NBA Jan 2017 I You Either Die a Sager Or Live Long Enough to become a Karl

By Dark PhaZe Go To Postyou mean the same offseason that randle will get max?

Randle is better than Wiggins tbh

Who knew year 3 of Parker-Wiggins was going to be a no contest in the other direction?

By Dark PhaZe Go To Postyou mean the same offseason that randle will get max?

Is there were GIRI tells me Randle is a bust again at the 7th pick and I laugh my ass off?

By Dark PhaZe Go To Postyou mean the same offseason that randle will get max?

not a chance. and if he did he's much better than Wiggins anyway.

Oh, Zach is much more deserving of a max deal. But they'll give one to Wiggins, save the other for Towns and piss off LaVine in the process.

yall are nuts if you think randle won't demand and get the max barring decline

everyone gets paid these days

everyone

lmao randle is definitely getting the max

so is otto porter

Slaent told me Randle was a bust and a wasted pick at #7.

By Fenderputty Go To PostIs there were GIRI tells me Randle is a bust again at the 7th pick and I laugh my ass off?

You hang onto that cornerstone pick breh.

Hollis Thompson got cut. The last link to the origins of the process is gone (I think)

By DY_nasty Go To PostRandle is better than Wiggins tbh

Really now.

Feel good story tho, Isiah Austin the guy who got drafted by Adam Silver and couldn't play because of his disease got cleared 2 years later. He's thinking of going overseas to play but do you think he would be able to get back into the NBA at 23?

Ay pilon Cleanthony Early is at the Santa Cruz Warriors now. Maybe we can get rid of McAdoo and bring in him instead.

I'd say Randle is better than Wiggins as well. I was pretty high on Wiggins and low and Randle before the beginning of the year but Randle has actually improved and as Rodeo said Wiggins just looks... mediocre. I'm not saying Randle is great, but relative to that draft class at the 7 pick? Not bad. Especially considering the 6 and 8 picks were Marcus Smart (LOL) and Nik Stauskas (LMAO). I'd say we did fine.

Looking back on that draft, holy shit it was garbage. The 10-30 picks are better than most of the top 9, hahaha.

By shun Go To PostAy pilon Cleanthony Early is at the Santa Cruz Warriors now. Maybe we can get rid of McAdoo and bring in him instead.

No. Need big men not more wing players.

By giririsss Go To PostFor what?

The knicks have nothing the Suns would want.

O'Quinn, Kuzminskas, or Hernangomez are the names being thrown around.. I wouldn't give up Hernangomez and even O'Quinn would be a bit of an overpay for half a year of Tucker.

I think giri is smarter than to listen to trade proposals for made up players.

Both Kuz and Hernangomez had good games when the Knicks beat the Blazers back in November so you should know who they are. Imma need you to put some respek on it.

Quinn Hernakuzinskas ain't real, come on.

By pilonv1 Go To PostHollis Thompson got cut. The last link to the origins of the process is gone (I think)

Noel is the last remaining.

;_;

By masud Go To PostO'Quinn, Kuzminskas, or Hernangomez are the names being thrown around.. I wouldn't give up Hernangomez and even O'Quinn would be a bit of an overpay for half a year of Tucker.

I don't see why the Suns would want any of those players. They have plenty of young PF Talent them selves.

I mean, PJ isn't some great amazing player. But he's a very solid role player. Who still adds value on the court. But he is taking minutes away from putting Bender on the court more.

I guess the Suns could do it to get another 2nd rounder and free up time for Chriss/Bender/Warren.

By reilo Go To PostI think giri is smarter than to listen to trade proposals for made up players.

I checked, all those people exist. They're basically just end of bench player XX tho.

By giririsss Go To PostYou hang onto that cornerstone pick breh.

How high is the fire your trying to light with this strawman shit here. lol

Being happy with our 7th pick is a far cry from saying he's our cornerstone. You keep telling yourself he's a bust if it makes you feel better tho broski.

By giririsss Go To PostI don't see why the Suns would want any of those players. They have plenty of young PF Talent them selves.

I mean, PJ isn't some great amazing player. But he's a very solid role player. Who still adds value on the court. But he is taking minutes away from putting Bender on the court more.

I guess the Suns could do it to get another 2nd rounder and free up time for Chriss/Bender/Warren.

I checked, all those people exist. They're basically just end of bench player XX tho.

Hernangomez is a 5 Kuzminskas is a 3. And they both managed to play themselves onto the rotation of a (at the time) winning team 30 or so games into their NBA careers. I don't see how that indicates that they are going to be end of the bench players. Hernangomez has starter potential.

Don't see why the Suns would want another big. Kuz is interesting but he's 27 so there's probably not a lot of development left.

By masud Go To PostHernangomez is a 5 Kuzminskas is a 3. And they both managed to play themselves onto the rotation of a (at the time) winning team 30 or so games into their NBA careers. I don't see how that indicates that they are going to be end of the bench players. Hernangomez has starter potential.

Rookies:
Mindaugas Kuzminskas, Age: 27, position: SF
11mpg, .412 FG%, .404 3p% 1.3 rbg, 4.5ppg.

Willy Hernangomez, Age: 22, position C
14mpg, .563FG%, .333 3p%, 4.7rbg, 1.2TO, 5.5ppg

5th year:
Kyle O'Quinn, Age: 26, position PF/C
15mpg, .551fg%, .0 3p%, 5.6rbg, 6.1ppg (all are career high numbers).

I mean, Hernan an O'Quinn are redundant. Basically get the same or more from Len. Who is only 23. We don't need another Len. Hernan could be something, but ... Suns have enough projects. O'Quinn will be a career backup around the league. Good journeyman for sure. But that is all he will be.

And honestly, I'd rather see Bender playing C than either of them.

And we're stocked on wings. The 3pt % is nice on a team that will be short of shooting if Tucker goes, but it's on a small sample set.

Again, They're ok players. Nothing particularly against them. Suns just don't really need any of them. Not even saying the trade couldn't happen. Just that I don't think THOSE guys are the reason the trade is done.

This is the worst timeline.

Melo for PJ and a first.

Yeah PJ ain't coming to NY unless Suns needed him gone to clear roster space. And I don't see that happening unless Suns go full tank.

By Doomsayer Go To PostMelo for PJ and a first.

By reilo Go To PostThis is the worst timeline.

Still not as untouchable as rudy.

I mean the Knicks have an extra second rounder this year too. I don't know how much you should expect for the expiring contract of a 31 year old role player.

By The Frankman Go To PostYeah PJ ain't coming to NY unless Suns needed him gone to clear roster space. And I don't see that happening unless Suns go full tank.

If they had a trade lined up for any of Chandler / Knight / Bledsoe and needed the room ... sure.

By masud Go To PostI mean the Knicks have an extra second rounder this year too. I don't know how much you should expect for the expiring contract of a 31 year old role player.

Not a hell of a lot.

Kuz and a 2nd rounder would be about it.

A ball hog PG who freezes out star players in close games, also coming off a serious injury? Sounds very Knicks.

By knux-future Go To PostNoel is the last remaining.

;_;

Donald Colangelo

Repeal everything

By pilonv1 Go To Post

https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/816793750152187904

A ball hog PG who freezes out star players in close games, also coming off a serious injury? Sounds very Knicks.

Empty gym tryout reminds me of Von Wafers proof of life montage

Like PJ Tucker solves anything. Please. We ain't the Spurs looking for some Bruce Bowen type because we already got 3 hall of famers.

By Gabyskra Go To PostLike PJ Tucker solves anything. Please. We ain't the Spurs looking for some Bruce Bowen type because we already got 3 hall of famers.

Melo, Noah and Rose will most likely make the HoF though.

By reilo Go To PostMelo, Noah and Rose will most likely make the HoF though.

Noah? Are you feeling okay? For Florida?

By reilo Go To PostMelo, Noah and Rose will most likely make the HoF though.

Noah?

By Gabyskra Go To PostNoah? Are you feeling okay? For Florida?

Defensive player of the year, All-NBA and multi-time All-Star makes it to the HoF. Easily.

Even Rose is doubtful. MVPs are not automatic.

By reilo Go To PostMulti-time defensive player of the year makes it to the HoF. Easily.

Just once. He's out.

By Gabyskra Go To PostEven Rose is doubtful. MVPs are not automatic.

Rookie of the Year, 3x All-Star, 1x All-NBA First Team, then MVP

By Gabyskra Go To PostJust once. He's out.

Check my edit

PJ Tucker is 31, he's still a few years away from being on the Knicks radar

Ben Wallace was way, way better than Noah and probably doesn't get in. Noah has no chance.

By reilo Go To PostRookie of the Year, 3x All-Star, 1x All-NBA First Team, then MVP
Check my edit

Noah: sorry, it's borderline. Ben Wallace could make it, but Noah won't. If you go by numbers, there's a model saying he has less than a 10% chance.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob.html
Around the same for Rose.

By Gabyskra Go To PostLike PJ Tucker solves anything. Please. We ain't the Spurs looking for some Bruce Bowen type because we already got 3 hall of famers.

So only championship contenders need defensive role players?

By pilonv1 Go To PostPJ Tucker is 31, he's still a few years away from being on the Knicks radar

What?? I thought he was 25-28. Must have made it into the league rather late.

Guys, you don't realize how low the bar is to make it to the Hall as an NBA player. Dennis Rodman made it.

Reilo, you know, it's too crowded now. It's not the 1960s anymore, when a 6 year 17ppg career was enough. There are so many options now...