By dy_nastyI'll take Zeller and a pick with that.By DarkRumor out about lance and Brooklyn involved in a trade#freelance
The hornets are about to give up a first for Joe Johnson aren't they
Dy am excite
Jason Concepcion: New York Knicks: a team in turmoil, 2001-14. Yesterday afternoon, news broke that Carmelo Anthony and Tim Hardaway Jr. had gotten into an argument during the team’s loss to the Brooklyn Nets last week, after Hardaway yelled, “Get the rebound!” at Melo, prompting Anthony to threaten to beat Hardaway’s ass like Miles Teller’s Whiplash snare drum. Reportedly, the source of the tension between Hardaway and Anthony is that each guy thinks the other guy shoots too much and doesn’t play enough defense. I mean, try figuring that one out; it’s like some kind of ouroboros of terrible basketball.
I especially like the part where Hardaway, owner of a career 6.7 defensive rebounding percentage, a guy currently averaging 1.2 rebounds per game, is yelling at other people about getting rebounds. It’s like Jesse Pinkman telling you to pick up the living room a little bit.
The Spurs started Corey Joseph, an old toaster, some rando who’s like a friend of a friend, Kyle Anderson, and Aron Baynes.
https://vine.co/v/O6zYaIMiYBj
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/nba-shootaround-me-against-the-world/
By ZeusI'm totally okay with sending a pick this time around. We've got plenty of young guys at every position.By dy_nastyBy DarkRumor out about lance and Brooklyn involved in a trade#freelance
The hornets are about to give up a first for Joe Johnson aren't they
Dy am excite
to make that trade work the hornets would be sending M. Williams and Henderson out with Lance…… If they don't add a pick that shit would be a rape package.
edit: lol you're never getting zeller, forever. you'd be lucky to get biz
The thing about this version of Kobe at the bottom is that he's secretly cool with it. Yeah he'd prefer to be winning games, but that's mostly negated by how giddy he is about beating M.J's scoring record.
06 Kobe would have been talking to random cats outside of malls about how shitty the roster is by now.
His practice rage was basically just a signal to the reporter to write that he is "not okay" with all of this, even though he kinda sort of is.
06 Kobe would have been talking to random cats outside of malls about how shitty the roster is by now.
His practice rage was basically just a signal to the reporter to write that he is "not okay" with all of this, even though he kinda sort of is.
By dy_nastyI'm totally okay with sending a pick this time around. We've got plenty of young guys at every position.You drive a hard bargain. Done.
edit: lol you're never getting zeller, forever. you'd be lucky to get biz
By reiloHardaway yelled, “Get the rebound!” at Melo, prompting Anthony to threaten to beat Hardaway’s ass like Miles Teller’s Whiplash snare drum.lol that's a very specific threat.
By reiloJason Concepcion: New York Knicks: a team in turmoil, 2001-14. Yesterday afternoon, news broke that Carmelo Anthony and Tim Hardaway Jr. had gotten into an argument during the team’s loss to the Brooklyn Nets last week, after Hardaway yelled, “Get the rebound!” at Melo, prompting Anthony to threaten to beat Hardaway’s ass like Miles Teller’s Whiplash snare drum. Reportedly, the source of the tension between Hardaway and Anthony is that each guy thinks the other guy shoots too much and doesn’t play enough defense. I mean, try figuring that one out; it’s like some kind of ouroboros of terrible basketball.I especially like the part where Hardaway, owner of a career 6.7 defensive rebounding percentage, a guy currently averaging 1.2 rebounds per game, is yelling at other people about getting rebounds. It’s like Jesse Pinkman telling you to pick up the living room a little bit.The Spurs started Corey Joseph, an old toaster, some rando who’s like a friend of a friend, Kyle Anderson, and Aron Baynes.
https://vine.co/v/O6zYaIMiYBj
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/nba-shootaround-me-against-the-world/
Everything I've read from Jason Concepcion has been brilliant this week. His comments on the Nets were easily the best in the bunch.
Dude's flat out hilarious. Grantland really is acquiring all the best writers in the world at this point.
Also. Your snide comment about system aside. I never said system. I said it could be a system thing or a situation thing. and In Lebron's case it was more situation than system. I.e.
"He's dealing with a completely different roster that is requiring him to play a different style. He's working harder on offense because he's playing point guard almost every minute he's on the floor. … The Heat had mastered the art of creating space and there were way more driving lanes than he typically has now."
"There is indeed something that has regressed this season involving LeBron, I will say that," a league scout said. "The Heat."
So how am I wrong? If you ignore all of the actual stuff scouts and league execs say and concentrate on his soreness and age? Sure. But then, you're being a clown and cherry picking quotes out of the very article you linked.
I mean for fucks sake dude. It's like arguing that Carmelo is playing worse this year than last year SOLELY BECAUSE he's got a sore knee and he's older. Putting him at the 3 instead of the 4 has nothing to do with it? Putting him in the Triangle and asking him to playmake instead of iso'ing him all day and cowtowing to his ballhogging have nothing to do with it?
the "you can't present an x's and o's argument because i don't understand x's and o's" attitude is lazy.
By AdamWhy would we want Anthony Davis? I mean he's great, but PF and PG aren't exactly what we need right now. I don't know how well he'd do at center.
By ratcliffjaWait, is this a serious post?By AdamWhy would we want Anthony Davis? I mean he's great, but PF and PG aren't exactly what we need right now. I don't know how well he'd do at center.
By diehardOf course not. I just don't get why it's even a fantasy. Harris would probably be a good addition, but no team would trade an MVP candidate on a rookie contract with the current CBA rules.By ratcliffjaWait, is this a serious post?By AdamWhy would we want Anthony Davis? I mean he's great, but PF and PG aren't exactly what we need right now. I don't know how well he'd do at center.
Holy shit, there's video of Kobe's quote, and it's way worse when you hear him say it: https://vine.co/v/O6hOL2IE3Zd
By Foreverjoe and al would expire at the same time anyways and we'd have money to sign another SG if PJ doesn't show out like i really think he will by then... everyone winsBy dy_nastyI'm totally okay with sending a pick this time around. We've got plenty of young guys at every position.You drive a hard bargain. Done.
edit: lol you're never getting zeller, forever. you'd be lucky to get bizBy reiloHardaway yelled, “Get the rebound!” at Melo, prompting Anthony to threaten to beat Hardaway’s ass like Miles Teller’s Whiplash snare drum.lol that's a very specific threat.
bish gets lionel and is allowed to goon freely, lance gets his shooters, joe gets to slowball... plsmj
By reiloHoly shit, there's video of Kobe's quote, and it's way worse when you hear him say it: https://vine.co/v/O6hOL2IE3Zdi know what mitch is thinking.
"just two more seasons"
By reiloHoly shit, there's video of Kobe's quote, and it's way worse when you hear him say it: https://vine.co/v/O6hOL2IE3Zd
He claims that he's supposed to practice to get better but that his teammates can't help because they're so bad.
Cool guy, Kobe. They're all there for you. They're not supposed to be getting better themselves, right? You couldn't possibly help them improve, or is that asking too much?
Later Bryant said, "You mother—–s are soft like Charmin in this mother—–. God damn, is this the type of s— that's going on in these practices? Now I see why we've lost 20 f—–ing games. We're soft like Charmin. We're soft like s—."
Sheeit.
By dy_nastyjoe and al would expire at the same time anyways and we'd have money to sign another SG if PJ doesn't show out like i really think he will by then… everyone winsYeah if that deal is on the table I take it no questions asked. Lance could be a good fit with Hollins, Biz is definitely a great fit with Hollins, plus a pick to look forward to? Perfect. Meanwhile Joe would fix your offense.
bish gets lionel and is allowed to goon freely, lance gets his shooters, joe gets to slowball… plsmj
Bryant was also getting on Jeremy Lin during the scrimmage, daring him to shoot whenever he had the ball, yelling, "This mother—– don't got s—. He ain't got s— right now. Shoot! Shoot!" After Lin missed a pull-up jumper, Bryant said, "I talked his ass right into that bulls—. I talked his a— right into that bulls—."
Kobe Bryant is an asshole in practice when he thinks his teammates aren't playing hard.
Stop the presses!!!
Stop the presses!!!
holy shit jeff
this thing is still fucking hilarious
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjVatWXiye_kdG9BQUpLS1VKdXV4bldhRVgtVDhDQ1E#gid=0
bah gawd the fukkery in this
this thing is still fucking hilarious
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjVatWXiye_kdG9BQUpLS1VKdXV4bldhRVgtVDhDQ1E#gid=0
bah gawd the fukkery in this
By dy_nastyholy shit jeffHoly blast from the past. That is amazing.
this thing is still fucking hilarious
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjVatWXiye_kdG9BQUpLS1VKdXV4bldhRVgtVDhDQ1E#gid=0
bah gawd the fukkery in this
Can't attend. PO says it'd be a bad idea. 818 James Revoked. Cockblocks/White Knights
/dead
By Jeff-DSABy reiloHoly shit, there's video of Kobe's quote, and it's way worse when you hear him say it: https://vine.co/v/O6hOL2IE3Zd
He claims that he's supposed to practice to get better but that his teammates can't help because they're so bad.
Cool guy, Kobe. They're all there for you. They're not supposed to be getting better themselves, right? You couldn't possibly help them improve, or is that asking too much?
What does helping them improve involve in your mind?
By DominicanPowerI can't believe Byron Scott keeps getting hired. Dude is stuck in the 80's. Dude is nothing but a Kobe lackey.
nobody else wanted to coach the Lakers
By VahagnBy Jeff-DSABy reiloHoly shit, there's video of Kobe's quote, and it's way worse when you hear him say it: https://vine.co/v/O6hOL2IE3Zd
He claims that he's supposed to practice to get better but that his teammates can't help because they're so bad.
Cool guy, Kobe. They're all there for you. They're not supposed to be getting better themselves, right? You couldn't possibly help them improve, or is that asking too much?
What does helping them improve involve in your mind?
yelling cusswords at the gm for getting them immediately comes to mind
By blackaceBy VahagnBy Jeff-DSABy reiloHoly shit, there's video of Kobe's quote, and it's way worse when you hear him say it: https://vine.co/v/O6hOL2IE3Zd
He claims that he's supposed to practice to get better but that his teammates can't help because they're so bad.
Cool guy, Kobe. They're all there for you. They're not supposed to be getting better themselves, right? You couldn't possibly help them improve, or is that asking too much?
What does helping them improve involve in your mind?
yelling cusswords at the gm for getting them immediately comes to mind
Right, because a 4 second clip where he's questioning their effort is the entirety of his interaction with players.
It might be representative of who he is in your mind. And it might also erase the tons of comments made by teammates this year alone about how Kobe's taken the time to watch film with them or give them nuances to improve their game in your mind as well.
But how does that change the overall objective narrative that has come out about him over 19 years. He'll spend tons of time on buses and planes and practice reviewing film and pulling guys aside one by one to give them insight. And he'll get super pissed and trash talk when he thinks his teammates aren't playing hard.
4 second clip he says...
Later Bryant said, "You m—–f—— are soft like Charmin in this m—–f—–. God damn, is this the type of s— that's going on in these practices? Now I see why we've lost 20 f—ing games. We're soft like Charmin. We're soft like s—."
Bryant was also getting on Jeremy Lin during the scrimmage, daring him to shoot whenever he had the ball, yelling, "This m—–f—– don't got s—. He ain't got s— right now. Shoot! Shoot!" After Lin missed a pull-up jumper, Bryant said, "I talked his ass right into that bulls—. I talked his ass right into that bulls—."
By the end of the scrimmage, which the starters won, Bryant said, "Practice gets real uncomfortable when I'm in this m—–f—–."
After the team gathered together at center court to close practice, Bryant passed Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak and said, "I'm supposed to practice and get better, Mitch. I'm supposed to practice and get better. These m—–f—— ain't doing s— for me."
These things surely are cyclical. Unfortunately, the cycle has been more like the movement of glaciers and the birth and death of planets than fall turning into winter. Today, the disparity between East and West is worse than ever before, and no division symbolizes the yawning gulf in class between the conferences like the ever-beleaguered Atlantic.
In the 10 full seasons since realignment, the Atlantic Division has finished the season with a winning percentage over .500 only one time: the 2012-13 season, during which a shockingly lively 54-win Knicks team drove the division’s cumulative winning percentage to .517. That stat looks even worse when you consider that the Celtics won more than 60 games twice during that stretch, including a successful title run.
This season, the Raptors are 16-6, acting as the artisanal whipped cream and freshly picked cherry atop the trash-fire sundae of Nets, Celtics, Sixers, and Knicks. Cumulative winning percentage of the non-dinosaur-branded Atlantic Division teams: .259. We’re one Kyle Lowry slip in the shower away from making NBA history.
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/worst-nba-division-atlantic-knicks-celtics-raptors-sixers-nets/
By reilo4 second clip he says…Later Bryant said, "You m—–f—— are soft like Charmin in this m—–f—–. God damn, is this the type of s— that's going on in these practices? Now I see why we've lost 20 f—ing games. We're soft like Charmin. We're soft like s—."Bryant was also getting on Jeremy Lin during the scrimmage, daring him to shoot whenever he had the ball, yelling, "This m—–f—– don't got s—. He ain't got s— right now. Shoot! Shoot!" After Lin missed a pull-up jumper, Bryant said, "I talked his ass right into that bulls—. I talked his ass right into that bulls—."By the end of the scrimmage, which the starters won, Bryant said, "Practice gets real uncomfortable when I'm in this m—–f—–."After the team gathered together at center court to close practice, Bryant passed Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak and said, "I'm supposed to practice and get better, Mitch. I'm supposed to practice and get better. These m—–f—— ain't doing s— for me."
"No, I was just being myself," Bryant said. "I don't know if it helps them, but it obviously raises the intensity level. It was a tough practice for them … It's really good for Nick, aside from the fun of bantering back and forth and the trash talk, just fundamentally some of the techniques and things that I use. He gets a chance to really see up close those little tricks."
"I just challenge guys and see what happens. I've always believed in throwing them in the pool and seeing if they can sink or swim.
"Any time (No.) 24 practices, it's going to be an intense practice," Scott said. "I think he brings out the best in the guys. It's a good way to start the trip … I don't think anything irritated him. I just think he did a great job of getting everyone else fired up. He's always fired up. That's the great thing about him. He's such a competitor. When he comes out here the intensity level in practice goes sky high and he challenges guys, which is what you should do
"I haven't seen Kobe practice like that in a while," Young said. "I've been waiting to get back out there since he hurt my thumb and talk some trash. It's been almost nine weeks since we got the chance to (talk trash) a little bit. It brings out the best in practice when you're going at it like that."
"You can't back down from a challenge, no matter who it is," Young said. "Me and Kobe are always going to talk trash and get into it. When he talks to everybody else, some people tend to shy away and I was telling them you have to have some cojones in this league. It doesn't matter who it is. Play your game. Don't get any less confident out there. Talk trash right back to him."
Your ability to cherry pick quotes from articles to support one sided views is getting to be quite legendary. I assume you're going to sell me a Fox News endorsed "Obama only cares about black people" T Shirt soon.
By reiloVaggy the type that believed Baghdad Bob when he said the US hadn't invaded Baghdad yet.
Kobe fans crack me up. Another friend of mine is just the same. He told me that it was the Lakers fault that Kobe is taking shitty shots because they didn't get him teammates he could trust. lol
By VahagnBy blackaceBy VahagnBy Jeff-DSABy reiloHoly shit, there's video of Kobe's quote, and it's way worse when you hear him say it: https://vine.co/v/O6hOL2IE3Zd
He claims that he's supposed to practice to get better but that his teammates can't help because they're so bad.
Cool guy, Kobe. They're all there for you. They're not supposed to be getting better themselves, right? You couldn't possibly help them improve, or is that asking too much?
What does helping them improve involve in your mind?
yelling cusswords at the gm for getting them immediately comes to mind
Right, because a 4 second clip where he's questioning their effort is the entirety of his interaction with players.
It might be representative of who he is in your mind. And it might also erase the tons of comments made by teammates this year alone about how Kobe's taken the time to watch film with them or give them nuances to improve their game in your mind as well.
But how does that change the overall objective narrative that has come out about him over 19 years. He'll spend tons of time on buses and planes and practice reviewing film and pulling guys aside one by one to give them insight. And he'll get super pissed and trash talk when he thinks his teammates aren't playing hard.
Right because this 4 second clip is the only negative news we have heard about Kobe and his teammates during his career.
By psychintellectthe cameraman is hilarious"You fly the Knicks out to North Korea and I guarantee you Dennis Rodman's team will beat them!"
lol shit at the yellow brick road bit
"These cats need to hold hands as a team, and walk down the yellow brick road, and go see the wizard, and ask the wizard for some heart! For some courage! Cause y'all ain't got it!"
I think this game without Lebron is more interesting than with him. I really hope Dion can step up and continue playing great.
By blackaceBy VahagnBy blackaceBy VahagnBy Jeff-DSABy reiloHoly shit, there's video of Kobe's quote, and it's way worse when you hear him say it: https://vine.co/v/O6hOL2IE3Zd
He claims that he's supposed to practice to get better but that his teammates can't help because they're so bad.
Cool guy, Kobe. They're all there for you. They're not supposed to be getting better themselves, right? You couldn't possibly help them improve, or is that asking too much?
What does helping them improve involve in your mind?
yelling cusswords at the gm for getting them immediately comes to mind
Right, because a 4 second clip where he's questioning their effort is the entirety of his interaction with players.
It might be representative of who he is in your mind. And it might also erase the tons of comments made by teammates this year alone about how Kobe's taken the time to watch film with them or give them nuances to improve their game in your mind as well.
But how does that change the overall objective narrative that has come out about him over 19 years. He'll spend tons of time on buses and planes and practice reviewing film and pulling guys aside one by one to give them insight. And he'll get super pissed and trash talk when he thinks his teammates aren't playing hard.
Right because this 4 second clip is the only negative news we have heard about Kobe and his teammates during his career.
Of course it's not. Kobe isn't acting brand new, he's been the same guy. That guy is an asshole - especially in practice - and especially if he doesn't like the effort. But that guy is also more willing to pull guys aside and watch film with them and give them pointers than anyone in LA in 20 years. He does it on practically every plane and bus ride they take.
So, once again. How does that 4 second video prove he doesn't care about helping his teammates get better.
FFS it's like saying Steve Jobs was an asshole. That's the end of the story. Move on folks.
It's even more hilarious that the SAME article has quotes representative of both aspects. And one aspect is cherry picked, one aspect is ignored and denied. Truly Fox News tier.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/02/jeremy-lin-waives-off-kobe-bryant-in-game-kobe-loves-it/
By VahagnBy blackaceBy VahagnBy blackaceBy VahagnBy Jeff-DSABy reiloHoly shit, there's video of Kobe's quote, and it's way worse when you hear him say it: https://vine.co/v/O6hOL2IE3Zd
He claims that he's supposed to practice to get better but that his teammates can't help because they're so bad.
Cool guy, Kobe. They're all there for you. They're not supposed to be getting better themselves, right? You couldn't possibly help them improve, or is that asking too much?
What does helping them improve involve in your mind?
yelling cusswords at the gm for getting them immediately comes to mind
Right, because a 4 second clip where he's questioning their effort is the entirety of his interaction with players.
It might be representative of who he is in your mind. And it might also erase the tons of comments made by teammates this year alone about how Kobe's taken the time to watch film with them or give them nuances to improve their game in your mind as well.
But how does that change the overall objective narrative that has come out about him over 19 years. He'll spend tons of time on buses and planes and practice reviewing film and pulling guys aside one by one to give them insight. And he'll get super pissed and trash talk when he thinks his teammates aren't playing hard.
Right because this 4 second clip is the only negative news we have heard about Kobe and his teammates during his career.
Of course it's not. Kobe isn't acting brand new, he's been the same guy. That guy is an asshole - especially in practice - and especially if he doesn't like the effort. But that guy is also more willing to pull guys aside and watch film with them and give them pointers than anyone in LA in 20 years. He does it on practically every plane and bus ride they take.
So, once again. How does that 4 second video prove he doesn't care about helping his teammates get better.
FFS it's like saying Steve Jobs was an asshole. That's the end of the story. Move on folks.
It's even more hilarious that the SAME article has quotes representative of both aspects. And one aspect is cherry picked, one aspect is ignored and denied. Truly Fox News tier.
Outside of Trevor I can't think of one player who has gotten better within the Lakers circle..
And Kobe has been a douche you just said it, why are you arguing? lol
By blackaceBy VahagnBy blackaceBy VahagnBy blackaceBy VahagnBy Jeff-DSABy reiloHoly shit, there's video of Kobe's quote, and it's way worse when you hear him say it: https://vine.co/v/O6hOL2IE3Zd
He claims that he's supposed to practice to get better but that his teammates can't help because they're so bad.
Cool guy, Kobe. They're all there for you. They're not supposed to be getting better themselves, right? You couldn't possibly help them improve, or is that asking too much?
What does helping them improve involve in your mind?
yelling cusswords at the gm for getting them immediately comes to mind
Right, because a 4 second clip where he's questioning their effort is the entirety of his interaction with players.
It might be representative of who he is in your mind. And it might also erase the tons of comments made by teammates this year alone about how Kobe's taken the time to watch film with them or give them nuances to improve their game in your mind as well.
But how does that change the overall objective narrative that has come out about him over 19 years. He'll spend tons of time on buses and planes and practice reviewing film and pulling guys aside one by one to give them insight. And he'll get super pissed and trash talk when he thinks his teammates aren't playing hard.
Right because this 4 second clip is the only negative news we have heard about Kobe and his teammates during his career.
Of course it's not. Kobe isn't acting brand new, he's been the same guy. That guy is an asshole - especially in practice - and especially if he doesn't like the effort. But that guy is also more willing to pull guys aside and watch film with them and give them pointers than anyone in LA in 20 years. He does it on practically every plane and bus ride they take.
So, once again. How does that 4 second video prove he doesn't care about helping his teammates get better.
FFS it's like saying Steve Jobs was an asshole. That's the end of the story. Move on folks.
It's even more hilarious that the SAME article has quotes representative of both aspects. And one aspect is cherry picked, one aspect is ignored and denied. Truly Fox News tier.
Outside of Trevor I can't think of one player who has gotten better within the Lakers circle..
And Kobe has been a douche you just said it, why are you arguing? lol
Lamar, Pau, Sasha, Kwame, Farmar, Shannon Brown, Caron Butler, Fisher, Shaq. There are a bunch. I can name 30 easily but it's pointless.
http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/2010/02/caron-butler-grateful-he-was-kobe-bryant.html/
“I say that’s the best thing that ever could have happened for me personally for my career,” Butler said. “To play alongside a guy like that, see his preparation, see what it takes to get to that level, that’s why I was able to be so good in Washington because I took everything I learned from him under his wing.”
These stories are everywhere. They don't fit the narrative, so they're ignored. I'm just wondering why being attached to negativity about Kobe is so important for some guys around here.