One concern I have is there are still such a vast majority of games that seem to be so poorly optimised for PC and end up running like crap.
By reilo Go To PostI built a $1200 PC at the tail end of 2013 and there's no way it holds up today with a 570GTX.
800 raheems on mine whenever the gtx 260 came out. Got a 660 and some more ram for 150 raheems more and it handled everything until about 6 months ago.
By reilo Go To PostWhat is your definition of "handled everything"?It all depends on what you want.
Considering you're fine with consoles I'm going to assume the best possible graphics doesn't actually matter to you. You could play stuff on low/medium and get 60FPS or turn up some settings and play them at 30FPS, since again you're fine with consoles so it shouldn't be a problem here.
I know console gamers love them some Low Settings 1080p, struggle 30fps games but the thought of playing anything less than Ultra settings @ 4K/60FPS on PC is unfathomable, but your 570 GTX would be fine.
My $800 PC that I built in 2012 handled stuff fine until I decided I wanted better graphics and 2 free $60 games.
By Rob Go To PostI know console gamers love them some Low Settings 1080p, struggle 30fps games but the thought of playing anything less than Ultra settings @ 4K/60FPS on PC is unfathomable, but your 570 GTX would be fine.
My $800 PC that I built in 2012 handled stuff fine until I decided I wanted better graphics and 2 free $60 games.
Reilo, get served
By Rob Go To PostIt all depends on what you want.
Considering you're fine with consoles I'm going to assume the best possible graphics doesn't actually matter to you. You could play stuff on low/medium and get 60FPS or turn up some settings and play them at 30FPS, since again you're fine with consoles so it shouldn't be a problem here.
I know console gamers love them some Low Settings 1080p, struggle 30fps games but the thought of playing anything less than Ultra settings @ 4K/60FPS on PC is unfathomable, but your 570 GTX would be fine.
My $800 PC that I built in 2012 handled stuff fine until I decided I wanted better graphics and 2 free $60 games.
Are you saying a 570 can run monitory of games today at 1080p with a stable 30fps? I dunno that just doesn't sound remotely true. I don't think games like far cry, tomb radar or the division would enjoy a 570
And while certainly not 4k, if/when I did make the switch over everything better be running at ultra with solid fps or I'd just stick a console 😑😑😑
My graphics card isn't the best, but I can play BF4 on Ultra with 100 + fps, Division also runs like a dream even though it's unoptimised as shit.
Witcher 3 ran with all the bells and whistles on.
Sure, if you want 4K, you'll pay out the ass and upgrade every year, but if you stick to 1080p, you'll last 5 years.
Witcher 3 ran with all the bells and whistles on.
Sure, if you want 4K, you'll pay out the ass and upgrade every year, but if you stick to 1080p, you'll last 5 years.
By reilo Go To PostWhat is your definition of "handled everything"?
As in, PC versions of ps4 games ran at higher fps, with better textures and actual, real, honest-to-god anisotropic filtering at 16x.
1080p is already getting pretty long in the tooth tbh.
Moving up to 1440p was sublime. It's remarkable what the extra resolution does for the image quality.
Funny thing about all this is that if the console makers had decided to do iterative consoles last gen I'd probably not have gone full PC as soon as I did.
Moving up to 1440p was sublime. It's remarkable what the extra resolution does for the image quality.
Funny thing about all this is that if the console makers had decided to do iterative consoles last gen I'd probably not have gone full PC as soon as I did.
If 1080p at a stable frame rate becomes the norm I think all console owners should be grateful. I certainly don't want specs for higher resolutions because I'm not interested in buying a new TV now or anytime soon. I know that's selfish but I'm way more interested in dynamic AI or better physics than cutting edge visuals.
Bullshots on IGN and trailers running on high end pcs at e3 are going to continue to sell games so who gives a shit.
Bullshots on IGN and trailers running on high end pcs at e3 are going to continue to sell games so who gives a shit.
Higher resolutions for consoles right now are pointless I agree. Most play on their TVs which support 1080p or 4K and neither higher than 60fps.
Since 4K isn't a realisitc option for this GPU, the aim for the Neo should be hitting native 1080p at 60fps in nearly every game with plenty of extra IQ quality things like better distance LODs, better AF and better AA.
Since 4K isn't a realisitc option for this GPU, the aim for the Neo should be hitting native 1080p at 60fps in nearly every game with plenty of extra IQ quality things like better distance LODs, better AF and better AA.
60 fps would sell me on upgrading. It really is that big of a difference.
GTA V ver. 2.1 here I come. :(
GTA V ver. 2.1 here I come. :(
By Laboured Go To Post1080p is already getting pretty long in the tooth tbh.Would have been rather difficult for Sony with the Cell.
Moving up to 1440p was sublime. It's remarkable what the extra resolution does for the image quality.
Funny thing about all this is that if the console makers had decided to do iterative consoles last gen I'd probably not have gone full PC as soon as I did.
However, I think they're also not too happy with the point the PS4 was introduced.
In terms of sales it's no argument, but the status quo when they planned the console wasn't the best point with the existing hardware (CPU and so on).
By Pennywise Go To PostWould have been rather difficult for Sony with the Cell.
However, I think they're also not too happy with the point the PS4 was introduced.
In terms of sales it's no argument, but the status quo when they planned the console wasn't the best point with the existing hardware (CPU and so on).
Which is funny since they had 10 years to plan their new console and work out their priorities and design and source parts.
Fuck resolution. It's hampering development massively. Imagine were we could be with 640x480. Sparse Voxel Octree Global Illumination, fully destructible enviroment and quicker development cycles. Instead we'll be going to 4K resolution with 2d foliage and baked lighting. But yay no edges.
By Laboured Go To PostWhich is funny since they had 10 years to plan their new console and work out their priorities and design and source parts.In the end, you've gotta work with what the market offers.
Another custom chip was off the table and the variety of cost and power weren't too good at that moment.
By Dark PhaZe Go To PostPascal and Vizio P next year with Mass Effect 4
#whatatime
you with me smokey?
Been hearing nothing but good stuff about the vizio p series. Its definitely on my short list of 4k tv's. I'm just not sure I can buy anything other than oled tbh. Oled is life changing for real.
By Smokey Go To PostBeen hearing nothing but good stuff about the vizio p series. Its definitely on my short list of 4k tv's. I'm just not sure I can buy anything other than oled tbh. Oled is life changing for real.
put 1k on a 5 game parlay and hit and its yours
I'm on that oled tip as well. It's just such a massive improvement that there's little reason outside of price to not go for it over the other options. I mean, from phones, and even the Vita, oled matters.
By Smokey Go To PostBeen hearing nothing but good stuff about the vizio p series. Its definitely on my short list of 4k tv's. I'm just not sure I can buy anything other than oled tbh. Oled is life changing for real.
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-type/4k-ultra-hd-uhd/best?uxtv=9082
Doesn't really seem to be worth an extra 1500-2500 dollars just for the panel difference imo. And input lag may vary (if you care about gaming on it). Vizio P with 18 ms vs 50+ for many OLED 4k sets atm.
You can get 75 inch sets with great marks for the price of some OLED's. I don't believe the price is going to drop fast for OLED at all in the next few years either. It's been extremely painful for manufacturers with no signs of slowing down really.
So my question is what content takes advantage of HDR? Does it have to be specifically tailored?
(I'm aware we're getting off the subject)
(I'm aware we're getting off the subject)
By Dark PhaZe Go To PostYou can get 75 inch sets with great marks for the price of some OLED's. I don't believe the price is going to drop fast for OLED at all in the next few years either. It's been extremely painful for manufacturers with no signs of slowing down really.
LG patented the WOLED process which yields better results and cheaper manufacturing. Samsung dropped out of OLED tech because of this. Unless Samsung or Sony come up with a different process (BOLED was the old one Samsung used before dropping out) they'll have to license the tech to sell to the consumer. At one point I had heard Sony was considering doing this. Buying panel tech from LG and using their internals (upscalers etc.) But it doesn't seem like that's the case.
My next TV will be an OLED. The blacks are like my plasma and the viewing angles are amazing all with the color pops of an LED. If prices don't fall, I'll probably have to wait for a bonus two years down the road to get one, but I will own one. lol
I'm going to run my Panny plasma into the ground before I buy a new set. It still looks fantastic for what I use it for.
By Laboured Go To PostSo my question is what content takes advantage of HDR? Does it have to be specifically tailored?
(I'm aware we're getting off the subject)
UHD Blu-Rays will be the highest quality content. Netflix is starting to ramp up HDR support for their streaming service, I expect others will follow suit.
Minus an out of nowhere huge increase in visuals from devs, Pascal will run games at 4K at good frames for a decent range of time.