Gullible Hillary bet big on the idea that Americans have basic human decency and cared more about that than vague stories about emails and American showed her. Now this man is president.
By reilo Go To PostYou know you can edit your own thread, right? Including the title :P
I am so embarrassed.
Met my first real life Trump supporter tonight.
She fucking loves the guy, including all the stuff about Muslims and Making America Great Again (tm). This isn't the same country she grew up in.
I went easy on her since she was in her 80s and apparently has cancer, but still... Scary how delusional and bigoted some people can be.
Thankfully I follow IWMTB on Twitter so I stay up on all the latest in right wing craziness.
She fucking loves the guy, including all the stuff about Muslims and Making America Great Again (tm). This isn't the same country she grew up in.
I went easy on her since she was in her 80s and apparently has cancer, but still... Scary how delusional and bigoted some people can be.
Thankfully I follow IWMTB on Twitter so I stay up on all the latest in right wing craziness.
He contended that Democratic leaders on the left see America as a flawed country in need of reform and believe government is needed to make decisions because individuals can’t be trusted to think for themselves. Those same people, he added, view the U.S. as “an arrogant global power” and believe that people who support traditional marriage are bigots, while favoring more money for government programs that often help people who refuse to work.
Well, I mean, at least Rubio has an accurate idea of what Democrats believe so that's something.
I think I dislike Rubio as much as Cruz because for some reason people think he's not insane while most people think Cruz is. Rubio sneaks by somehow.
By Fenderputty Go To PostI think I dislike Rubio as much as Cruz because for some reason people think he's not insane while most people think Cruz is. Rubio sneaks by somehow.
Yeah, Rubio might be the most anti LGBT candidate in the entire race other than Santorum and Fuckabee and he is the purest neocon to ever run for office.
EDIT weird double
Other than immigration he's just as bad or worse, but he talks calmly and doesn't have a punchable face so ...
By IWMTB19 Go To PostYeah, Rubio might be the most anti LGBT candidate in the entire race other than Santorum and Fuckabee and he is the purest neocon to ever run for office.
Other than immigration he's just as bad or worse, but he talks calmly and doesn't have a punchable face so ...
By Dark PhaZe Go To Postgood writeup–hopefully Hillary will be less hawkish as president than she's appeared previously
Shes already hawkish, but this election that will probably be seen as a plus by moderates and independents
Eighty-two percent said religious liberty protections were important for Christians, compared with 61 percent who said the same for Muslims. About seven in 10 said preserving Jews' religious freedom was important, while 67 percent said so of Mormons. People who identified with no religion were ranked about even with Muslims in needing support to live out their beliefs.
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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/de486b3d64154d0baae9f04fba0a4094/ap-norc-poll-religious-rights-us-christians-most-valued
Donald Trump Again Hits Ted Cruz Over His Cuban Heritage In Iowa
I expect Trump to escalate bigoted rhetoric toward Cruz as the caucuses get closer. Might be his best shot at winning Iowa.
I expect Trump to escalate bigoted rhetoric toward Cruz as the caucuses get closer. Might be his best shot at winning Iowa.
By BertramCooper Go To PostDonald Trump Again Hits Ted Cruz Over His Cuban Heritage In Iowa
I expect Trump to escalate bigoted rhetoric toward Cruz as the caucuses get closer. Might be his best shot at winning Iowa.
I'm honestly shocked there hasn't been an attack ad against Cruz where it shows Cruz talking about the things his father did in Cuba, some crimes by Cuban Communists, and then shows Cruz talking about how his father is a major influence in his life.
By IWMTB19 Go To PostI'm honestly shocked there hasn't been an attack ad against Cruz where it shows Cruz talking about the things his father did in Cuba, some crimes by Cuban Communists, and then shows Cruz talking about how his father is a major influence in his life.Hey, Trump's just now dipping his toes into the TV ad game, so perhaps there will be.
By Dark PhaZe Go To Postis it bad that I might consider voting Mitt over Hillary
srs
I guess that depends, really.
Roger Stone, who founded anti-Hillary group “CUNT,” on using “rape culture” against her https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/30/as-trump-attacks-conservatives-hope-to-turn-women-against-clinton/ …
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/682227649381400576
By Fenderputty Go To Posthttps://twitter.com/ryanbeckwith/status/682210180088508416But hey, the Republican Party is in "great shape."
I generally like Yglesias, but he goes overboard with the hyperbole on this stuff. The Republican Party is not in "great shape." Neither is the Democratic Party, of course. Both parties are pretty fucked right now in their own unique ways. The GOP can't win presidential elections, and Democrats can't win statehouses.
Holy shit, there's an anti-Hillary group called CUNT?
Sensational. They'd fit right in with Footy-GAF
Sensational. They'd fit right in with Footy-GAF
By BertramCooper Go To PostI generally like Yglesias, but he goes overboard with the hyperbole on this stuff. The Republican Party is not in "great shape." Neither is the Democratic Party, of course. Both parties are pretty fucked right now in their own unique ways. The GOP can't win presidential elections, and Democrats can't win statehouses.
I remember that piece. Part of me thinks dems could use some hyperbole to kick start their asses
Edit: wait that's a new piece. I feel like a similar piece was written not long ago
Jeb in desperation mode, cancelling TV ads, moving Miami staffers to early states, digging up everything Rubio did to try to get some shit to stick:
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2015/12/30/jeb-bush-cancels-iowa-tv-buy-shifts-money-to-ground-game/78081210/
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/bush-campaign-deploying-nearly-all-miami-staff-to-early-states-217235?cmpid=sf&utm_content=buffer1bdd0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/how-marco-rubio-helped-his-ex-con-relative-get-a-real-estate-license/2015/12/30/a1d96816-ae7f-11e5-9ab0-884d1cc4b33e_story.html
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2015/12/30/jeb-bush-cancels-iowa-tv-buy-shifts-money-to-ground-game/78081210/
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/bush-campaign-deploying-nearly-all-miami-staff-to-early-states-217235?cmpid=sf&utm_content=buffer1bdd0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/how-marco-rubio-helped-his-ex-con-relative-get-a-real-estate-license/2015/12/30/a1d96816-ae7f-11e5-9ab0-884d1cc4b33e_story.html
By Fenderputty Go To Posthttps://twitter.com/ryanbeckwith/status/682210180088508416Might be a 2008 level beating.
By reilo Go To PostMight be a 2008 level beating.
There's been articles about how their efforts might be better spent riling up the remaining ignorant white voter base instead of targeting minorities. Curious if their recent rhetoric is doing that or having the opposite effect. I feel like trump would depress voter turn out and helps dems down ticket.
“I got a chuckle out of all the moralists in Congress and in the media who expressed public outrage at the president’s immoral behavior,” wrote Trump in The America We Deserve . “I happen to know that one U.S. senator leading the pack of attackers spent more than a few nights with his twenty-something girlfriend at a hotel I own. There’s also a conservative columnist, married, who was particularly rough on Clinton in this regard. He also brought his girlfriend to my resorts for the weekend. Their hypocrisy is amazing.”
Trump also wrote that Clinton should have refused to talk about his personal life.
“When confronted with the Lewinsky matter, Clinton should have stoutly refused to discuss his private life,” wrote Trump. “He should also have declined to answer, rather than perjure himself. If the Clinton affair proves anything it is that the American people don’t care about the private lives and personal of our political leaders so long as they are doing the job.”
For example, Trump disapproves of President Clinton’s behavior in the White House over the past four years, though he suggested that he was bothered less by what Clinton did, than by whom he did it with.
“It was his choice,” Trump said. “It was Monica! I mean, terrible choice.” Trump, who showed off fashion magazines displaying cover-art of the latest in a line of models he has dated, suggested that if Clinton had confessed an improper relationship ( Trump offered a more earthy phrase to get the idea across) with a supermodel, as a opposed to a White House intern, “he would have been everybody’s hero.”
“I’m not making any justification for cheating on your wife,” added Trump, whose own extracurricular marital activities have been a tabloid staple.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/trump-defended-clinton-during-lewinsky-scandal-against-moral#.ovP9D23QB
This saga is amazing. Hillary will devour Trump's soul and send him to the shadow realm if it comes down to those two.
By IWMTB19 Go To Postsome crimes by Cuban CommunistsBesides cold war propaganda, what do you know about Cuba really? Anything worse than what the CIA did in Chile?
"Centrist" "Unbiased" political scientists are embarrassing fuckheads with zero courage. Basically, this New York Times writer discovered that almost all Trump supporters are Dixiecrats (which everyone could have told you, but it's still good to confirm, sure), a group that only joined the GOP because they hate people of color, but he refuses to commit to the possibility that Trump's supporters are racist. So much courage!
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/31/upshot/donald-trumps-strongest-supporters-a-certain-kind-of-democrat.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/31/upshot/donald-trumps-strongest-supporters-a-certain-kind-of-democrat.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1
Donald Trump holds a dominant position in national polls in the Republican race in no small part because he is extremely strong among people on the periphery of the G.O.P. coalition.
He is strongest among Republicans who are less affluent, less educated and less likely to turn out to vote. His very best voters are self-identified Republicans who nonetheless are registered as Democrats. It’s a coalition that’s concentrated in the South, Appalachia and the industrial North, according to data provided to The Upshot by Civis Analytics, a Democratic data firm.
But it [Trump's pattern of support] is still a familiar pattern. It is similar to a map of the tendency toward racism by region, according to measures like the prevalence of Google searches for racial slurs and racist jokes, or scores on implicit association tests.
That Mr. Trump’s support is strong in similar areas does not prove that most or even many of his supporters are motivated by racial animus. But it is consistent with the possibility that at least some are. The same areas where racial animus is highest in the Google data also tend to have older and less educated people, and Mr. Trump tends to fare better among those groups — though the effect of Google data remains just as strong after controlling for these other factors.
Psychology Today's "racism doesn't exist"/"No means Yes sometimes" blogger looks like this:
I honestly don't know if you can be more stereotypical MRA looking than this, lmao.
I honestly don't know if you can be more stereotypical MRA looking than this, lmao.
By IWMTB19 Go To Post"Centrist" "Unbiased" political scientists are embarrassing fuckheads with zero courage. Basically, this New York Times writer discovered that almost all Trump supporters are Dixiecrats (which everyone could have told you, but it's still good to confirm, sure), a group that only joined the GOP because they hate people of color, but he refuses to commit to the possibility that Trump's supporters are racist. So much courage!
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/31/upshot/donald-trumps-strongest-supporters-a-certain-kind-of-democrat.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1
I am not surprised at all upstate NY is amongst his biggest supporters....... I met so many God damn racist up there.
Heh look at long island up there as well...
U.S. foreign policy skills creating some good shit again:
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/dec/30/oil-iran-saudi-arabia-russia-venezuela-nigeria-libya
Now obviously we couldn't have seen the collapse of oil prices coming, but this is another reason why it's generally bad to destabilize a country because you don't know what situations could happen afterward.
Plunging oil prices are threatening disaster in Libya, where civil war has left the population depending on fast-dwindling oil revenues to survive.
Libya has Africa’s largest oil reserves and in normal times this provides 95% of the country’s export revenues, keeping the economy afloat. But civil war between rival governments at either end of the country has shattered the economy, leaving the population almost wholly dependent on revenue generated overseas.
The crash in oil prices has halved revenues, and shortages of foodstuffs and medicines – even petrol – are starting to be felt.
This cash squeeze has triggered a three-way battle for control of what remains of the country’s oil wealth. Much of Libya’s largest group of oil fields, the Sirte Basin, is now held by Islamic State, which has interposed itself between forces of the rival governments. Most of what remains is in eastern Libya, held by the elected parliament based in Tobruk.
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/dec/30/oil-iran-saudi-arabia-russia-venezuela-nigeria-libya
Now obviously we couldn't have seen the collapse of oil prices coming, but this is another reason why it's generally bad to destabilize a country because you don't know what situations could happen afterward.
The amount that the hard left hates NAFTA when all economic research has pretty much said "it didn't affect the U.S. at all in either welfare or in distribution, once worker aid from the U.S. is factored in, but helped Mexico a decent bit" is definitely something.
Also, dear God, Noam Chomsky is an imbecile:
Note that Paul Krugman has never said that free trade doesn't work and that Chomsky is both quite stupid and deceptive.
Also, dear God, Noam Chomsky is an imbecile:
The strongest NAFTA advocates point that out in the small print. My colleague at MIT, Paul Krugman, is a specialist in international trade and, interestingly, one of the economists who’s done some of the theoretical work showing why free trade doesn’t work. He was nevertheless an enthusiastic advocate of NAFTA-which is, I should stress, not a free trade agreement.
Note that Paul Krugman has never said that free trade doesn't work and that Chomsky is both quite stupid and deceptive.
Fiorina and Carson come out in favor of Muslim Sharia Law:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fiorina-carson-saudi-arabia-executions_56894931e4b0b958f65beac9
Note that the executions were literally justified by Saudi Arabia only via reference to Sharia Law.
ISIS fucked up so bad by killing those American journalists. If they had stuck to the Middle East, we would have allied ourselves with them super quick.
“I take the Iranian condemnation with a huge grain of salt,” Fiorina told CNN’s "State of the Union" on Sunday. “This is a regime that tortures citizens routinely, that thinks nothing of executions, that still holds four Americans in jail.”
“Saudi Arabia is our ally, despite the fact that they don’t always behave in a way that we condone,” Fiorina continued, in her only reference to Riyadh’s mass executions. “Iran is a real and present threat.”
“The Saudis have been one of our strongest allies in the Middle East, and I think it’s unfortunate that we put them in the position we have by showing the support to Iran that we have with this foolish deal,” Carson told ABC’s “This Week."
“There’s no reason for the Saudis to believe that we’re really on their side when we do things like that.”
When pushed to specifically address Riyadh’s mass executions, Carson added a disclaimer but stuck to his previous notion that American support of the nuclear deal is partly to blame: “Of course we don’t condone that kind of thing. But I’m just saying we need to stop doing silly things that promote these kinds of activities.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fiorina-carson-saudi-arabia-executions_56894931e4b0b958f65beac9
Note that the executions were literally justified by Saudi Arabia only via reference to Sharia Law.
ISIS fucked up so bad by killing those American journalists. If they had stuck to the Middle East, we would have allied ourselves with them super quick.
Trump's first ad airing tomorrow:
Uuuuugggggghhhhhh:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trumps-provocative-first-tv-ad-raises-the-temperature-of-gop-race/2016/01/03/873cceb8-b243-11e5-a76a-0b5145e8679a_story.html?postshare=8331451876755149&tid=ss_tw
NEW YORK — Donald Trump’s ad begins with a shot of President Obama and Hillary Clinton. Then comes a U.S. battleship launching a cruise-missile strike. From there it moves swiftly through an explosive montage: The suspects in the recent California terrorist attack. Shadowy figures racing across the U.S.-Mexico border. Islamic State militants.
The narrator, a deep-voiced man, speaks ominously: “That’s why he’s calling for a temporary shutdown of Muslims entering the United States, until we can figure out what’s going on. He’ll quickly cut the head off ISIS and take their oil. And he’ll stop illegal immigration by building a wall on our southern border that Mexico will pay for.”
The spot closes with the image of Trump thundering at one of his rallies, “We will make America great again!”
Uuuuugggggghhhhhh:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trumps-provocative-first-tv-ad-raises-the-temperature-of-gop-race/2016/01/03/873cceb8-b243-11e5-a76a-0b5145e8679a_story.html?postshare=8331451876755149&tid=ss_tw
The Chickenhawks/Neocons/Neohawks had delusions of nobility in their minds. Bush went in stupidly thinking we would be greeted as liberators, Trump is going in to kill as many Muslims as possible and steal their oil.
Wish I could laugh at Trump.
It's scary that there are tens of millions of people out there who respond to that kind of fearmongering nonsense.
It's scary that there are tens of millions of people out there who respond to that kind of fearmongering nonsense.
By KingGondo Go To PostWish I could laugh at Trump.
It's scary that there are tens of millions of people out there who respond to that kind of fearmongering nonsense.
Yes it is. I think that's the thing that makes me the saddest. Just really shows you we haven't progressed at all. I really wish Bernie would win but let's be honest he doesn't have a chance of winning. Course that didn't stop me from donating damn it.
IWMTB calling Noam Chomsky an idiot, and thinking that "all research points to NAFTA blabla", okay dude. If there's a topic with little consensus, that's one. But okay, keep firing blanks and shouting insults at famous names, that makes you feel better. The biggest offense Chomsky ever committed in the eyes of people like you is being a skeptical voice on foreign policy, which you can't forgive since you're ready to vote for Clinton who supported the Iraq war among other offenses.
Also, Krugman has been spending the last few years calling out free-market fundamentalists. There is a world between Krugman in 1993 and today.
Also, Krugman has been spending the last few years calling out free-market fundamentalists. There is a world between Krugman in 1993 and today.
The quote is from the 90s, and yes, Chomsky was fucking stupid in that interview for either lying about Krugman's research or for having never read it and then coming to a conclusion that fit what he wanted. None of Krugman's theoretical research says free trade doesn't work and just points out nuances with regards to trade theory. I'm willing to call anyone who lies about someone's research to win an argument stupid, at least in that regard, yes.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm:
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2016/1/racial-attitudes-still-divide-the-two-major-parties.html
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm:
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2016/1/racial-attitudes-still-divide-the-two-major-parties.html
The "black people are lazy" point in the graph doesn't really work well with the bootstraps points that came earlier. Some confused fucking people.
By Fenderputty Go To PostThe "black people are lazy" point in the graph doesn't really work well with the bootstraps points that came earlier. Some confused fucking people.
"Black people are lazy" is more openly racist whereas the bootstraps question can be viewed as more "legitimate."
Oh god, Trump is now going Birther on Cruz, this is going to get hideous:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-cruzs-canadian-birth-could-be-very-precarious-for-gop/2016/01/05/5ce69764-b3f8-11e5-9388-466021d971de_story.html
LOWELL, Mass. — Donald Trump said in an interview that rival Ted Cruz’s Canadian birthplace was a “very precarious” issue that could make the senator from Texas vulnerable if he became the Republican presidential nominee.
“Republicans are going to have to ask themselves the question: ‘Do we want a candidate who could be tied up in court for two years?’ That’d be a big problem,” Trump said when asked about the topic. “It’d be a very precarious one for Republicans because he’d be running and the courts may take a long time to make a decision. You don’t want to be running and have that kind of thing over your head.”
Trump added: “I’d hate to see something like that get in his way. But a lot of people are talking about it and I know that even some states are looking at it very strongly, the fact that he was born in Canada and he has had a double passport.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-cruzs-canadian-birth-could-be-very-precarious-for-gop/2016/01/05/5ce69764-b3f8-11e5-9388-466021d971de_story.html
By KingGondo Go To PostWish I could laugh at Trump.
It's scary that there are tens of millions of people out there who respond to that kind of fearmongering nonsense.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/05/this-crowd-shot-from-a-donald-trump-rally-is-absolutely-eye-popping/
This article for the first time made me take Trump seriously and i feel scared.... like legit scared this guy will be elected and try to reinstate slavery.
Then again looking at the picture they manipulated it to make it seem like it was a bigger crowd.