whats up with the whole Russell shit and the mr krab memes?
there was a CSGO major this week so i've just been following that and not keeping up with nba shit
there was a CSGO major this week so i've just been following that and not keeping up with nba shit
I liked what I saw from him tho... He has great great feet for a kid over 7 feet...
but he looks like he could be anywhere from the Greek Freak to Yi
but he looks like he could be anywhere from the Greek Freak to Yi
By blackace Go To PostI liked what I saw from him tho… He has great great feet for a kid over 7 feet…
but he looks like he could be anywhere from the Greek Freak to Yi
He's super clumsy and can't catch anything. Not really seeing anything from him right now.
3-4 years of college would do wonders for him
I'm hoping he's doing this to take advantage of the new rules so he can see where his stock is and then withdraw, and hopefully attend school next year.
I'm hoping he's doing this to take advantage of the new rules so he can see where his stock is and then withdraw, and hopefully attend school next year.
By IWMTB19 Go To PostHe's super clumsy and can't catch anything. Not really seeing anything from him right now.he is awkward at times, but I like that he isn't afraid to handle the rock
By blackace Go To Posthe is awkward at times, but I like that he isn't afraid to handle the rock
He's also regressed since last year. Huge red flag.
By knux-future Go To PostHe is the Hinkiest Pick ever.
I mean, spending the 31st pick on him wouldn't be that horrible.
By IWMTB19 Go To PostI mean, spending the 31st pick on him wouldn't be that horrible.I could see us using the OKC pick on him.
Old heads saying the '96 Bulls would sweep the 2016 Warriors yet the '96 Bulls lost 3 games those playoffs, including two in the Finals to a Sonics team 🤔
By reilo Go To PostOld heads saying the '96 Bulls would sweep the 2016 Warriors yet the '96 Bulls lost 3 games those playoffs, including two in the Finals to a Sonics team 🤔
Which Old Head?
Depends on the rules you play by tbh. 96 rules and the Bulls win pretty comfortably. 2016 rules and the Warriors run them off the court.
By reilo Go To PostOld heads saying the '96 Bulls would sweep the 2016 Warriors yet the '96 Bulls lost 3 games those playoffs, including two in the Finals to a Sonics team 🤔eh, put me in that old head group.
the game back then was called way different, specifically the hand check.
the 96 bulls were defensive jagurnaut too
i dont know about a sweep though. lol
Warriors had one of the greatest defensive seasons of all time last year (better than the Bulls!) and they didn't have the advantages of hand-checking. You can also try and hand-check Curry as much as you want, but who the hell prevents him from dropping 5+ threes in any given game?
This idea that the Bulls just waltz through them is a bit silly. Against the Sonics, Gary Payton, who is nowhere near as good of a scorer as Curry, averaged 18/6.3/7 that series on efficient shooting. Even Shawn Kemp ravaged the Bulls that series and he was guarded by an all time great in Rodman and Pippen.
This idea that the Bulls just waltz through them is a bit silly. Against the Sonics, Gary Payton, who is nowhere near as good of a scorer as Curry, averaged 18/6.3/7 that series on efficient shooting. Even Shawn Kemp ravaged the Bulls that series and he was guarded by an all time great in Rodman and Pippen.
By Kabro Go To Posteh, put me in that old head group.Me too. Keep in mind the rules for being physical with guards in the paint hadn't been relaxed much yet in 1996 like they are now. Steph would pay a toll any time he's try to slip screens or shed on a big.
the game back then was called way different, specifically the hand check.
the 96 bulls were defensive jagurnaut too
i dont know about a sweep though. lol
Also note that Golden State's defense has slipped bigtime in the 2nd half of the season.
Bulls also never played an offense as three pointer dependent as the Warriors. What we've seen since the LeBron Heat seasons is that if you don't shoot threes, you can't keep up with these three point shooting offenses no matter how good your defense is. (see Pacers, Grizzlies).
Like, the Bulls can play perfect defense for 45 minutes, but three bad possessions in a row and the game's done. It's really stupid how unfair the Warriors are.
Like, the Bulls can play perfect defense for 45 minutes, but three bad possessions in a row and the game's done. It's really stupid how unfair the Warriors are.
I don't see how Pippen could guard Curry full time for a series or how a 32-year old combo of Harper and Kerr that are splitting PG duties would slow Curry down when they couldn't slow guys like Payton or Stockton or Penny down.
Penny averaged 25.5PPG against them. WTF makes you think Curry would get stopped???
Penny averaged 25.5PPG against them. WTF makes you think Curry would get stopped???
By ErikHoestra Go To PostWarriors in 6. They're the best team ever.
Nah, 01 Lakers stomp both of them.
Warriors win sans handchecking, lose with handchecking imo.
I know why people always mention the Bulls but I always thought the better question was how the Warriors would fare against the best Kobe/Shaq team.
I know why people always mention the Bulls but I always thought the better question was how the Warriors would fare against the best Kobe/Shaq team.
By HasphatsAnts Go To PostNah, 01 Lakers stomp both of them.Damn. Shaq vs Curry. Literally polar opposites.
The combined gravity would destroy the court.
They might lose with hand-checking but they don't get a gentleman's sweep. Ridiculous. Penny averaged near 26PPG against them with handchecking rules, what makes people think they stop Curry?
In case y'all forgot:
And he wasn't nearly as good of a three-point and free-throw shooter.
In case y'all forgot:
And he wasn't nearly as good of a three-point and free-throw shooter.
By Dark PhaZe Go To PostWarriors win sans handchecking, lose with handchecking imo.
I know why people always mention the Bulls but I always thought the better question was how the Warriors would fare against the best Kobe/Shaq team.
Hand checking is moot in the grand scheme of things. Like, Jordan got to the rim every time he wanted to, a couple more possessions due to lack of hand checking isn't gonna change anything. The illegal defense rules are way more important.
Curry is also hyper elite finishing at the rim (68.8% on 337 attempts) in an era of incredible rim protection.
By ErikHoestra Go To PostWarriors in 6. They're the best team ever.i'd pick showtime lakers, 01 lakers and 96 bulls over the warriors.
psych pls.
By reilo Go To PostWarriors had one of the greatest defensive seasons of all time last year (better than the Bulls!) and they didn't have the advantages of hand-checking. You can also try and hand-check Curry as much as you want, but who the hell prevents him from dropping 5+ threes in any given game?I'd wager the allowed physical defense back then would wear down them down eventually.
This idea that the Bulls just waltz through them is a bit silly. Against the Sonics, Gary Payton, who is nowhere near as good of a scorer as Curry, averaged 18/6.3/7 that series on efficient shooting. Even Shawn Kemp ravaged the Bulls that series and he was guarded by an all time great in Rodman and Pippen.
It didn't wear down Payton nor Stockton nor Penny and they all averaged 40-45mpg those playoffs. Why would it wear the Warriors down? If anything, today's athletes are better conditioned. None of these arguments hold up to any single amount of scrutiny. It's nostalgia overload.
By Kabro Go To PostI'd wager the allowed physical defense back then would wear down them down eventually.
But the Warriors are deeper than the Bulls and pretty much any team in that era.
EDIT: Show Time Lakers would not beat the Warriors, c'mon.
Curry doesn't have the athleticism and size that Jordan and LeBron would have to shrug off handchecking. Pippen could play the three exclusively with Curry and then when Curry gets a step he handchecks to recover.
That's why Curry really isn't possible to guard right now 1 on 1. If you guard the three exclusively then it's just impossible to recover when he decides to drive without a handcheck. If you try to play both the drive and three then you get rained on.
I am not saying the Warriors would get swept by any means though.
That's why Curry really isn't possible to guard right now 1 on 1. If you guard the three exclusively then it's just impossible to recover when he decides to drive without a handcheck. If you try to play both the drive and three then you get rained on.
I am not saying the Warriors would get swept by any means though.
I don't see how even someone like Pippen can survive a playoff series chasing Curry around with the amount of picks they set and the pace they play. He couldn't do it against inferior offensive players of that era playing the PG position. Curry's handles are also all-time elite.
I just want to see what the Spurs can bring to the table. I think they figured something out the last game they played GS, even though the score was close, and LMA has begun to find himself.
By HasphatsAnts Go To PostBut the Warriors are deeper than the Bulls and pretty much any team in that era.deeper doesn't mean you'll win.
EDIT: Show Time Lakers would not beat the Warriors, c'mon.
a deeper portland team in 01 didn't beat shaq and kobe.
a deeper lakers in 04 didn't detroit in the finals.
By reilo Go To PostIt didn't wear down Payton nor Stockton nor Penny and they all averaged 40-45mpg those playoffs. Why would it wear the Warriors down? If anything, today's athletes are better conditioned. None of these arguments hold up to any single amount of scrutiny. It's nostalgia overload.it works both ways too, better athletes doesn't mean they'll win more.
heck just look at lebron, he's the most physically gifted player this generation, but what is he? 2-5 in the finals?
i'd still argue that i'd pick the 90s style defense over these warriors.
the bulls perimeter defense was a sight to behold at times.
By Dark PhaZe Go To PostCurry doesn't have the athleticism and size that Jordan and LeBron would have to shrug off handchecking. Pippen could play the three exclusively with Curry and then when Curry gets a step he handchecks to recover.
That's why Curry really isn't possible to guard right now 1 on 1. If you guard the three exclusively then it's just impossible to recover when he decides to drive without a handcheck. If you try to play both the drive and three then you get rained on.
I am not saying the Warriors would get swept by any means though.
They can play Curry off-ball a little bit to get Pippen off him like the Spurs do with Parker.
By Kabro Go To Postdeeper doesn't mean you'll win.
a deeper portland team in 01 didn't beat shaq and kobe.
a deeper lakers in 04 didn't detroit in the finals.
Not saying they'd win, but the "They'd wear down" argument doesn't hold water wrt depth.
It was such a sight to behold that other PGs of the era had no trouble doing whatever they wanted in the playoffs against them? Come on people.
By HasphatsAnts Go To PostNot saying they'd win, but the "They'd wear down" argument doesn't hold water wrt depth.nonsense. the "it doesn't hold water" rebuttal over a speculative argument is silly at best.
Nobody has yet to answer why that Bulls team didn't stop inferior offensive point guards in the playoffs that year.
btw, this is the last time, im defending the bulls.
coming from the guy that still believes scottie pippen is still better just because he went farther in the playoffs without MJ than vice versa.
yea.
coming from the guy that still believes scottie pippen is still better just because he went farther in the playoffs without MJ than vice versa.
yea.
By Kabro Go To Postnonsense. the "it doesn't hold water" rebuttal over a speculative argument is silly at best.
When's the last time a team with better depth lost because they were worn down? The examples you listed did not lose because they were worn down, it's because they didn't have the best player or make the right adjustments, not because they were more tired than the other team.
By Fenderputty Go To PostReilo bringing up stats and shit while the rest of you go "nah … the handcheck and shit yo."It's dumb man. People gloss over and don't even bother to look into whether they actually slowed down other PGs of that era in the playoffs, and they clearly didn't. Unless the follow up argument is that those PGs were better offensive players than Curry, which would be farcical.
By reilo Go To PostNobody has yet to answer why that Bulls team didn't stop inferior offensive point guards in the playoffs that year.
Which year? I know Stockton had some games that were just lawd at times against the Bulls
jeff pls
By HasphatsAnts Go To PostWhen's the last time a team with better depth lost because they were worn down? The examples you listed did not lose because they were worn down, it's because they didn't have the best player or make the right adjustments, not because they were more tired than the other team.lol pls.
portland got worn down in the 4th quarter in game 7.
one of the biggest collapse i've ever witnessed.
they had a 20+ lead going into the 4th, call that a physical worn or mental worn.
as for detroit in the 04 finals, Larry brown's defensive scheme of double everyone but kobe worked to the point the lakers simply gave up by game 5.
'96 or '97
Penny dropped 25.5 on them in 4 games on 47FG% and he was vastly inferior three point and free throw shooter to Curry. Payton averaged 19/7/6 in 6 games. Their PG rotation was a 32-year old Harper and Steve Kerr.
Penny dropped 25.5 on them in 4 games on 47FG% and he was vastly inferior three point and free throw shooter to Curry. Payton averaged 19/7/6 in 6 games. Their PG rotation was a 32-year old Harper and Steve Kerr.
By Fenderputty Go To PostReilo bringing up stats and shit while the rest of you go "nah … the handcheck and shit yo."stats dont mean squat if rules defensely were called differently 20yrs ago.
it simply was a different era, different rules, it was far more physical.
all these points being argued is moot.