By KingGondoNot playing out his twilight years on a shitty team as part of a shitty organization (that he helped to make shitty).I'm telling you it's going to end like Cartmanland. Gucci is going to be crying in a corner somewhere after having had his dream come true, only to lose it all.
Man, it would be devastating for that franchise if they lost LeBron and Love for nothing.
I guess that would even out their good fortune in the lottery the last 4 years.
By KingGondoI don't see an obvious place for him (maybe the Knicks? the Raps?) but the Cavs situation is already unraveling quickly.If there are certain retirements, the Spurs?
By TheIt's not those guys job to make them contenders, it's to protect the rim/rebound/play low post D, or pick 1 or 2 of them. Example: Does Steven Adams make OKC a contender? No, that's for Durant/Westbrook/Ibaka to do. However he plays a vital role by grabbing boards, playing D and drawing techs on opposing players.They just seem like an odd collection of parts. They have roleplayers, but they're all ancient. They have young talent, but they're either tweeners (Thompson) or headcases (Waiters).
Cavs just need a body (2 really) to play 15-20 minutes a night to protect the rim and mask Kevin Love's defensive deficiencies. Doesn't have to score, doesn't have to be a rugged rebounder.
Two of their best three players are one-way guys, and Bron isn't as spry (or as motivated as he used to be).
Maybe a garbage man inside will help them a lot, but I doubt it.
By ForeverI'm telling you it's going to end like Cartmanland. Gucci is going to be crying in a corner somewhere after having had his dream come true, only to lose it all.I've read this before. Cleveland is Faust.
By unknownLeBron will stay in Cleveland till he retires.
yep.... there is no greener grass out there. The cavs need to move some pieces for more defensive minded players and get a coach that can "motivate" lebron.....
If that corey brewer deal had gone through Lebron wouldn't be complaining.
LeBron going to new york
boom
i can see love be emo and leave if everyone blames him, why are some professional athletes huge babies, someone will always hate or criticize you
boom
i can see love be emo and leave if everyone blames him, why are some professional athletes huge babies, someone will always hate or criticize you
By ForeverBy KingGondoNot playing out his twilight years on a shitty team as part of a shitty organization (that he helped to make shitty).I'm telling you it's going to end like Cartmanland. Gucci is going to be crying in a corner somewhere after having had his dream come true, only to lose it all.
Man, it would be devastating for that franchise if they lost LeBron and Love for nothing.
I guess that would even out their good fortune in the lottery the last 4 years.By KingGondoI don't see an obvious place for him (maybe the Knicks? the Raps?) but the Cavs situation is already unraveling quickly.If there are certain retirements, the Spurs?
NO THANKS. Although it would be funny as hell to see all the attention that ESPN would give to San Antonio in that scenario.
By friskykillfaceLeBron going to new yorkLeaving a joke organization because they have no prospect of winning and no idea how to put themselves in position to win isn't being a "huge baby." It's being smart.
boom
i can see love be emo and leave if everyone blames him, why are some professional athletes huge babies, someone will always hate or criticize you
By etiolationThe Cavs have a lot of guys not playing defense and not known for defense. They have no size inside. It's not really hard to see why they aren't super awesome sauce.
The best healthy defender on the team after LeBron is Shawn Marion. And people wondered why I was dumbfounded that Cavs let Alonzo Gee walk.
By KingGondoBy friskykillfaceLeBron going to new yorkLeaving a joke organization because they have no prospect of winning and no idea how to put themselves in position to win isn't being a "huge baby." It's being smart.
boom
i can see love be emo and leave if everyone blames him, why are some professional athletes huge babies, someone will always hate or criticize you
it would have been alright if he didnt have his whole big spiel about teaching his kids to embrace challenges or whateverdafuk
he's not going anywhere.
KD2DC doe
By Darkit would have been alright if he didnt have his whole big spiel about teaching his kids to embrace challenges or whateverdafukPeople were like no way he'll cuckold his home town on national television. Then they were like no way he'll leave Miami after four straight finals. Then they were like no way he'll ditch Cleveland (again) after selling that sob story to the media.
he's not going anywhere.
You really think he gives a shit? Naw.
is nba live 14 $8.99 decent?
random but i see its that price at microsoft store and i did that trade 5 shitty games for $10 each trade in offer and i have $10 left over after dragon age and i need a basketball game
random but i see its that price at microsoft store and i did that trade 5 shitty games for $10 each trade in offer and i have $10 left over after dragon age and i need a basketball game
By The1) Miami wasn't great their first 2-3 months either, although their D was much better. It's a process that can be alleviated b y getting some defensive bigs.
Miami was 21-9 after December during his first year there. Cleveland wouldn't be a .500 team out West.
By reiloMiami was 21-9 after December during his first year there. Cleveland wouldn't be a .500 team out West.Excuse me, the 1st month or so then (remember they were like 8-8 or something)
By pilonv1http://instagram.com/p/xOEbxnq9mW/
mother of god
I'm going to laugh less at Kuroko's Basketball from now on.
RT @ChuckGarfien: Lost in Jimmy Butler's incredible season: He's committed only 41 turnovers playing the most minutes in NBA. LeBron James has 111.
O_o
O_o
By KingGondoBy spooksLeBron leaving would be hilarious after all his talk about process and patience.I think he's remembering why he left in the first place.
Not that he hasn't been part of the problem himself. So many of the Cavs roster moves have his fingerprints all over them.
He needs to go to a franchise that has a strong, competent front office for his own good.
Toronto would be my pick.
Lebron James leaving his home town for the Toronto Raptors is the storyline the NBA needs right now.
Biyombo getting the start. Al out FINALLY (been playing hurt my ass).
Lance back, Vonleh back.
Houston still about to do us dirty but I'm going to love seeing the team actually moving for once.
edit: wow. al is out "for the foreseeable future" according to the charlotte observer. he ded?
Lance back, Vonleh back.
Houston still about to do us dirty but I'm going to love seeing the team actually moving for once.
edit: wow. al is out "for the foreseeable future" according to the charlotte observer. he ded?
i usually don't give a shit about calling people out
but giri tried to rub it in my face when I raised the question of if Butler was going to get a max earlier this year
COMPLETELY laughed the thought off
but giri tried to rub it in my face when I raised the question of if Butler was going to get a max earlier this year
COMPLETELY laughed the thought off
By reiloDY, have you ever liked a player on your team for more than a season? lolPlenty of guys.
You just haven't seen Al play lately. Dude looks worse than Brand or Kaman but gets three times the touches.
By dy_nastyPlenty of guys.Maybe he really was playing hurt?
You just haven't seen Al play lately. Dude looks worse than Brand or Kaman but gets three times the touches.
By Foreverits possibleBy dy_nastyPlenty of guys.Maybe he really was playing hurt?
You just haven't seen Al play lately. Dude looks worse than Brand or Kaman but gets three times the touches.
but considering how overprotective of guys when it comes to injuries on this team, i really think that there's a lot more to it - if he was, or if he wasn't
either way, the way he's been handled this year shows the FO and coaching staff are lost when it comes to dealing with him.
By Darki usually don't give a shit about calling people outYour teams FO is gong to give Caron Butler the max and you're worried about calling me out?
but giri tried to rub it in my face when I raised the question of if Butler was going to get a max earlier this year
COMPLETELY laughed the thought off
OH, jimmy buttler.
Well, no one foresaw Buttler learning how to play offense. IIRC, those arguments were about "well klay has a lot of offensive holes and he got paid" which is still a stupid argument.
Buttler really could be the best 2 guard going around. Give it 2 years and i don't think it'll be a question if he keeps developing. Seriously, his season has been sorta nuts.
By giririsssmad/furiousBy Darki usually don't give a shit about calling people outYour teams FO is gong to give Caron Butler the max and you're worried about calling me out?
but giri tried to rub it in my face when I raised the question of if Butler was going to get a max earlier this year
COMPLETELY laughed the thought off
Listening to last week's BS Report podcast and Zach Lowe called Adams "untouchable" unless you're guaranteed to bring in a major piece.
I feel vindicated.
I feel vindicated.
By KingGondoListening to last week's BS Report podcast and Zach Lowe called Adams "untouchable" unless you're guaranteed to bring in a major piece.In context, he's right.
I feel vindicated.
in the real world, i'll trade you a bucket of poo.
By giririsssNot even I would say that James Harden for Mason Plumlee is a good trade.By KingGondoListening to last week's BS Report podcast and Zach Lowe called Adams "untouchable" unless you're guaranteed to bring in a major piece.In context, he's right.
I feel vindicated.
in the real world, i'll trade you a bucket of poo.
31 games in, Raps are on pace to have the best offence of all time:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tsl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=team_totals&lg_id=NBA&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&c1stat=off_rtg&c1comp=gt&c1val=115&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=off_rtg
1. 2014-2015 Toronto Raptors
2. 1986-1987 Los Angeles Lakers
3. 1991-1992 Chicago Bulls
4. 1987-1988 Boston Celtics
5. 2009-2010 Phoenix Suns
6. 1995-1996 Chicago Bulls
7. 1994-1995 Orlando Magic
Bet they won't have a single starter in the All Star game though.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tsl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=team_totals&lg_id=NBA&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&c1stat=off_rtg&c1comp=gt&c1val=115&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=off_rtg
1. 2014-2015 Toronto Raptors
2. 1986-1987 Los Angeles Lakers
3. 1991-1992 Chicago Bulls
4. 1987-1988 Boston Celtics
5. 2009-2010 Phoenix Suns
6. 1995-1996 Chicago Bulls
7. 1994-1995 Orlando Magic
Bet they won't have a single starter in the All Star game though.
By livefromkyoto31 games in, Raps are on pace to have the best offence of all time:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tsl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=team_totals&lg_id=NBA&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&c1stat=off_rtg&c1comp=gt&c1val=115&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=off_rtg
1. 2014-2015 Toronto Raptors
2. 1986-1987 Los Angeles Lakers
3. 1991-1992 Chicago Bulls
4. 1987-1988 Boston Celtics
5. 2009-2010 Phoenix Suns
6. 1995-1996 Chicago Bulls
7. 1994-1995 Orlando Magic
Bet they won't have a single starter in the All Star game though.
It's okay. Rajon Rondo has 25,000 more All-Star votes than Damian Lillard and Jeremy Lin has 5,000 votes less.
*itsallokayemoji*
If Wall and Wade stay atop of the starting guard spots in terms of votes in the East, then it's a huge boost for Lowrys chances at getting a coaches slot.
In this scenario, Kyrie eats rocks almost certainly, as does Rose. Teague unfortunately is probably the odd man out, and Butler and Lowry get the next two backup guard spots.
At least if all goes according to keikaku.
In this scenario, Kyrie eats rocks almost certainly, as does Rose. Teague unfortunately is probably the odd man out, and Butler and Lowry get the next two backup guard spots.
At least if all goes according to keikaku.
By reiloBy livefromkyoto31 games in, Raps are on pace to have the best offence of all time:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tsl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=team_totals&lg_id=NBA&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&c1stat=off_rtg&c1comp=gt&c1val=115&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=off_rtg
1. 2014-2015 Toronto Raptors
2. 1986-1987 Los Angeles Lakers
3. 1991-1992 Chicago Bulls
4. 1987-1988 Boston Celtics
5. 2009-2010 Phoenix Suns
6. 1995-1996 Chicago Bulls
7. 1994-1995 Orlando Magic
Bet they won't have a single starter in the All Star game though.
It's okay. Rajon Rondo has 25,000 more All-Star votes than Damian Lillard and Jeremy Lin has 5,000 votes less.
*itsallokayemoji*
Honestly, if it weren't for you posting in these threads the only thing I would know about the Trailblazers from following the media is that they have black uniforms and that one guy who was drafted after Bargnani that didn't suck or retire early.
By livefromkyotoHonestly, if it weren't for you posting in these threads the only thing I would know about the Trailblazers from following the media is that they have black uniforms and that one guy who was drafted after Bargnani that didn't suck or retire early.
It's weird because Damian has been... everywhere? His series clinching three versus the Rockets was a big fucking deal, he appeared in every All-Star event, he's on the cover of a videogame (albeit a shitty one, but still exposure), he's got an exclusive shoe deal worth $100mil, he's in Footlocker commercials, he's in State Farm commercials next to Curry and Chris Paul, yet, arguably the worst starting point-guard in the league has 25,000 more votes and Rondo played less than 70 games in two seasons due to a torn ACL on some really shitty teams.
And Jeremy fucking Lin? I don't even know.
I also can't explain Lowry's lack of votes, he's in a ginormous fucking market and arguably the best guard in the entire conference on a really good team.
/shrug
http://nypost.com/2014/12/30/hollins-knows-the-nets-player-combos-that-just-wont-work/
Send Deron back to Corbin. You know you want him etoilation.
Talks broke down in part because the Nets were adamantly opposed to moving Plumlee in any deal, which isn’t going to change. The Nets also were interested in acquiring rookie guard Nik Stauskas in such a deal, whom the Kings were hesitant to part with.At least that makes one of us.
Despite the fact there isn’t much happening at the moment, one person who sounded quite happy with the possibility of such a trade was Kings interim coach Tyrone Corbin.
“You know, during the course of the season, you go through some peaks and valleys,” Corbin said. “He’s still a quality player in this league. I thought he was having a better year than last year during the early part of this year, and now he’s banged up a little bit.
“But I still love the player, man. He’ll work his way back into it and he’ll be the player he’s been in this league. I don’t think we can afford to relax on him at all. He’s a great player and can turn it on at any time.”
Send Deron back to Corbin. You know you want him etoilation.
RT @JayChillinBro: Lmao RT @d_weezy: Why dude all swole in his avi and on HuffPost looking like he has 3 T cells left? http://t.co/rmVyr7lsRQ
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http://www.si.com/nba/2014/12/30/nba-all-star-voting-lebron-james-stephen-curry-anthony-davis
Most interesting thing about this article is that the NBA's new online voting is ranking players on its list via PIE and only those with enough games played.
The question being whether Marc Gasol being high in votes for the first time ever has to do with smarter fans or the way his name sits atop the list while guys like Durant and Cousins aren't even on the list.
Most interesting thing about this article is that the NBA's new online voting is ranking players on its list via PIE and only those with enough games played.
The question being whether Marc Gasol being high in votes for the first time ever has to do with smarter fans or the way his name sits atop the list while guys like Durant and Cousins aren't even on the list.
Rumblings about a Lopez trade being likely, I don't know where to. Plenty of teams desperate for a quality big.
Charlotte? Cleveland? Those would be my guesses.
Charlotte? Cleveland? Those would be my guesses.
By Foreverhttp://nypost.com/2014/12/30/hollins-knows-the-nets-player-combos-that-just-wont-work/Talks broke down in part because the Nets were adamantly opposed to moving Plumlee in any deal, which isn’t going to change. The Nets also were interested in acquiring rookie guard Nik Stauskas in such a deal, whom the Kings were hesitant to part with.At least that makes one of us.
Despite the fact there isn’t much happening at the moment, one person who sounded quite happy with the possibility of such a trade was Kings interim coach Tyrone Corbin.
“You know, during the course of the season, you go through some peaks and valleys,” Corbin said. “He’s still a quality player in this league. I thought he was having a better year than last year during the early part of this year, and now he’s banged up a little bit.
“But I still love the player, man. He’ll work his way back into it and he’ll be the player he’s been in this league. I don’t think we can afford to relax on him at all. He’s a great player and can turn it on at any time.”
Send Deron back to Corbin. You know you want him etoilation.
Not if it involves trading Darren for him.
I would trade Stauskas if it meant getting Plumlee. That's not a hard choice. I like Nik, but guards are plentiful. Of course, Nets aren't moving Plumdog and Vivek wouldn't give up his Stauskas darling.
So I don't know how Nets move their contracts. Deron's is just such a long money commitment.
By ForeverRumblings about a Lopez trade being likely, I don't know where to. Plenty of teams desperate for a quality big.
Charlotte? Cleveland? Those would be my guesses.
Pick your Poison
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=p37hulv
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=p8ljgqj
By etiolationSo I don't know how Nets move their contracts. Deron's is just such a long money commitment.There's a real chance we move nothing. When everyone is healthy Lopez would be our offensive wrecking ball off the bench and he could carry the second unit. Deron will be back in the starting lineup. We could probably swing a 5 or 6 seed with that unless there are more injuries.
Again though I'm hearing that Lopez is likely to be moved. He's the youngest, his contract is the smallest, and centers are in high demand right now.
By etiolationPick your PoisonLopez is awful at running the floor Vivek will want no part of that.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=p37hulv
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=p8ljgqj
I used to want Waiters but he has looked cancerous lately. If it's the Cavs we better be getting more than that.
By reiloBy livefromkyotoHonestly, if it weren't for you posting in these threads the only thing I would know about the Trailblazers from following the media is that they have black uniforms and that one guy who was drafted after Bargnani that didn't suck or retire early.
It's weird because Damian has been… everywhere? His series clinching three versus the Rockets was a big fucking deal, he appeared in every All-Star event, he's on the cover of a videogame (albeit a shitty one, but still exposure), he's got an exclusive shoe deal worth $100mil, he's in Footlocker commercials, he's in State Farm commercials next to Curry and Chris Paul, yet, arguably the worst starting point-guard in the league has 25,000 more votes and Rondo played less than 70 games in two seasons due to a torn ACL on some really shitty teams.
And Jeremy fucking Lin? I don't even know.
I also can't explain Lowry's lack of votes, he's in a ginormous fucking market and arguably the best guard in the entire conference on a really good team.
/shrug
By Branduil
Rondo has never been the alpha dog on a good NBA offense. The C’s have scored at a worse rate with Rondo on the floor for three years running, and they were generally mediocre even at their championship peak. He’s shooting 41 percent this season and a laughable 12-of-36 from the foul line. His turnovers are through the roof, and a disturbing number of them have been unforced. Rondo has coughed up the ball on 32 percent of the pick-and-rolls he has finished this season, the worst rate among all 85 players who have run at least 50 such plays, per Synergy Sports. Dead stinking last.
By reiloNot that I put much stock in them, but Rondo's on/off numbers were quite good when the Celtics were actually a good team. Small sample size but the same has been true for the Mavs so far.By BranduilRondo has never been the alpha dog on a good NBA offense. The C’s have scored at a worse rate with Rondo on the floor for three years running, and they were generally mediocre even at their championship peak. He’s shooting 41 percent this season and a laughable 12-of-36 from the foul line. His turnovers are through the roof, and a disturbing number of them have been unforced. Rondo has coughed up the ball on 32 percent of the pick-and-rolls he has finished this season, the worst rate among all 85 players who have run at least 50 such plays, per Synergy Sports. Dead stinking last.
Anyway I'm not sure how you can seriously suggest Rondo is the worst starting PG in the entire league when Brandon Jennings, Mario Chalmers, Trey Burke, Jeremy Lin, etc. are a thing.
By BranduilNot that I put much stock in them, but Rondo's on/off numbers were quite good when the Celtics were actually a good team. Small sample size but the same has been true for the Mavs so far.
Anyway I'm not sure how you can seriously suggest Rondo is the worst starting PG in the entire league when Brandon Jennings, Mario Chalmers, Trey Burke, Jeremy Lin, etc. are a thing.
He's arguably as bad as those guys. To say he's clearly better is delusional. He hasn't been for at least two years. Part of that is he's still recovering from his ACL injury, but he's been bad.
By reiloI've watched the Mavs try to run out guys like Mike James and Jameer Nelson in the last few years and claim they're starting point guards. I know what league-worst starting PGs look like, and Rondo is not close to that.By BranduilNot that I put much stock in them, but Rondo's on/off numbers were quite good when the Celtics were actually a good team. Small sample size but the same has been true for the Mavs so far.
Anyway I'm not sure how you can seriously suggest Rondo is the worst starting PG in the entire league when Brandon Jennings, Mario Chalmers, Trey Burke, Jeremy Lin, etc. are a thing.
He's arguably as bad as those guys. To say he's clearly better is delusional. He hasn't been for at least two years. Part of that is he's still recovering from his ACL injury, but he's been bad.