By Forever Go To PostThis would be hilarious if the consequences weren't so serious.
'I really regret my vote now': The Brexit voters who wish they'd voted to remain
Too late now you jackasses.
Mandy Suthi the woman in the video will regret her vote even more once she realizes public funding for uni was cut as a result as well. I can't believe these idiots sent the world into a great recession because of false information about immigration and 350 million euros a week of aid sent away.
I'm over here getting hourly updates on my cryptocurrency investments hoping doge goes to the moon so I can relocate.
By 3SidedPolygons Go To PostI think you took the blowjobs for boiled shoes thing too literally.
This won't be mad max, horrible forever or a long lasting depression (most likely).
It will be a self inflicted economic wound that's quite serious and provides few if any alternate reality scenarios where Britain is better off in the future because of it.
The truth is we'll have no idea how bad this gets until after the trade deals are negotiated. If the EU and the US decide to make an example out of Britain, it could get bad quickly. If Scotland and Norther Ireland leave, it could get worse
Possibly, but that was the point of my post and pretty much what I had said. This won't cause financial ruin and will hopefully be something they can recover from long term feeling the brunt of their stupidity short term.
By Fenderputty Go To PostPossibly, but that was the point of my post and pretty much what I had said. This won't cause financial ruin and will hopefully be something they can recover from long term feeling the brunt of their stupidity short term.Long term they'll recover. But they'll always be behind where they could have been.
This doesn't turn them into a wasteland, but it significantly alters their future.
And while the UK's service economy IS huge, and larger than any other? in Europe, that was because you could access all of Europe through the UK. Now you can't. That's going to get significantly reduced.
I think this will hurt more than people realize. Even longer term.
By giririsss Go To PostLong term they'll recover. But they'll always be behind where they could have been.
This doesn't turn them into a wasteland, but it significantly alters their future.
And while the UK's service economy IS huge, and larger than any other? in Europe, that was because you could access all of Europe through the UK. Now you can't. That's going to get significantly reduced.
I think this will hurt more than people realize. Even longer term.
Bingo. Back to my friend, that's in London. She's been traveling Europe on her weekends. That was a huge selling point to the relocation. If you're a company like HP wanting to build a European branch/office - do you go to London now or do you go to Paris or Germany?
I don't see how MORE companies go there because of this.
The entire Brexit affair is a fascinating case study in democracy. People love democracy until popular votes turn out other than the way they want, then these folks throw a temper tantrum about it calling for a new vote. Meanwhile, the press has completely revealed their elite class pedigree by trying to re-contextualize the vote as being about the educated vs. uneducated, racists vs. non-racists, or young vs. old. Surprisingly the left completely ignores their own arguments about class struggle, as the working class votes to leave the EU. The media also ignores the national sovereignty vs. supra-national entity with unelected leaders argument, which I find quite convenient.
See the below article for a clear example, as one of the popular "memes" about Brexit that the press has invented is that the British people were frantically googling about the EU to find out what it was that they had just voted to leave.
http://steve-patterson.com/less-than-1000-brits-googled-what-is-the-eu-after-referendum/
See the below article for a clear example, as one of the popular "memes" about Brexit that the press has invented is that the British people were frantically googling about the EU to find out what it was that they had just voted to leave.
http://steve-patterson.com/less-than-1000-brits-googled-what-is-the-eu-after-referendum/
By Spengo Go To PostThe entire Brexit affair is a fascinating case study in democracy. People love democracy until popular votes turn out other than the way they wantDirect democracy has always been kind of shit.
Polls say that if Americans voted on Trump's Muslim ban right now it would pass. There's a reason we don't have national referendums. Some shit is too important to be left to the masses.
Are you British? If you are I mean, like, good luck with that.
By Forever Go To PostAre you British? If you are I mean, like, good luck with that.*shakes head*
By Spengo Go To PostThe entire Brexit affair is a fascinating case study in democracy. People love democracy until popular votes turn out other than the way they want, then these folks throw a temper tantrum about it calling for a new vote. Meanwhile, the press has completely revealed their elite class pedigree by trying to re-contextualize the vote as being about the educated vs. uneducated, racists vs. non-racists, or young vs. old. Surprisingly the left completely ignores their own arguments about class struggle, as the working class votes to leave the EU. The media also ignores the national sovereignty vs. supra-national entity with unelected leaders argument, which I find quite convenient.
See the below article for a clear example, as one of the popular "memes" about Brexit that the press has invented is that the British people were frantically googling about the EU to find out what it was that they had just voted to leave.
http://steve-patterson.com/less-than-1000-brits-googled-what-is-the-eu-after-referendum/
Ideologues can go suck a fat one. These people tanked their own economy, and against the advice of the vast majority of the experts, inflicted a multi trillion dollar wound on the world economy.
You don't get credit for taking your health into your own hands if you refuse chemotherapy and then walk out of the doctor's office and stab yourself in the eye with a knife. People who don't listen to the vast majority of economists in order to send some dumbass political/white supremacist message aren't fighting class warfare. They're being fucking dumb.
How many conservative based self-inflicted wounds do we have to do to the world economy before mother fuckers wake up? Great Depression, Great Recession, Brexit are all the result of conservative fueled ideological stupidity which leaves the grownups having to pick up the pieces while conservatives bitch and moan about immigrants and big gubamint.
The EU played a large part in avoiding another third European War just like FDR's regulations played a large part in preventing another seismic collapse. Dipshits had to wave the flag of ideological purity and dismantle both of them. When Brexiters give the world back the 3 trillion they cost it, when Brexiters make sure that their children, and only their children, are there to fight the next great European war. They'll deserve some respect. Otherwise, fuck them.
I genuinely feel bad for the people of the UK. My family that live in London and voted for Remain will be (relatively) fine but the rest of the Britain will feel the consequences of the vote. The EU was the only institution actively funding parts of England and Wales, areas that the Tory government have destroyed via spending cuts and austerity for years. Cornwall for example gets a lot of money from the EU and there's 0 chance a Tory government will make it up for them. This vote essentially just swaps the bureaucrats of the EU for the ones of the Tory party, who by most metrics are marginally worse and only loyal to bankers and business leaders and now will have more control over the populace than ever before. The idea that the people will "take their country back" is not only false, it's destructive. All they've achieved is handing it over to the lesser of two evils. While admitting the EU itself is far from perfect as an institution the average British citizen is better off in Europe than outside of it.
The voters who voted Leave were courted and lied to by racist and nationalist demagogues and opportunistic charlatans like Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson. Politicians who preyed on people and fed them lies and pipe dreams without knowledge of what the EU is and what it really does, people who actually have the most to lose because of this vote. Farage admitting the money spent on the EU won't be going to the NHS basically sums everything up quite nicely. Johnson and Michael Gove are also going backwards on their promises. Farage and Johnson for example, I don't believe they ever thought Leave would win the vote. Johnson was also using this to prop up a challenge against Cameron for Prime Minister. I don't even think Johnson himself wanted to leave Europe. He was the mayor of London for goodness sake, he of all people would know how much damage it would do to Britain if London loses its status as a global financial hub. That may well be already happening with talk of Morgan Stanley moving jobs over to Frankfurt and Paris, for example.
Well, Leave did win and there are no plans or contingencies in place. No one knows what will happen next month, never mind past October when they'll presumably activate Article 50 and begin the leaving process, or further in the future. David Cameron may as well be the worst Prime Minister of British history for gambling the country's future and his political career on this referendum but he's playing the aftermath quite well. Leaving it up to his successor essentially creates the job of Prime Minister as a poisoned chalice - no politician, certainly not Johnson, wants to go down in history as the man who initiated Article 50 and (potentially) broke up the kingdom.
What are the big changes that will occur next in the UK with the result of this vote? No one knows for certain but we can make some educated guesses. Britain imports way more products than it itself produces. Their biggest industry by far is financial service, and I can't think of an industry that would be able to get up and move somewhere else easier than that one. If they want access to the single market they will have to play by the same rules as everyone else - so that means freedom of movement and workers. Angela Merkel and Matteo Renzi have reiterated this recently. The Leave campaign made promises that Britain will "control it's borders" but that is, of course, yet another backtrack. There is 0 chance of Britain getting a similar deal as before never mind a better one. To claim contrary is pure fantasy.
Britain only really has two scenarios here when it negotiates. Scenario A is: accept a deal similar to Norway or Switzerland where it pays into the EU, abides by the laws, and reaps the benefits BUT doesn't get to dictate the laws or have any say in parliament. There are only two nations on earth better positioned than the EU at economic and trade negotiations, and Britain is definitely not one of them. If the people were annoyed with European bureaucrats (including ones that are from Britain), they have better be prepared to have 0 say at all in the way the EU is run. Next year Britain is scheduled to run the presidency of the EU but that is another thing no one knows what will happen. Scenario B is there is no deal between Britain and the EU and Britain get nothing. Those are its only options. The EU holds all the cards and all the leverage. The EU will do all it can to make an example of the UK as to why leaving the union is bad for a nation, to deter others from the same fate.
With the way Europe is going; the far right gaining ground and Russia forever lurking in the back ready to exploit weakness, I honestly think Britain is better off with inside the EU. Everyone benefits when we work together rather than running off on our own to do god knows what. I'm of the opinion currently they will not actually go through it, but it's all up in the air. The referendum is simply advisory, has no constitutional power, and has not activated Article 50 yet. With the delay until October I feel like the idea will get more and more unpopular as Cameron's mandate winds down. Parliament still needs to vote and the vast majority of MPs are against Brexit. Whatever happens from now, may God save the Queen.
The voters who voted Leave were courted and lied to by racist and nationalist demagogues and opportunistic charlatans like Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson. Politicians who preyed on people and fed them lies and pipe dreams without knowledge of what the EU is and what it really does, people who actually have the most to lose because of this vote. Farage admitting the money spent on the EU won't be going to the NHS basically sums everything up quite nicely. Johnson and Michael Gove are also going backwards on their promises. Farage and Johnson for example, I don't believe they ever thought Leave would win the vote. Johnson was also using this to prop up a challenge against Cameron for Prime Minister. I don't even think Johnson himself wanted to leave Europe. He was the mayor of London for goodness sake, he of all people would know how much damage it would do to Britain if London loses its status as a global financial hub. That may well be already happening with talk of Morgan Stanley moving jobs over to Frankfurt and Paris, for example.
Well, Leave did win and there are no plans or contingencies in place. No one knows what will happen next month, never mind past October when they'll presumably activate Article 50 and begin the leaving process, or further in the future. David Cameron may as well be the worst Prime Minister of British history for gambling the country's future and his political career on this referendum but he's playing the aftermath quite well. Leaving it up to his successor essentially creates the job of Prime Minister as a poisoned chalice - no politician, certainly not Johnson, wants to go down in history as the man who initiated Article 50 and (potentially) broke up the kingdom.
What are the big changes that will occur next in the UK with the result of this vote? No one knows for certain but we can make some educated guesses. Britain imports way more products than it itself produces. Their biggest industry by far is financial service, and I can't think of an industry that would be able to get up and move somewhere else easier than that one. If they want access to the single market they will have to play by the same rules as everyone else - so that means freedom of movement and workers. Angela Merkel and Matteo Renzi have reiterated this recently. The Leave campaign made promises that Britain will "control it's borders" but that is, of course, yet another backtrack. There is 0 chance of Britain getting a similar deal as before never mind a better one. To claim contrary is pure fantasy.
Britain only really has two scenarios here when it negotiates. Scenario A is: accept a deal similar to Norway or Switzerland where it pays into the EU, abides by the laws, and reaps the benefits BUT doesn't get to dictate the laws or have any say in parliament. There are only two nations on earth better positioned than the EU at economic and trade negotiations, and Britain is definitely not one of them. If the people were annoyed with European bureaucrats (including ones that are from Britain), they have better be prepared to have 0 say at all in the way the EU is run. Next year Britain is scheduled to run the presidency of the EU but that is another thing no one knows what will happen. Scenario B is there is no deal between Britain and the EU and Britain get nothing. Those are its only options. The EU holds all the cards and all the leverage. The EU will do all it can to make an example of the UK as to why leaving the union is bad for a nation, to deter others from the same fate.
With the way Europe is going; the far right gaining ground and Russia forever lurking in the back ready to exploit weakness, I honestly think Britain is better off with inside the EU. Everyone benefits when we work together rather than running off on our own to do god knows what. I'm of the opinion currently they will not actually go through it, but it's all up in the air. The referendum is simply advisory, has no constitutional power, and has not activated Article 50 yet. With the delay until October I feel like the idea will get more and more unpopular as Cameron's mandate winds down. Parliament still needs to vote and the vast majority of MPs are against Brexit. Whatever happens from now, may God save the Queen.
The amount of time dedicated to Northern Ireland issues in this debate is disgusting. EU membership was a great thing for NI and we're gonna get fucked so hard if this goes ahead.
Wouldn't be surprised if the referendum was made void. Seems like nobody in parliament actually wants to deal with it.
By Forever Go To PostLOL Boris "The Cunt" Johnson isn't running to succeed Cameron. There's a silver lining.Silver lining? Johnson is actually preferable to Theresa May who is literally insane.
By Forever Go To PostLOL Boris "The Cunt" Johnson isn't running to succeed Cameron. There's a silver lining.
Another Conservative, Theresa May, who oversees crime and immigration policy as Home secretary, was polling slightly ahead of Johnson before his announcement, and could now be the favorite in the prime minister’s race. (Three other candidates besides May and Gove are also running.)jesus fucking christ?! That's an ELECTED official? And she's the favorite to become PM? Good fucking lord.
May has overseen the UK’s tough new immigration policies, including a new requirement that non-EU citizens must earn at least 35,000 pounds (nearly $50,000) in order to stay in the UK. She once drove vans through immigrant neighborhoods with the message "go home or face arrest." But she also supported remaining in the European Union, and is considered the establishment candidate.
By reilo Go To Postjesus fucking christ?! That's an ELECTED official? And she's the favorite to become PM? Good fucking lord.
Yup. She also had that lovely Snoopers Charter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_Communications_Data_Bill
A right gallery of psychopaths and old-world racists in power, and people were worried about the EU.
That took even less time that I thought it would. Over the last 3 days, the Dow has gained 790 points after losing 871 immediately after the brexit vote. In fact, we are UP for the month of June. Told ya'll. I sincerely hope none of you did anything rash with your retirement funds or investments!
Farage steps down
Cunt
Nigel Farage says he is standing down as leader of the UK Independence Party.
Mr Farage said his "political ambition has been achieved" with the UK having voted to leave the EU.
Cunt