By DY_nastyGeez, sucks what's happening to Mirza. Seemed like a good guy.The thing that really bothers me about Mirza's situation is that he paid for his own 2 million Euro buyout to come play for us in 2012. We then verbally agreed to give him $15.6 million over three years, but we later went back on our word and persuaded him to take $9 million so that we could fit him into the mini-MLE. Our coaches treated him like shit in the first year and literally told him he would never be an NBA player. Then he flourished under Kidd and looked ready to earn a nice payday.
This was the last year of his contract with us. Even if he manages to return, which might not happen, he's still fucked for his next contract.
He's still a millionaire but it just sucks because he is a good guy and didn't deserve this at all.
By ForeverNBA teams as videogame characters.The Clippers as Kirby? Great! So we... suck... well crap.
Edit: 15/32 are playable Smash characters, with a 16th as an assist trophy.
By VahagnThe Lakers have won one game this season without Kobe. One game. A fluke of a game at that.A 15 footer isn't a long 2 though. I get your point but I don't think Knux was arguing that a Sixer taking a contested 3 is better than an open mid range shot. it's those shots just inside of the three point line are terrible. Same with foot on the line 2s.
People who are serious and not trolling about Lakers tanking being ruined with Kobe out are lulz.By knux-futureYes…we need actual guards that don't fail at shooting and finishing.
Our system can be effective. Shots at the rim are the best shots you can get and 3s are far better than long 2s….however you need the dudes capable of either getting to the rim and finishing or capable to get open shots and make them…Even better if there is multiple guys who can do both.
Right now we have Wroten who can get to the rim at will but he can't finish consistently and then there is MCW who can also get to the rim at a nice clip but can't finish for shit and can't foul shots to save his life and thus he either avoids contact (making the layup harder) or jacks up long twos like a ho. Everyone else can't dribble the goddam basketball or shoot…or both.
You get a guy who can get to and finish at the rim and surround him with shooters you have a very basic and yet hard to stop system…especially if those shooters can take dudes off the bounce once chased off the line.
Also worth noting that our bigs are hot fire garbage ultimax.
Any system can look like shit…when you have shit players
Ffs, no. Open shots that are strengths of an individual are better than contested shots that aren't. Period. That's basketball. Tony Allen shooting a contested 3 is not a better shot than Marc Gasol shooting an open 15 footer. Ever. Houston is mediocre as shit despite having tons of good 3 point shooters and 2 of the most unstoppable players at their position precisely because they give up open shots to take contested ones. Without Harden's FT gimmick that team would be among the worst teams in the league if all his misses around the rim weren't bailed out.
The key is to shoot a high%, and you shoot a high % when you take open shots that are a strength of your player/team. Trading open 2's for contested 3's is bullshit. Yes, standing behind the line instead of on the line is smart. But what Houston and Philly do isn't smart.
Washington shoots 22 more mid range shots a game than Houston. They have a higher ORTG
Memphis shoots 15 more mid range shots a game than Houston. They have a higher ORTG
Houston is middle of the pack in ORTG, and all 14 teams a head of them shoot more mid range shots. LAL is a much worse team talent wise and shoots 22 more Mid range shots, and its only 1.5 ORTG worse than Houston.
That's not the holy grail.
Interesting trade acquisition for the blazers: Wilson Chandler.
Though i like him on Memphis more, he'd be a great cover for Batum.
Though i like him on Memphis more, he'd be a great cover for Batum.
By chandlerparsonsIt's a home game. I expected the Suns to win anyway.@Jonathan_FeigenHave fun, giririsss.
Rockets added James Harden to the injury report with a bruised left knee. He's probable to play vs. Suns tonight.
Yeah contested 3s are obviously bad shots and I don't mind the open 15ft jumpers it's just when you settle for them that I have an issue with. If the open 15 fter is the best shot, then you take it...however often it isn't and it isn't as open as people think. It's the 20 ft jumpers off the bounce I hate...you might as well take a few steps back and get an extra point, no?
well fuck.
More MCW and Turnover Jesus.
swell
By diehardWroten torn ACL, out for the season.
well fuck.
More MCW and Turnover Jesus.
swell
By VahagnWhy all of the Mike Malone love?
Because he's a good coach. That is a rare thing in the NBA.
Most three point shooting heavy teams:
Top 10
Rockets (12th in offense)
Clippers (1st)
Blazers (11th)
Hawks (7th)
Suns (5th)
Mavericks (2nd)
Warriors (4th)
Raptors (3rd)
Pistons (22nd)
Cavaliers (6th)
And now let's go bottom 10:
Timberwolves (26th in offense)
Grizzlies (10th in offense)
Wizards (15th in offense)
Kings (14th in offense)
Hornets (28th in offense)
Lakers (19th in offense)
Pelicans (9th in offense)
Bucks (23rd in offense)
Magic (27th in offense)
Pacers (29th in offense)
So, you can not shoot threes and be fine offensively if you have Anthony Davis, Marc Gasol, or DeMarcus Cousins or any other all-pro big man who can do everything other than shooting threes on offense. Otherwise, not so much.
Top 10
Rockets (12th in offense)
Clippers (1st)
Blazers (11th)
Hawks (7th)
Suns (5th)
Mavericks (2nd)
Warriors (4th)
Raptors (3rd)
Pistons (22nd)
Cavaliers (6th)
And now let's go bottom 10:
Timberwolves (26th in offense)
Grizzlies (10th in offense)
Wizards (15th in offense)
Kings (14th in offense)
Hornets (28th in offense)
Lakers (19th in offense)
Pelicans (9th in offense)
Bucks (23rd in offense)
Magic (27th in offense)
Pacers (29th in offense)
So, you can not shoot threes and be fine offensively if you have Anthony Davis, Marc Gasol, or DeMarcus Cousins or any other all-pro big man who can do everything other than shooting threes on offense. Otherwise, not so much.
By psychintellectA 15 footer isn't a long 2 though. I get your point but I don't think Knux was arguing that a Sixer taking a contested 3 is better than an open mid range shot. it's those shots just inside of the three point line are terrible. Same with foot on the line 2s.
By VahagnYes, standing behind the line instead of on the line is smart.
Yea, people have been complaining about Fisher's foot on the line nonsense for years. But my point is that a system isn't a good system just because it prioritizes 3's over 2's or rim shots over mid range. That's the simplistic new age basketball philosophy. It's practically a non-factor.
There are playoff teams in the bottom 10, the middle 10, and the top 10 in all FGA per game categories. What's far more important if FG%. If you replaced Harden with a guy who did everything exactly the same but got to the foul line 6 times instead of 10 times and shot 80% instead of 90% - they'd be a bottom 5 ORTG.
That system is a gimmick, and it's bad basketball. And Philly is doing it's best impersonation, except without Harden, and they're predictably ass.
By VahagnBy psychintellectA 15 footer isn't a long 2 though. I get your point but I don't think Knux was arguing that a Sixer taking a contested 3 is better than an open mid range shot. it's those shots just inside of the three point line are terrible. Same with foot on the line 2s.By VahagnYes, standing behind the line instead of on the line is smart.
Yea, people have been complaining about Fisher's foot on the line nonsense for years. But my point is that a system isn't a good system just because it prioritizes 3's over 2's or rim shots over mid range. That's the simplistic new age basketball philosophy. It's practically a non-factor.
There are playoff teams in the bottom 10, the middle 10, and the top 10 in all FGA per game categories. What's far more important if FG%. If you replaced Harden with a guy who did everything exactly the same but got to the foul line 6 times instead of 10 times and shot 80% instead of 90% - they'd be a bottom 5 ORTG.
That system is a gimmick, and it's bad basketball. And Philly is doing it's best impersonation, except without Harden, and they're predictably ass.
The 76ers are 11th in three point rate.
MCW shoots 23% from midrange and takes a ton of them.
They take a ton of shots at the rim because none of their players can shoot, not philosophy. All of their wing players are converted PFs who can't shoot other than Robert Covington.
If you take away Michael Jordan from the Triangle and replace him with Carmelo or Al Jefferson, it's the worst offensive system in the league.
By knux-futureYeah contested 3s are obviously bad shots and I don't mind the open 15ft jumpers it's just when you settle for them that I have an issue with. If the open 15 fter is the best shot, then you take it…however often it isn't and it isn't as open as people think. It's the 20 ft jumpers off the bounce I hate…you might as well take a few steps back and get an extra point, no?Wait I thought MCW was Turnover Jesus. Who is?By diehardWroten torn ACL, out for the season.
well fuck.
More MCW and Turnover Jesus.
swell
The Warriors are easily first in both pace and defense this year.
That's pretty cool. I want to see a real study between pace and defense that controls for player defensive quality.
Second in defense is... The Atlanta Hawks... Led by Paul Millsap defensively.
Remember when Millsap should come off the bench because he couldn't defend? Remember when Bogut and Green were meh picks because they couldn't defend?
Larry Drew's son.
That's pretty cool. I want to see a real study between pace and defense that controls for player defensive quality.
Second in defense is... The Atlanta Hawks... Led by Paul Millsap defensively.
Remember when Millsap should come off the bench because he couldn't defend? Remember when Bogut and Green were meh picks because they couldn't defend?
By ratcliffjaBy knux-futureYeah contested 3s are obviously bad shots and I don't mind the open 15ft jumpers it's just when you settle for them that I have an issue with. If the open 15 fter is the best shot, then you take it…however often it isn't and it isn't as open as people think. It's the 20 ft jumpers off the bounce I hate…you might as well take a few steps back and get an extra point, no?Wait I thought MCW was Turnover Jesus. Who is?By diehardWroten torn ACL, out for the season.
well fuck.
More MCW and Turnover Jesus.
swell
Larry Drew's son.
By IWMTB19The Warriors are easily first in both pace and defense this year.My problem with millsap and why i think he's a, first big off the bench, guy is he's under sized. Not that he can't defend.
That's pretty cool. I want to see a real study between pace and defense that controls for player defensive quality.
Second in defense is… The Atlanta Hawks… Led by Paul Millsap defensively.
Remember when Millsap should come off the bench because he couldn't defend? Remember when Bogut and Green were meh picks because they couldn't defend?By ratcliffjaBy knux-futureYeah contested 3s are obviously bad shots and I don't mind the open 15ft jumpers it's just when you settle for them that I have an issue with. If the open 15 fter is the best shot, then you take it…however often it isn't and it isn't as open as people think. It's the 20 ft jumpers off the bounce I hate…you might as well take a few steps back and get an extra point, no?Wait I thought MCW was Turnover Jesus. Who is?By diehardWroten torn ACL, out for the season.
well fuck.
More MCW and Turnover Jesus.
swell
Larry Drew's son.
By IWMTB19Most three point shooting heavy teams:
Top 10
Rockets (12th in offense)
Clippers (1st)
Blazers (11th)
Hawks (7th)
Suns (5th)
Mavericks (2nd)
Warriors (4th)
Raptors (3rd)
Pistons (22nd)
Cavaliers (6th)
And now let's go bottom 10:
Timberwolves (26th in offense)
Grizzlies (10th in offense)
Wizards (15th in offense)
Kings (14th in offense)
Hornets (28th in offense)
Lakers (19th in offense)
Pelicans (9th in offense)
Bucks (23rd in offense)
Magic (27th in offense)
Pacers (29th in offense)
So, you can not shoot threes and be fine offensively if you have Anthony Davis, Marc Gasol, or DeMarcus Cousins or any other all-pro big man who can do everything other than shooting threes on offense. Otherwise, not so much.
uh,
Top 10 Mid Range FG%
Golden State (34-6)
Atlanta (35-8)
Dallas (30-13)
Clippers (29-14)
Pelicans (21-21)
Cavaliers (23-20)
Miami (18-24)
Phoenix (26-18)
Boston (14-26)
Memphis (30-12)
260-162
Bottom 10 Mid Range FG%
Philly (8-34)
Houston (29-14)
Minny (7-34)
Utah (15-28)
Detroit (17-26)
Lakers (12-31)
Raptors (27-15)
Spurs (27-17)
Nuggets (18-24)
Pacers (15-29)
175-252
You can divide things a bunch of different ways to push an agenda. In fact, the only team that wasn't top 10 in mid range FG% and on your list and was top 10 offensive rating was TOR. Houston/Det/Por are all out of the top 10 in ORTG and they're not top 10 mid range shooters.
Your triangle comment is just lulz, and not worthy of a response.
a key to a good system is to have good players to run it.
we don't have that and thus it looks fucking awful.
Houston has Harden which makes it look very functional..but Dwight's mechanical ass post moves and the fact that no one else can really create shots off the bounce and finish outside of Harden..means it still isn't complete.
besides it's not the Rockets we will be emulating...it's the Spurs
For the Paint and Pace system to work you need two ballhandlers, a post up big with a solid shot, and shitton of shooters. The Spurs have this as Parker and Ginobli can get their own shots and create havoc off the bounce to get help d to help off of shooters or let them eat. They have Duncan who can pick and pop or still go to work down low...again drawing help d. Green, Kwaii, Mills, Ginobli, Bonner, and Parker to an extent all are dangerous from 3...so it is a pick your poison type system. The Hawks are also running this (I still think they might lack the second ballhandler outside of Teague..but Mack and Schoeder are capable).
It isn't JUST jack all the 3s or throw yourself at the rim...the whole idea is to force the defense to either stay home while the ballhandler gets to the rim or leave open shooters all day. It can also be just a post scorer going to work. It's all about getting the defense off balance and force them to make choices that will hopefully always benefit the offense.
We just lack the pieces to run it but are "trying" to anyway because tank reasons...I'd argue that MCW going out of the ideal and taking long twos are his biggest flaw. Just because you are open doesn't always make it a good shot...as once you get inside the line it is a lot easier to recover and contest (thus making it a contested jumper) and it is always there. It is a lazy shot that you can get any time. The phrase is don't take the first good shot you get but to look for the better shot.
Houston's version of this doesn't work great all the time because Harden is the main threat off the bounce and with Dwight the key to beating his teams has always been let him try to beat you on his own as he just isn't efficient or consistant enough to do so.
And as with anything your mileage may vary and it always comes down to the talent you have...no system is perfect.
we don't have that and thus it looks fucking awful.
Houston has Harden which makes it look very functional..but Dwight's mechanical ass post moves and the fact that no one else can really create shots off the bounce and finish outside of Harden..means it still isn't complete.
besides it's not the Rockets we will be emulating...it's the Spurs
For the Paint and Pace system to work you need two ballhandlers, a post up big with a solid shot, and shitton of shooters. The Spurs have this as Parker and Ginobli can get their own shots and create havoc off the bounce to get help d to help off of shooters or let them eat. They have Duncan who can pick and pop or still go to work down low...again drawing help d. Green, Kwaii, Mills, Ginobli, Bonner, and Parker to an extent all are dangerous from 3...so it is a pick your poison type system. The Hawks are also running this (I still think they might lack the second ballhandler outside of Teague..but Mack and Schoeder are capable).
It isn't JUST jack all the 3s or throw yourself at the rim...the whole idea is to force the defense to either stay home while the ballhandler gets to the rim or leave open shooters all day. It can also be just a post scorer going to work. It's all about getting the defense off balance and force them to make choices that will hopefully always benefit the offense.
We just lack the pieces to run it but are "trying" to anyway because tank reasons...I'd argue that MCW going out of the ideal and taking long twos are his biggest flaw. Just because you are open doesn't always make it a good shot...as once you get inside the line it is a lot easier to recover and contest (thus making it a contested jumper) and it is always there. It is a lazy shot that you can get any time. The phrase is don't take the first good shot you get but to look for the better shot.
Houston's version of this doesn't work great all the time because Harden is the main threat off the bounce and with Dwight the key to beating his teams has always been let him try to beat you on his own as he just isn't efficient or consistant enough to do so.
And as with anything your mileage may vary and it always comes down to the talent you have...no system is perfect.
...But the Warriors never take midrange jumpers.
Millsap is the best player on a team that is going to make the Finals and is top ten in RPM.
He's not a bench player.
...And what does being undersized even mean if he's really good on defense and in the paint? How does it affect him? Blake Griffin is undersized as fuck, but it doesn't matter.
By giririsssBy IWMTB19The Warriors are easily first in both pace and defense this year.My problem with millsap and why i think he's a, first big off the bench, guy is he's under sized. Not that he can't defend.
That's pretty cool. I want to see a real study between pace and defense that controls for player defensive quality.
Second in defense is… The Atlanta Hawks… Led by Paul Millsap defensively.
Remember when Millsap should come off the bench because he couldn't defend? Remember when Bogut and Green were meh picks because they couldn't defend?By ratcliffjaBy knux-futureYeah contested 3s are obviously bad shots and I don't mind the open 15ft jumpers it's just when you settle for them that I have an issue with. If the open 15 fter is the best shot, then you take it…however often it isn't and it isn't as open as people think. It's the 20 ft jumpers off the bounce I hate…you might as well take a few steps back and get an extra point, no?Wait I thought MCW was Turnover Jesus. Who is?By diehardWroten torn ACL, out for the season.
well fuck.
More MCW and Turnover Jesus.
swell
Larry Drew's son.
Millsap is the best player on a team that is going to make the Finals and is top ten in RPM.
He's not a bench player.
...And what does being undersized even mean if he's really good on defense and in the paint? How does it affect him? Blake Griffin is undersized as fuck, but it doesn't matter.
A comparison of the teams most reliant on the 3 point shot and their offensive ratings give a far better picture than teams FG% from anywhere and their record when it comes to arguing analytics.
Korver is actually ahead of Millsap in RPM.
Korver is actually ahead of Millsap in RPM.
By IWMTB19…But the Warriors never take midrange jumpers
Shoot 11 more than Houston. More than Philly, Detroit, Atlanta, Cleveland, Toronto and Utah.
The Clippers shoot more mid range shots than all but 7 NBA teams.
Knux,
Every offense EVER is about
getting the defense off balance and force them to make choices that will hopefully always benefit the offense.
The Spurs ran intricate ass series of offensive sequences. Comparing that to what Houston does is basically a rookie mistake. Your team will never be the Spurs, Atlanta isn't even the Spurs. Heck, the Spurs this year aren't even the Spurs from last year. That's probably due to Kawhi and Tony being out more than anything else though.
By VahagnBy IWMTB19…But the Warriors never take midrange jumpers
Shoot 11 more than Houston. More than Philly, Detroit, Atlanta, Cleveland, Toronto and Utah.
The Clippers shoot more mid range shots than all but 7 NBA teams.
The Warriors play at easily the fastest pace in the NBA, come on, man.
By IWMTB19By VahagnBy IWMTB19…But the Warriors never take midrange jumpers
Shoot 11 more than Houston. More than Philly, Detroit, Atlanta, Cleveland, Toronto and Utah.
The Clippers shoot more mid range shots than all but 7 NBA teams.
The Warriors play at easily the fastest pace in the NBA, come on, man.
And shoot about 8th most 3 point shots and 8th most mid range shots. Your argument would hold weight if they were far and away the most 3 point shots so that their mid range shots were negligible. Except that's not the case, like at all.
By VahagnWhat?By IWMTB19By VahagnBy IWMTB19…But the Warriors never take midrange jumpers
Shoot 11 more than Houston. More than Philly, Detroit, Atlanta, Cleveland, Toronto and Utah.
The Clippers shoot more mid range shots than all but 7 NBA teams.
The Warriors play at easily the fastest pace in the NBA, come on, man.
And shoot about 8th most 3 point shots and 8th most mid range shots. Your argument would hold weight if they were far and away the most 3 point shots so that their mid range shots were negligible. Except that's not the case, like at all.
No, the Warriors shoot the 8th least amount of mid-range shots. Adjusted for pace they would be like 5th.. at the very worst. (best?)
By diehardBy VahagnWhat?By IWMTB19By VahagnBy IWMTB19…But the Warriors never take midrange jumpers
Shoot 11 more than Houston. More than Philly, Detroit, Atlanta, Cleveland, Toronto and Utah.
The Clippers shoot more mid range shots than all but 7 NBA teams.
The Warriors play at easily the fastest pace in the NBA, come on, man.
And shoot about 8th most 3 point shots and 8th least mid range shots. Your argument would hold weight if they were far and away the most 3 point shots so that their mid range shots were negligible. Except that's not the case, like at all.
No, the Warriors shoot the 8th least amount of mid-range shots. Adjusted for pace they would be like 5th.. at the very worst. (best?)
My bad, typo. I broke it down in the post quoted. It's the same argument though. They don't far and away lead the league in the 3 point shot. So if you're going to adjust for pace, the mid range shot goes down to the 5th fewest, and the 3 point shot goes down to like the 11th most.
But look, the Clippers take tons of mid range shots and have the highest ORTG. The Sixers and Rockets take the fewest mid range shots, and have bad/mediocre ORTG.
You can shoot 20-25 mid range shots a game and have a good offense and a good team. The name of the game isn't to lower that shot at all costs - the name of the game is efficiency from each area.
So passing up an open 15 footer from a competent jump shooter to shoot a contested 3 is bad offense. A good offense is far more complicated than that, a good offense is unpredictably with tons of counters and variations built in that plays to the players strengths. It's not as simple as shoot less 2's shoot more 3's.
%PTS from midrange
1. Knicks (big fucking shocker)
2. Wizards
3. Hornets
4. Lakers
5. Pacers
6. Timberwolves
7. Clippers
8. Blazers
9. Heat
10. Celtics
One amazing offensive team that has CP3 shooting midrange jumpers, two average offensive teams, then a bunch of shit offensively.
%PTS from midrange
30. Houston
29. Philly
28. Pistons
27. Raptors
26. Jazz
25. Hawks
24. Spurs
23. Cavaliers
22. Nuggets
21. Warriors
The Hawks %PTS from midrange is nearly as low as the 76ers. And this doesn't account for teams that just suck at making midrange jumpers, but % of shots from midrange doesn't seem to be on NBA.com.
1. Knicks (big fucking shocker)
2. Wizards
3. Hornets
4. Lakers
5. Pacers
6. Timberwolves
7. Clippers
8. Blazers
9. Heat
10. Celtics
One amazing offensive team that has CP3 shooting midrange jumpers, two average offensive teams, then a bunch of shit offensively.
%PTS from midrange
30. Houston
29. Philly
28. Pistons
27. Raptors
26. Jazz
25. Hawks
24. Spurs
23. Cavaliers
22. Nuggets
21. Warriors
The Hawks %PTS from midrange is nearly as low as the 76ers. And this doesn't account for teams that just suck at making midrange jumpers, but % of shots from midrange doesn't seem to be on NBA.com.
Are people saying you have to lower that shot at all costs? I'm pretty sure they are saying taking a 3 is preferable to a long 2 of similar quality. The Clippers take lots of mid-range jumpers because CP is really good at them, and Blake doesn't have 3 point range.
% of shots from three point range:
1. Houston
2. LAC
3. Portland
4. Atlanta
5. Phoenix
6. Dallas
7. Golden State
8. Toronto
9. Detroit
10. Cleveland
...All of these teams are good other than Detroit. If LeBron's athleticism is back, all of them are really good other than Detroit.
1. Houston
2. LAC
3. Portland
4. Atlanta
5. Phoenix
6. Dallas
7. Golden State
8. Toronto
9. Detroit
10. Cleveland
...All of these teams are good other than Detroit. If LeBron's athleticism is back, all of them are really good other than Detroit.
By IWMTB19%PTS from midrange
1. Knicks (big fucking shocker)
2. Wizards
3. Hornets
4. Lakers
5. Pacers
6. Timberwolves
7. Clippers
8. Blazers
9. Heat
10. Celtics
One amazing offensive team that has CP3 shooting midrange jumpers, two average offensive teams, then a bunch of shit offensively.
%PTS from midrange
30. Houston
29. Philly
28. Pistons
27. Raptors
26. Jazz
25. Hawks
24. Spurs
23. Cavaliers
22. Nuggets
21. Warriors
The Hawks %PTS from midrange is nearly as low as the 76ers. And this doesn't account for teams that just suck at making midrange jumpers, but % of shots from midrange doesn't seem to be on NBA.com.
Lakers shot fewer mid range shots in 2009 than they do today. It's got nothing to do with the Triangle. and %PTS DOES account for teams that suck, because points means scores. That's why FGA and FG% are better measures.
By IWMTB19Rondo hasn't made a free throw in 2015, half man, half amazing.I don't really even hate on the guy anymore, im just intrigued but what an anomaly he is.
Wait, he went to what was probably the best offense in the NBA and is putting up a 93 ORTG? WHAT THE FUCK
I TOLD YALL SOOO MANY TIMES
By giririsssMy problem with millsap and why i think he's a, first big off the bench, guy is he's under sized. Not that he can't defend.
Horford is undersized as well and the Hawks still have great defensive stats.
Millsap has incredible hands and is top 15 in steals per game, a defensive category dominated by guards.
By diehardI don't really even hate on the guy anymore, im just intrigued but what an anomaly he is.
Wait, he went to what was probably the best offense in the NBA and is putting up a 93 ORTG? WHAT THE FUCK
I TOLD YALL SOOO MANY TIMES
Yet in the 16 games since they traded for him, the Mavs are 6th in D rating and 7th in O rating. I believe he's still a plus player.
Shumpert is supposed to play tonight.
Will be interesting to see if he ends up taking over the starting spot from JR at some point. I think as long as the team continues rolling, Blatt should keep JR in the lineup. He is probably motivated to keep the spot since he's been a sixth man for so long.
Will be interesting to see if he ends up taking over the starting spot from JR at some point. I think as long as the team continues rolling, Blatt should keep JR in the lineup. He is probably motivated to keep the spot since he's been a sixth man for so long.
By IWMTB19% of shots from three point range:
1. Houston
2. LAC
3. Portland
4. Atlanta
5. Phoenix
6. Dallas
7. Golden State
8. Toronto
9. Detroit
10. Cleveland
…All of these teams are good other than Detroit. If LeBron's athleticism is back, all of them are really good other than Detroit.
I still can't accept the Clippers as really good this year. Also, Detroit's gotten a ton better after getting rid of Smith. They'll likely make the playoffs. And man, the start to this Sixers-Raptors game is something else.
By HasphatsAntsYet in the 16 games since they traded for him, the Mavs are 6th in D rating and 7th in O rating. I believe he's still a plus player.Without Rondo they had a net Rtg of 8.7, with him an Rtg of 5.2.
So far he has been the very definition of a minus player.
By ratcliffjaAnd man, the start to this Sixers-Raptors game is something else.
I don't even know what's happening.
By livefromkyotoSomehow Robert Covington is dominating the game. Noel has been pretty rough this year, hasn't he?By ratcliffjaAnd man, the start to this Sixers-Raptors game is something else.
I don't even know what's happening.
Edit: Covington's got 14 points on 5/6 shooting so far including 4/5 from 3. Holy crap.
By ratcliffjaBy livefromkyotoSomehow Robert Covington is dominating the game. Noel has been pretty rough this year, hasn't he?By ratcliffjaAnd man, the start to this Sixers-Raptors game is something else.
I don't even know what's happening.
Edit: Covington's got 14 points on 5/6 shooting so far including 4/5 from 3. Holy crap.
That's why I don't even know what's happening. I've never heard of this dude before, he was undrafted and spent almost all of last season in the d-league?
By livefromkyotoBy ratcliffjaBy livefromkyotoSomehow Robert Covington is dominating the game. Noel has been pretty rough this year, hasn't he?By ratcliffjaAnd man, the start to this Sixers-Raptors game is something else.
I don't even know what's happening.
Edit: Covington's got 14 points on 5/6 shooting so far including 4/5 from 3. Holy crap.
That's why I don't even know what's happening. I've never heard of this dude before, he was undrafted and spent almost all of last season in the d-league?
Honestly, I wouldn't expect it to last. They're still turning it over way too much and it's unlikely that his hot shooting will continue when he comes back in.
By ForeverPhiladelphia will bring honor to the east.
I don't how much you know about Atlantic Division culture (I'm an expert), but honour and shame are huge parts of it. Mostly shame.
I've been saying for a while that Covington is legitimately good, an old Morey favorite that went first in the D-League draft, stolen by Hinkie on an amazing contract. He can be their stretch 4 of the future.
I don't know what's crazier. That the Sixers turned it over 8 times in the first quarter and are still up by 8 or that the Raptors shot only 33.3% to the Sixers' 54.5% with 20% from 3 to the Sixers' 62.5% yet are only down by 8.
By diehardWithout Rondo they had a net Rtg of 8.7, with him an Rtg of 5.2.
So far he has been the very definition of a minus player.
They're also playing Charlie V and RJ off the bench, so....
Not sure how much their historic offense numbers were sustainable anyway.
Washington and Atlanta are the only East playoff teams with a winning record over their last 10.
just kill the east jeeze
just kill the east jeeze
By knux-futurelead cut to 4You knew it wouldn't last. The Sixers are going to get destroyed with essentially no bench whatsoever. Their starters are a bench on a typical NBA team and their bench is full of average D-League players, not even D-League standouts.
lol
By livefromkyotoBy knux-futurelead cut to 4
lol
…aaand tie game. Get Covington the Destroyer back on the court.
By livefromkyotoSo of course they bring in all the starters EXCEPT MCW and Covington. Incredible.By knux-futurelead cut to 4
lol
…aaand tie game. Get Covington the Destroyer back on the court.
By ratcliffjaBy livefromkyotoBy knux-futurelead cut to 4
lol
…aaand tie game. Get Covington the Destroyer back on the court.By livefromkyotoSo of course they bring in all the starters EXCEPT MCW and Covington. Incredible.By knux-futurelead cut to 4
lol
…aaand tie game. Get Covington the Destroyer back on the court.
MCW will probably log 40 minutes from now on with the Wroten injury so we will have to get him rest whenever we can