not to take the thread off rails, but i can't stand the whole 'gotcha! you're an uncle tom!' shit attached to the black lives matter/all lives matter thing
there is no way that you can or should be able to discredit someone's entire resume so cheaply
there is no way that you can or should be able to discredit someone's entire resume so cheaply
By DY_nasty Go To Postnot to take the thread off rails, but i can't stand the whole 'gotcha! you're an uncle tom!' shit attached to the black lives matter/all lives matter thingThis...
there is no way that you can or should be able to discredit someone's entire resume so cheaply
I actually think ALL lives do matter...
Just that blacks have been systematically hunted, harassed and murdered forever
The problem is people take these slogans at face value and sometimes to get everything working you gotta let people know you don't pop bottles when police kill white people or whatever...
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I don't know why it's hard for some to see that others will hear "black lives matter" as a poorly phrased slogan that many people will reply to with "duh, of course they do, all lives matter".
By etiolation Go To PostI don't know why it's hard for some to see that others will hear "black lives matter" as a poorly phrased slogan that many people will reply to with "duh, of course they do, all lives matter".
I'm not sure Black Lives Matter is a bullet proof slogan. (uhh... horrible pun not intended)
But All Lives Matter as a reply means you didn't really look at what the movement is about, you just got all up on your soap box and aren't addressing the issue that they're raising.
Yes, as everyone has said, All Lives DO Matter. But it's Black Lives that are being ok'd by a system.
So yes, if you reply ALM out of ignorance, then you're just being ignorant. If you reply ALM not out of ignorance then you've got some explaining to do.
By etiolation Go To PostI don't know why it's hard for some to see that others will hear "black lives matter" as a poorly phrased slogan that many people will reply to with "duh, of course they do, all lives matter".Because it's kinda like responding to Breast Cancer awareness with duh, all cancers are bad...
you would like to think that more people are smarter than that
I think it's less about intelligence and more about someone's willingness to step outside their perspective and engage in some empathetic thinking. There are plenty of individuals who are smart and just don't give a shit about the plight of others or actively engage in discrimination themselves.
By blackace Go To PostBecause it's kinda like responding to Breast Cancer awareness with duh, all cancers are bad…
you would like to think that more people are smarter than that
It's the responsibility of the person sending the message to send a message that is somewhat clear to its meaning. BLM as a message on its own doesn't do that. To assume the greater, wider populace on the outside to be as knee deep in the hashtag, online movement that would explain the message is ridiculous and telling of a sort of insularity that oddly many accuse outsiders of having.
People are different age groups and different walks of life. Not everyone is going to be in the sphere that produces a hashtag. It's the messiness of hashtags. The problem being that nothing about the phrase directly links to police violence, police firearm use or its particular impact in black communities.
For example, I was trying to lose weight and get healthier. I looked up some diet tips. I found that a diet of nuts, seeds and various legumes are healthy, filling and help me lose weight. So I do this, I exercise, etc. It works nicely enough, I share it online, start a trend among friends. We talk about our experiences with the plan and diet, and so on. We then seek to spread the idea.
But for some terrible and odd internet reason, we come up with the hashtag #NutsInMyPoop because it makes us laugh. Now that would sense, with regards to the diet, but it doesn't make anyone think of weight loss.
Eh.
In any social movement you're going to have whataboutism regardless of how clear the message is and how ubiquitous the problem.
In any social movement you're going to have whataboutism regardless of how clear the message is and how ubiquitous the problem.
How is black lives matter different than Breast Cancer awareness in message? It has nothing to do with hashtags
It's always ironic how people will write essays and spend a lot of time unloading why "BLM" is a bad or unclear message. Just wholly going out of their way to waste time on why it's a bad slogan, time that could easily be spent looking into the problem instead. But that's just it, social movements aren't going to cater to people who are already on the defensive and nothing they can do will really fix that. Admonishing them for not making their movement palatable to those who are okay with the status quo or don't want to go there is concern trolling at its finest.
By Tea Go To PostIt's always ironic how people will write essays and spend a lot of time unloading why "BLM" is a bad or unclear message. Just wholly going out of their way to waste time on why it's a bad slogan, time that could easily be spent looking into the problem instead. But that's just it, social movements aren't going to cater to people who are already on the defensive and nothing they can do will really fix that. Admonishing them for not making their movement palatable to those who are okay with the status quo or don't want to go there is concern trolling at its finest.Right?
It's true that maybe BLM should have been named BLMT (Too) so people wouldn't have the excuse to say that they are placing black lives above others... but even after it's explained they go right back to it, so pretty sure the name doesn't matter
By Tea Go To PostIt's always ironic how people will write essays and spend a lot of time unloading why "BLM" is a bad or unclear message. Just wholly going out of their way to waste time on why it's a bad slogan, time that could easily be spent looking into the problem instead. But that's just it, social movements aren't going to cater to people who are already on the defensive and nothing they can do will really fix that. Admonishing them for not making their movement palatable to those who are okay with the status quo or don't want to go there is concern trolling at its finest.Its dumb as hell how people can use the overall messiness of the slogan to slander guys who've spent decades giving back and helping communities in an instant.
That can't possibly be the right response, but yet here we are - watching guys who've given millions to charities of all kinds get labeled uncle toms for tightroping during an interview.
By etiolation Go To PostIt's the responsibility of the person sending the message to send a message that is somewhat clear to its meaning. BLM as a message on its own doesn't do that. To assume the greater, wider populace on the outside to be as knee deep in the hashtag, online movement that would explain the message is ridiculous and telling of a sort of insularity that oddly many accuse outsiders of having.
People are different age groups and different walks of life. Not everyone is going to be in the sphere that produces a hashtag. It's the messiness of hashtags. The problem being that nothing about the phrase directly links to police violence, police firearm use or its particular impact in black communities.
It's almost always attached to stories about cops shooting black people. If someone can't figure out what that means, they're pretty dense tbh.
I have a hard time believing people can't figure out what's driving the hashtag, and a much easier time believing some people take the movement as an implicit accusation and shift into post-racial mode to try and deflect an underlying sense of white guilt.
The other part of it is that BLM is purposefully confrontational to get attention for their cause. That's naturally going to rub some people, even well-meaning ones, the wrong way. #AllLivesMatter type responses can be one way to try and say "don't be like that" without losing moral ground, though it only flies in certain circles.
Fits better in the NFL thread, but pertinent to the discussion in this one: https://theringer.com/colin-kaepernick-protest-biracial-kids-f982eacc740f#.7x10bai1a
on a positive note it lessens the risk of being injured for the season.
only because he avoids the games.
only because he avoids the games.
By Face it Tiger.. Go To Poston a positive note it lessens the risk of being injured for the season.
only because he avoids the games.
Really?
By blackace Go To PostReally?
sorry I just really dislike the Idea of an oft-injured Pelicans team again.
I wish the best for Jrue and his girl though.
By Face it Tiger.. Go To Postsorry I just really dislike the Idea of an oft-injured Pelicans team again.but really?
I wish the best for Jrue and his girl though.
By diehard Go To PostI'm so white that when i see BLM i still think Bureau of Land Management.
I'm black and I think Ammon Bundy's religious ideology creeping into American consciousness but that's for another post....
Until Lauren Holiday recovers, the Pels starting pg will be one of Tim Frazier, E'Twaun Moore, or Langston Galloway. I might be wrong about the positions those guys actually can play but I refuse to believe Norris Cole is still on the team.
By Kibner Go To PostUntil Lauren Holiday recovers, the Pels starting pg will be one of Tim Frazier, E'Twaun Moore, or Langston Galloway. I might be wrong about the positions those guys actually can play but I refuse to believe Norris Cole is still on the team.That's just bad
Pels are in such a weird space that they really haven't been able to put a good roster around Davis despite a few "win now" moves. But it's also hard to attract guys straight up in FA if Davis is never healthy enough to attract attention.
By giririsss Go To PostPels are in such a weird space that they really haven't been able to put a good roster around Davis despite a few "win now" moves. But it's also hard to attract guys straight up in FA if Davis is never healthy enough to attract attention.The general idea of "young vets" is a good one, imo, but the execution was flawed. That RoLo trade to create cap room to sign Tyreke just cascaded down into other issues.
By Kibner Go To PostThe general idea of "young vets" is a good one, imo, but the execution was flawed. That RoLo trade to create cap room to sign Tyreke just cascaded down into other issues.Thing is, Davis is one more good injury (missing 30 games) away from being bit of a long term gamble for anyteam other than the Pels. Like at that point he'll have racked up quite a LOT of missed games in his career. And he'll be after a true max too.
Not saying he's not a max player, when healthy. He is. But he's averaging about 20 missed games a year.
By blackace Go To Posteven if he missed another 20+ games he is hardly a gamble for almost ANY teamYou reckon?
His development seems to have been stalled/slowed and his strength and conditioning, while better, aren't as far along as they should be.
To put it into perspective, he's missed more games than Curry during their first 4 seasons.
I think it's a legitimate concern.
He's an instant max from the Pels point of view. But ... I'd want a really thorough physical done if he was traded for. And out right signing you don't get that luxury I believe.
Obviously a max level talent. No point in being that if you're not doing anything with it in your suit.
I don't know about stalled... he added legit 3 pt range last season... stayed at 24 ppg and is a legit double double...
Today who is a better PF than AD?
even missing 1/4 or the season
Today who is a better PF than AD?
even missing 1/4 or the season
By blackace Go To PostI don't know about stalled… he added legit 3 pt range last season… stayed at 24 ppg and is a legit double double…Hardly legit 3pt range. .324 on 1.8 attempts is a bad percentage on a tiny sample. There's a few caveat's i guess about the attention he'll be getting.
Today who is a better PF than AD?
even missing 1/4 or the season
LMA. Bosh (if not dead, but same caveat for Davis).
He'd make any top5 list for that position though*.
*Until the bending happens.
By blackace Go To PostI don't know about stalled… he added legit 3 pt range last season… stayed at 24 ppg and is a legit double double…Griffin and Bosh would be the only ones in consideration, imo.
Today who is a better PF than AD?
even missing 1/4 or the season
I think Aldridge is extremely overrated, though. Might be because I just look at him through David West-tinted glasses.
By giririsss Go To PostHardly legit 3pt range. .324 on 1.8 attempts is a bad percentage on a tiny sample. There's a few caveat's i guess about the attention he'll be getting.LMA. Bosh (if not dead, but same caveat for Davis). He'd make any top5 list for that position though*.*Until the bending happens.a pf who can dribble dribble drive like AD shooting 33 percent from 3 is a threat...he shots better than YNot from 3 and I would bet on him getting more comfortable with it
LMA? please... he reverted back to his soft ways plus if we knocking AD for missing chunks of seasons
By blackace Go To Posta pf who can dribble dribble drive like AD shooting 33 percent from 3 is a threat…he shots better than YNot from 3 and I would bet on him getting more comfortable with itRight, but YNB is a bad 3pt shooter. And has been for a while. Not sure that's a great baseline.
LMA? please… he reverted back to his soft ways plus if we knocking AD for missing chunks of seasons
LMA missed only about 12 games in 4 seasons in 07,08,09,10. IN PORTLAND. AS A BIG MAN.
He's been worse lately.
But LMA's first contract was also not a Max. Despite putting up really good numbers.
By blackace Go To PostLMA didn't put up AD type numbers until his 6th year in the league…The more remarkable thing is that Davis is doing it on a better eFG%.
By giririsss Go To PostThe more remarkable thing is that Davis is doing it on a better eFG%.granted he doing it on 60 games but yeah he a beast
By DY_nasty Go To Postnot to take the thread off rails, but i can't stand the whole 'gotcha! you're an uncle tom!' shit attached to the black lives matter/all lives matter thingWhy not?
there is no way that you can or should be able to discredit someone's entire resume so cheaply
No shit they all matter. That's the whole reason black lives matter exist, because some people don't seem to grasp that concept. All lives matter except the people we bomb in the middle east every day, or the refugees everyone wants to send back to their shitholes that they ran from in the first place. All lives matter except the people cops murder every day and get off free because they have a difficult job. All lives matter except women like the Stanford girl who get raped while the rapist gets 3 months in prison because more than that would be too rough on him
No lives matter except straight white christian males so fuck anyone that says ALM, Uncle Tom or not.
By Rob Go To PostWhy not?I get you, but does that invalidate years of community work and hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars put towards charity?
No shit they all matter. That's the whole reason black lives matter exist, because some people don't seem to grasp that concept. All lives matter except the people we bomb in the middle east every day, or the refugees everyone wants to send back to their shitholes that they ran from in the first place. All lives matter except the people cops murder every day and get off free because they have a difficult job. All lives matter except women like the Stanford girl who get raped while the rapist gets 3 months in prison because more than that would be too rough on him
No lives matter except straight white christian males so fuck anyone that says ALM, Uncle Tom or not.
That can't possibly be the intent - to have people who never signed up to be community leaders or public speakers on such a topic (but yet still volunteer and give away piles of money for what's basically the same cause) get slammed just so social media warriors can recite talking points whenever someone doesn't say the right thing word for word. People are too quick and way too happy or proud to tear down people who have established resumes of building up communities at every stage of their career.
What exactly is the gain there? At some point, people need to realize that tarring and feathering guys for their response to the 'question' is really counter-intuitive.
"I'll say this, and I mean this," Riley told the South Florida Sun Sentinel recently. "Shaq's acquisition was bigger than any acquisition that we ever made, including the Big Three."🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
By reilo Go To Post🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄hard to flat out say he is wrong... I think them getting Shaq instantly made them a legit franchise again and a place for LBJ to want to go
I agree with Riley. Shaq made them a legit threat and took a shitton of pressure off a growing Dwyane Wade. They don't get to the Finals without him.
I want my cursed team to play. Maybe this season will be like '06 when the Saints came back with a bunch of new free-agents and a high draft pick. [ur.l=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa1QIpbr9G4]The Rebirth game was amazing and even just watching it on TV in my dorm room will be something I never forget.
Love you, Steve Gleason!
Love you, Steve Gleason!