PC Hardware | 2017 | TFW Smokey Benches Less than Nintendo

laptop just broke

asus never again

Lenovo T-Series Thinkpads (or better) or MacBooks are the only reliable laptops, imo. If you have to get a different brand, make sure it is part of their business line.

AMD Ryzen ThreadRipper 16C/32T rumored to cost just $849 AMD's upcoming Ryzen ThreadRipper 16C/32T = $849, while Intel's Core i9 with 18C/36T costs $1999

Linus delivers some real talk on x299 and its launch


And here's Asus' ROG x299 boards


I naturally lean towards Asus as that's what my X79 board is, but I've also been impressed by some of MSI's stuff. I like how the M7 ACK looks

Haha, Linus went in on Intel.

Pilon -- I know you just got a mechanical keyboard, but you said one of the reasons you stuck with the Logitech for so long was because of the LCD screen. Looks like EVGA is working on a mechanical board that has a screen:

jesus christ that's EXACTLY what I want

thanks, now going to cry when I find out how much it is

edit: sounds like it wasn't shown at CES2017 or if it was nothing was said about release date's, sounds like vaporware :(

I think it's gonna come out EVGA is making a hard push to expand beyond GPUs

I might get x299 just to give me something to do.. sigh

Also move to NVMe because.. reasons?

By diehard Go To PostI might get x299 just to give me something to do.. sigh

Also move to NVMe because.. reasons?

Yeahhhh

Playing BF1 yesterday at ~140 fps had a moment of "do I really need to upgrade". Just now getting to the point where 4+ cores are going to be used in gaming. Already have a 1440p 144hz screen. I've just been there for 2+ years just waiting for everything else to catch up, so it naturally feels like I gotta upgrade. All things considered it's a pretty optimal setup.

E: I do want to get a new, smaller PSU tho. Running this 1300w monster from my Tri-SLI days, and there's no need. Sell the 1300w and move down to a newer, smaller PSU - EVGA G3 750w PSU.

Cross-posting from the tech thread, but noteworthy in here:



Basically, you'll be able to game on the new iMacs now. Up to 64GB RAM support and external GPU support so you can do VR.

They really .. really need to work on their OpenGL implementation though. It's kinda terrible. I didn't watch the whole conference but i hope the next OS has improvements there.

What I'm looking at, so far:

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($185.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($116.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Sandisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($83.35 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB GAMING X Video Card ($254.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design - Define C with Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($82.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.90 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver - 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($6.89 @ OutletPC)

Total: $950.76

Only thing that I'm unsure of is if I'll need to get a WiFi card. I already have another SSD and a regular HD for storage.

Also, finding that AMD card seems to be a real bitch. Seems like it's been out of stock on Newegg for a minute.

By diehard Go To PostThey really .. really need to work on their OpenGL implementation though. It's kinda terrible. I didn't watch the whole conference but i hope the next OS has improvements there.

Not sure about what their OpenGL implementation looks like, but they did announce Metal 2, so maybe there are some updates in there.

Ethereum mining is killing availability for AMD cards, good luck finding one at retail price.

I think you will be happy with that PC, Eldritch. If you are still a student, see if there is a way to get a discount on Windows (and other MS software). If you still have access to your old school email, try using that to apply for their student discounts.

HDR monitors were a mistake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgBzpYTn_8c

I'm thinking about buying that 4k monitor and sticking to 1 monitor instead of 2.

I've used 2 forever mostly due to how much I used to play WoW and how useful that second screen is but for other stuff? The second screen is more distracting than anything else. And when I play a lot of FPSes, windowed fullscreen is bad for aiming and input lag.

I may just look for a 144hz monitor instead though

By Zabojnik Go To PostHDR monitors were a mistake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgBzpYTn_8c

lol so HDR is just a shift in luminance value towards higher exposure.

By Kabro Go To Postlol so HDR is just a shift in luminance value towards higher exposure.

It is that only if thats what the game is developed for. You actually get some of these same muted effects running games make for 8 bit color on 10 bit panels. There shouldn't be anything inherent within HDR or the panel that would do that, i don't know enough about ME's HDR to guess as to why though.

It'll be a while before the tech matures and devs learn to utilize it to its full extent. Your sacrifice won't be in vain, Smokey & Cavalo. :bigbosssalute:

By data Go To PostI may just look for a 144hz monitor instead though

Go 240hz m8. This is the future.

By diehard Go To PostGet the M.2 version for sure, not only is it cheaper but you will save on some cabling and free up a drive bay for the exact same perfomance. Olnly possible downside is that its harder to hook up to a different computer should you need to for whatever reason. Maybe take a look at the MX300.. you essentially get a "free" 25GB for a drive i'd place on the exact same level as the Samsung.

I'm getting this message on my PartPicker build when I added the 960

The motherboard M.2 slot #0 shares bandwidth with a SATA 6.0 Gb/s port. When the M.2 slot is populated, one SATA 6Gb/s port is disabled.
The motherboard M.2 slot #1 shares bandwidth with SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. When the M.2 slot is populated, two SATA 6Gb/s ports are disabled.

So I lose a SATA slot regardless of M.2 or NVMe (MOBO has 6 so eh). Looking at the Crucial MX300 275 M.2, my own SSD is a Crucial so it looks like the winner in the clubhouse.

Sis's build Parts List - link means decided/bought
Case: trying to find a mid ATX case with lighting on the outside and a side window (she likes that) or an Alienware-like model. I initially wanted this but it didn't have a front ODD for DVDs.
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 Tower Cooler For AMD/Intel CPU's
Power Supply: Will look for towards the end of the build (Corsair brands come up alot on your list). May need a 650W one.
MOBO: MSI Z270 SLI Plus ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 with 8GB GDDR5
Memory: 16GB (Maybe Corsair Vengeance RMB?)
SSD: Crucial MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
HDD 1: 2 OR 3 TB (7200RPM) 3.5inch SATA Hard Drive (WD Black or Blue) Main HDD for programs
HDD 2: 1 TB 7200RPM) 3.5inch SATA Hard Drive (WD Black or Blue); need to pull old HDD from old computer to copy stuff to main HDD. This will be used for storing pictures and vids.
Optical/DVD Drive: 8x DVD+/-RW 9.5mm ODD Burner DVD drive. Needed to watch DVDs

Also is it me, or did 1070s get really fucking expensive? I know I saw a few in the 350-390 range a few months ago, even cheaper. With all the new cards coming out why isn't the price dropping?

By The Frankman Go To PostAlso is it me, or did 1070s get really fucking expensive? I know I saw a few in the 350-390 range a few months ago, even cheaper. With all the new cards coming out why isn't the price dropping?

Get a used 1080 one.

Prices of 1080's now make me feel bad for getting a 1070 in September

By pilonv1 Go To PostPrices of 1080's now make me feel bad for getting a 1070 in September

1070 peasant 🤔

was looking at

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M1DEEYP/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I1A71FWBJQKYIR&colid=16AQ7BZ3OHEDR
or
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XFGTGC4/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I2N0MJ272D3XX3&colid=16AQ7BZ3OHEDR

By EldritchTrapStar Go To PostOnly thing that I'm unsure of is if I'll need to get a WiFi card. I already have another SSD and a regular HD for storage.

Also, finding that AMD card seems to be a real bitch. Seems like it's been out of stock on Newegg for a minute.

Just buy a WiFi Dongle, better price.

By Adam Blade Go To Post1070 peasant 🤔

I'll trade you a 1080 for a conference finals series then

By data Go To Postwas looking at

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M1DEEYP/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I1A71FWBJQKYIR&colid=16AQ7BZ3OHEDR
or
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XFGTGC4/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I2N0MJ272D3XX3&colid=16AQ7BZ3OHEDR

Also consider this Zowie XL2411 in the same price range.

The Samsung would have better colors but the Zowie is purpose built for long gaming periods. I don't have any opinion on the LG.

By pilonv1 Go To PostI'll trade you a 1080 for a conference finals series then

Went with the Samsung as an early birthday present for myself.

After buying that, the s7 and the 4k tv I think I'm good buying new tech for a while

though i may hold off just a bit til I get a 1080. I rarely go over 60 FPS in most the games I play

By Zabojnik Go To PostIt'll be a while before the tech matures and devs learn to utilize it to its full extent. Your sacrifice won't be in vain, Smokey & Cavalo. :bigbosssalute:

I will do it. I will do it for my SLAENT PC bros.

Highest GPU Clock speed 1607 to lowest as you read down (1582). Haven't checked price yet but not trying to go too far over $400.

MSI GTX 1070 Gaming Z
EVGA GTX 1070 FTW ACX 3.0
Gigabyte Aorus GTX 1070
Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1 Gaming
MSI GTX 1070 Sea Hawk X EK
MSI GTX 1070 Quick Silver OC
MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X]MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X

My point of reference is the chart in this link sorted by GPU Clock. Again, a high base clock is what I'm looking to get for her since I wasn't planning on OC'ing the card. I'm researching 6-7 other 1070 card versions to see highest base clock vs. price point. Any recommendations?

EDIT: like the EVGA FTW ACX 3.0 alot so far, I always bought my cards from them in the past. Zotac AMP! 1070 card looks nice too.

I need to get around to overclocking my 7700k and 1080 gtx one of these days. The fact is I feel like I have zero reasons to right now. Everything runs at 60-100fps at max settings (or near as) at 1440p, with g-sync taking care of smoothing what little needs smoothing. Guess I'll go for a moderate OC.

Frankman, that is a 1.6% difference between fastest and slowest clocks. The difference in performance is negligible.

Like, that would be the difference between getting 100fps and 102fps. It's nothing anyone will notice.

By Kibner Go To PostFrankman, that is a 1.6% difference between fastest and slowest clocks. The difference in performance is negligible. Like, that would be the difference between getting 100fps and 102fps. It's nothing anyone will notice.

I'm picking a clock point and working down, then factoring reviews/price/length/noise/heat temperature into it. I know my sister won't notice, but this is the same person I repeatedly have to talk off 1080Tis and Ryzen cards when she basically plays BigFish Games. To paraphrase Rick Sanchez, it's like trying to use Disney bucks at a Caesar's Palace.

By pilonv1 Go To PostI'll trade you a 1080 for a conference finals series then

By The Frankman Go To Post

By Zabojnik Go To PostI need to get around to overclocking my 7700k and 1080 gtx one of these days. The fact is I feel like I have zero reasons to right now. Everything runs at 60-100fps at max settings (or near as) at 1440p, with g-sync taking care of smoothing what little needs smoothing. Guess I'll go for a moderate OC.

Leaving 10-15+ fps on the table

Literally takes 5-10 mins to OC

30 mins for a thorough job

Buying an unlocked processor and not overclocking is wasting money.

I'm glad I learned how to do it with my i5-750, was much more challenging than my 3570k and the new boards are probably childs play. I could probably push my 3570k more than 4.2, but I'm already higher than I'd like on voltages although my temps are cool (Noctua D14). Just didn't win the chip lottery

The long case search for my sis is finally over...

NZXT Phantom 410 Mid Tower Case - Red



Now I need to find a good price for a WD Black 2 TB hard drive. They don't have any left on Amazon outside of 3rd party sellers.

Glad you could finally find a case!

32:9
49"
144hz

which one of you getting this

By RobNBanks Go To Post
32:9
49"
144hz

which one of you getting this

Does it support HDR and GSync? What's the input lag like?

https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/09/samsungs-new-top-end-curved-gaming-monitors-are-sporting-hdr-qled-and-amd-freesync-2/?ncid=rss

$1,500, HDR, and FreeSync

Well damn

Freesync stay betting a better variety of monitors

hulup tho

The only spec that Samsung’s three monitors don’t share are screen resolution: the 49-inch has a 3840×1080 panel, while its smaller 31.5 and 27-inch brethren have 2560×1440 panels. Personally, I have no need of a 49-inch curved display, much less the space to put it, but Samsung is convinced that the user who needs that ultrawide screen real estate definitely exists.

$699 for the 32" is fucking great

Is there a reason that nvidia cards don't support Freesync or are they just being dicks?