@shun I remember you wanted to know more about why many of us dislike the ncaa and, well, I stumbled across a great piece that explains much of it and the culture surrounding collegiate sports in America: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/10/the-shame-of-college-sports/308643/
From that article that I posted earlier, to make it somewhat more basketball related:
The late Myles Brand, who led the NCAA from 2003 to 2009, defended the economics of college sports by claiming that they were simply the result of a smoothly functioning free market. He and his colleagues deflected criticism about the money saturating big-time college sports by focusing attention on scapegoats; in 2010, outrage targeted sports agents. Last year Sports Illustrated published “Confessions of an Agent,” a firsthand account of dealing with high-strung future pros whom the agent and his peers courted with flattery, cash, and tawdry favors. Nick Saban, Alabama’s head football coach, mobilized his peers to denounce agents as a public scourge. “I hate to say this,” he said, “but how are they any better than a pimp? I have no respect for people who do that to young people. None.”
Saban’s raw condescension contrasts sharply with the lonely penitence from Dale Brown, the retired longtime basketball coach at LSU. “Look at the money we make off predominantly poor black kids,” Brown once reflected. “We’re the whoremasters.”
But really, everyone needs to take an hour or so and read through that whole thing. So many good excerpts.
and here i thought we just hated college basketball cause the games are shit. everybody loves college football.
By domino Go To Postand here i thought we just hated college basketball cause the games are shit. everybody loves college football.I think in many ways college football is even worse given the much more likelyhood of injuries. And the brain damage. For no compensation.
By domino Go To Postand here i thought we just hated college basketball cause the games are shit. everybody loves college football.Shun was wondering why myself, DY, and some others just react with disgust anytime the NCAA is brought up. There are lots of reasons why, but that article does a good job at explaining many of them in addition to giving the context that Shun, in particular, is missing as someone who doesn't know much about the organization or collegiate sports.
By Kibner Go To PostShun was wondering why myself, DY, and some others just react with disgust anytime the NCAA is brought up. There are lots of reasons why, but that article does a good job at explaining many of them in addition to giving the context that Shun, in particular, is missing as someone who doesn't know much about the organization or collegiate sports.Its one of those things that a lot of people love to shove their head in the sand about.
And the universities love to try and mythologise / nostalgia / shame those who aren't old enough to know better, about.
Miami’s Hassan Whiteside, Atlanta’s Dwight Howard, Minnesota’s Karl-Anthony Towns, Sacramento’s DeMarcus Cousins and Gasol have averaged 11.2 points on 30.1 percent shooting in their matchups with Gobert over the last month. Gobert’s numbers in those five games, four of which Utah won: averages of 14 points, 13.2 rebounds and 4.0 blocks, hitting 77.4 percent of his field goal attempts. Utah was plus-66 with him on the floor.I knew i wasn't imaging things.
I still have time before we get beat by 30 tomorrow @GSW to be positive.
By diehard Go To PostI knew i wasn't imaging things.Gobert of Favors.
I still have time before we get beat by 30 tomorrow @GSW to be positive.
Which do you keep?
By giririsss Go To PostGobert of Favors.Now its Gobert for sure. I love Favors but his injuries are worrying.
Which do you keep?
Biggest bullshit to me was making money off these kids and their likeness and them not seeing a dime. Especially when they get put in video games and shit. Least someone sued.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O'Bannon_v._NCAA
More info.
This shit makes absolutely no sense. Athletes sure do play better when they can't even afford to eat and gotta beg coaches for scraps.
On another topic my mom just calls Blake, Dumbass. Every. Time. It kills me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O'Bannon_v._NCAA
More info.
Front and center in the N.C.A.A.’s complaint is a 31-year-old Supreme Court ruling, N.C.A.A. v. Board of Regents of the University of Oklahoma, to which the N.C.A.A. argued Judge Wilken failed to pay proper deference. In that case, the court stripped the N.C.A.A. of its right to control college football TV rights, but also issued a dictum that has become the bedrock of the N.C.A.A.’s legal defense over the years. “To preserve the character and quality of the ‘product,’ athletes must not be paid,” it read.
To preserve the character and quality of the ‘product,’ athletes must not be paid
This shit makes absolutely no sense. Athletes sure do play better when they can't even afford to eat and gotta beg coaches for scraps.
On another topic my mom just calls Blake, Dumbass. Every. Time. It kills me.
I dont think that is directed at me I'm not trying to shove my head in the sand. I only know bits and pieces from other students and I am actually curious about it.
I don't think giris head in sand statement was directed at you either, he was saying generally people want to ignore the ugliness and root for their alma mater or local teams. Anyway I posted my disgust because of the obvious cognitive dissonance surrounding quality of play and being paid. Why even have professional sports with that opinion?
By pilonv1 Go To PostI want to trip about Batum a lot these days but he's about what you'd expect from two Evan Turners
So basically it would cost them an Evan Turner
By pilonv1 Go To Post
So basically it would cost them an Evan Turner
holy jesus. who else qualifies for this?
By shun Go To PostI dont think that is directed at me I'm not trying to shove my head in the sand. I only know bits and pieces from other students and I am actually curious about it.
By Tea Go To PostI don't think giris head in sand statement was directed at you either, he was saying generally people want to ignore the ugliness and root for their alma mater or local teams. Anyway I posted my disgust because of the obvious cognitive dissonance surrounding quality of play and being paid. Why even have professional sports with that opinion?
Yeah, wasn't targeted at you.
By domino Go To Postholy jesus. who else qualifies for this?
Has to be on drafted team, All-Nba or MVP etc.. in last three years. So I think it ends up being Steph, Davis, Cousins, Wall, Westbrook and a few others. Maybe Klay/Draymond would be eligible too.
By pilonv1 Go To Post
So basically it would cost them an Evan Turner
They need to just spell out the yearly payout difference. The extra year means nothing to stars of this caliber because the quicker they can get to a new contract the better. If LeBron had signed a long term extension with Cleveland from year 1 he'd be significantly underpaid.
The per year salary difference via this new vet shit is hugely significant though. Anthony Davis will have something to think about in a few years for sure.
man i bet YNB feels silly for taking that contract
By domino Go To Postso wall is never leaving washington lol.doesnt qualify.
By diehard Go To Postman i bet YNB feels silly for taking that contract
doesnt qualify.
I thought he had a chance if he made an all-NBA team this year?
By pilonv1 Go To PostHas to be on drafted team, All-Nba or MVP etc.. in last three years. So I think it ends up being Steph, Davis, Cousins, Wall, Westbrook and a few others. Maybe Klay/Draymond would be eligible too.Damian, for sure.
Asik is roughly .5 Evan Turners.
I think I like this counting system.
How are you going to pay Mike Conley 2.2 Evan Turners?
By reilo Go To PostAmian, for sure.fixed
By DY_nasty Go To Postfixed
Amian Lillar
By blackace Go To PostHow are you going to pay Mike Conley 2.2 Evan Turners?I dunno, I think that's good value right there for Money Mike.
By pilonv1 Go To PostAmian Lillartop 5 euro point guard
By pilonv1 Go To PostI thought he had a chance if he made an all-NBA team this year?yeah but will he?
By pilonv1 Go To PostDamn that's like another tax bracket.
So basically it would cost them an Evan Turner
By unknown Go To Postwiz are lowkey getting it together,
I'm actually watching them play for once. A win against the clips and then a win in the road on a back to back would be impressive
By Dark PhaZe Go To PostI'm actually watching them play for once. A win against the clips and then a win in the road on a back to back would be impressiveThe are like two different teams on the road and at home
By pilonv1 Go To PostAmian Lillar
lol
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By Kabro Go To PostGive us nerlens you monsters! 😭
Clarkson + Randle seems like a fair trade for such a malcontent 3rd string Center who just feel out of the rotation.
By Moris Go To PostClarkson + Randle seems like a fair trade for such a malcontent 3rd string Center who just feel out of the rotation.
That's probably an overpay but aite
By Moris Go To PostClarkson + Randle seems like a fair trade for such a malcontent 3rd string Center who just feel out of the rotation.Wat.
You cray.
By Moris Go To PostClarkson + Randle seems like a fair trade for such a malcontent 3rd string Center who just feel out of the rotation.even I think that is a bit much.
we are fucked
Oh wow.. Laker fans overrating decent rolelpayers...
Good, good... let the delusions of grandeur flow through you. Your path to becoming the Knicks will be complete!
Good, good... let the delusions of grandeur flow through you. Your path to becoming the Knicks will be complete!