By Laboured Go To PostDepressing reading on what's happening at United. Most of it has been mentioned before and most of it has been proven true.
http://www.theunitedpages.com/why-firemanmou/
One surprising tidbit is that Mkhi supposedly broke down and requested a transfer after being subbed off in the City game. Hope that's not true but could be.
i could buy the crying since it's in character but that transfer request would be astonishing.
this part is the most disheartening for me though. beef with a kid that has looked up to you his whole life brehs.
Matters reached a head after the game at Watford. Rooney and Rashford supposedly clashed over an interview the youngster gave saying he could play in the number 10 role, currently being occupied by Rooney.
If Micky really requested a transfer after getting subbed for being shit then he has no balls and we'd be well shot of him. Still tho. The United Pages doesn't exactly sound 100% reliable. And all the other stuff could have been cobbled together by trawling through old Red Issue forum posts.
By Pennywise Go To Post
40m €.
By Laboured Go To PostOne surprising tidbit is that Mkhi supposedly broke down and requested a transfer after being subbed off in the City game. Hope that's not true but could be.
This surely can't be real?
By Splatt Go To PostThis surely can't be real?He's soft. That we know.
Hell the whole team is, sans probably Pogba, Ibra, Lingard, Herrera, Mata and De Gea.
And when it comes to Martial. I love him but man, other than one or two games he's far what we are expecting of him. This creates problems because Mou's team generally need grinta on the sides. Instead we are stuck with Lingard (not his fault this, he's just not good enough against big clubs), a dead Depay, soft Miki, distracted Martial, one dimensional Rashford (its not his role) and old Young that cant even beat their markers half their potential.
Taking that with a pinch of salt about Mkhi.
The Rooney-Rashford bust up wouldn't surprise me though. Fair few on RI seem to have gone with it.
The Rooney-Rashford bust up wouldn't surprise me though. Fair few on RI seem to have gone with it.
You lot playing the weekend league in fifa, where's my rewards? Do you have to finish all your games to get to get them or something? No one has time for that.
mickyteriyaki should have chosen arsenal, the soft lad's natural habitat.
his only fate is death now, and kebabs.
his only fate is death now, and kebabs.
Gonna be a huge clear out in the summer.
Got a proper spineless bunch of players. Badly need to get rid of them.
Got a proper spineless bunch of players. Badly need to get rid of them.
By Bungie Go To PostYou lot playing the weekend league in fifa, where's my rewards? Do you have to finish all your games to get to get them or something? No one has time for that.
isnt it something crazy like 40 games in a weekend. 10 hrs of FIFA in a weekend is asking a lot of us.
By Esch Go To Postmickyteriyaki should have chosen arsenal, the soft lad's natural habitat.I would like to share the latter part of his fate.
his only fate is death now, and kebabs.
You can't say no.
By Laboured Go To PostDepressing reading on what's happening at United. Most of it has been mentioned before and most of it has been proven true.
http://www.theunitedpages.com/why-firemanmou/
One surprising tidbit is that Mkhi supposedly broke down and requested a transfer after being subbed off in the City game. Hope that's not true but could be.
I'm beginning to think we dodged a bullet. There's "soft" and there's...that.
By domino Go To Postisnt it something crazy like 40 games in a weekend. 10 hrs of FIFA in a weekend is asking a lot of us.
25 on pc which is still a lot for 2 days.
Do you know whether you need to play all of them to get the reward?
By Punished Go To PostWould be top if Mourinho didn't make it through the seasonno yen, stop it.
Besides we both know Mayo are the ultimate softlads/bottlers, no-one in PL comes close.
Tomorrows PL fixtures are garbage (no early kick-off) apart from Chelsea vs Everton and that's the evening game. Fuck life.
Can't it be Sunday already?
Can't it be Sunday already?
It's all very well saying that a lot of United's problems are not of Mourinho's making, but as several others have already pointed out, he had the opportunity to fix things and didn't. They spent more than 150mil in the summer, probably enough to bring in 8 or 9 quality players, but opted to spend almost all of it on Pogba.
By sohois Go To PostIt's all very well saying that a lot of United's problems are not of Mourinho's making, but as several others have already pointed out, he had the opportunity to fix things and didn't. They spent more than 150mil in the summer, probably enough to bring in 8 or 9 quality players, but opted to spend almost all of it on Pogba.We needed a big name for Dab University
Mourinho should take a gamble by starting to incorporate Fosu-Mensah, Tuanzebe and Williams into the first XI.
I'm willing to bet they would give everything for their team when given the chance. Bin those that don't and fast.
I'm willing to bet they would give everything for their team when given the chance. Bin those that don't and fast.
http://www.espnfc.com/blog/espn-fc-united-blog/68/post/2988240/benfica-take-top-spot-in-shaka-hislop-power-rankings-with-atletico-madrid-second
Did anyone expect a side from Portugal to top the Power Rankings? Well, it's happened this week. Remember the day.
1. Benfica (+2)
Two games, two wins, four goals scored, none conceded. It's been another good week for Benfica, who lead the Portuguese league by five points – they've dropped just two all season – and are in position to comfortably reach the round of 16 in the Champions League.
2. Atletico Madrid (+4)
They conceded as many goals – three – in the last week as in the 13 previous games they played this season, but thanks to the six they netted at the other end, Atletico recorded wins at home and in Europe. Antoine Griezmann scored two and set up two more.
3. Arsenal (+4)
Arsene Wenger's men were given a scare by Sunderland and Ludogorets but ultimately emerged victorious on both occasions. The highlight of a week in which Arsenal scored seven times was unquestionably Mesut Ozil's superb winning goal in Bulgaria.
4. Real Madrid (-3)
Zinedine Zidane's side had a mixed week, routing Alaves 4-1 in La Liga but needing a late, late Mateo Kovacic goal to grab a 3-3 draw at lowly Legia Warsaw in the Champions League. The latter result isn't a massive concern given Zidane's squad rotation, but it did suggest there are flaws in Los Blancos' star-studded squad.
5. Manchester City (new)
So much for "crisis" talk surrounding Pep Guardiola's side. They brushed off Guardiola's career-record six-game winless streak with two emphatic wins this past week, thrashing West Brom 4-0 at the weekend and then dominating Barcelona in a 3-1 victory at the Etihad on Tuesday night. It was only a matter of time until they returned to form, but nobody expected anything quite this emphatic. And Sergio Aguero is healthy again, too.
the pogba purchase didn't keep us from buying other players. jose clearly wanted to do more in the market but then the bankers came out of left field w/ that sell to buy mess acting like we were mysteriously out of money.
By Bungie Go To Post25 on pc which is still a lot for 2 days.
Do you know whether you need to play all of them to get the reward?
Eh, you only get 25 games to play on PC? That's....weird.
You don't need to play all of them, no. I haven't done it the past couple of weekends but I always got the rewards on the thursday following the weekend league
By Francis Go To Post
Playing 7 games in 23 days with all these injuries...I suppose it's understandable that the players look knackered. Sounds like Harry Winks may start on Sunday unless Dembele recovers.
I think you're underestimating the cost of a quality player, Sohois. Unless you get lucky ala United and Mkhitaryan* then the you're looking at 30-40m for proven players. Bailly cost 30m and he only had like 60 professional appearances. We could maybe have signed two very good players for what it cost to get Pogba but that's it I think.
*Micky has been crap but he is quality still.
*Micky has been crap but he is quality still.
Pogba is beginning to slow his class. Tbf it's not like he's been crap all the way through. Been v good here and there but not consistently so. Had a good run of games recently bar Chelsea.
Bailly is the standout though. Pure quality if a bit reckless.
Bailly is the standout though. Pure quality if a bit reckless.
By Ciaran Go To Postis it safe to say that only Bailly is delivering out of your galácticos?Yes, he's been fantastic up until his recent injury.
Ibrahimović started very well but has since dropped of a cliff. It's a similar situation with Pogba (although there are good signs).
Mkhitaryan hasn't been seen or heard of since China.
By inky Go To PostPogba was a decent purchase and not at all the problem.It's not about Pogba's quality on the field, but the opportunity cost that his buy caused. By paying that money for Pogba United were not able to sign 4 ~20mil players.
A team won't necessarily always benefit from signing several cheaper players, of course. To use the example of Juventus, they would not have been wise to spend Higuain's fee on 3 lesser players, since they had no room in their first XI. They just would have got 3 bench players who collectively contribute less than one star striker. But United don't have that kind of squad. They could have fit 4 players into their first XI quite easily, which means that for Pogba to have been worthwhile he needs to do more than those hypothetical 4. Maybe a Messi or Ronaldo really could do that but Pogba isn't that kind of player.
That's why teams normally leave off the super star signings until the rest of the squad is up to par. They should be the final piece of the puzzle, not the foundation.
By Cleff Go To PostI think you're underestimating the cost of a quality player, Sohois. Unless you get lucky ala United and Mkhitaryan* then the you're looking at 30-40m for proven players. Bailly cost 30m and he only had like 60 professional appearances. We could maybe have signed two very good players for what it cost to get Pogba but that's it I think.
*Micky has been crap but he is quality still.
You might well be right, but I think you could still get 3 players from Pogba's fee and wages who were already established, and more if you hunt around for bargains a bit more as Klopp and Poch have managed.
United were certainly a bit unfortunate that they seemed to target some far cheaper midfielders - Kante, Gundogan, Pjanic(?) - and missed out on all of them.
Still think all of our recent signings will probably come good (Bailly has for all intents and purposes) but there's been a massive mental crash throughout a lot of the team (caused by the City game in particular) that has seen them revert to LVG ball as a fall back instead of persisting with playing forward with any risk. Reverting to LVG ball has seen us once again get absolutely rinsed on the counter as we saw for the last 2 years.
By Ciaran Go To PostI feel like Kante would've had a bigger midfield impact than PogbaJosé tried to get him, called him and all, but in the end he chose Conte & Chelsea.
Wise choice.
By Francis Go To PostJosé tried to get him, called him and all, but in the end he chose Conte & Chelsea.and to back sohois
Wise choice.
Jose passed on Pjanic though, a world class CM for only 30 million euros (clause)
actually wait, you could've bought BOTH Higuain and Pjanic with Pogba's money, yeah! :lol
Kante refused United. Pjanic would've too and if he didn't it would be another Mata situation I think. If there's anything the team has is MF options, but they are not used correctly. Mou is set on playing 2 CMs, one of them a Fellaini-like character that runs and fights and throws elbows.
The reality is also not a lot of players want to go to United*, and there's no real recruitment plan to rebuild a team. A lot of people need to go first.
*And they certainly don't need more Memphis/Miki situations. Unreliable, weak characters more interested in buying Lambos and Bentleys than playing football.
The reality is also not a lot of players want to go to United*, and there's no real recruitment plan to rebuild a team. A lot of people need to go first.
*And they certainly don't need more Memphis/Miki situations. Unreliable, weak characters more interested in buying Lambos and Bentleys than playing football.
By Wedward Go To PostA man with firm beliefs in traditional values?Simply believing in something because it's tradition is a fallacy. Surely you know this bro.
Yeah, imagine.
By Ciaran Go To PostI feel like Kante would've had a bigger midfield impact than PogbaI don't think so.
Kante on his own would've given us a good box to box player who's also great at winning the ball back. Still wouldn't have helped going forward. We've now a problem where we've our best attacking option being asked to chip in defensively as well because we've no proper cover. Herrera has the same problem tbh. He's better in a more attacking role but being used as a harrier/shield because he's our best midfielder after Pogba.
Kante with Pogba would've been perfect.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostSimply believing in something because it's tradition is a fallacy. Surely you know this bro.
Im kidding.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1307639
Horse. We have to fight them. Grab the pitchfork.
Horse. We have to fight them. Grab the pitchfork.
Mkhi is my hero. While I thought there was a good chance of him showing his true soft body side, I never expected all this joy from United this season. Pogba and Zlatan to that quickly turn into Andy Carroll and Milner, is a huge surprise. While I absolutely hate Zlatan, I thought he would be able to score quite a lot against some of these shit defenders he plays against, but nope. I'm still fairly certain he will end up being remembered well at United though. Pogba as well, even with the silly price tag for a dabbing Milner. But hey, Milner is good too.