By Vivalapizza Go To PostIm not sure that makes much sense tbh. And not sure why you would put stock in that. That just sounds like a player with high potential, or perhaps some other issue like injury or a shit team/manager.I guess it boils down to YOUR definition or idea of world class then!
Pogba is a not a good comparison either because at least he has been playing and proving himself at the top level for the last few years. Lukaku hasn't done that.
I think Ibrahimovic has had that criticism attached to him for a long long time.
It's not just about playing in big games which is why I didn't say big games. Lukaku has often failed to produce for Everton/Belgium or missed simple chances at key moments, like 'easy' games at home or simple chances late on in matches.
By Ciaran Go To PostFWIW I think Lukaku is just as terrible as IcardiI'd like Icardi at Chelsea.
Our cuntmetre has gone down since Terry doesn't play and Conte has turned Costa in a nice boy.
Lukaku scores a lot of goals in a team that has no other goal scorers. I think he's explosive as fuck and capable of real magic, but a few of the Chelsea boys had it right earlier; he whines whines whines at his teammates and he didn't back himself against Ba, Eto'o and Torres.
It's commendable he went to Everton to play. The fact he's still there...
Every top player his age should be at a club with bigger aspirations than Everton if they're doing something right.
It's commendable he went to Everton to play. The fact he's still there...
Every top player his age should be at a club with bigger aspirations than Everton if they're doing something right.
Well Fonte out might mean they're lining up another bid for Sakho.
£8m for Saints apparently. Good signing for Bilic down the stretch.
£8m for Saints apparently. Good signing for Bilic down the stretch.
It's a very good signing though I don't understand why he'd choose to go there.
Then again, Southampton aren't doing too hot either. Actually below West Ham.
Then again, Southampton aren't doing too hot either. Actually below West Ham.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostI'd like Icardi at Chelsea.not a team player and has the shittiest attitude
Our cuntmetre has gone down since Terry doesn't play and Conte has turned Costa in a nice boy.
Can only assume they are paying him a fair bit more than he is getting now. His last 'big' contract.
Telegraphs 20 best defenders in the premier league so far this season
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/01/18/20-best-premier-league-defenders-season-far/
and the best 20 midfielders
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/01/19/20-best-premier-league-midfielders-season-far/
Do you agree?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/01/18/20-best-premier-league-defenders-season-far/
and the best 20 midfielders
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/01/19/20-best-premier-league-midfielders-season-far/
Do you agree?
By n8 dogg Go To PostEvery top player his age should be at a club with bigger aspirations than Everton if they're doing something right.
I think he probably wants to leave but nobody wants to pay the price you know Ev will ask. 90m for an annoying twat like that
By n8 dogg Go To PostLukaku scores a lot of goals in a team that has no other goal scorers. I think he's explosive as fuck and capable of real magic, but a few of the Chelsea boys had it right earlier; he whines whines whines at his teammates and he didn't back himself against Ba, Eto'o and Torres.Didnt he want to leave Everton? I dont think any top clubs wanted him since he wasnt really at his best last season.
It's commendable he went to Everton to play. The fact he's still there…
Every top player his age should be at a club with bigger aspirations than Everton if they're doing something right.
Plus Martinez left, and probably Koeman talked him out of leaving. At least prove himself for another year.
I like him as a striker, but man, he's such a cunt. Was giving other players shit for not being at the position he wanted them to be in the City game, when you could see if they did they would be too open to a counter anyway.
By Diego! Go To PostTelegraphs 20 best defenders in the premier league so far this season
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/01/18/20-best-premier-league-defenders-season-far/
and the best 20 midfielders
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/01/19/20-best-premier-league-midfielders-season-far/
Do you agree?
By Ciaran Go To Postnot a team player and has the shittiest attitudeImagine if Terry fucks Wanda Icardi tho
By Diego! Go To PostTelegraphs 20 best defenders in the premier league so far this season
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/01/18/20-best-premier-league-defenders-season-far/
and the best 20 midfielders
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/01/19/20-best-premier-league-midfielders-season-far/
Do you agree?
Otamendi ahead of Vertonghen.
No.
By Wedward Go To PostStrong people smile with a broken heart, cry with the doors closed and fight battles no one else knows about.
If you were wondering....
Welcome to PSG Alexis! Fighting for that contract must be exhausting, lad.
By Ciaran Go To Postnot a team player and has the shittiest attitude
Yes I wish he had the kind of cunt attitude Costa got. Even if he goes off on team mates and such at times, he always fights for the team. Icardi is just a bad cunt, the kind of cunt I wish was better just like Mitrovic as they would be hilarious to have at Chelsea.
By Diego! Go To PostTelegraphs 20 best defenders in the premier league so far this seasondisgusting list,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/01/18/20-best-premier-league-defenders-season-far/
and the best 20 midfielders
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/01/19/20-best-premier-league-midfielders-season-far/
Do you agree?
By Wedward Go To PostOtamendi ahead of Vertonghen.
No.
Otemendi is a rock
By Vivalapizza Go To PostThis term gets through around a lot but there are clear arguments that can be made that put at least Lewandowski, Suarez and Aguero ahead of the others names mentioned there. Mostly consistency, which is imo the critical factor when it comes to the very best players.
Costa is a good player, sure, playing very well right now. But he was so shit last season I couldn't fairly say he's as good as those others.
Since Ibrahimovic has been mentioned, I think you could set him apart based on the fact he's been playing in a joke league and not done much out of it for the last few years.
Similar arguments to be made against Higuain also, and maybe Griezmann who has apparently been really crap in lots of important games for Atletico.
Yeah this is the biggest thing for me and where most fall down, ESPECIALLY English players (Tottenham aside Bungie pls)
By Diego! Go To PostTelegraphs 20 best defenders in the premier league so far this seasonNo Alderweireld, Vertonghen at 20th? Eriksen 1st in the mid list? Awful lists.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/01/18/20-best-premier-league-defenders-season-far/
and the best 20 midfielders
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/01/19/20-best-premier-league-midfielders-season-far/
Do you agree?
Eriksen only really turned his season around in the last two months
By Wedward Go To PostSuffering from depression confirmed.
By FlutterPuffs Go To PostI actually just saw this. Cavani, what a legend.He's gone full Torres.
There is no way otamendi is anywhere near the best 20 defenders in the league
Team of the season so far in the VOGUE 3-4-3 (only from the top 6 because they're the only good teams):
Lloris; Azpilicueta, Luiz, Alderweireld; Lallana, Henderson, Kante, Rose; Alli, Costa, Sanchez
(Courtois, Walker, Kane, Mane, Eriksen, Hazard, Ibrahimovic)
7-20 team in a more tradish 4-2-3-1
Heaton; C Dawson, Van Dijk, Mee, Friend; Gueye, Romeu; Antonio, Hendrick, Snodgrass; Rondon
(Grant, Coleman, A Smith, Clayton, Wilshere, Defoe, Lukaku)
Team of the season so far in the VOGUE 3-4-3 (only from the top 6 because they're the only good teams):
Lloris; Azpilicueta, Luiz, Alderweireld; Lallana, Henderson, Kante, Rose; Alli, Costa, Sanchez
(Courtois, Walker, Kane, Mane, Eriksen, Hazard, Ibrahimovic)
7-20 team in a more tradish 4-2-3-1
Heaton; C Dawson, Van Dijk, Mee, Friend; Gueye, Romeu; Antonio, Hendrick, Snodgrass; Rondon
(Grant, Coleman, A Smith, Clayton, Wilshere, Defoe, Lukaku)
By Perfect Blue Go To PostJust saying Zlatan never gets knocked for flailing around in big games throughout his career but that same criticism is used against a young player with very little, if any, experience in playing in big games.
You're joking right? He never gets knocked for it? People say that shit all the time.
some players can be "world class" in certain teams and completely ordinary in others.
Torres for instance...used to put the fear of God into Vidic and then something happened when he went to Chelsea
Torres for instance...used to put the fear of God into Vidic and then something happened when he went to Chelsea
By Bold 2 in One Go To Postsome players can be "world class" in certain teams and completely ordinary in others.He was used constantly by Benitez despite his niggling injuries. That could have fucked him up a bit.
Torres for instance…used to put the fear of God into Vidic and then something happened when he went to Chelsea
And his confidence was just destroyed after.
By Bold 2 in One Go To Postsome players can be "world class" in certain teams and completely ordinary in others.His decline started well before he went to Chelsea
Torres for instance…used to put the fear of God into Vidic and then something happened when he went to Chelsea
I thought he was just sulking under Hodgson, but his head and legs were gone.
Payet 8th, above Coutinho
Are they having a fucking giraffe?
Don't give a shit how many 5 yard passes he's played for Zaza to balloon high and wide and count as a chance created.
Are they having a fucking giraffe?
Don't give a shit how many 5 yard passes he's played for Zaza to balloon high and wide and count as a chance created.
What does world class even mean.
Anyway Costa>your favorite player. Unless your favorite player is David Luiz.
Anyway Costa>your favorite player. Unless your favorite player is David Luiz.
By Woodenpapangus Go To PostWhat does world class even mean.
It means that you are cool and good, and they put a little more work in when they model your face in FIFA.
By Woodenpapangus Go To PostWhat does world class even mean.Good enough to enter a starting eleven in a galactic football match to the death.
By FlutterPuffs Go To PostGood enough to enter a starting eleven in a galactic football match to the death.
By Hitch Go To PostAt least Henderson got his dues, even though I'd have him below Kante
Even i put him in my team and i fucking hate that cunt
By Esch Go To PostIt means that you are cool and good, and they put a little more work in when they model your face in FIFA.Indeed. See the rise of Suarez from a prospect to a world class striker by FIFA's model work.
By Slizz Go To PostIs that Moses?
How can you hate him :(
He's only dived once, and made a terribly dangerous tackle once in his career. And the latter was against City :P
He is a bit of a wannabe hard lad, and he ain't fooling anyone with it
He's only dived once, and made a terribly dangerous tackle once in his career. And the latter was against City :P
He is a bit of a wannabe hard lad, and he ain't fooling anyone with it
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