pls no
let the pink haired dynamo live. instead, buff other tanks into usefulness so there are more viable options.
let the pink haired dynamo live. instead, buff other tanks into usefulness so there are more viable options.
but the laws of nerfing and buffing states that if characters are useless, you nerf the ones that are useful down to their level.
By Rob Go To Postbut the laws of nerfing and buffing states that if characters are useless, you nerf the ones that are useful down to their level.The worst part is this is how they balanced SC2.
Literally just kept nerfing everything until there was nothing left to nerf leaving a horribly bland product.
Thankfully Ana wasn't nerfed too hard. I enjoy playing her as support, coming in with that clutch sleep dart.
By data Go To PostLosing horribly, sole support switches from Zen to LucioJoined a game earlier today where the team was getting roled hard. 7 minutes left to get 20m. Played lucio, won the game. (Was just a QP).
suddenly winning
By giririsss Go To PostThe worst part is this is how they balanced SC2.
Literally just kept nerfing everything until there was nothing left to nerf leaving a horribly bland product.
As you know, Icefrog buffs weak heroes until they are no longer useless.
With Heroes of the Storm, Blizz should know that this is the way.
By Rob Go To PostThankfully Ana wasn't nerfed too hard. I enjoy playing her as support, coming in with that clutch sleep dart.I think she's done in competitive. Slowing down the ult means the 3/3 comp is much less efficient.
She was a clear 3rd in my book, when it comes to healers, now she's less useful.
You're not gonna feel that ana nerf much at all if you're actually a good Ana--she recharges so fast as is
By Gabyskra Go To PostI think she's done in competitive. Slowing down the ult means the 3/3 comp is much less efficient.
She was a clear 3rd in my book, when it comes to healers, now she's less useful.
I think that comp can still work but it's not something that can just be used by every team now. Kind of like when Valve nerfed the AWP, you saw all these scrubs who were looked at as "great" AWPers like SmithZz becoming extremely irrelevant.
There won't be "oh man, we keep losing to the 3/3 setup, better run it ourselves." Hopefully now it should be "oh man, we keep losing to 3/3, lets find a counter"
By data Go To PostLosing horribly, sole support switches from Zen to Lucio
suddenly winning
If you have to have one heal, Zen ain't it lol
By Trey Go To PostIf you have to have one heal, Zen ain't it lolI'd switch to Lucio but something tells me nobody is gonna replace Reinhardt fort me
got tired of playing this--too often forced into roles I didn't want to play because of how strict the meta is right now
By Dark PhaZe Go To Postgot tired of playing this–too often forced into roles I didn't want to play because of how strict the meta is right nowWhat makes it worse is you can't even ask someone to play a different character because you're not comfortable with the options left. Instead of having the best opportunity to win that person wants to care about their stats like they matter at all in this game.
I normally don't have this problem since I moved over to tank/support in competitive but it has happened a few times. Other day had people complaining I wasn't doing damage, no shit, there's a reason I asked to play tank or support. (I have an 18% winning rate playing dps characters)
By Tea Go To PostI thought the D.va buff was unnecessary af but people disagreed.What buff? No change for DVa. And the last time she got a nerf.
By Tea Go To PostI thought the D.va buff was unnecessary af but people disagreed.If you are talking about the change to her Defense Matrix, it was absolutely needed in order for her to still kinda-sorta fit the Tank role. Before that, she was an extremely shitty fusion of Reaper and Genji.
She was a highly played, but terribly ineffective character before that buff.
By Trey Go To PostDva gets smoked by zarya. Probably all the zarya nerf calls are coming from dva mains.Yeah, Zarya is a good counter, she has to be distracted by others otherwise DVa is screwed. I'm okay with having a counter to DVa anyway.
By Trey Go To PostDva gets smoked by zarya. Probably all the zarya nerf calls are coming from dva mains.Most people get smoked by Zarya
That's kind of the problem. Zarya has almost no counterplay. Reaper is the closest thing and Reaper's not great at it. I don't think her near 100% pickrate in all game modes is because of Dva mains. If the meta changes, Zarya is still there because her bubbles and ult and damage are way too good. Like dude, she's in EVERY game on both teams now. On any game I play. I see her more than Genji.
There's actually a lot of counters to Zarya now. Zens job is to hold ult for a big push or to counter a Zarya play. A good zen counters Zarya's effectiveness really well. Ana's grenade into the middle of the singularity with a lucio and pump healing negates a lot.
In terms of her general abilities, she puts out what you give her. Smart targeting and pressure should stop her from having a shield in her side pocket at all times, and people should understand not to get within her effective range or keep pounding shielded enemies just to give her a boost. She's just really strong against undisciplined poor offense teams because those teams can't counter graviton and they aren't good enough offensively to keep her from always having her shields up
I don't follow the pro scene that much, but I'm always surprised when I hear how low mei is on the totem pole. I've seen Mei's destroy games so much more often than I've seen McRees do so for example. Her zoning skills, tank canceling abilities and her huge area of effect ult to setup combos just seems like it would be a must at the highest level. A Mei/Zarya/Zen /Lucio/DPS/TANK would seem ideal to me.
In terms of her general abilities, she puts out what you give her. Smart targeting and pressure should stop her from having a shield in her side pocket at all times, and people should understand not to get within her effective range or keep pounding shielded enemies just to give her a boost. She's just really strong against undisciplined poor offense teams because those teams can't counter graviton and they aren't good enough offensively to keep her from always having her shields up
I don't follow the pro scene that much, but I'm always surprised when I hear how low mei is on the totem pole. I've seen Mei's destroy games so much more often than I've seen McRees do so for example. Her zoning skills, tank canceling abilities and her huge area of effect ult to setup combos just seems like it would be a must at the highest level. A Mei/Zarya/Zen /Lucio/DPS/TANK would seem ideal to me.
Pro scene is completely different. Zarya is good at all levels though, which apparently means nerf her to some people.
The problem isn't zarya, the problem is the other tanks aren't as strong. Zarya herself is well balanced.
Rein is almost as ubiquitous - and potentiality dangerous - as zarya, and no one is crying about him because most only notice his shield and an occasional earth shatter.
The problem isn't zarya, the problem is the other tanks aren't as strong. Zarya herself is well balanced.
Rein is almost as ubiquitous - and potentiality dangerous - as zarya, and no one is crying about him because most only notice his shield and an occasional earth shatter.
Well, the problem there is Reinhardt is just as good on Payload
Zarya is just as good on Payload AND KOTH. There is never a time not to bring Zarya.
Zarya is just as good on Payload AND KOTH. There is never a time not to bring Zarya.
By Kibner Go To PostAnd D.Va can just straight up eat Zarya's ult with an ability that is almost always at the ready.It does not. Zarya's beam goes through the matrix and it's impossible to cover all your teammates who are stuck from all the fire.
By Dark PhaZe Go To PostI don't follow the pro scene that much, but I'm always surprised when I hear how low mei is on the totem pole. I've seen Mei's destroy games so much more often than I've seen McRees do so for example.
Because in the pro-scene they are disciplined with movement / spacing and focusing DPS. In the pro scene you never get to left click with Mei. It's al ways right click. Which makes it slower to build up your ult.
Wall is really great, but you're not really going to be able to separate groups. They're much more disciplined.
And so it comes down to who can do more in the given spot. As a mid distance sniper, McCree is MUCH more useful. His stun is also useful at stopping a dive as well as taking out a tank.
Mei's ult is definitely better, But McCree's does create space, it's not useless.
By Gabyskra Go To PostIt does not. Zarya's beam goes through the matrix and it's impossible to cover all your teammates who are stuck from all the fire.That's what makes zarya really good vs d.va'. Her left click beam doesn't get stopped by defense matrix.
Every complaint i've seen about D.va recently has been largely based on people who have put no thought into how to beat her.
Junkrat can really destroy a D.va.
Dva's hitbox is basically designed to say 'please kill me Hanzo'
that opening between her legs is scatter arrow city
that opening between her legs is scatter arrow city
By giririsss Go To PostJunkrat can really destroy a D.va.Nah. Time your matrix right, move well and he has zero chance.
Same with Hanzo. Just time the matrix.
By Gabyskra Go To PostNah. Time your matrix right, move well and he has zero chance.Except i don't mean direct hits. The splash is killer. Because I believe it's not affected by "armour" so there's no reduction like there is for projectiles. So it can just chew threw her health bar like butter even with out directs.
Same with Hanzo. Just time the matrix.
By Gabyskra Go To PostNah. Time your matrix right, move well and he has zero chance.If DVa is looking at Hanzo and Hanzo is looking at DVa, someone messed up
Same with Hanzo. Just time the matrix.
By data Go To PostIf DVa is looking at Hanzo and Hanzo is looking at DVa, someone messed upDVa might be the most mobile character in the game. She should chase squishies, she's not Rein.
By Gabyskra Go To PostIt does not. Zarya's beam goes through the matrix and it's impossible to cover all your teammates who are stuck from all the fire.No, it eats the actual ult. As in, it disappears. I'm not talking about her left click or anything, but the graviton surge or whatever her ult is called.
I've had a couple eaten before. :(
By Gabyskra Go To PostDVa might be the most mobile character in the game. She should chase squishies, she's not Rein.
Yeah. As a second tank she's amazing for her mobility. Your team getting dumped on by a hanzo or someone that's in a tough spot? D.va. She should also be great at forcing mercy to shit the bed and run away.
It's why i love seeing D.va on maps like volskya / hanamura. Really great at getting the defending team to bend backwards and give up the choke.
By Kibner Go To PostNo, it eats the actual ult. As in, it disappears. I'm not talking about her left click or anything, but the graviton surge or whatever her ult is called.
I've had a couple eaten before. :(
Oh. Yeah, she can do that. Always brutal when that happens.
I just realized that win %/records are fucked because of the way the game somehow counts them. I'm 2-0 with Sym at a 95% winning rate. I've used her way more than 2 times, especially since I just picked her last night and we got destroyed on Kings Row
By Rob Go To PostI just realized that win %/records are fucked because of the way the game somehow counts them. I'm 2-0 with Sym at a 95% winning rate. I've used her way more than 2 times, especially since I just picked her last night and we got destroyed on Kings RowThey're split also, QP/Comp are different.
By giririsss Go To PostThey're split also, QP/Comp are different.II was looking at my season 2 stats
I had a rare encounter with a pro tier sniper who was defending Gibraltar. I'm talking she ended the game with 5 gold medals or something.
After taking the L, I realized that I should have picked D.Va.
After taking the L, I realized that I should have picked D.Va.
Reminds me of a game where an Ana and Widowmaker were absolutely taking our souls on Kings Row
I'm like nigga get the FUCK off of roadhog and go winston and clean up those snipes
but nah bad comps, I was lucio, rekt
I'm like nigga get the FUCK off of roadhog and go winston and clean up those snipes
but nah bad comps, I was lucio, rekt
By Dark PhaZe Go To PostReminds me of a game where an Ana and Widowmaker were absolutely taking our souls on Kings RowIf you're gettin rekt like that you're better off switcching off
I'm like nigga get the FUCK off of roadhog and go winston and clean up those snipes
but nah bad comps, I was lucio, rekt
not like you're going to do anything anyway
And i'm ALWYA dubious when a widow is popping off that many shots. The amount of bots is ridic. And Blizz are pretty far behind.
What level is everyone else here? I think I like the Pharah, i think because its been a while since I played an FPS my aiming is horrible so rocket launchers are slightly easier.
Baston and Roadhog are my pet peeves. I hate those guys.
Baston and Roadhog are my pet peeves. I hate those guys.
This Widowmaker had an uncanny sense of anticipation. Hardly tracked directly on targets (me...according to the kill cam) but would aim where ppl were headed and fire.
By Phoenix RISING Go To PostThis Widowmaker had an uncanny sense of anticipation. Hardly tracked directly on targets (me…according to the kill cam) but would aim where ppl were headed and fire.A long, long time ago, I used to be an admin of a CS 1.6 server. I often had to spectate players in first-person mode and determine if they were cheating or not. Observing lots of wallhackers actually improved my ability to predict hidden player movement.
It's also really hard to tell between legit skill and wallhacking if the player is smart about it.
Just once I would like to get a Pharah on my team that isn't complete shit. No Pharah counters on the other team and yet my Pharah still can't even deal with a fucking Junkrat.
edit - and yet again Pharah is the bane of my fucking existence. idk what it is but anytime there's an enemy pharah my team just decides to pick the heroes that are worst against her.
I've been picking Widowmaker bc I'm tired of losing to pharahs, if you look at all my posts that's probably the only thing I ever bitch about it. Went welll for the first 3 matches (won them all easily) but then everyone at night turns into a little bitch and cries when I pick her. So I switch, and then we get bodied by Pharah and they all complain about the Pharah no one is killing
gee, if only we had a counter to pharah, like i don't know, a widowmaker. as a bonus they could pick off supports so the rest of the enemy team has no healing, but nope. pro teams don't use widowmaker anymore therefore she's not allowed to be picked in pugs
edit - and yet again Pharah is the bane of my fucking existence. idk what it is but anytime there's an enemy pharah my team just decides to pick the heroes that are worst against her.
I've been picking Widowmaker bc I'm tired of losing to pharahs, if you look at all my posts that's probably the only thing I ever bitch about it. Went welll for the first 3 matches (won them all easily) but then everyone at night turns into a little bitch and cries when I pick her. So I switch, and then we get bodied by Pharah and they all complain about the Pharah no one is killing
gee, if only we had a counter to pharah, like i don't know, a widowmaker. as a bonus they could pick off supports so the rest of the enemy team has no healing, but nope. pro teams don't use widowmaker anymore therefore she's not allowed to be picked in pugs