2015 NBA Jan |OT| Kyrie Needs Help

MSG doesn't deserve any benefit of the doubt after what they did to the Nets fan.

By BranduilMSG doesn't deserve any benefit of the doubt after what they did to the Nets fan.

well his boss hasn't spoken up him yet...

they were together

I am sure he will be a witness and everything tho.

I don't really know who is in the clear wrong

but I never cared for heckling

Josh Smith still leads the Pistons in field goal attempts LMAO.

By BranduilJosh Smith still leads the Pistons in field goal attempts LMAO.

I still laugh that he launching 2 threes a game at like 14%

By MorisLA is 4th worst now since Detroit removed JSmoove.

if Minny can rack up some wins when they get their players back LA is in there for one of the 3 decent rookie prospects. =`]

Fuck LA

By blackace

By BranduilJosh Smith still leads the Pistons in field goal attempts LMAO.

I still laugh that he launching 2 threes a game at like 14%

He's shot 2-16 since coming to Houston (7 games). He shot 5 against Chicago. F**kin' Milkhair.

So uh, true story. Nick Young said that he's enjoyed his time as a Laker more than as a Clipper because he learned more as a Laker than as a Clipper about "winning culture"...

In the team's two worst losing seasons like fucking ever.

How does the entire room of reporters not crack up over this?

By VahagnSo uh, true story. Nick Young said that he's enjoyed his time as a Laker more than as a Clipper because he learned more as a Laker than as a Clipper about "winning culture"…

In the team's two worst losing seasons like fucking ever.

How does the entire room of reporters not crack up over this?

What is he suppose to say "FML I'm playing on the shittier LA squad again"

By chandlerparsons

By blackace

By BranduilJosh Smith still leads the Pistons in field goal attempts LMAO.

I still laugh that he launching 2 threes a game at like 14%

He's shot 2-16 since coming to Houston (7 games). He shot 5 against Chicago. F**kin' Milkhair.

it's funny because the one he made was a highlight

Wonder if J.R. will be playing tonight.

The Future of Basketball Is Here, and It Looks a Lot Like James Harden

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/future-of-basketball-james-harden-daryl-morey-houston-rockets/


Fucking NO. The NBA better change shit up cause nobody wants to see a Houston-based offense as the offense of the future. Fuck that noise.

By reiloThe Future of Basketball Is Here, and It Looks a Lot Like James Harden

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/future-of-basketball-james-harden-daryl-morey-houston-rockets/


Fucking NO. The NBA better change shit up cause nobody wants to see a Houston-based offense as the offense of the future. Fuck that noise.

I like how the Rockets team shot chart is just 3s and attempts in the paint. That's it.

And by like, I mean I don't actually want to watch Houston play.

By reiloThe Future of Basketball Is Here, and It Looks a Lot Like James Harden

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/future-of-basketball-james-harden-daryl-morey-houston-rockets/


Fucking NO. The NBA better change shit up cause nobody wants to see a Houston-based offense as the offense of the future. Fuck that noise.

This will all be glorious about 5 years from now when this team never chips and their ceiling is 1st or 2nd round exit. But, if we're really giving credit to "avoid mid range like death, and shoot 3's and paint shots" - that credit should go to SVG more than any other person.

This is similar to what's happening in the NFL - teams focusing more on passing based offenses and less on rushing and defense.


Last 7 Superbowl winners: Seattle. Ravens. Giants twice (with 21, and 17 points). Pittsburgh, Green Bay. NO.

Losing side scores? 8, 31, 17, 25, 17, 23, 14. That Includes Manning twice (8, 17) and Brady twice (17, 14).



Harden's FTA per 100 possessions the last 3 full years: 13.3/11.9/12.3
Harden's FTA per 100 possessions playoffs in same time: 10.6/13.7/9.8

If they win a chip in the next couple years. By all means rub it in my face. But I think they have less than a 10% chance of doing it.

By reiloThe Future of Basketball Is Here, and It Looks a Lot Like James Harden

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/future-of-basketball-james-harden-daryl-morey-houston-rockets/


Fucking NO. The NBA better change shit up cause nobody wants to see a Houston-based offense as the offense of the future. Fuck that noise.

While I will readily admit we were better with him (and I loved him when he was in OKC), watching him from a distance makes me realize just how terrible he is to watch.

He's the kind of guy who is only loved by the fanbase of his current team.

By rodeoclownI like how the Rockets team shot chart is just 3s and attempts in the paint. That's it.

And by like, I mean I don't actually want to watch Houston play.

most uninteresting team to watch in the nba. would rather watch swaggy p taking 20 fadeaway 3's and lin barreling into another charge call than watch houston

By reiloThe Future of Basketball Is Here, and It Looks a Lot Like James Harden

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/future-of-basketball-james-harden-daryl-morey-houston-rockets/


Fucking NO. The NBA better change shit up cause nobody wants to see a Houston-based offense as the offense of the future. Fuck that noise.

Morey the Genius*

*Please ignore that Houston has the 19th-ranked offense in the league.

By Branduil

By reiloThe Future of Basketball Is Here, and It Looks a Lot Like James Harden

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/future-of-basketball-james-harden-daryl-morey-houston-rockets/


Fucking NO. The NBA better change shit up cause nobody wants to see a Houston-based offense as the offense of the future. Fuck that noise.

Morey the Genius*

*Please ignore that Houston has the 19th-ranked offense in the league.

Also ignore the fact that they just got the most anti-Morey type player ever and he's single handedly ruining them.

By reilo

By Branduil

By reiloThe Future of Basketball Is Here, and It Looks a Lot Like James Harden

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/future-of-basketball-james-harden-daryl-morey-houston-rockets/


Fucking NO. The NBA better change shit up cause nobody wants to see a Houston-based offense as the offense of the future. Fuck that noise.

Morey the Genius*

*Please ignore that Houston has the 19th-ranked offense in the league.

Also ignore the fact that they just got the most anti-Morey type player ever and he's single handedly ruining them.

They would have been fucking scary with Bosh though.

I was legit shook when it looked like that was going to happen.

By KingGondo

By reilo

By Branduil

By reiloThe Future of Basketball Is Here, and It Looks a Lot Like James Harden

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/future-of-basketball-james-harden-daryl-morey-houston-rockets/


Fucking NO. The NBA better change shit up cause nobody wants to see a Houston-based offense as the offense of the future. Fuck that noise.

Morey the Genius*

*Please ignore that Houston has the 19th-ranked offense in the league.

Also ignore the fact that they just got the most anti-Morey type player ever and he's single handedly ruining them.

They would have been fucking scary with Bosh though.

I was legit shook when it looked like that was going to happen.

Bosh is only the second best player on the 5th worst team in the NBA though... I think it's fair to question how good he is. That contract looks pretty heinous right now.

RT @YourManDevine: So Rick Ross got the Miami Heat logo tattooed on his face. http://t.co/u0A6eWm4bU http://t.co/11M91fvQqM

LOL

Woke up to the realization that Waiters and Ynot are going to kill each other.

By IWMTB19Bosh is only the second best player on the 5th worst team in the NBA though… I think it's fair to question how good he is. That contract looks pretty heinous right now.

Probably doesn't help them that they only have 3 legit NBA rotation players and one of them has legs that are falling off.

By IWMTB19

By KingGondo

By reilo

By Branduil

By reiloThe Future of Basketball Is Here, and It Looks a Lot Like James Harden

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/future-of-basketball-james-harden-daryl-morey-houston-rockets/


Fucking NO. The NBA better change shit up cause nobody wants to see a Houston-based offense as the offense of the future. Fuck that noise.

Morey the Genius*

*Please ignore that Houston has the 19th-ranked offense in the league.

Also ignore the fact that they just got the most anti-Morey type player ever and he's single handedly ruining them.

They would have been fucking scary with Bosh though.

I was legit shook when it looked like that was going to happen.

Bosh is only the second best player on the 5th worst team in the NBA though… I think it's fair to question how good he is. That contract looks pretty heinous right now.

That's about the least favorable way you can look at him. He's still top 20 in PER. And perhaps most importantly, he isn't a dipshit clown like most of the players on that team. Leadership is desperately needed there.

And yeah, the contract might look bad toward the end but he's still an impact player and I guarantee the Rox would prefer to have him over Ariza.

By KingGondoThat's about the least favorable way you can look at him. He's still top 20 in PER. And perhaps most importantly, he isn't a dipshit clown like most of the players on that team. Leadership is desperately needed there.

And yeah, the contract might look bad toward the end but he's still an impact player and I guarantee the Rox would prefer to have him over Ariza.

I don't know, Morey signed Ariza to big ticket deals twice now. He must really like him.

By MorisLA is 4th worst now since Detroit removed JSmoove.

if Minny can rack up some wins when they get their players back LA is in there for one of the 3 decent rookie prospects. =`]

Don't worry. They'll beat the Clippers tonight.

By rodeoclown

By KingGondoThat's about the least favorable way you can look at him. He's still top 20 in PER. And perhaps most importantly, he isn't a dipshit clown like most of the players on that team. Leadership is desperately needed there.

And yeah, the contract might look bad toward the end but he's still an impact player and I guarantee the Rox would prefer to have him over Ariza.

I don't know, Morey signed Ariza to big ticket deals twice now. He must really like him.

There's no doubt he likes Ariza, but it's undisputed that they really wanted Bosh.

Missing out on Bosh also cost them Parsons. If they had signed Bosh they would've matched the Dallas offer.

They also never would have signed Josh Smith.

Beverley
Harden
Parsons
Bosh
Howard

That would've been pretty legit. Yeah McHail would still be there but Spolestra proved you don't need a good coach to chip.

By rodeoclown

By reiloThe Future of Basketball Is Here, and It Looks a Lot Like James Harden

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/future-of-basketball-james-harden-daryl-morey-houston-rockets/


Fucking NO. The NBA better change shit up cause nobody wants to see a Houston-based offense as the offense of the future. Fuck that noise.

I like how the Rockets team shot chart is just 3s and attempts in the paint. That's it.

And by like, I mean I don't actually want to watch Houston play.

I like how in that article they lambast the Lakers offense even though the lakers have a more efficient offense than Houston despite a far tougher schedule of opponents to date.

Not a single mention of turnovers in the article. Houston has the 3rd worst turnover rate. They're 17th in TS%. In fact, this is quite amazing because they lead the league in offensive rebounding! You'd normally think a team with high number of OReb would have a higher TS% since Oreb lead to higher efficiency shots (putbacks and open 3s) which they talk about with regards to Harden as a "functional miss." So basically, the Rockets are a very good offensive team when Harden shoots and a very poor one when someone else is shooting the first shot. And they don't keep hold of the ball much.

Like, I understand the article praising Harden's offense but the Houston offense has been below average this season and is fucking boring as hell to watch. I could understand if it was at the top like last season, but it's not.

The truth is, a great offense can be built in numerous ways. Toronto does a lot of iso-ball and it works. Portland shot a ton of long 2s last year and are doing fine this year as well. You can be a beast on the OReb to pump up your offense too (something Portland did in the Roy era). There's numerous ways to create a great offense. It doesn't just have to be 3s, layups, FTs. It's about getting high percentage shots in general and finding the right way to get the right dristribution.

In fact, I'd argue Houston is shooting too many 3s and it's hurting their offense. Among the top 8 3PA teams, Houston is the only team not in the top 10 in offense. They lead the league in 3PA by 6 over #2 Phx. They should be trading these extra 3PA for some wide open long 2s/midrange. They're probably passing up a bunch of 45% long 2 chances for 20% 3s and 10% wild pain shots and it's why they aren't so good on offense.

Balance is often key. Houston seems to have gone so extreme that the strategy now hurts the offense rather than helps.

This is similar to what's happening in the NFL - teams focusing more on passing based offenses and less on rushing and defense.


Last 7 Superbowl winners: Seattle. Ravens. Giants twice (with 21, and 17 points). Pittsburgh, Green Bay. NO.

Losing side scores? 8, 31, 17, 25, 17, 23, 14. That Includes Manning twice (8, 17) and Brady twice (17, 14).

Going to somewhat disagree here. I agree on the defense part (though it should be noted some of those teams that lost had good defense as well). But focusing on passing over rushing does make sense. Seattle actually had a great passing offense last year by the numbers and Flacco and Eli had great great runs in the playoffs as passers (the NYG were also the worst rushing team in the league in 2011). In the NFL you need a good QB to win these days. An elite QB even better.

edit: Bosh is averaging 22ppg on 57%TS% on a team with like 2 other functional players. Come on IWMTB, Bosh has been quite good. In Houston, they'd have been the favorites.

I was apart of Spo ain't shit way back when but he's much better than McHale.

It's possible to win a chip with a coach who is merely good, but I doubt a terrible coach is gonna get it done.

Sanders spoke on the rumors of his disinterest in ball.

Sounds like he has some things going on, glad he's in a position to get help at least. Wish him the best.

By Mambalots of insightful stuff

Yea Houston's offense is trash. Another case of the analytics community stroking themselves and throwing objectivity out the window.

Regarding your football assessment. I never said you don't need a good or Elite QB. I said that offenses and strategies that are designed to put up 5000 yard seasons aren't what's winning Superbowls consistently. Superbowls are being won by teams that keep possession, don't turn it over, and play defense.

And you keep possession and limit turnovers by rushing. And not always rushing. Just balanced. Rushing a hell of a lot more than Brees or Payton did last year though, that's for sure. The Peyton Manning gimmick offense of a million and one 3-5 yard passes have failed him time and time and time again in the playoffs. And his one chip - he had one passing TD and a great team defense.

Brady won chips back when he relied on a dominant defense and great RB's. He was a game manager then more like Superbowl Eli and Wilson than Regular Season Peyton.


You can win that way just like you can win shooting 35 threes a game. But I think you have much higher chances of always looking for good quality looks and having a balanced offense than you do sticking to the Paint/Ft/3Pt rule as Gospel.

Waiters will debut tonight, coming off the bench.

He's wearing #23. But about that:

By Anthony SlaterDion Waiters said he didn't want to wear 23. Wanted 13 (after 3 and 1 were taken) but Thunder didn't want that because Harden wore it.

That's pathetic.

I've heard similar rumors about the local Fox Sports crew being instructed not to mention him unnecessarily or talk about the trade when we play Houston.

Guys.

The Nuggets got two first round picks from Cleveland for Timofey Mozgov.

Two firsts. For Mozgov.

When you can give up multiple firsts for a guy with a career 14.5 PER, you gotta do it.

By rodeoclownGuys.

The Nuggets got two first round picks from Cleveland for Timofey Mozgov.

Two firsts. For Mozgov.

When you can give up multiple firsts for a guy with a career 14.5 PER, you gotta do it.

Gonna be really sad when Bron leaves again after burning the franchise to the ground.

MOZ DA GOD!

Cavs were always going to have to overpay for Moz. Or a center in a general. I guess they could of went through the draft but don't necessarily seem to want to wait to develop a center. Moz is young, under contract, and they badly needed a center.

By spooksMOZ DA GOD!

Cavs were always going to have to overpay for Moz. Or a center in a general. I guess they could of went through the draft but don't necessarily seem to want to wait to develop a center. Moz is young, under contract, and they badly needed a center.

Those are about the best things you can say about him.

And he isn't *that* young.

Ok. Mozgov? Ffs. If he's woth two first's then Shump/Jr are worth one + a second rounder.


Phil's negotiation skills aren't encouraging.

By rodeoclownGuys.

The Nuggets got two first round picks from Cleveland for Timofey Mozgov.

Two firsts. For Mozgov.

When you can give up multiple firsts for a guy with a career 14.5 PER, you gotta do it.

I was amazed when I saw that. The Cavs are completely and utterly fucked if anyone gets hurt or if Love leaves this off season

Parsons to Ariza is probably a bigger downgrade than Bosh to Jones/DM. Hard to play SVG/Moreyball with guys who flat out can't shoot. Parsons is definitely overpaid, but he's clearly a good 3rd option. The Bosh/Parsons frontcourt would be murdering guys from the corners with Harden on the wing and Dwight in the middle.

By obijkenobi

By rodeoclownGuys.

The Nuggets got two first round picks from Cleveland for Timofey Mozgov.

Two firsts. For Mozgov.

When you can give up multiple firsts for a guy with a career 14.5 PER, you gotta do it.

I was amazed when I saw that. The Cavs are completely and utterly fucked if anyone gets hurt or if Love leaves this off season

They're probably still fucked.

They have no other interior bigs besides Mozgov (who isn't even that good).

Their supporting cast is made up of Friends of LeBron who are past their prime, too.

This trade is absolute robbery by Denver.

Called it.

By ForeverCleveland is going to package that pick with the one they got from the Grizzlies, and maybe throw in their 2018 first, and they might be able to land a decent center.

I suppose Cavs fans should be thankful they avoided giving up their 2018 first?

So Mozgov was worth more than Rondo in the end huh?

Cavs gave up the Memphis pick and the Okc pick they just got. Keep their own though. Which they couldn't trade because of rules anyways.

Are the Nuggets just good at robbing other teams in trades?

By rodeoclownGuys.

The Nuggets got two first round picks from Cleveland for Timofey Mozgov.

Two firsts. For Mozgov.

When you can give up multiple firsts for a guy with a career 14.5 PER, you gotta do it.

TWO FIRSTS? What the actual fuck.

By reiloTWO FIRSTS? What the actual fuck.

It was easy to see it coming lol.

By CheddahzAre the Nuggets just good at robbing other teams in trades?

That and the Cavs suck at roster management. The Spurs probably could have stolen Kevin Love for Baynes straight up. Lolz

Jusuf Nurkic is gonna beast in the 28 minutes per game he plays before he fouls out and or collapses drunk on the court.

But they're gonna be 28 awesome minutes.

By CheddahzAre the Nuggets just good at robbing other teams in trades?

They're good at taking advantage of other teams' desperation.