By 3SidedPolygons Go To PostNon clutch players don't win 5 rings and have the most game winners in history.Dont make me break out bballreference gamelogs again
That's like saying Billionaire hedge fund managers can't invest. It's silly on its very face.
By diehard Go To PostDont make me break out bballreference gamelogs again
Again, non clutch players don't win 5 chips. Change your definition to reflect reality. Not something that says a scrub who converted a higher fg% of 10 open shots is more clutch.
By romrei Go To PostKobe Will be around nba coach? Fuck The heat kobe was not better than paul Pierce for me but kadolol bitch pls.
Kobe has said a few times he never wants to coach
"non clutch players don't win 5 chips" is not a reality, its an opinion.
Cause Dennis Rodman was clutch right?
Cause Dennis Rodman was clutch right?
By diehard Go To Post"non clutch players don't win 5 chips" is not a reality, its an opinion.
Cause Dennis Rodman was clutch right?
You really comparing role players to the benchmarks of the offense? Cmon man. Tell me another 2 time finals MVP and 5 time champion that was a lynchpin of the offense that ISNT Clutch.
If you have a hedge fund investor that's made billions you don't go "let's look at how many correct stocks he's picked vs not picked". On balance the dude is a wild success. It's the same thing here. U cannot under any circumstance be a 5 time champion as a lynchpin of the offense and be considered not clutch. That's just silly.
By diehard Go To PostKobe won 5 rings because he had the best team in at least 5 seasons.
Lol. Tell me more about how magic and bird and Russell and west and Jordan weren't clutch. You're grasping at straws here.
It doesn't feel any warmer to me so global warming doesn't exist.
Fuck the statistics amirite?
Kobe usually won inspite of being not clutch. It's impressive actually.
Fuck the statistics amirite?
Kobe usually won inspite of being not clutch. It's impressive actually.
By Dark PhaZe Go To Postcould be a bad night for diehard
kobe with a youthful explosion on top of ending the jazz's playoff hopes would be ruff
The Jazz have no playoff hopes.
By 3SidedPolygons Go To PostLol. Tell me more about how magic and bird and Russell and west and Jordan weren't clutch. You're grasping at straws here.
Stop letting Diehard troll you. lol
Dude stanned Deron Williams and the uber clutch Fredette.
By diehard Go To PostIt doesn't feel any warmer to me so global warming doesn't exist.
Fuck the statistics amirite?
Kobe usually won inspite of being not clutch. It's impressive actually.
Pathetic.
kobe having elite bigmen who averaged significantly more offensive/defensive win shares and ws/48 than him on his team won him 5 rings
By Dark PhaZe Go To Postcould be a bad night for diehardi'd personally want to watch Kobe unhinge that jaw just one more time tonight...
kobe with a youthful explosion on top of ending the jazz's playoff hopes would be ruff
By diehard Go To Postwhen are people going to stop confusing asshole shots with being clutchWhen Curry and Dame stop making them.
I mean even someone like Harden, you can understand trusting him more with an asshole shot than some of his other team mates with an uncontested two. Same with Melo. Same with lots of dudes around the league.
By pilonv1 Go To PostHouston interested in Scott BrooksDurant's middle school coach not available?
By reilo Go To PostWhen Curry and Dame stop making them.they can be both though
At the end of the day teams can be fabulously stacked and a player can be an exceptional athlete, and these can coincide together, I don't even know what this argument is right now.
By Dipro Go To PostDurant's middle school coach not available?pretty sure the Wizards hired that guy.
we also have his trainer from Texas
By 33MillionDollarMen Go To PostAt the end of the day teams can be fabulously stacked and a player can be an exceptional athlete, and these can coincide together, I don't even know what this argument is right now.
"I hate Kobe so his accomplishments don't mean shit." Is basically redblaster and diehard in a nutshell.
By 3SidedPolygons Go To Post"I hate Kobe so his accomplishments don't mean shit." Is basically redblaster and diehard in a nutshell.I mean you watched the commercial and are still missing the point.
By Rob Go To Postfirst round in general is shit.Hornets lol
Really should just pick the top 8 teams and have them play. fuck conferences, fuck making teams like Rockets/Hornets/Grizzlies/Pacers happy by getting a participation award.
My power continues to grow
By 3SidedPolygons Go To Post"I hate Kobe so his accomplishments don't mean shit." Is basically redblaster and diehard in a nutshell.Uh Kobe is one of the best players ever and win 5 rings.
All i said was he wasn't clutch.
By diehard Go To PostUh Kobe is one of the best players ever and win 5 rings.
All i said was he wasn't clutch.
Oh stop. You, Reilo, and red are three of the pre-eminent Kobe haters here. Which hey, I get it. But fuck if you're gonna compare him to Rodman or Red's gonna pretend Pau was the better player without being called out.
In true 2015-16 Pelican fashion, Ajinca (shoulder) and Babbitt (illness) will miss the season finale in MIL. They will be down to a seven man roster for this game. I don't know who the #1 option on offense will be with those two out. Probably James Ennis or Tim Frazier, I guess?
By reilo Go To PostFuck Kobe. Full stop.
We know.
This account official?
RT @SmushParker FUCK OUTTA HERE KOBE
RT @SmushParker I've been waiting for this day for about 10 years since the first time he called me 'Bitch Parker'
RT @SmushParker FUCK OUTTA HERE KOBE
RT @SmushParker I've been waiting for this day for about 10 years since the first time he called me 'Bitch Parker'
By 3SidedPolygons Go To PostOh stop. You, Reilo, and red are three of the pre-eminent Kobe haters here. Which hey, I get it. But fuck if you're gonna compare him to Rodman or Red's gonna pretend Pau was the better player without being called out.During the championship runs, I agree that Pau was the better player.
Also, an article from May 2015: http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/5/11/8584749/lebron-james-michael-jordan-game-winning-shots
And let's not leave Kobe Bryant out of this conversation either. LeBron is now 8-of-19 on potential game-tying or go-ahead shots taken in the final 24 seconds of the fourth quarter or overtime during postseason games, per ESPN's Aloki Pattani. Bryant has hit less (7) despite taking more (28).
i hope not. dude has 765 followers lol
By 33MillionDollarMen Go To PostWho was the bigger asshole, MJ or Kobe, takin' all bets.if even one of those MJ stories are real, its him no doubt about it
By Red Blaster Go To Post3sp with another strawman
thank god for actual all-time greats like steph curry being popular now
You're right red. Everyone is wrong about him and you're so smart because you found a stat that makes him look bad. When are you releasing your book Sean Hannity?
By 33MillionDollarMen Go To PostWho was the bigger asshole, MJ or Kobe, takin' all bets.kobe snitched on shaq.
i dont think MJ was that callus.
kobe said he doesn't care about friendships in the lockeroom, but only about winning. (verbatim).
tough call though
By Kibner Go To PostDuring the championship runs, I agree that Pau was the better player.
Also, an article from May 2015: http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/5/11/8584749/lebron-james-michael-jordan-game-winning-shots
It's a good thing no basketball people think that, including pau himself. Literally nonsense.
Because passing late game shots to teammates who are well defended so often that you earn the knickname Ledefer makes you so clutch, right?
eh Lebron usually made great passes to open teammates. People were calling him Ledefer when idiots thought a Bosh open 3 was a bad shot. Or that winners had to shoot it , or something dumb.
By diehard Go To Posteh Lebron usually made great passes to open teammates. People were calling him Ledefer when idiots thought a Bosh open 3 was a bad shot. Or that winners had to shoot it , or something dumb.
Again, everyone is dumb except you guys. Who define things in different ways than the entire basketball playing and coaching community since you're super smart.
By 3SidedPolygons Go To PostAgain, everyone is dumb except you guys. Who define things in different ways than the entire basketball playing and coaching community since you're super smart.Who the hell are you talking about? You think people that called him "Ledefer" knew what they hell they were talking about? lol
'basketball people' are why guys like byron scott still have a job in 2016
not my problem that others choose not to abide by factual, objective reality
By 3SidedPolygons Go To PostYou're right red. Everyone is wrong about him and you're so smart because you found a stat that makes him look bad. When are you releasing your book Sean Hannity?
not my problem that others choose not to abide by factual, objective reality
I don't give too much credit to things beholden to nepotism and pocket books as the final judge on competency and caliber of player tbh.
By Kabro Go To Postfew players can rile us up as much as kobe can.Agreed, but I will expand it to general NBA fandom and not just restricted to these here boards.
#mambaday
I mean look at this fucker who never watches basketball
https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/268796661415956481
https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/268796661415956481
By Kibner Go To PostDuring the championship runs, I agree that Pau was the better player.
lol