By shun Go To Postremember how we had this Carlisle vs Rivers debate last season? Like 3SP or someone brought it up that Doc was good and Carlisle is the same tier as him or something. Yeah Carlisle can actually get garbage dudes and washed up dudes to ball and win games. I can't really say the same with Rivers.Dunno if it was 3sp ... but yeah ... doc ain't done shit in a whole. And his tenure as GM is ... questionable at best.
By DY_nasty Go To Postyou just don't say that kinda shit out loudI told you... but you were if that's where he needs to find his motivation and blah...
Look KD is the type of guy to make a video and post it with it captions of him bricking 3s
I like that he's getting all this in before anybody in the media's said any of this stuff yet. It's good that he's proactive.
By DY_nasty Go To PostYNB sending texts apparently
Beta getting all sorts of feels now.
"It's only a surprise if you didn't watch the workouts," Thompson said following Thursday's practice before heading to Toronto. "If you ask ownership and coach (Byron) Scott and CG (Former GM Chris Grant) and even Griff (General Manager David Griffin), if you watched the workouts, there's some other guys in that workout that probably shouldn't have went in the pick they went, but, we won't get into that. It was not a surprise."
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/243797/Tristan-Thompson-Wasnt-Surprised-By-Being-Drafted-Ahead-Of-Valanciunas
Somewhere, Derrick Williams clenches his fist and looks up into the Miami sky. And in a voice, too low to hear yet quaking with a quiet fury, he swears: "There will be a reckoning. Oh yes. And there will be blood."
The sound of his clanked layup echoes into that night sky, like the roll of thunder.
By DY_nasty Go To Postdude what
Simmons is impressive as fuck. Pop is next-gen. Spurs are next-gen.
Timmy come back for this season during the play-offs, he deserves it.
Timmy come back for this season during the play-offs, he deserves it.
only took 1 game for me to go to nbadraft.net tbh
fuck I miss tanking and the hope of something better
fuck I miss tanking and the hope of something better
By Dark PhaZe Go To Postonly took 1 game for me to go to nbadraft.net tbh
fuck I miss tanking and the hope of something better
Do yourself a favour and never look up Colangelo's draft record in Toronto.
I hope the league has evolved enough one day to force owners to fire GM's for basketball reasons and for "the good of our league".
So KD yelling to himself with self motivational slights by the media during a late shoot around now
Gondo get ya mans
Gondo get ya mans
By Dark PhaZe Go To PostI hope the league has evolved enough one day to force owners to fire GM's for basketball reasons and for "the good of our league".we can't disband the knicks phaze
Greg Oden has returned to Ohio State as a student-coach.Blazers Legend.
Oden played in China last season after dealing with a number of injuries in the NBA. Oden underwent multiple microfracture knee surgeries and other issues. Oden last played in the NBA during the 13-14 season with the Miami Heat.
"I wanted to stay around basketball and coach gave me a lifeline to be here," Oden told the Indianapolis Star on Thursday. "To give me something to do with my afternoons.
"I'm still trying to figure out my life. Since I've been in fourth grade, all I've known was basketball. I'm just trying to better myself and work on my degree and set something up for the future of my family."
Oden is now 28 and acknowledges his playing career is over.
"I wish," Oden told the Star. "It's over."
Oden was the first overall pick in the 2007 NBA Draft, leaving Ohio State after his freshman season. Oden is now a sophomore in college and majoring in the sports industry.
"I wouldn't say I regret anything," Oden said. "I would say I just wish I did things better."
Actually, you know what? Maybe I'm being unfair. Colangelo's really dumb moves were his free agent signings, not his drafting: throwing all the money they had at human pylon Jason Kapono, busted pizza-fiend Hedo, and his desperation hail mary of paying a billion dollars in a poison pill contract to Landry Fields to cockblock Steve Nash from signing with a Knicks team he was never going to in the first place.
He also has a history of wildly misjudging vets in trades: moving Jason Kidd for Stephon Marbury*, cleaning out the fridge and trading Roy Hibbert** for basketball mirage Jermaine O'Neal who advanced stats showed wasn't as good as people thought even before the injuries. He then sunk deeper into a hole by trading JO + a lotto pick for 27 games of Shawn Marion. He then somehow decided trading for Rudy Gay was the last-ditch move that was going to save his career.
His draft record is spotty because it starts with the worst draft pick of all time, the franchise-devouring Andrea Bargnani. But in that same draft he got PJ Tucker in the 2nd round, who was a reasonable return.
After that he got DeRozan with the 9th pick
Journeyman Ed Davis at 13,
Valanciunas at 5
Future journeyman Terrence Ross at 8,
And yes-he's-still-in-the-league Quincy Acy at 37.
So most of his picks at least turn into players, he just never managed to build them into a solid, sustainable core. If he didn't inherit Chris Bosh he never would have sniffed the playoffs here.
He does have an eye for fringe talent, he brought lots of players from overseas leagues and US minor leagues onto the team who lasted for a couple of years in the NBA, but they were almost never starters, certainly not stars (all respect to Anthony Parker). But if you want to land the next Jamario Moon or "win" a Fred Jones trade, he's your man.
* Though this one was kind of defensible at the time; nobody knew just how much Marbury's 3-tub-a-day vaseline habit was going to affect his mental faculties, and he was the 1A PG in the league after Kidd, and therefore the most reasonable trade target. They probably saw in him an Iverson who would pass. They were super wrong.
** Granted, it was Indy who asked him to draft Hibbert. This does not make the move any less dumb. It probably makes it even more dumb, because they were that much further ahead of him.
He also has a history of wildly misjudging vets in trades: moving Jason Kidd for Stephon Marbury*, cleaning out the fridge and trading Roy Hibbert** for basketball mirage Jermaine O'Neal who advanced stats showed wasn't as good as people thought even before the injuries. He then sunk deeper into a hole by trading JO + a lotto pick for 27 games of Shawn Marion. He then somehow decided trading for Rudy Gay was the last-ditch move that was going to save his career.
His draft record is spotty because it starts with the worst draft pick of all time, the franchise-devouring Andrea Bargnani. But in that same draft he got PJ Tucker in the 2nd round, who was a reasonable return.
After that he got DeRozan with the 9th pick
Journeyman Ed Davis at 13,
Valanciunas at 5
Future journeyman Terrence Ross at 8,
And yes-he's-still-in-the-league Quincy Acy at 37.
So most of his picks at least turn into players, he just never managed to build them into a solid, sustainable core. If he didn't inherit Chris Bosh he never would have sniffed the playoffs here.
He does have an eye for fringe talent, he brought lots of players from overseas leagues and US minor leagues onto the team who lasted for a couple of years in the NBA, but they were almost never starters, certainly not stars (all respect to Anthony Parker). But if you want to land the next Jamario Moon or "win" a Fred Jones trade, he's your man.
* Though this one was kind of defensible at the time; nobody knew just how much Marbury's 3-tub-a-day vaseline habit was going to affect his mental faculties, and he was the 1A PG in the league after Kidd, and therefore the most reasonable trade target. They probably saw in him an Iverson who would pass. They were super wrong.
** Granted, it was Indy who asked him to draft Hibbert. This does not make the move any less dumb. It probably makes it even more dumb, because they were that much further ahead of him.
By Smokey Go To PostSo KD yelling to himself with self motivational slights by the media during a late shoot around nowI think he's going through some stressful shit in his personal life. Most likely explanation.
Gondo get ya mans
Wonder if he did this same kind of stuff in OKC but our PR guys just kept a lid on it?
By KingGondo Go To PostI think he's going through some stressful shit in his personal life. Most likely explanation.
Wonder if he did this same kind of stuff in OKC but our PR guys just kept a lid on it?
clearly
By DY_nasty Go To Post
jesus fuck
Is it bad that I didn't even watch that video of KD because by you guys' descriptions it was clearly too pathetic to watch?
By ratcliffja Go To PostI had no idea we got Mo Speights in the offseason. Probably our best bench pickup in years.
looks like he took his GSW powerup straight to the clips
if all break wells...this might be yalls year for real
By Dark PhaZe Go To Postlooks like he took his GSW powerup straight to the clipsI want Chris Paul to win a ring so damn bad. It would be a bonus if Rivers got a ring, too. Don't care about anyone else on that team, though.
if all break wells…this might be yalls year for real
By Dark PhaZe Go To Postlooks like he took his GSW powerup straight to the clipsThey'll be underdogs to even reach the WCF barring catastrophic injuries to the Spurs/Warriors.
if all break wells…this might be yalls year for real
By KingGondo Go To PostThey'll be underdogs to even reach the WCF barring catastrophic injuries to the Spurs/Warriors.
You can't say anything about what the Spurs will do in the post season until we see it happen. We just know they are a good team, but last years team went out a little too easy for my tastes
By Kibner Go To PostI want Chris Paul to win a ring so damn bad. It would be a bonus if Rivers got a ring, too.
By MyBackIsBroken Go To Postwizards realgm is pretty depressed after losing to atlanta.This is going to happen.
When I was a kid, I always felt bad for Gargamel and wanted him to get to eat some smurfs, at least once.
That's kind of how I feel about Chris Paul.
That's kind of how I feel about Chris Paul.
chris will get one more chance to ring chase in a year or whatever
wonder what the best fit will be...probably spurs
wonder what the best fit will be...probably spurs
By livefromkyoto Go To Post* Though this one was kind of defensible at the time; nobody knew just how much Marbury's 3-tub-a-day vaseline habit was going to affect his mental faculties, and he was the 1A PG in the league after Kidd, and therefore the most reasonable trade target. They probably saw in him an Iverson who would pass. They were super wrong.The owner wanted Kidd gone because of the whole wife-beating thing... so he had a limited window and limited leverage... just tbf
By DY_nasty Go To PostTrust me when I say my opinion is also in the minority even among other online Pelican fans. There is a ton of vitriol directed towards CP3 the person at some of the homer boards and it makes me angry to read. So, I don't really go to the homer boards anymore and just stick to general NBA discussion boards (like this one), instead.
By blackace Go To PostThe owner wanted Kidd gone because of the whole wife-beating thing… so he had a limited window and limited leverage… just tbf
Sure, but given how high Marbury's profile was at the time, it shows they were capable of getting a high return on the trade. What they got obviously didn't pan out.