Oh yeah, whoever was asking about concussion recovery times, they vary widely and with little rhyme or reason. The recovery timeframe ranges from like a week to forced medical retirement. The more someone has had, the longer each recovery period is with a higher chance of retirement.
By vic Go To PostTake pics of the food breh.Yup, that's the point as inspired by the Barne's All Star burger.
By pilonv1 Go To PostI'm not advocating it, since I don't think you can improve from trading a star for spare parts either. Just pointing out the reasoning sounded familiar.
Most defenses of trading away a star will sound somewhat similar.
By DY_nasty Go To PostIf you get a good haul and don't do shit with it, don't blame the haul.
Eh. It's more a testament that getting stars is way harder than people like to think. Trading them away is 99% the wrong answer.
I mean, the Wolves haven't even had the same success post Love trade.
By Kibner Go To PostOh yeah, whoever was asking about concussion recovery times, they vary widely and with little rhyme or reason. The recovery timeframe ranges from like a week to forced medical retirement. The more someone has had, the longer each recovery period is with a higher chance of retirement.
I've always been more of a fan of a more medical basis to it. You can take brain scans pre-season and then compare after a concussion. The concussed brain is always swollen.
Though there is no universal time. Most foot ball leagues here are putting a 2 week minimum on it. But really, if you're getting recurring concussions ... your time as a professional sports player are done.
By giririsss Go To PostMost defenses of trading away a star will sound somewhat similar.Getting nothing is always worse (unrelated to the Portland stuff)
Eh. It's more a testament that getting stars is way harder than people like to think. Trading them away is 99% the wrong answer.
I mean, the Wolves haven't even had the same success post Love trade.
I shit on Boston plenty, but Atlanta overvaluing Horford left them with not only nothing - but less than nothing now that Millsap wants to leave too because of the lack of success/talent. Horford still ended up in Boston anyways and Atlanta is going to be eliminated in February with Dwight Howard's recruiting in Free Agency the only thing to look forward to.
Letting guys walk for nothing is only good if you're gonna get trash in return no matter what. The issue that teams are running into is that they're doing nothing with assets - and its not that those assets are trash either. Some teams make the most out of them, many don't.
By DY_nasty Go To PostGetting nothing is always worse (unrelated to the Portland stuff)
I shit on Boston plenty, but Atlanta overvaluing Horford left them with not only nothing - but less than nothing now that Millsap wants to leave too because of the lack of success/talent. Horford still ended up in Boston anyways and Atlanta is going to be eliminated in February with Dwight Howard's recruiting in Free Agency the only thing to look forward to.
Letting guys walk for nothing is only good if you're gonna get trash in return no matter what. The issue that teams are running into is that they're doing nothing with assets - and its not that those assets are trash either. Some teams make the most out of them, many don't.
You make it sound like i'ts easy to turn "assets" into "wins". It's really not. Getting guys who are good enough to get you wins is genuinely hard.
ATL stuffed up FA. No debate. And getting nothing in return is usually bad. But throwing in the towel is even worse. Particularly as a perception around the league.
And reputation matters. It's no secret that players are skeptical about Houston as a FA destination, as e.g.
By giririsss Go To PostYou make it sound like i'ts easy to turn "assets" into "wins". It's really not. Getting guys who are good enough to get you wins is genuinely hard.NY wishes they had half the assets that teams like Orlando and Minnesota have wasted.
ATL stuffed up FA. No debate. And getting nothing in return is usually bad. But throwing in the towel is even worse. Particularly as a perception around the league.
And reputation matters. It's no secret that players are skeptical about Houston as a FA destination, as e.g.
The Suns threw in the towel on Dragic and are generally better for it. Nash is still haunting the Lakers rebuild years after the fact.
There is clear value. If you're not going anywhere long-term, cash out. Better than looking stupid trying to be scariest 9th seed the league has ever seen.
By DY_nasty Go To PostI shit on Boston plenty, but Atlanta overvaluing Horford left them with not only nothing - but less than nothing now that Millsap wants to leave too because of the lack of success/talent. Horford still ended up in Boston anyways and Atlanta is going to be eliminated in February with Dwight Howard's recruiting in Free Agency the only thing to look forward to.
Flashy Sprite™ Slam Dunk Contest champion and deadeye 3-point shooter Terrence Ross will lead them to the promised land.
By giririsss Go To PostIndiana are owned by the local government, No?
So i think they worry about putting out a product that will also keep voters happy and the general populace. Being a 5 - 8 seed puts bums in seats and that makes the arena / team profitable (particularly for a public official who can also count the flow on affect to local businesses.)
Incidentally, I couldn't remember anything about this so I looked it up and I can't find a single thing related to it, they seem to be owned by your run of the mill boring greedy rich guy.
Hrmm... should I take a picture of the various menus and let slaent help me decide what I get next time? I probably need to do it anyway to create a checklist for myself.
By DY_nasty Go To PostNY wishes they had half the assets that teams like Orlando and Minnesota have wasted.The suns would have been better off getting rid of Bledsoe, not Dragic.
The Suns threw in the towel on Dragic and are generally better for it. Nash is still haunting the Lakers rebuild years after the fact.
There is clear value. If you're not going anywhere long-term, cash out. Better than looking stupid trying to be scariest 9th seed the league has ever seen.
I'm not saying that you should cling on to a star for the sake of it. But that's really only valid at the tail end of their career. Not their prime years. It's much harder to find another Lillard than it is to build around the current one.
WAT
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2685425-bucher-buzz-league-sources-say-bulls-have-begun-shopping-jimmy-butler
Am I missing something, or is this insane?
Report: Jimmy Butler Back On Trade Market 'For Right Price'
"League sources say the team made it known weeks ago through back channels that Jimmy Butler is available for the right price," said Ric Bucher.
"The Bulls, league sources say, have been uncertain about building around Butler even after signing him to a five-year, $95 million deal. One league executive said GM Gar Forman held off aggressively pursuing a move sooner this season because of the team's surprising start. Now that the Bulls have leveled off, Butler is apparently back on the market, along with (Rajon) Rondo of course."
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2685425-bucher-buzz-league-sources-say-bulls-have-begun-shopping-jimmy-butler
Am I missing something, or is this insane?
It's weird how the past few pages have been about the absurdity of trading a star in their prime, and then the Bulls front office do this. Who are they gonna build around?
By HasphatsAnts Go To PostWhat do the Cavs have that we'd even want? wtfMike Dunleavy, of course.
By chandlerparsons Go To PostIt's weird how the past few pages have been about the absurdity of trading a star in their prime, and then the Bulls front office do this. Who are they gonna build around?spoiler: he wont get traded
By livefromkyoto Go To PostWATBoston needs to stop bullshitting and give them the Nets pick, Bradley, and Jaylen
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2685425-bucher-buzz-league-sources-say-bulls-have-begun-shopping-jimmy-butler
Am I missing something, or is this insane?
By chandlerparsons Go To PostIt's weird how the past few pages have been about the absurdity of trading a star in their prime, and then the Bulls front office do this. Who are they gonna build around?No one. They would tank for two years, get picks, then everyone is out, except Lopez who'd still have a year. Right move IMO. Signing Wade and Rondo, trading for Lopez were mistakes and they already acknowledge it.
By DY_nasty Go To PostBoston needs to stop bullshitting and give them the Nets pick, Bradley, and JaylenIm thinking Boston thinks about waiting and signing Hayward and then.. i don't know doing something with those other assets.
Butler is better and will have a better contract though
By DY_nasty Go To PostBoston needs to stop bullshitting and give them the Nets pick, Bradley, and Jaylen
I think other teams at the top of the East need to stop loading up, kthx
I don't even understand what the Cavs are trading for these players.
By HasphatsAnts Go To PostWhat do the Cavs have that we'd even want? wtfThe Varejao exception
By livefromkyoto Go To PostI think other teams at the top of the East need to stop loading up, kthx
I don't even understand what the Cavs are trading for these players.
do they own a first? then probably that
Well, I got pictures of like 1/6th of the vendors before finding the alligator poboy that I didn't know I was craving.
By diehard Go To PostIm thinking Boston thinks about waiting and signing Hayward and then.. i don't know doing something with those other assets.I don't know why Hayward would go to Boston.
Butler is better and will have a better contract though
By giririsss Go To PostI don't know why Hayward would go to Boston.cause they cheer him duh
Also cause they would be damn good with him and he has the Brad Stevens connection
By diehard Go To Postcause they cheer him duh
Also cause they would be damn good with him and he has the Brad Stevens connection
I mean. Would they be damn good?
Korver has punked himself too many times in the playoffs that I don't even see the need in Cleveland trading for him. Non-factor when it counts.
By giririsss Go To PostI mean. Would they be damn good?Hayward is an immediate upgrade over Crowder and Jaylen, so yes. Not to mention Hayward could also just play SG, which is Boston's biggest weakness.
By reilo Go To PostHayward is an immediate upgrade over Crowder and Jaylen, so yes. Not to mention Hayward could also just play SG, which is Boston's biggest weakness.Wing, not SG necessarily. Avery Bradley's been their best player for years low key.
By p s y Go To PostKorver has punked himself too many times in the playoffs that I don't even see the need in Cleveland trading for him. Non-factor when it counts.LBJ is gonna have him ridiculously open... Korver's biggest issues were just getting free in the playoffs imo. Gonna be a breeze between LBJ and Kyrie.
By p s y Go To PostKorver has punked himself too many times in the playoffs that I don't even see the need in Cleveland trading for him. Non-factor when it counts.
i think Kyle Korver can play act as Mike Miller long enough to chip.
By DY_nasty Go To PostWing, not SG necessarily. Avery Bradley's been their best player for years low key.Oh, for sure, I'll buy that. Boston's backcourt (IT is 5'9 and Avery 6'2) make Portland's look Monstar sized.
Korver for a heavily protected 1st + the earthly vestiges of Mo Williams.
Time for the that ATL firesale.
Time for the that ATL firesale.
By HasphatsAnts Go To PostMillsap to Boston. Do it Ainge.But why? We already know it won't work.
By reilo Go To PostBut why? We already know it won't work.
It helps the Hawks, that's why.
Don't give a shit about what Boston might say.
