NBA Jan 2017 I You Either Die a Sager Or Live Long Enough to become a Karl

damn im killing it on titles over the last couple years

Charlotte with a top 5 offensive AND defensive lineup???

When is zaza getting benched and Javale getting full time starter minutes?

I don't know if anyone keeps track of blown leads, but the Lakers have to lead the league or be close to it.

By DY_nasty Go To PostCharlotte with a top 5 offensive AND defensive lineup???

I am more shocked that the Pacers have a top 15 O lineup

By DY_nasty Go To PostCharlotte with a top 5 offensive AND defensive lineup???

There's literally only 14 lineups with that criteria. Still pretty good though.

By p s y Go To Postdamn im killing it on titles over the last couple years

I remember you had one I really liked a min ago

Catching up on games... Dunn looked aiight against Portland

Wiz falling below .500 tonight but that's ok

If Jennings could drop over 30 points on us, I expect Wall to get whatever he wants against our defense.

Come back soon Capela and Beverley. :'(

Defenses suck this year.

For my man, Phaze:

I can never see the name McCollum without thinking "McGollum." Science must have a name for this syndrome.

GO ROCKETS!!!

Nice title.

With Hornacek recently saying that he's considering limiting the minutes of the veterans in order to get maximum effort Knick fandom has been discussing the possibility of bringing Melo off the bench. I'm with it in theory, we wouldn't have to try and hide multiple terrible defenders in the starting lineup anymore, we could play Melo more at the 4 (where he should be playing almost all of his minutes at this point), we could insert him against specific players to maximize what he has left, and it would prolong his career. Added bonus is that he might get pissed and waive his ntc (not happening lol). But the problem with benching Melo is that we don't have another starting 3 on the roster. Lance Thomas is a scrub on offense and Kuz (or Holiday) would be at a physical disadvantage most nights. I feel like we'd have to make a trade for this to work. One of our surplus bigs for a long defensive minded swing man, preferably one with a 3 point shot.

Carmelo Anthony is not coming off the bench man, don't be silly. That would be the worst kind of drama you could invite..

By livefromkyoto Go To PostCarmelo Anthony is not coming off the bench man, don't be silly. That would be the worst kind of drama you could invite..

By livefromkyoto Go To PostCarmelo Anthony is not coming off the bench man, don't be silly. That would be the worst kind of drama you could invite..

Drama leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering, suffering leads to lottery picks

By masud Go To PostDrama leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering, suffering leads to lottery picks

I can't imagine.

By masud Go To PostDrama leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering, suffering leads to lottery picks

Except when you're New York teams

By Kabro Go To PostExcept when you're New York teams

Oh it's a new day son. Ya'll stole our pick in 2015 and still ended up with the worse player. The Lakers are the new Knicks you just haven't accepted it yet.
#100yearsofdarkness

By masud Go To PostDrama leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering, suffering leads to lottery picks

t wouldn't work. He'd turn the whole room toxic. And that would mean you have a massive payroll being toxic for any young player that comes in.

Plus, Melo has several business interestes with Dolan. Dolan's not doing that to his business.

By masud Go To PostWith Hornacek recently saying that he's considering limiting the minutes of the veterans in order to get maximum effort Knick fandom has been discussing the possibility of bringing Melo off the bench. I'm with it in theory, we wouldn't have to try and hide multiple terrible defenders in the starting lineup anymore, we could play Melo more at the 4 (where he should be playing almost all of his minutes at this point), we could insert him against specific players to maximize what he has left, and it would prolong his career. Added bonus is that he might get pissed and waive his ntc (not happening lol). But the problem with benching Melo is that we don't have another starting 3 on the roster. Lance Thomas is a scrub on offense and Kuz (or Holiday) would be at a physical disadvantage most nights. I feel like we'd have to make a trade for this to work. One of our surplus bigs for a long defensive minded swing man, preferably one with a 3 point shot.

I don't even know how apparently a number of people can entertain the idea. It sets up a god awful precedent. Basketball wise, it makes no sense. Kiss goodbye to team cohesion. Etc. Ugh.

Benching Melo lmao.

"Get the fuck outta here" - Melo

By Gabyskra Go To PostI don't even know how apparently a number of people can entertain the idea. It sets up a god awful precedent. Basketball wise, it makes no sense. Kiss goodbye to team cohesion. Etc. Ugh.

What how can you even say that? Have you watched Melo play this year. He's been awful. I get the toxic stuff but it makes all the sense in the world from a basketball standpoint. Bottom line is Melo's best position is also the best position for our best overall player and future of the franchise.

They'll bench KP before they bench Melo because politics.

I want to tank, saw enough and makes the most sense.

By reilo Go To PostThey'll bench KP before they bench smell because politics.

When even auto-correct says lol Knicks.

lmao I didn't even notice that 😂

By masud Go To PostOh it's a new day son. Ya'll stole our pick in 2015 and still ended up with the worse player. The Lakers are the new Knicks you just haven't accepted it yet.
#100yearsofdarkness

preach!

By unknown Go To PostI want to tank, saw enough and makes the most sense.

Have you seen that kid Frank Ntilikina from France?

He is likely a top 10 draft kid..... I think the knicks could get him.

I mean. The one real positive is that the Knicks have stopped trading away their draft picks. That's putting them in a better position than they've been in for YEARS.

Knicks can turn it around. Way too much talent not to make the playoffs.

Just need LA to get to bottom 5 for that 33% shot at keeping their pick.

All this tank talk... damn.

By CRUD Go To PostAll this tank talk… damn.

The 8th seed out West is gonna be weak as fuck. LA is a 5 game win streak from it or a 5 game losing streak from a top pick. One of those things helps them in the future much more.

#FuckingUpForFultz

By giririsss Go To PostI mean. The one real positive is that the Knicks have stopped trading away their draft picks. That's putting them in a better position than they've been in for YEARS.

I like Hornacek too.

The knicks do have some nice pieces and the potential for cap space. I expect they will go hard this month but if they come out of it with a losing record they will look to make moves for the future and may trade some people (specifically KOQ)

If they come out of it winning they likely wont touch anything.

By Moris Go To PostJust need LA to get to bottom 5 for that 33% shot at keeping their pick.

Not sure they can get there after that start.

Nets, Suns, 76'ers, Mavs, Heat, Wolves are all worse at the moment. And 5 of those teams are legitimately bad teams (for varying reasons). LA's best hope would be the Heat and Wolves putting on a few wins.

Lakers have had the fourth hardest schedule and it's only gonna ease up. Sorry Moris, say goodbye to that pick.

By CRUD Go To PostAll this tank talk… damn.

tanking is one helluva drug.

By Zeus Ex Machina Go To PostI like Hornacek too.

The knicks do have some nice pieces and the potential for cap space. I expect they will go hard this month but if they come out of it with a losing record they will look to make moves for the future and may trade some people (specifically KOQ)

If they come out of it winning they likely wont touch anything.

I mean. You've got one, KP.

The rest are just pieces for the most part. There's the massively overpaid Rose and Noah. Rose is expiring, but in an NBA with a rapidly expanding Cap, that hasn't meant much for a while. And Melo who... i don't even know.

That's not to say they're BAD pieces. Just ... the wrong ones. Rose is playing ok (just not getting a ROI). Lee is solid. But the cupboard is pretty bare, really.

In what world is the noah contract even remotely logical?

Wait, Westbrook has a 42 USG%?! Oh my god, he's gonna die.

Kobe lead the league three times in USG%:

38.7% (2005-06)
35.7% (2011-12)
35.1% (2010-11)

Kobe's 38.7% is the highest mark in the history of the NBA, and Westbrook is gonna shatter it.

By butt Go To PostIn what world is the noah contract even remotely logical?

It isn't. It's probably the worst signing Phil has done... and it was a very poor one. A massive long shot.

By reilo Go To PostWait, Westbrook has a 42 USG%?! Oh my god, he's gonna die.

Kobe lead the league three times in USG%:

38.7% (2005-06)
35.7% (2011-12)
35.1% (2010-11)

Kobe's 38.7% is the highest mark in the history of the NBA, and Westbrook is gonna shatter it.

That's what I've been saying.

Westbrook's biggest achievement this year wouldn't be an MVP trophy, it would be surviving.

By giririsss Go To PostI mean. You've got one, KP.

The rest are just pieces for the most part. There's the massively overpaid Rose and Noah. Rose is expiring, but in an NBA with a rapidly expanding Cap, that hasn't meant much for a while. And Melo who… i don't even know.

That's not to say they're BAD pieces. Just … the wrong ones. Rose is playing ok (just not getting a ROI). Lee is solid. But the cupboard is pretty bare, really.

Hey Hernangomez has real potential. Kuz is solid too he just doesn't have potential cause he's old.

You just made those names up.

Not my fault you dont stay abreast of Knicks basketball. They can both play.

By giririsss Go To PostIt isn't. It's probably the worst signing Phil has done… and it was a very poor one. A massive long shot.

Phil's worst signing was Melo. By far.

By masud Go To PostNot my fault you dont stay abreast of Knicks basketball. They can both play.
Phil's worst signing was Melo. By far.

Like. There's so many ways the Melo one was defensible. For many reasons (not all of them about on the court production).

I'm not saying it was GOOD. But ... defensible. Noah was just ... a very long shot.

By giririsss Go To PostLike. There's so many ways the Melo one was defensible. For many reasons (not all of them about on the court production).

I'm not saying it was GOOD. But … defensible. Noah was just … a very long shot.

The no trade clause puts the Melo deal over the top for me (only other players in the league with them are Dirk and Lebron). He basically handed the franchise to an aging "superstar" whos never won anything and committed to 5 years of losing.