By reilo Go To PostPilon was right"1.61 per" ... what is that supposed to be
http://stats.nba.com/players/defense-dash-lt6/#!?CF=PLAYER_POSITION*E*F:FGA_LT_06*GE*3&Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=LT_06_PCT&dir=-1
His rim protection is fine.. even pretty good. But lets not go overboard. Also he plays 58% of his minutes at PF
Trey Lyles isn't some monster rim protector, he plays with one. KD has some of the same things going on.
By masud Go To PostI don't care what his numbers are if you give KD MVP the award becomes a joke.
Basically. Its Westbrook this season.
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/244409/RJ-Hunter-Waived-By-Bulls
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The Chicago Bulls have waived R.J. Hunter.
During his time with the Bulls, Hunter (6-5, 185) appeared in three games and grabbed one rebound in nine total minutes.
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Hunter looked good to me when I saw him, but he was probably being guarded by Sasha Vucacic...
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By Kabro Go To PostMVB.
most valuable beta.
i'd roll with that.
That is for Curry.
I just want Presti to work some kind of magic to add some kind of significant addition to the Thunder so a Warriors/Thunder playoff series can actually cause KD to sweat a little
Like three first rounders for Millsap and Korver? IDK. Doubtful. But I need that series to be competitive.
Like three first rounders for Millsap and Korver? IDK. Doubtful. But I need that series to be competitive.
By Dark PhaZe Go To PostI just want Presti to work some kind of magic to add some kind of significant addition to the Thunder so a Warriors/Thunder playoff series can actually cause KD to sweat a littlethe Thunder will have to win a first round series first which is already a lot to ask
Like three first rounders for Millsap and Korver? IDK. Doubtful. But I need that series to be competitive.
By reilo Go To PostThree first rounders for a 31 year old and a 35 year old? The fuck.Knickish
By CRUD Go To PostBasically. Its Westbrook this season.OKC's record needs to be top 5 for him to get it.
By giririsss Go To PostOKC's record needs to be top 5 for him to get it.
I guess...
By giririsss Go To PostOKC's record needs to be top 5 for him to get it.
I just think they need to make the playoffs. But even if that's the criteria you give it to Harden or LeBron over KD.
By masud Go To PostI just think they need to make the playoffs. But even if that's the criteria you give it to Harden or LeBron over KD.Not advocating for KD.
But if you're the MOST valuable. THE best player. You better be able to get your team to the 5 seed at worst. Or you're simply not. Despite all your stats.
I will say, KD's defense is really underrated on this board. He's been playing really good D for a while. As a wing defender. He's not a real 4, nor is he a C as they sometimes try, despite his height.
Rim protection -by itself- is wild overrated. That's why nobody is really giving it that much attention.
The pace slows down on GS and they're still at the mercy of whatever big is making Zaza and Javale look stupid while Draymond is on the bench with dumb fouls again.
Brook Lopez was an elite rim protector at one point last year. Dude still gets banged on because of that fraud shit lol
The pace slows down on GS and they're still at the mercy of whatever big is making Zaza and Javale look stupid while Draymond is on the bench with dumb fouls again.
Brook Lopez was an elite rim protector at one point last year. Dude still gets banged on because of that fraud shit lol
By DY_nasty Go To PostRim protection -by itself- is wild overrated. That's why nobody is really giving it that much attention.It got Serge Iblocka paiiiiiiiiiiid
The pace slows down on GS and they're still at the mercy of whatever big is making Zaza and Javale look stupid while Draymond is on the bench with dumb fouls again.
Brook Lopez was an elite rim protector at one point last year. Dude still gets banged on because of that fraud shit lol
By giririsss Go To PostIt got Serge Iblocka paiiiiiiiiiiidNah that was block$
By etiolation Go To PostPost play matters. Fuck the erasure of it.But maths?
Look above you, there's clouds for you to yell at as Demarcus Cousins attempts nearly 5 threes a game.
post play is really benefecial. Post scoring? not soooooooooooooooooooo much.
As long as someone is a threat in the post and the defense has to react to that player, it can activate so much for an offense.
As long as someone is a threat in the post and the defense has to react to that player, it can activate so much for an offense.
By Kuma Go To PostCeltics about to get in the Cavs ass tonight
CloverGang is in the building!
I dunno...
By p s y Go To Postpost play is really benefecial. Post scoring? not soooooooooooooooooooo much.
As long as someone is a threat in the post and the defense has to react to that player, it can activate so much for an offense.
Essentially. The best teams are threats from all area's on the floor. Not just one.
Not necessarily mattering about "posting" but being able to reliably get inside.
By Kuma Go To PostCeltics about to get in the Cavs ass tonightyal could barely contain sessions
CloverGang is in the building!
kyrie gonna put IT in a blender
By DY_nasty Go To PostRim protection -by itself- is wild overrated. That's why nobody is really giving it that much attention.The "best" rim protection stat that we have may have access to is one that measures how many points a team gives up at the rim or in the paint (including free throws) per 100 possessions while a certain player is on the floor.
The pace slows down on GS and they're still at the mercy of whatever big is making Zaza and Javale look stupid while Draymond is on the bench with dumb fouls again.
Brook Lopez was an elite rim protector at one point last year. Dude still gets banged on because of that fraud shit lol
Now, it's still not that great because it would be very lineup dependent and could be thrown off if a team is just really, really, really bad at defending the 3pt line (i.e. why go for 2 when the 3 is so much easier?), but my reasoning is that if you are a great rim protector, then people just won't attempt to score against you in that area and, if they do, aren't successful at it.
By p s y Go To Postpost play is really benefecial. Post scoring? not soooooooooooooooooooo much.
As long as someone is a threat in the post and the defense has to react to that player, it can activate so much for an offense.
yes, but you got to actually score from the post for that threat to work.
By p s y Go To Postpost play is really benefecial. Post scoring? not soooooooooooooooooooo much.
As long as someone is a threat in the post and the defense has to react to that player, it can activate so much for an offense.
I'd say he's spending way too much time out at the 3pt line. They get better shots when they post him up, spread with 3pt shooters, and cut. Even under Joerger, they don't do that enough.
It's not like the Hakeem rockets lacked for 3pt shots or SVG's Magic teams with Dwight. They got it on kickouts and they got really wide open threes off the attention the post draws. (Not to mention the Vlade/Webber Kings and all the high quality shots they got.)
I don't think it's a pure coincidence that the PnR spread out for threes offense rose up at a period of time where there was a gap in young big men talent. The concept will be put to the test with a lot of young bigs, who can shoot the three, but are also a triple threat from the post.
Yeah there's no way teams were getting .78 points per shot in the post in the 90's. Those numbers just reflect the lack of front court talent in the league lately.
I think you're arguing the same thing.
The 3pt shot is super powerful.
But to get the 3pt shot, you need to be a threat inside and all over the other areas.
in the 2000 - 2010 era, that was achieved by running a ton of PnR's and forcing the inside rotation off of the penetration.
2010 - Now more motion offense.
We could see it come back, from straight up post ups. But ... Guys like KAT and Brow are just as deadly in the PnR as they are in a straight up post up. High or Low.
The 3pt shot is super powerful.
But to get the 3pt shot, you need to be a threat inside and all over the other areas.
in the 2000 - 2010 era, that was achieved by running a ton of PnR's and forcing the inside rotation off of the penetration.
2010 - Now more motion offense.
We could see it come back, from straight up post ups. But ... Guys like KAT and Brow are just as deadly in the PnR as they are in a straight up post up. High or Low.
By masud Go To PostYeah there's no way teams were getting .78 points per shot in the post in the 90's. Those numbers just reflect the lack of front court talent in the league lately.The 90's NBA rules didn't allow the kinds of defenses that really punish the 90's style of post-ups.
With the amount of switching teams are doing, post-play could be a huge advantage. Joe Johnson is money when he gets a 2 guard on him in the post on a switch.
Those numbers reflect changing NBA rules. Zone and hand checking rules made this transition happen, not just lack of "talent". The league is as talented as it's ever been. Anyone that thinks otherwise is lying to themselves.
By domino Go To Postis Rubio even their biggest problem? i figure just being young as shit and Thibs were the top 2.He's their problem because he's the only thing that 'works'
Fucked up that whole organizations perspective. Its the same thing as Ty Lawson in Denver without all the drunk driving and actually decent numbers.
You got centers pulling up threes, good at them too and in multiples. It's gonna fuck everything up tbh.
By p s y Go To Postso nice to see film back up what I've been saying for years lol
you can't have teams just not guard the ballhandler. even brandon jennings requires a guy to stay somewhat near him
By Tea Go To PostYou got centers pulling up threes, good at them too and in multiples. It's gonna fuck everything up tbh.How? We lambast players all the time for not learning nor expanding their skill set, and now that we are filled with arguably the most skilled group of ball players this league has ever seen, we claim it'll fuck shit up in the future? Because tall men are gonna grow up and learn how to shoot from 25 feet out?
By reilo Go To PostHow? We lambast players all the time for not learning nor expanding their skill set, and now that we are filled with arguably the most skilled group of ball players this league has ever seen, we claim it'll fuck shit up in the future? Because tall men are gonna grow up and learn how to shoot from 25 feet out?Game changed. Teams used to be 'special' for having a stretch 4 - you couldn't win a finals game without one.
Now - Is there even a team with a winning record that doesn't have a big that can step out?
By DY_nasty Go To PostGame changed. Teams used to be 'special' for having a stretch 4 - you couldn't win a finals game without one.Exactly! And the product is the most entertaining it's ever been. Chris Bosh was labeled "soft" for not getting his ass in the post but his skill set was just the dawn of today's era and it was a major key in Miami. A guy like Draymond would've been benched and never seen the light of day in the 90's because hall of fame coaching thought he was doing too much of the thing that makes him hyper valuable today and not enough of the shit long gone from an era I hope we never see again.
Now - Is there even a team with a winning record that doesn't have a big that can step out?
Who really wants to see Barkley-types in 2016 getting the ball near the three point line and start positing up for twenty feet at a time to the point they had to devise a rule to keep it under 5 seconds?
By Dark PhaZe Go To Posthttp://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/244409/RJ-Hunter-Waived-By-Bulls
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But you know he's going to be in the Shenzhen Leopards locker room telling war stories about that rebound.