PC Hardware | 2017 | TFW Smokey Benches Less than Nintendo

Somebody straight up stole my Ti from Newegg warehouse or fedex

lolwat

I've blasted Newegg on Twitter last Saturday about this and of course they immediately reach out via DM. OK. They say give it until Monday. Ain't shit changed and I told them again nothing's changed and this needs to get escalated. In between I called FedEx and they said they never received the package from NE warehouse. I tell NE this and they say they can open a lost package claim and the following

Whenever a package is shipped we receive a scan confirmation before the package is even lifted onto the truck. Our warehouse has that scan, which is why we would need to move forward with a FedEx lost package claim. - Mak

I'm in full fuk mode at this point and call Newegg , and tell the rep I need to speak to her supervisor. Explain to him the situation and told him I want a refund. He's opening a investigation and asked that I give him until Wed. Mind you there's 5 other people I'm the same boat as me. Ordered the same EVGA card. Same shopping etc.

Somebody lifted these 1080tis

If this don't get resolved on Wed I'm blasting NE on Twitter, Facebook, GAF.

BOTH cards?

hopefully you end up getting them with a healthy gift card for your trouble...being late by a week deserves at least a 50 spot imo

Nah I only ordered one but theres a group of us at OCN (about 5 others) who are in the exact same spot. That's what I meant.

fuckin ay.
sorry to hear that smokey.
I swear it wasn't me.

Me and my 1060 have gotten closer over these last few weeks!

By Kibner Go To PostThink my eye stops recognizing somewhere around 75 or 80. But I haven't had the opportunity to try a 144hz monitor, yet.

do you remember 200fps jetpacks in Natural Selection? Made you as fast as a celerity fade and nerfed the vertical acceleration so you could chase ALL THE THINGS.

By Facism Go To Postdo you remember 200fps jetpacks in Natural Selection? Made you as fast as a celerity fade and nerfed the vertical acceleration so you could chase ALL THE THINGS.

AAhahahhaha, yup!

I also remember bunny hopping backwards and killing all the skulks that couldn't also bunny hop and thus never catch up.

The fps thing also made it so your energy regenerated that much faster.

Whew

https://videocardz.com/67291/first-look-at-asus-gtx-1080-ti-strix

Think I'm closing in on my new build.

Case: Corsair Carbide Series 400C
Mobo: Asus ROG Strix Z270F
CPU: i7 7700K
CPU cooler: Corsair Hydro H100i V2 cooler with dual SP120L fans
GPU: EVGA 1080ti
RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) Corsair Vengeance LED 3000MHz
PSU: 650W Corsair RMx, Modular, Silent, 80PLUS Gold
Primary Storage: 256GB Intel 600p, PCIe Gen3 x4, NVMe
Game Storage: 2TB Samsung 850 EVO
Other Storage: 3TB Seagate Barracuda, 7200rpm, 64MB Cache
Extra coolers: 2 x Corsair ML140 PRO

Happy for anyone to chip in with cheaper/better alternatives. It's an expensive fucker as it stands.

By Laboured Go To PostWhew

https://videocardz.com/67291/first-look-at-asus-gtx-1080-ti-strix

Mid-March would be great.

By Laboured Go To PostHappy for anyone to chip in with cheaper/better alternatives. It's an expensive fucker as it stands.

I would definitely go for the Crucial MX 300 for game storage, unless you found the 850 EVO for some awesome price.

By diehard Go To PostI would definitely go for the Crucial MX 300 for game storage, unless you found the 850 EVO for some awesome price.

I'll have a look thanks.

Also why 32GB?

With RAM prices rising, you could save some there.

By Smokey Go To PostAlso why 32GB?

With RAM prices rising, you could save some there.

Not a bad idea. Was thinking of going big no matter what but you're probably right that I don't need that amount right now anyways.

I mean, I have a couple instances of Visual Studio going, a SQL server running in the background, an ARK server, browser with like 10 tabs, VLC, Steam, B.Net, Origin, Discord, and a few other things all going at once when I'm playing a game and still don't run into memory issues at 16 GB.

32 GB is a little overkill but if 16 GB isn't enough for you, it's quick and easy to purchase more when you need it. Just leave a couple memory slots free for that expansion.

SQL server waaaat

By Kibner Go To PostI mean, I have a couple instances of Visual Studio going, a SQL server running in the background, an ARK server, browser with like 10 tabs, VLC, Steam, B.Net, Origin, Discord, and a few other things all going at once when I'm playing a game and still don't run into memory issues at 16 GB.

32 GB is a little overkill but if 16 GB isn't enough for you, it's quick and easy to purchase more when you need it. Just leave a couple memory slots free for that expansion.

Fair enough, think I got a little over-excited :p

By diehard Go To PostSQL server waaaat

It's for my personal staging use before rolling it out to the shared dev server before it is then moved out to a client server.

Kibner deep in it, damn

By Laboured Go To PostThink I'm closing in on my new build.

Case: Corsair Carbide Series 400C
Mobo: Asus ROG Strix Z270F
CPU: i7 7700K
CPU cooler: Corsair Hydro H100i V2 cooler with dual SP120L fans
GPU: EVGA 1080ti
RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) Corsair Vengeance LED 3000MHz
PSU: 650W Corsair RMx, Modular, Silent, 80PLUS Gold
Primary Storage: 256GB Intel 600p, PCIe Gen3 x4, NVMe
Game Storage: 2TB Samsung 850 EVO
Other Storage: 3TB Seagate Barracuda, 7200rpm, 64MB Cache
Extra coolers: 2 x Corsair ML140 PRO

Happy for anyone to chip in with cheaper/better alternatives. It's an expensive fucker as it stands.

I'm liking that Corsair case. Clean, minimalistic. Any particular reason why you chose it over something similar like the Define R5? Price, I reckon?

I'm a silence freak, so I'm partial to air CPU coolers, but the H100i V2 seems like a good AiO. Thumbs up for the power supply as well with that Zero RPM fan mode.

Agree with everyone else regarding RAM. 16 gigs is all you need. 3000MHz is probably high enough, since you'll be overclocking your CPU.

I'm not a fan of having the 600p as your system drive. I'd shell out 30 brexits more and get the 950 EVO. I don't know if you'd be able to perceive the difference in RL, probably not, but I've read some very ... not flattering things about 600p's performance in specific workloads, where it actually performs significantly worse than a SATA SSD. Low latency and responsivness is really all you want from your system drive, and the 600p, being an nVME drive, is sensational at that, but still. Allyn Malventano of PC Perspective is not a huge fan and that's enough for me. :P

Cheers Zabo. It's not set in stone yet so I appreciate all the feedback.

By Smokey Go To PostKibner deep in it, damn

Breaking things for my co-worker and/or clients is frowned upon. I try to remember to test all changes on my local machine first. Make a backup of the dev server, run my script of changes, test, then repeat with prod server if all went well. Roll back and try again if it didn't. Has helped prevent more than one disaster!

The 600p is fine unless you fill it's SLC cache. It's steady state performance is pretty bad. So if you are doing normal desktop usage it could still be faster than most SATA drives.

Is the Samsung 960 EVO any better or is that generally an issue with these NVMe drives?

that rig will be a beast. what else other than gaming do you plan to use the device for? I'm pretty limited on 16gb ram right now

By Laboured Go To PostIs the Samsung 960 EVO any better or is that generally an issue with these NVMe drives?

The 960 EVO is a beast, it's in completely different category than the 600p.

By ReRixo Go To Postthat rig will be a beast. what else other than gaming do you plan to use the device for? I'm pretty limited on 16gb ram right now

If he's doing lots of video editing or running multiple VMs or running several large databases or something, I guess it could be considered limited with 16 GB of ram.

What are you doing that makes you feel like you are limited on 16 GB?

By diehard Go To PostThe 960 EVO is a beast, it's in completely different category than the 600p.

Heh, sweet. I've found it for not much more than the 600p. Yoink.

The 600p finds itself in the awkward position between SATA and high-performance NVMe. I thought I'd get the 1TB version, but seeing how there's basically 0 difference between SATA and PCIe drives when it comes to loading times in games, I think I'll pass and get a SATA 1TB drive instead.

By Kibner Go To PostIf he's doing lots of video editing or running multiple VMs or running several large databases or something, I guess it could be considered limited with 16 GB of ram.

What are you doing that makes you feel like you are limited on 16 GB?

I run osx via vmware for prototyping/design software I can't get on windows. so if I have that running on top of photoshop/after effects and whatever else, my rig really struggles.

yeah these hosts with 512GB holdin me back too

if I ever work on a system with 16GB of memory again, i'll literally throw that thing out the window.
32GB is like bare minimum for me. 64GB would be ideal.

By Kabro Go To Postif I ever work on a system with 16GB of memory again, i'll literally throw that thing out the window.
32GB is like bare minimum for me. 64GB would be ideal.

Well, yeah, but you do legit video editing and modeling work, iirc. Similar situation with ReRixo and his VM + image editing. Ya'll are some serious power users.

But for gaming and light use of one of those other things as a hobby? 16 GB is easily enough.

yeah, 16GB is more than enough for gaming. no reason to upgrade.
So anyways, I think i've had a change of heart about the Ryzen, fam.
1800x cinebench at around 1600. Passmark at 15435.
these scores are great against the 5960x and 6900k,
but I totally forgot about Dual Xeon benches!
I'm looking at a 2x E5-2687w which passmark score at 21258. and Cinebench at 2263.
With these scores, maybe I'm leaning towards getting a refurb Dell T7610 workstation instead.
I'll be upgrading in the early Summer so I have some time to think about it.
but i'm totally a doofus for forgetting about dual xeons. lol.

those were like $1800 processors like 5 years ago though..

You might be putting too much stock into Cinebench score.

Maybe look into a Dell R810 or HP DL 580 G7. Smoke that precision for less money!

cinebench is in line with Maya/Arnold render though.
I was reading on CGTalk that cinema 4d renders times are on par with Maya/Arnold render times.
So if Cinebench is scoring higher with said CPU, then that's a viable indication.
My biggest concern is render time.
a single high quality render frame right now is about 15-20mins.
I'd like to cut that down drastically.
The other option for me GPU rendering, but I have fork over an additional $500/annually for a GPU based Renderer.

By diehard Go To PostMaybe look into a Dell R810 or HP DL 580 G7. Smoke that precision for less money!

hmmm... ok i'll look into these. Thanks!
edit: oh wow, these are rack mounted. and E7 family?!
I dont think I'm ready for that.

This is for Maya right?

Is the $500 one Redshift3D? Have you tried any other renderers?

yes Maya. I dont think VFX studios use Mental ray anymore.
there's a slow march towards Arnold.
plus Arnold became the default renderer for Maya 2017.

Also, what do you think of Naples Diehard?
is there hype among IT professionals?

By diehard Go To PostIs the $500 one Redshift3D? Have you tried any other renderers?

yeah Redshift is the one im talking about. its pretty fucking fast and compares really well to Arnold.
I've been testing on the Trial version and it literally renders at 1/10 the render time against Arnold.
i haven't tried other renderers like Octane though.

I thought my Titan X was helping you out fam

Naples looks pretty cool except one thing..

A few years ago most software companies switched from per-socket based licenses to per-core. So if you want to run almost any enterprise software that isn't Open Source , all these cores are useless unless you are starved for rack space.

SQL Server Enterprise comes out to about $7,000 per core. Normal Windows Server licensing only goes to 8 cores, then they charge for every 2 cores after that. ANSYS charges an "HPC Pack" for ever 4 cores or 1 GPU (i think it's like $20k per pack). VMWare charges per 2 cores. Wanna back it all up? Veeam licenses go by cores.

All that would be excitement about high core counts and awesome value goes right out the window and then some when you have to actually run stuff on it.

For the guys running KVM , straight bare metal *nix, or OpenFOAM and the like i bet it's awesome! I think Smokey does some HPC stuff maybe he has some more input from that side.

By Kabro Go To Postyeah Redshift is the one im talking about. its pretty fucking fast and compares really well to Arnold.
I've been testing on the Trial version and it literally renders at 1/10 the render time against Arnold.
i haven't tried other renderers like Octane though.

Dude at $500 a year that sounds like the way to go..

Naples hasn't even been talked about for our HPC environment. Just ordered a few more nodes that are Broadwell actually. There's some older AMD stuff in use, but all the recent stuff has been Intel/Nvidia.

By Smokey Go To PostNaples hasn't even been talked about for our HPC environment. Just ordered a few more nodes that are Broadwell actually. There's some older AMD stuff in use, but all the recent stuff has been Intel/Nvidia.

well yeah but AMD has been complete trash in the high end x86 market for years now.

128 PCIe Lanes in a dual socket server is pretty damn awesome.
8 Memory channels on FEA programs would be a game changer.

By diehard Go To Postwell yeah but AMD has been complete trash in the high end x86 market for years now.

128 PCIe Lanes in a dual socket server is pretty damn awesome.
8 Memory channels on FEA programs would be a game changer.

Yeah it's a well duh thing about amd, but I haven't heard any rumblings of Naples or maybe I just don't know. I'm gonna bring it up in our next meeting tho, now I'm curious.

Lads, I'm in the market for good 7.1 headphones that don't exhibit cringe-as-fuck gamer aesthetic. Any thoughts?

Like the looks of the SteelSeries Siberia 840s but it's silly expensive.

By Laboured Go To PostLads, I'm in the market for good 7.1 headphones that don't exhibit cringe-as-fuck gamer aesthetic. Any thoughts?

Like the looks of the SteelSeries Siberia 840s but it's silly expensive.

I'm quite happy with my Logitech G933.

Just get normal actually good headphones/headset, and don't fall for the surround sound headset marketing gimmick.

Generally though I must say, Steelseries are cool guys and make good products.