attitude of 'they'll survive' is not a healthy one when you need them to vote for your issues too.
Also, I'm new to these sort of debates and apologize if I'm offending anyone. Just exploring this sense of fragmentation on the left and unity on the right from a voting perspective.
Err, sorry man, I am going to have to disagree with a lot of what you said. First, us latinos have a LONG historg of supporting our African Americsn brothers and vice versa. Our civil rights groups have literally supported each other in all of the landmark education court cases through amicus briefs. I promise you our Congressional caucuses talk to one another as do our nonprofit institutions. It may not be rosy on the ground, partialy due to redlining amd gerrmandering that has a bonus effect of us fighting for scraps, but we do support each other.
You are right, its easier for the right to vote in a block, but that is because they are voting to maintain the status quo. We PoC are tires of the status quo. I understand your desire to frame it the way you do, but it has literally never worked like that.
Even if in the campaigns the left sticks to some vague sameness to appeal to white America, when they get into office they will get skewered because they didn't articulate why they are voting for change. E.g. I voted you in because you made me feel warm amd fuzzy! Why are you trying to regulate police!? That doesnt make me warm amd fuzzy!
And how do you think such campaigns would play out in communities of color? People like John Lewis literally got his ass beat walking with MLK. Hes not going to campaign like that. And I promise you, unless a lightning in the bottle like Obama shows up, we arent going to be energized long unless a politician addresses our unique problems, e.g. identity politics
Side note, identity politics when framed as helping the white working and middle class is never framed as identity politics, so the terminology is troubling in itself
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/10/25/democrats-pitch-medicaid-public-option-for-states/?utm_term=.1e607b304378
I like putting pressure on with a public option.
The State Public Option Act, sponsored by Sen. Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii) in the Senate and Rep. Ben Ray Luján (D-N.M.) in the House, would expand Medicaid from a program available only to Americans at or slightly above the poverty level, to a universal program anyone could buy into. Already, 18 Democrats in the Senate have co-sponsored the bill, including Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and most of the party’s potential 2020 presidential candidates.
I like putting pressure on with a public option.
I've been trying to ignore this "Cinton funded the dossier!" crap but it was just on the hall TV at work.
So, paying to investigate somebody is shady, put paying to get hackers involved is hunky-dory? Jesus christ.
So, paying to investigate somebody is shady, put paying to get hackers involved is hunky-dory? Jesus christ.
By Ignatz Mouse Go To PostI've been trying to ignore this "Cinton funded the dossier!" crap but it was just on the hall TV at work.
So, paying to investigate somebody is shady, put paying to get hackers involved is hunky-dory? Jesus christ.
It fits the witchhunt narrative. "see I told you it was the Dems out to get me!"
Clinton still triggers people enough too.
By Randolph Freelander Go To PostThe president is a liar. (Shocking.) 401Ks could still be targets.That's ok. Trump will just blame it on somebody else once people realize their 401ks were hit, and the gullible masses will believe him, especially if he throws out a Clinton or Obama name drop.
This is what Trump had tweeted
By Fenderputty Go To Posthttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/10/25/democrats-pitch-medicaid-public-option-for-states/?utm_term=.1e607b304378
I like putting pressure on with a public option.
This is great policy. Should have been in the ACA to begin with but I'll take this.
By Frankish Go To PostThis is great policy. Should have been in the ACA to begin with but I'll take this.They tried to have it in the ACA but it wouldn't pass.
By rjinaz10 Go To PostThat's ok. Trump will just blame it on somebody else once people realize their 401ks were hit, and the gullible masses will believe him, especially if he throws out a Clinton or Obama name drop.
Nah their tax plan is polling almost as bad as their healthcare plan. The healthcare plan number contained people upset it wasn't harsh enough too. People are legitimately going to be pissed.
That 401k stuff would kill the bill if it manages to get in
This feels like the ACA repeal where they have these hairbrain schemes that they’re positive will work and end up crashing the whole thing
This feels like the ACA repeal where they have these hairbrain schemes that they’re positive will work and end up crashing the whole thing
By Ignatz Mouse Go To PostI've been trying to ignore this "Cinton funded the dossier!" crap but it was just on the hall TV at work.
So, paying to investigate somebody is shady, put paying to get hackers involved is hunky-dory? Jesus christ.
Ari Fleischer had the "best" take.
(For those who may not remember, Fleischer served as GWB's press secretary)
(And he is an idiot.)
By Fenderputty Go To PostNah their tax plan is polling almost as bad as their healthcare plan. The healthcare plan number contained people upset it wasn't harsh enough too. People are legitimately going to be pissed.Well I meant specifically him lying in tweets, he won't be held accountable. I'd love to see people turn on the party but I still think somehow Trump dodges the blame. People want to believe Trump has their best interest in mind for some damn reason.
By Novis Go To PostThey tried to have it in the ACA but it wouldn't pass.
Fucking Lieberman.
By obijkenobi Go To PostErr, sorry man, I am going to have to disagree with a lot of what you said.
SNIP
Thank you for this. It was very informative. I promise to think about it further going forward. =)
By Randolph Freelander Go To PostTexas, watch outI was just about to post this. If they go full NC, it might just be the push that forces more activism and a harder pushback that makes Texas bluer.
Why this could be important
By Barzul Go To PostI was just about to post this. If they go full NC, it might just be the push that forces more activism and a harder pushback that makes Texas bluer.
More on Texas going full NC
Trump refusing to implement the Russia sanctions congress passed seems like it should be a bigger deal considering they are actively engaged in fucking us. Like why isnt that on the TV constantly?
How's trans issues poll in TX?
IT should be a big deal because he's not a fucking dictator. Imagine if Obama did this shit ...
By FreezePeach Go To PostTrump refusing to implement the Russia sanctions congress passed seems like it should be a bigger deal considering they are actively engaged in fucking us. Like why isnt that on the TV constantly?
IT should be a big deal because he's not a fucking dictator. Imagine if Obama did this shit ...
This interview with Charlie Sykes is a generally informative read. Sykes, if you recall, is or was a conservative radio host that was one of the rare to break against Trump in the last election.
By RDreamer Go To PostA single donor pitched in $17.9 million to fight the Garland nomination.Well, they gotta preserve their right to keep pouring infinite money into politics.
I said wow…
By RDreamer Go To PostA single donor pitched in $17.9 million to fight the Garland nomination.
I said wow…
SCOTUS isn't a political institution tho ...
Oh shit this seems huge: Cambridge Analytica reached out to Assange to team up on Clinton emails.
By RDreamer Go To PostOh shit this seems huge: Cambridge Analytica reached out to Assange to team up on Clinton emails.
Pay no attention here and please pay attention to the Clinton Uranium.
By RDreamer Go To PostOh shit this seems huge: Cambridge Analytica reached out to Assange to team up on Clinton emails.All the connections coming together.
Really wonder the timeline. Trump says on national tv “if you’re listening...” then Cambridge reaches out to Assange? Perhaps.
By Randolph Freelander Go To PostDonald Trump's xenophobia is the worst. This is the story of a man with 4 US Citizen children, in the country working and paying taxes since 1998, being taken by ICE while he was in the office filing for official permanent residency, and while being told he would get it.Between this and raiding sensitive areas like hospitals trying to deport new mothers, ICE has been acting like the Mukhabarat in Saudi Arabia. For those that don't know, it's the secret police. They whisk you away from the streets. We need fucking accountability here. It seems like they have been given an internal memo to go ahead and capture every undocumented immigrant in the country. Its maddening.
This is why I get so angry at those “deport them all” chucklefucks on every forum who never have their life together as much as this guy or anyone meeting the requirements of DACA.
By Megatherium Go To PostThis is why I get so angry at those “deport them all” chucklefucks on every forum who never have heir life together as much as this guy or anyone meeting the requirements of DACA.
There was one such person in the thread here on GAF. Very sad. Not sure if he'll stick around.
By Randolph Freelander Go To PostThere was one such person in the thread here on GAF. Very sad. Not sure if he'll stick around.I had to take down a name on like the first page of the first thread I visited.
