By shun Go To PostDon't players, the scouted ones at least, get full lifetime scholarships to come back and finish their education whenever they want? At least that is what Calipari says about his players.That scholarship is garbage if you're NBA level talent. Why get a free $50k degree in sociology or communication in 4 years time when you can be making $100k/yr playing basketball? Latter is more than a livable wage especially if you come from a poor background like most of these kids do. NCAA exploits kids while the schools and organization makes billions over their free labor, plain and simple.
Wouldn't you want to be guaranteed education?
Sorry if I misunderstand this from my surface understanding of Division 1 sports at cal.
We're running a lineup without Hayward, Hood, Hill, and Favors right now and I'm not exactly sure where the offense is going to come from, but we've scored 3 out of the 4 nights down the court so I guess something is going right?
Gobert completely dominating Adams, Jazz playing very good overall defense against YNB.
Gobert completely dominating Adams, Jazz playing very good overall defense against YNB.
I see that they play for free and exploit and should be paid, but isn't education important. The point isn't staying there for 4 years before they leave but to be able to go back and have a fall back and a means to develop more skills if something like Greg Oden happens again.
I'm not trying to defend what they do I am just trying to understand when the NBA and professional sports can be volatile.
I'm not trying to defend what they do I am just trying to understand when the NBA and professional sports can be volatile.
By shun Go To PostI see that they play for free and exploit and should be paid, but isn't education important. The point isn't staying there for 4 years before they leave but to be able to go back and have a fall back and a means to develop more skills if something like Greg Oden happens again.It's a hollow argument. If they went there for the education they'd stay 4 years. But the NCAA isn't actually about that at all. Not even close.
I'm not trying to defend what they do I am just trying to understand when the NBA and professional sports can be volatile.
We're booing Kanter hard right now when Kanter's life has fallen apart and he would be arrested if he went back to his home country and I just don't know....
He's a jerkoff, but it would nice to not boo for a minute...
He's a jerkoff, but it would nice to not boo for a minute...
By IWMTB19 Go To PostWe're booing Kanter hard right now when Kanter's life has fallen apart and he would be arrested if he went back to his home country and I just don't know….how come they are booing him?
He's a jerkoff, but it would nice to not boo for a minute…
By shun Go To PostI see that they play for free and exploit and should be paid, but isn't education important. The point isn't staying there for 4 years before they leave but to be able to go back and have a fall back and a means to develop more skills if something like Greg Oden happens again.Greg Oden made $24mil for his career. I think that's worth more than $50k communications degree.
I'm not trying to defend what they do I am just trying to understand when the NBA and professional sports can be volatile.
Also, there's no such thing as a useful 2 year degree or a pat on the back for completing 2 out of 4 years in college.
Holy shit, someone just made a full-court shot at the buzzer.
That never happens anymore because no one even shoots those anymore.
That never happens anymore because no one even shoots those anymore.
By IWMTB19 Go To PostWe're booing Kanter hard right now when Kanter's life has fallen apart and he would be arrested if he went back to his home country and I just don't know….Dude, Kanter said he would die for Gullen and would let his family die to serve him. He's more than a jerkoff, he sucks.
He's a jerkoff, but it would nice to not boo for a minute…
By reilo Go To PostDude, Kanter said he would die for Gullen and would let his family die to serve him. He's more than a jerkoff, he sucks.
I mean yeah, but it just feels weird when you're booing a dude in the "wanted by dictator for treason in home country" category.
By IWMTB19 Go To PostI mean yeah, but it just feels weird when you're booing a dude in the "wanted by dictator for treason in home country" category.We'll be in that basket soon my friend.
By IWMTB19 Go To PostI mean yeah, but it just feels weird when you're booing a dude in the "wanted by dictator for treason in home country" category.Pretty sure they're booing him cause he talked shit about the Jazz and not his political beliefs.
By shun Go To PostI see that they play for free and exploit and should be paid, but isn't education important. The point isn't staying there for 4 years before they leave but to be able to go back and have a fall back and a means to develop more skills if something like Greg Oden happens again.Greg Oden is a millionaire though.
I'm not trying to defend what they do I am just trying to understand when the NBA and professional sports can be volatile.
Idealism aside, a college education is just a means of maybe securing financial security, if you can even find a job in your field psst-graduation.
How is going to the league any different? What percentage of these kids even secured the proper education in high school, to be able to earn a degree that'll be worth a shit?
Greek Freak's brother bombed out of the league, but is now overseas making $500K USD a year. Yeah, fuck going back to college.
Favors has completely dominated Kanter tonight, fundamental defense sooooo goooood.
I know why we're booing him >_>
Pretty sure they're booing him cause he talked shit about the Jazz and not his political beliefs.
I know why we're booing him >_>
Kyle Singler just got dunked on by Gobert and then got his stuffed on a block on the other end.
It's been rough for him.
Jazz up by 16.
It's been rough for him.
Jazz up by 16.
By IWMTB19 Go To PostI mean yeah, but it just feels weird when you're booing a dude in the "wanted by dictator for treason in home country" category.I'm pretty sure about 1% of the people there know this.
I forgot about it :/
By pilonv1 Go To Postwhy am I the only one talking about Brook Lopez having his soul eaten?forever didn't post about it
By unknown Go To Postforever didn't post about it
I know he's lurking because they have a lead in the 4th
By pilonv1 Go To PostSensational
lawd
By pilonv1 Go To PostI know he's lurking because they have a lead in the 4thI've been posting throughout the whole game foh.
By Colonel Nasty Go To PostNets bench is the best part of that vineits a vine? it looks like an image for me, got an alternate link?
By unknown Go To Postits a vine? it looks like an image for me, got an alternate link?
I posted it about 10 posts above
http://slaent.com/thread/939027/page/56/post/953525/
By shun Go To PostI see that they play for free and exploit and should be paid, but isn't education important. The point isn't staying there for 4 years before they leave but to be able to go back and have a fall back and a means to develop more skills if something like Greg Oden happens again.There is a lot going on that doesn't contribute to the NCAA being a good fall-back plan for an aspiring pro athlete to stick with for all four years under scholarship.
I'm not trying to defend what they do I am just trying to understand when the NBA and professional sports can be volatile.
- Scholarships are not for four years. They have to be renewed each semester (half-year). The school can pull a scholarship from a "student-athlete" at any time for any reason
- If a player is injured through the course of playing for the team, he is not guaranteed any monetary help with treatment or rehab from the school. They are also allowed to pull his scholarship at the same time.
- Schools have a limited number of scholarships they can give out that is mandated by the NCAA. Under-performing players that are cut also have the scholarship taken from them.
- If a player leaves early for a professional league, the player is no longer eligible for an athletic scholarship at any NCAA institution.
- Players do not own rights to their names or likeness for their college careers. If they had a famous moment and then got hurt (and scholarship pulled), they are unable to use that moment of theirs to earn enough income to continue their education and/or injury treatment.
In short, NCAA scholarships are only guaranteed on a per-semester basis and there is no fall-back option available to the players whatsoever under the system if they get hurt.
By pilonv1 Go To PostI posted it about 10 posts abovedam he got murdered, kado would be proud.
http://slaent.com/thread/939027/page/56/post/953525/
Oh, all that isn't to also mention that players are often "highly encouraged" to take easy, worthless classes so that they maintain academic eligibility. The quality of their education is dubious, to say the least.
By Kibner Go To PostThere is a lot going on that doesn't contribute to the NCAA being a good fall-back plan for an aspiring pro athlete to stick with for all four years under scholarship.
- Scholarships are not for four years. They have to be renewed each semester (half-year). The school can pull a scholarship from a "student-athlete" at any time for any reason
- If a player is injured through the course of playing for the team, he is not guaranteed any monetary help with treatment or rehab from the school. They are also allowed to pull his scholarship at the same time.
- Schools have a limited number of scholarships they can give out that is mandated by the NCAA. Under-performing players that are cut also have the scholarship taken from them.
- If a player leaves early for a professional league, the player is no longer eligible for an athletic scholarship at any NCAA institution.
- Players do not own rights to their names or likeness for their college careers. If they had a famous moment and then got hurt (and scholarship pulled), they are unable to use that moment of theirs to earn enough income to continue their education and/or injury treatment.
In short, NCAA scholarships are only guaranteed on a per-semester basis and there is no fall-back option available to the players whatsoever under the system if they get hurt.
See I'm trying to understand it because this is still kind of a foreign concept to me how these things work. I'm a foreign youngblood.
This only come up because I see that Greg Oden, after making what he did, is back at school to finish up and working as a development coach at his university.
Yeah, Westbrook was really going to take a leaning 3 with 10 seconds on the game clock 6 feet behind the line. That should totally be a shooting foul.
If you are projected to be a first round NBA pick, first three rounds of NFL draft pick, or similar for other sports, you go get that money. You get enough guaranteed to afford like 10 years of education at the school of your choice while still living comfortably from the guaranteed money in that rookie contract.
I don't know if a core of Randle, Russell, and Ingram is enough.
I could see 2012-2013 Westbrook taking that shot.
Yeah, Westbrook was really going to take a leaning 3 with 10 seconds on the game clock 6 feet behind the line. That should totally be a shooting foul.
I could see 2012-2013 Westbrook taking that shot.
Seeing what Kibner posted reinforces my thought that they should be paid seeing how volatile and unsteady it can be for athlete.
Sorry for cluttering the topic I was just curious about how it works.
Sorry for cluttering the topic I was just curious about how it works.
By IWMTB19 Go To PostI could see 2012-2013 Westbrook taking that shot.Yeah but then the NBA was cracking down on "initiating the contact" but not anymore. Gone the way of "don't touch the ball after you score!" , and "tuck in your jersey!" or "don't talk back to the refs!"
By kjack Go To PostGrizz arena guy was just playing a track from the Samurai Champloo OST.They play "whoop that trick" a lot. Their arena people own and are up there with the Hawks and Knicks.
My. Nigga.
By IWMTB19 Go To PostI don't know if a core of Randle, Russell, and Ingram is enough.its our interior D that's the glaring problem.
I could see 2012-2013 Westbrook taking that shot.
we're getting killed inside every night.
I dont know what the hell Luke was thinking of why Mozgov was the primary choice instead of going after Bizmax :(
By shun Go To PostSeeing what Kibner posted reinforces my thought that they should be paid seeing how volatile and unsteady it can be for athlete.No problem, man. The NCAA can be a very complicated topic. If there is something you would like me to explain or go more in depth on, let me know.
Sorry for cluttering the topic I was just curious about how it works.
