Traveling Across Europe

In Lisbon just let the hills guide you. Night time areas are Bairro Alto and Principe Real. Definitely take a Caipirinha at Bairro Alto. And certainly visit Sintra, it's a beautiful little town near Lisbon with lots of exotic vegetation. Just get lost in the forest.

You should probably see a little bit of the French Riviera. Agay, Antibes, Porquerolles, Saint Raphael, Grasse, Nice. You need to see the Alps too of course, and you might have your share of beaches planned already, but at least give it a try on google images. Lovely places. They're not "alternative" and i'm guessing from your map that you're going for that kind of vibe, so that suggestion might be off.

Also, I don't know how you can go so close to Vienna and not go.

That's quite a trip. Too bad you're missing out on the west.

What linius said. You should go to the UK and spend a few nights in Coventry and Leicester

I can't imagine spending two months in Europe and not seeing Rome or Paris.

By KingGondo Go To PostI can't imagine spending two months in Europe and not seeing Rome or Paris.

I've only been to Europe once and went to both lol. Was thinking the same thing.

There's a lot on there that I would rather miss out on, than going to Paris and Amsterdam. If you can I would highly recommend going to both.

By Fenderputty Go To PostI've only been to Europe once and went to both lol. Was thinking the same thing.

I mean, it depends on what you're traveling for, but assuming that history and food are on the list (how could they not be if you're doing a trip like this) then you can't miss either of those. I'd also strongly recommend going to Pompeii.

By KingGondo Go To PostI can't imagine spending two months in Europe and not seeing Rome or Paris.

The idea was to hit as many cities as possible and still have time to see family and it seems like it would add a lot of time and money to go out of my way to go there :(

Maybe once I break down everything it will make more sense to there instead

By Vlatko Go To PostThe idea was to hit as many cities as possible and still have time to see family and it seems like it would add a lot of time and money to go out of my way to go there :(

Maybe once I break down everything it will make more sense to there instead

What matters is that you always read up on where you are, I think.

I assumed you knew the obvious already and that was more of an alternative kind of trip. You have to see Paris and Rome, of course. That adds to your mileage though, might have to rethink a lot. Suggestions I made before are easy. But otherwise, there are a lot of places in France that are worth your time: Mont Saint Michel (and Saint Malo), Rocamadour (almost no tourist knows it), Carcassonne, Annecy, Strasbourg...






I could go on and on with dozens more.

Just speaking about what I know of course.

By Gabyskra Go To PostWhat matters is that you always read up on where you are, I think.

I assumed you knew the obvious already and that was more of an alternative kind of trip. You have to see Paris and Rome, of course…

You are right that this is more of an alternative trip, just the question is what path to take. I could hit all the standard top destinations and skip Eastern Europe but I was thinking of this as more of an adventure rather than "see everything there is to see".

It's a little silly since the options are limitless with my only criteria being go across the entire continent. I could go to Paris, Amsterdam, Berlin, Venice, Rome and boat across to the Balkans but that seems like I'll be rushing through places rather than enjoying where I'm at.

Those pictures are amazing btw

I don't know how you can travel into the Balkans but never make it to the coast.

By reilo Go To PostI don't know how you can travel into the Balkans but never make it to the coast.

Actually had a plan to go on a road trip throughout the Balkans last summer while in Ohrid but plans fell through because my American friend was only with us for two weeks so it made more sense to stay in Macedonia and show him around.

I definitely will do the road trip another time but I don't think it makes sense for this trip since I can always decide to drive up the coast when I'm visiting Macedonia.

In Milan make sure you take the time to visit lake como, about 35 or so mins from the city but one of the most beautiful places on earth.

I won't suggest a radically different route, because I suspect you know better than me about where you'd want to go, but I will suggest visiting Vienna since your route passes so closely by.

By Kidjr Go To PostIn Milan make sure you take the time to visit lake como, about 35 or so mins from the city but one of the most beautiful places on earth.

Yeah It's one of the area's I didn't get to visit when I was in norther Italy last year. Just not enough time. Though I hope to go back so it's on my list. I have family in Trieste so we spent a lot of time there. My family (father's side) was from Isola which is now Slovania and not Italy at all. They immigrated to the US after staying in Trieste for a portion of time after losing their homes. We went to Isola as well. Saw where my Nona and Nono were born. Northern Italy is gorgeous on that coast.

By KingGondo Go To PostI mean, it depends on what you're traveling for, but assuming that history and food are on the list (how could they not be if you're doing a trip like this) then you can't miss either of those. I'd also strongly recommend going to Pompeii.

I thought Paris was gorgeous and romantic and the food was amazing. Rome was just fucking wild though. 2000+ year old structures right in the middle of the city.

By Fenderputty Go To PostI thought Paris was gorgeous and romantic and the food was amazing. Rome was just fucking wild though. 2000+ year old structures right in the middle of the city.

I'm dying to go back to Rome. The food, the coffee, the Vatican, the museums, and of course the ruins. By the way, if you're looking for a good single-volume history of Ancient Rome you should read SPQR by Mary Beard. It's great.

Did you get a chance to go to Pompeii? Talk about mindblowing.

We did not do Pompeii. Another thing we missed on time constraints. The trip was a little over two weeks and we spent time in Paris, Venice, Trieste, Florence and Rome. While in Rome I did the major stuff. Colosseum, Vatican, St. Peters. The food was great too. I had this seafood risotto that was unreal. We did the Uffizi in Florence, the Vatican while in Rome and the Lourve in Paris. Great trip for art.

The most overrated thing I did while there was Venice honestly. Giant tourist trap. The shops were stupidly priced. Like 6 cruise ships docked and dumped their passengers off the day we were there. It was very pretty at night and cool to see, but not something I'm anxious to get back to at all.

By flabber Go To PostI won't suggest a radically different route, because I suspect you know better than me about where you'd want to go, but I will suggest visiting Vienna since your route passes so closely by.

This is what I was going to say. Just came back from a trip to Vienna (and others) and it's truly a magical city.

You just have to know where to go in Venice. I mean the obvious tourist places are lovely sights. But if you want dinner at a normal price you just have to wander off a bit and get to the places where the locals go to as well. Drinking coffee at San Marco for 14 euros is just not worth it. But that goes for basically any touristic place.

Torino is beautiful but a bit too French (for lack of a better term) and on the boring side, just pass by it.

If it was up to me I'd recommend you spend a few days in Southern Italy just to taste the heavenly food, and perhaps women/men.

Either way, whatever you end up choosing, you're gonna have a lovely and an unforgettable time, enjoy lad.

By Yurt Go To PostTorino is beautiful but a bit too French (for lack of a better term)

Thus started world war 3

By Gabyskra Go To PostThus started world war 3

Italians can't be bothered to show up for their club's next match. You expect them to march to war?

By Fenderputty Go To PostWe did not do Pompeii. Another thing we missed on time constraints. The trip was a little over two weeks and we spent time in Paris, Venice, Trieste, Florence and Rome. While in Rome I did the major stuff. Colosseum, Vatican, St. Peters. The food was great too. I had this seafood risotto that was unreal. We did the Uffizi in Florence, the Vatican while in Rome and the Lourve in Paris. Great trip for art.

The most overrated thing I did while there was Venice honestly. Giant tourist trap. The shops were stupidly priced. Like 6 cruise ships docked and dumped their passengers off the day we were there. It was very pretty at night and cool to see, but not something I'm anxious to get back to at all.

Yeah, I spent the whole week just in Rome. We had planned a small detour to Florence but decided it was too much effort. We spent the day in the park then at the Borghese Gallery, which was absolutely fantastic. I wasn't familiar with Bernini before and his sculptures are now etched in my memory.

I've heard similar things about Venice. It honestly doesn't much appeal to me.

If you ever go back to Rome shoot me a message. I can provide some good off the beaten path recs. And Pompeii, as I said, is a must. Italy appears to have a rather lackadaisical attitude with regards to its preservation, so the longer you wait the more it'll deteriorate.

germany aite

italy is <3 tho

Got tickets to Lisbon for April 8th. Got a couple hour layover in Oslo because I went cheap on the plane tickets but I don't think its a big deal. Still need to figure out when I want to come back from Ohrid but I think two months is good for what I have planned.

I booked my hostel in Lisbon but I'm not sure how far in advance I want to plan. I definitely want to leave myself some room to change some things around but I don't want to get stuck looking for a place to sleep lol

This seemed like a long time away when I posted this thread but now its only a month away and I'm so excited to go that I got an excel document going for budget and planning